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00:0095.7 The Game, breaking news.
00:06Warrior fans, brace yourselves, this one's going to hurt a little bit.
00:09What do you mean?
00:11Free agent center Kevon Looney has agreed to a two-year, $16 million deal with the New Orleans Pelicans.
00:18No!
00:20Kevon Looney's time with the Golden State Warriors has come to an end.
00:24Man, I mean, congrats Kevon.
00:27Yep.
00:27$8 million a year, good for you.
00:30Man, what a great player.
00:31What a great guy.
00:32What a great guy.
00:33But if I can just put that to the side for a minute.
00:36No!
00:38That's what I mean.
00:39No, bro.
00:40Like, I think...
00:41Why?
00:44Sorry.
00:45I wasn't ready for it.
00:46I'm not trying to make light.
00:47I wasn't ready for Nancy on this one.
00:49But this one hurts.
00:51It hurts.
00:52Ten years.
00:54A ten-year warrior?
00:56Ten years.
00:56Time flies, man.
00:58It really does.
00:59Ten years, a forever warrior, a champion, and someone who never wore another jersey, and
01:05has already been through moments where it felt like he might go, and there was a lot
01:11of angst about him leaving and whatnot, but he never did.
01:14But today is the day that Kavon Looney departs the Warriors' two-year, $16 million deal with
01:21the New Orleans Pelicans.
01:24And so it's not terribly surprising.
01:27I think that we had braced ourselves.
01:29I know I had, like you had.
01:31We had braced ourselves for the idea that the current warrior-free agents, and I say that
01:36about the restricted ones as well, Kaminga, Looney, GP2, I was certainly mentally prepared
01:44for them to be gone.
01:45But I'll also say, from just the emotional side of warrior fandom, this one kind of hurts
01:51the most.
01:52It's Kavon Looney.
01:54That big toothy grin and the championship rings and everything that he's always brought.
01:58Steve Kerr talking about how he rides with Kavon and how he's the heartbeat of the locker room
02:05and everything.
02:06I understand that he wasn't quite producing in terms of numbers and fit the way that the
02:12Warriors needed him to, but it doesn't matter.
02:15But that's Kavon Looney.
02:17That's our guy.
02:18And now he's on another team.
02:21That's it.
02:21And you look at the deal, and he gets $8 million a year.
02:25And so, good for you, Kavon, because I don't think, I'm almost positive the Warriors weren't
02:31going to be able to offer him that much.
02:33And this one hurts, because the more you think about Kavon in the past, it has been, well,
02:39you know, he's going to be a free agent, and we'll see what offers are out there.
02:42And it had always seemed like there weren't great offers, and so Kavon came back, and I
02:48looked at it this year in kind of a similar way, where I didn't think that there'd be a team
02:52out there that would want to give him $8 million a year.
02:54Not that he's not worth it, because clearly he is, a team is willing to pay him $8 million
02:59a year.
03:00I'm just surprised that he got a contract this big.
03:03I'm really happy for him, because he has been a grinder.
03:07He came into the league injured, and he had, you know, a lot of early ailments in his career
03:12that kind of hampered his ability.
03:15If you go back and look at him as a UCLA Bruin, like, shooting the jumper and elevating, like,
03:21you wouldn't recognize the Kavon that we've seen.
03:23Yep.
03:23So, good on you, Kavon.
03:26Really happy for the young man, but this one hurts my heart, Mark.
03:29A couple other guys that also, just over the last handful of minutes, smaller deals that
03:36have gone down.
03:37Kevin Porter Jr. stays with the Bucs, two years, $11 million.
03:40Bruce Brown Jr. agrees to a one-year deal to stay with the Denver Nuggets, and again, the
03:47Denver Nuggets involved in the big trade that just went down about 10, 15 minutes ago.
03:53Michael Porter Jr. and a future first-round pick going to the Brooklyn Nets in exchange
03:59for Cam Johnson, and it kind of circles back to my point.
04:03Like, we are at a spot where you're watching Golden State let some money go.
04:11There's Kavon Looney goes.
04:12I do think GP2 is going to go, and I do think there is going to be a deal for Jonathan Kaminga,
04:18not a contractual deal.
04:20I think that Jonathan is going to be a part of some sort of a larger sign-in trade.
04:25The Warriors need to do something here.
04:28The Warriors, like, I...
04:30Like, what are you doing the past hour and 23?
04:32Well, no, I get...
04:33I don't mean, like, you're on the clock.
04:36I just mean that even though I argued, and Grandy and I did a couple of these shows,
04:42I remember a few months ago, where it's like, man, I think people forget how good the Warriors
04:46were after Jimmy Butler arrived.
04:50So, if you play that out over a whole season, I'm like, I don't think the Warriors are that
04:56far down the list in the West, but the West has changed.
05:00And I think the Nuggets just got better.
05:03I know the Houston Rockets got a lot better.
