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00:00Let's go to BPA, who's on the line with Willard and Dibs.
00:03What up, BPA?
00:04What are you doing?
00:06Just driving home from work.
00:10Yeah, the Nets were, that was really the only team that had cap space.
00:14And that probably takes that off the board for Kaminga.
00:18None of those other teams have cap space to give it back.
00:21So he's going to have to do a sign of trade if he wants to, you know,
00:25make a contract, and it's obviously in his best interest to start sooner
00:30rather than later, because the longer he waits,
00:33the more of the dominoes fall and his options are gone.
00:36So I expect something to happen pretty quick.
00:40Miami or Chicago, I agree, are probably the two most likely.
00:44And, yeah, I think it will make, you know, like, I don't know,
00:48how would you feel about Wiggins back for Kaminga?
00:52Personally, I'd take that.
00:55I don't hate it.
00:56I don't hate it because they would play Wiggins,
00:59and Wiggins would, like, he would fit right in without any issue
01:03next to Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry and whatnot.
01:05He already has.
01:07I know, obviously, not with Butler, but you get what I'm saying.
01:09BPA, thanks.
01:10I mean, go ahead.
01:11No, I'm just going to say, BPA, maybe he could stick and stay
01:14because there's more breaking news.
01:16It's flying in.
01:17Yeah, there is a lot.
01:19There's a few more that have come in.
01:20First and foremost, the Rockets have gone and done it again.
01:24They have brought in yet another player.
01:26This is free agent center Clint Capella,
01:29now on a three-year, $21.5 million deal with the Houston Rockets,
01:35and free agent guard Karis LeVert,
01:38a two-year, $29 million deal with the Detroit Pistons.
01:42The Pistons, that's an interesting one.
01:44That's an interesting one as they get a little bit deeper,
01:48a little bit more experience.
01:49It might also be, you know, let's get another wing in case Malik Beasley
01:54never plays again.
01:56Whoa.
01:56You know what I mean?
01:57Yep.
01:57Like, I don't know, but anyway, those are some interesting kind of B minus C plus level moves.
02:04Yeah, and many people around Dub Nation were interested in Capella.
02:09Sure.
02:09And I don't know if that's the perfect fit, like you were saying before about DeAndre Ayton.
02:15I don't know if Capella is necessarily the right fit,
02:18but the price point of $7 million a year,
02:21less money than what Kevon Looney is getting from New Orleans.
02:24Well, and to reiterate that, if you're just joining us, yes, what Dibbs just said,
02:28Kevon Looney, a two-year, $16 million deal to go to the New Orleans Pelicans.
02:33He'll put on a different uniform for the first time in his career.
02:36The other big deal of the last hour or so, Michael Porter Jr.
02:40and a future first going to Brooklyn in exchange for Cam Johnson.
02:45I do think, as always, right, and BPA just brought this up.
02:49All right, let's talk about for a minute the idea of Brooklyn
02:52has now been taken off of the table with regard to Kaminga
02:56because Porter Jr. makes a lot more money than does Cam Johnson.
03:01So Brooklyn just used up a bunch more of their cap space,
03:05which they did on a previous deal as well.
03:08I never really believed that Brooklyn was going to make a big offer to Jonathan Kaminga.
03:13BPA's not wrong.
03:14It takes it off the table.
03:15But here's what I would say.
03:18Golden State Warriors are not dumb.
03:19They would not be in this position right now if they were worried about a team
03:25coming in with a massive free agent offer for Kaminga.
03:28They would not have allowed this to get to 3 o'clock
03:31if they were worried that that was going to happen.
03:33My opinion.
03:34My read.
03:35If they thought Brooklyn was weighing in the weeds
03:37and at 3 o'clock today they were going to do five years and $170 million,
03:43then the Warriors would have done something a lot earlier.
03:46For sure.
03:46That would have put the Warriors in a bad spot.
03:48We've heard from everyone we know that the number one thing the Warriors don't want to do
03:53is have Kaminga walk and get nothing in return.
03:56They absolutely don't want to do that.
03:58So they've been reading the situation,
04:00and I think they're aware about things such as whether or not Jonathan's going to get a big offer somewhere.
04:07So if Brooklyn was the only team that could scare you on that level,
04:10well, they probably knew damn well that that wasn't going to happen.
