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'Republicans Now Are Suddenly Pretending They Can't Count': Patty Murray Mocks GOP's 'Magic Math'
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6/30/2025
During debate on the Senate floor, Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) spoke Republicans' Big Beautiful Bill, and tore into their budgetary process in drafting the legislation.
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President. I recognize a senator from Washington State. I thank the senator from Oregon and our
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other budget chairs, ranking members from previous years, because this is really important.
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Mr. President, there are some things you can't change with legislation, despite what my colleagues
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on the other side of the aisle seem to believe. For example, one plus one is two, and while a
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trillion might have a lot of zeros in it, it is, in fact, a much, much bigger number. Now, that might
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sound obvious, but apparently my colleagues across the aisle need a little reminder, because right now
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Republicans are pretending not to get it. It is almost beyond belief, and it is certainly beyond
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common sense. After years of complaining about the debt, in fact, at the same time they're talking
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about how we need to address the debt, Republicans now are suddenly pretending they don't know how to
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count. Republicans are suddenly pretending the parliamentarian doesn't exist if they don't talk
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to her. Republicans are suddenly pretending that precedent doesn't exist if they just fake amnesia,
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and that norms and consequences for breaking them will just disappear if they wish it away really hard.
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My preschool students had more common sense. Republicans should know if they replace math with magic,
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if they tear up the Senate process, if they blow off the Senate parliamentarian, that bill will come due.
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And not just the bill for four trillion dollars blown on tax cuts for billionaires and corporations,
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the bill will also come due for trashing this Senate process and precedent when Republicans are no longer
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in the majority. Mr. President, if Republicans are serious about plowing forward with rewriting or ignoring
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Senate procedure and the laws of mathematics, I just ask, spare me the empty excuses. Spare me the
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explanations that totally ignore the reality of what you are doing. I mean, do they really think it washes away
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everything to say, oh, it's fine to break the process in half because we say it's fine. Oh, it's fine. We have
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the authority to ignore math. Give me a break. To every Republican who really thinks that is a convincing
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argument, to anyone who thinks we can is just an acceptable rationale for going nuclear and pretending
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the most expensive bill in the history of our country can be paid for by some magic bean counting,
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here is my challenge to you. Go back home and try that game with your constituents. Tell them,
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it's okay. Yes, the debt's going to be four trillion dollars, higher 10 years from now. That's true.
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But it's fine. We voted on it. And we get to say a trillion is actually zero. Go ahead. See how that
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works for you. And you may as well tell them you are voting against gravity next because that's just
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as reasonable. And don't forget, when you tell your families back home that trillions of dollars in tax
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cuts for billionaires and companies are free because you waved a wand or you said some magic words,
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don't forget to tell them, those are just tax cuts for the billionaires, not for working families.
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Don't forget to tell the folks back home, yeah, I voted to say a trillion dollars is nothing,
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but we still need to kick people off of their health care. That's just too expensive. We still
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need to close those hospitals. We have to cut costs. And we still have to kick people off snap
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because the debt is out of control. And don't forget to mention that, no, we can't afford child
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care. We can't afford paid family leave. We can't afford to solve your problems. Magic math is apparently
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just for billionaires. You all are getting less. Please, Republicans, send that message to your
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constituents. Just see how it goes over. Because you can fool yourself, but you are not going to fool
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the American people. They don't get to balance their budget with magic math. They don't get to
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pretend a trillion dollars is nothing. And they don't get to pretend that this bill is free.
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Because at the end of the day, regardless of what policy baseline you all want to use in D.C.,
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those families back home, they are the ones who will be paying the actual cost. I yield back to the
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Senator from Oregon. I yield to a question. I would. In the time that you were budget chair,
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did you ever contemplate a situation in which you argued that renewing a tax break that was by law
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expiring would somehow have no impact on the deficit? To my friend from Oregon, I never would
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have contemplated and I never would have put it forward. And I happen to know that if I had have
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suggested that, that my Republican colleagues would have been all over me telling me that breaks the
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rules. Thank you.
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