05:06And what's the one thing that everybody would say about Oklahoma City?
05:10Even though they're winning all those games, what would people say?
05:13Well, you've never done it.
05:14That's right.
05:14Yep.
05:15Talk to me when you've done it.
05:17Well, now they've done it.
05:19And so now you can't play the...
05:20But they're inexperienced.
05:22You can't do that anymore either.
05:24So, the West is building itself to be even stronger, more top-heavy,
05:30if you will.
05:31And the Warriors are going to have to find a way to at least be mildly aggressive here
05:38in keeping up with the Joneses.
05:40Yes, and you can only be so aggressive because you have two of the highest-paid players in
05:46the game, and then Draymond's making 28.
05:48So, I know you don't have three guys making 30 or more, which is something that you and
05:53I have talked about you can't really do.
05:54But if you take Steph and Jimmy and Draymond, they combined make about 140.
06:00So, that right there is about, you know, 40-something on the average.
06:04So, you in fact do have that top-heavy of a roster.
06:08So, yeah, Kavon is now officially gone.
06:10Looks like GP2 will be gone.
06:12And you have a couple of second-round draft picks, and I was listening to Evan and Goo
06:16today.
06:17And, you know, they're older guys relative to what the Warriors have done in the past.
06:21And can they come in and help you?
06:23Well, sure, they're allowed to.
06:25But now we're getting to the point where you're better, right?
06:27And I'm taking the words out of your mouth because I'm seeing you form them.
06:30Yeah, yeah.
06:31And Kavon gets reunited with Jordan Poole in New Orleans.
06:35And New Orleans keeps, like, they're an interesting sort of team right now.
06:39Not in terms of like, oh, I think they're going to compete.
06:42But what are they doing?
06:44What are they doing?
06:44You get Zion still there.
06:46You know, Evan brought up earlier on the crossover.
06:49He'd love to see that be the Kaminga destination for Trey Murphy.
06:53I love Trey Murphy.
06:55I don't know if the Warriors can get their hands on him.
06:57But New Orleans is kind of like acting like O'Hare on United Airlines.
07:04Like, they're just this midpoint where everything kind of flies out of there right now.
07:09They're not here to win.
07:11They're here to sort of facilitate your trade or wherever you're going to go next.
07:14That's a pretty hilarious analogy.
07:17I just threw that out there.
07:18You know, because if you're flying to New York and it's not a direct, you may go through O'Hare.
07:22You're going to go through Chicago.
07:23Exactly.
07:24It makes sense.
07:24You know, it's kind of more than halfway, but it's on the way.
07:27And so you stop at O'Hare and you get some more fuel and you pick up some passengers.
07:31Speaking of Chicago, and this is not me.
07:34I'm not reporting this.
07:35This is just me with tea leaves and the reading that I do.
07:38It feels to me like the two teams to watch on a Kaminga situation are the Bulls and the Heat.
07:43That's what it feels like right now.
07:45Okay.
07:46Bulls and the Heat.
07:46And the Bulls would definitely be a trade.
07:50And I think the Heat would, too.
07:52In other words, I don't think either of them are coming for, like, a huge free agent offer to be made to Jonathan.
08:00But we'll see.
08:00But it sounds like those are the two teams to watch the most closely in these conversations.
08:06Yep.
08:07I mean, and you figure if they're going to send him somewhere, you'd like to send him to the East if you could.
08:14Like, if everything was created equally.
08:15If you wanted to sign and trade, you don't want to send him to Sacramento or New Orleans, a team in the West.
08:20And I'm looking at Shams and Luke Cornett gets four years and $41 million with the Spurs.
08:26Oh, wow.
08:26So there's another big.
08:27I don't know if we needed to fire off the breaking news sounder.
08:30That was somebody that I kind of had my eye on for the Warriors.
08:33Yep.
08:34But, again, four years and $41 million.
08:36Four years.
08:37That's too rich for the Warriors' blood, I believe, until they get a resolution with Kaminga.
08:42Exactly.
08:43It's not too rich for the Warriors' blood if they would have this completed.
08:47And that's the problem.
08:48The problem with this, because we were, it's funny, an hour and a half ago, we're like, man, free agency goes slower than it used to.
08:55And then, boom, boom, boom.
08:58Shams has been firing these off every three minutes right now.
09:01So, anyway, Luke Cornett, four years, 41, with the San Antonio Spurs.
09:08And that is, I mean, for the Spurs, that's a great deal.
09:11Because Luke Cornett is a good, solid player.
09:13And you get him for $10 million a year, four years of team control.
09:18And you mentioned before about OKC, and I'm just fascinated by their contract structure.
09:24Because they've got a lot of really good players.
09:27But Shea's making 38.
09:29Hothenstein, he makes 28.
09:32And then it's 17 for Dort, 12 for Joe.
09:35Holmgren only 13.