04:13And now it's pretty much official.
04:15So does that deal give the Warriors a little bit of leverage in the conversation?
04:21Probably, yeah.
04:22Now maybe both sides already knew that was coming.
04:24Right.
04:25But it absolutely does.
04:27Like, again, Jonathan's leverage in this situation is, A, he's got time,
04:32and, B, what he's hoping for is that someone will make him an offer that the Warriors don't want to match.
04:37That's the leverage he has.
04:39It feels to me, the way the Warriors are playing this, like they're comfortable that's not going to happen.
04:43And I think the more you look at things like the Santee Aldama contract,
04:48it came in just under $18 million a year for three years.
04:51Somebody who is the same age and plays about as much.
04:55Now, Kaminga, I think, is a better player,
04:58and he's got perhaps a little bit more upside than Santee Aldama.
05:01But the fact that that contract came in three years at a little less than $18 million per
05:06tells me that the Warriors are not trembling, to your point.
05:10They're probably not thinking there's a team out there giving Kaminga five years and $150 or whatever.
05:16The price point for Jonathan Kaminga is low enough, most likely, in the marketplace
05:21that the Warriors can make a decision on a sign-and-trade or just a sign and keep and trade later.
05:28Sorry.
05:29Yes, I agree on that.
05:30Like, the read of the situation right now is so interesting because I do think you see a couple deals like this,
05:38and it leans you in the direction of, okay, advantage Warriors, Jonathan's not going to get what he wants.
05:45However, however, the advantage Jonathan has is he can still keep playing this out as long as possible,
05:53and as names keep coming off the board, that's going to make the Warriors very uncomfortable.
05:58So it's not like this is all to the advantage of the Warriors.
06:03The bottom line is somebody needs to blink, and pretty soon, or else you're just going to head down this road
06:10where the Warriors can't sign anyone, and Jonathan can't get an offer,
06:13and you're probably going to end up back in bed together in a way that neither side really seems to want.
06:18And the way that would be is if nobody else gives him an offer and you decide that you don't want to do anything long-term with Kaminga,
06:26you could have him play on his tender, the offer that you tendered him, which is one year and $7.9 million,
06:34and then he becomes an unrestricted free agent next year.
06:37But even if it goes that way, Mark, that would be a very uncomfortable reunion, so to speak,
06:44where Kaminga wanted big money, you wanted to kind of trade him, and you've shopped him repeatedly,
06:50nothing happened, and so it's a tail between both of your legs, and now he has to come back and play on a low offer?
06:57Nobody wants that.
06:58Nobody wants that.
06:59And this is probably part of what Ramona Shelburne was telling us a week ago when she said this could get messy.
07:07By the way, I just say this, I think it already is.
07:10That's what I think.
07:12Yeah.
07:12I think it's already messy.
07:14Yeah.
07:14Because we're here.
07:16We're here.
07:16It's 4.40 on Monday, and there is A, no resolution, B, no resolution in sight, and C...
07:24Potentially.
07:25Potentially.
07:26Yeah.
07:26Yeah, it could break in two minutes.
07:28It could.
07:28But names are flying off the board, and some of them were interesting names.
07:33I don't know what level the Warriors actually wanted those people, but names that they've been linked to.
07:39And then again, the reports, and I get this, this is just leverage play, and this is posturing,
07:45but the reports are suggesting right now that, you know, this is going to take a while.
07:50This is going to take a while.
07:51And I don't know if the Warriors have a while, because Oklahoma City's really good.
07:55The Rockets have signed two more players today.
07:59Yep.
07:59Clint Capella, Dorian Finney-Smith.
08:01The Rockets are getting better.
08:03The Nuggets just acquired Cam Johnson.
08:06Come on now.
08:07Come on now.
08:08The West is getting real good.
08:10It was already real good.
08:11Yeah.
08:12It was getting real good.
08:13Real fast.
08:14And the T-Wolves brought back Nas Reed, and that happened earlier.
08:17And Julius Randle.
08:19So the T-Wolves are still a really good team, and, you know, the Lakers are making some, you know,
08:25moves around the fringes, so to speak.
08:27But when you're the Warriors, you have probably three big needs, and, you know,
08:32some of the needs can't be fulfilled right now.
08:35So, let's go.

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