09:36Wiggins makes 9.
09:37Caruso 18.
09:38Those are relative bargains for, like, your rotational players.
09:43You've got a lot of really good players not making a ton of money.
09:46And so, you're the Warriors with huge, huge, and really big contracts.
09:52I don't know how you go about trying to be a deep team.
09:55You're right.
09:56Not for right now.
09:57Not for right now, they don't.
09:59And then, on the other side, there's the Celtics.
10:02Are they fielding a team this year?
10:04Like, it has been nothing but exodus.
10:07Nothing but exodus.
10:08Exodus.
10:08I know that a couple of those guys were trades.
10:12So, I know there were players, Anthony Simons and whatnot, coming back.
10:16But, you know, Cornett leaves.
10:18Jason Tatum is not going to play.
10:21Al Horford has been linked in rumors to the Warriors.
10:24Porzingis gone.
10:25Holiday gone.
10:27Wow.
10:27We're not even going to recognize the Boston Celtics next year when we see them again.
10:32It's going to be Jalen Brown, Derek White, and a bunch of I don't know in green.
10:36Pretty much.
10:36Yeah.
10:37That's what that's going to look like.
10:38Can I ask you guys something?
10:39Fire away.
10:40So, Kavon Looney, obviously, will be remembered as one of the, I don't know,
10:44most memorable names in the Warriors dynasty era.
10:48Role players, yeah.
10:48In terms of, like, players that you or Warrior fans had an emotional connection to,
10:54is Looney only behind Steph, Klay, Dre, and Iguodala?
10:57Because I think he's fifth for me in terms of emotional connection to a player during this Steve Kerr era.
11:04I would put him ahead of Iguodala.
11:06And it's not just because I have a slight issue.
11:09No, but honestly, if you want to talk about emotional connection,
11:13Kavon Looney is a drafted Warrior.
11:16Iguodala's not.
11:17He spent ten years here, and he is just a lunch pail guy.
11:21Iguodala, finals MVP, hired gun, great guy, great warrior, four-time champ.
11:27But emotionally, I have a deeper connection with Kavon Looney.
11:30I kind of agree with you.
11:31Like, he's been a less important player, but the fact that he was homegrown, a drafted champion.
11:37Like, how many of those other guys throughout all of this can say that?
11:41How many drafted champions were there?
11:44Drafted champions.
11:45Steph Draymond, Klay, and Kavon.
11:48And, I mean, there are others who, you know, like James Wiseman, Jonathan Kaminga, Moses Rudy.
11:53No, no, no.
11:54Right, sure.
11:54I mean, knowing Grandy, he's playing right along with the bit.
11:57Yeah.
11:57But, yeah.
11:58Jonathan Kaminga.
11:59All right.
12:00All right.
12:01All right.
12:02All right.
12:03You know what I mean.
12:04I do.
12:04Like, who have been here through multiple portions of the run.
12:09Right.
12:10That's those four guys.
12:11Yeah, as far as I can remember, yeah.
12:13That's those four guys.
12:14Just quick, interesting wrinkle, a set aside, as you would like to say.
12:17We'll decide if it was interesting.
12:18Do you know that James Wiseman was one game away from getting a second ring?
12:24Oh, that's right.
12:24Yeah.
12:25That's right.
12:25He's on the Pacers.
12:26Yep.
12:27He played a game for the Pacers.
12:29And his leg blew up.
12:30Correct.
12:30By the way, when we talk about all those Achilles tears, no one brought him up.
12:34But go ahead and bring him up.
12:35Well, he was the OG this season of Achilles tears.
12:38What is he?
12:39Twenty-four?
12:40If that.
12:42How old is James?
12:43I was just looking earlier, and it's like, oh, he would have gotten a ring.
12:47He would have gotten ring number two had the Pacers been able to close that thing out.
12:51Yeah, he's 24.
12:52Twenty-four years old.
12:53Yep.
12:53Ugh.
12:54And I just saw something about, like, Chicago might be interested in Wiseman, and so hopefully
13:00he gets a chance to be an NBA player again.
13:03He'll have a career.
13:04He's still an athletic seven-footer.
13:06Sure.
13:07I don't think it's ever going to amount to, you know, stats and minutes and all of that,
13:12but, like, he can be on a roster.
13:14Absolutely.
13:15Yeah, you would figure.
13:16I mean...
13:16Unless this injury rehab didn't go well.
13:19I mean, I have no idea where he's at with the whole...
13:21Well, he's eight or nine months into it, because it happened in October.
13:24Right.
13:25So, and you know with the Achilles, it's probably nine to twelve months, maybe even more for
13:29a bigger guy.
13:30So, anyway, I just wanted to throw that in there as we were talking about champs, people
13:34with rings.
13:35Patrick McCall has three.
13:36Yes, he does.
13:37Just in case you need him.
13:38Yes, he does.
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