Tom Tiffany Absolutely Explodes At Witness Who Said Biden Admin 'Did A Good Job In Some Ways'

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During a Wednesday House Judiciary Committee hearing, Rep. Tom Tiffany (R-WI) questioned witnesses about visa processing and immigration concerns.

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00:00from immigration system improved under the Biden administration?

00:06Under some ways, yes, in some ways, no. So it's a very large, complex system, as you know. It's

00:13second in complexity only to the income tax. So your colleague David Beer was here about six

00:18months ago, and he said, yes, the immigration system improved under the Biden administration.

00:24What's the change here of Cato's position? So the Cato Institute doesn't have positions

00:29of scholars of the Cato Institute do. But if you want to narrow in on the legal immigration

00:35system, then I agree with my colleague David that the legal immigration system did improve

00:40during the Biden administration. But there's large other sections of immigration that have to do with

00:46enforcement, other categories of things. So you're going around telling people around the country here

00:50today that, hey, I'm going to split hairs, and I'm going to tell people that this one subset of

00:57immigration, hey, things are just fine in the United States of America. It's all good. When

01:03they understand this as a broader part of the immigration system as a whole, which has been a

01:08complete failure. Well, sir, I don't work in talking points like that. I'm interested in facts, and the

01:14legal immigration system is not just fine. I've spent my career saying about how we need to expand

01:19legal immigration. So no, I don't go around saying it's just fine. I said that things have improved.

01:23And no, I don't go around talking. Sir, don't filibuster. I got questions to ask. I only have

01:28five minutes. So you're saying the vet, you say in here, vetting is effective and visa process is

01:33secure. You stand by that, right? Absolutely. How did 350,000 children come into America that we have

01:38no idea where they're at at the end of the Biden administration? How are there 600,000 criminal

01:43aliens in this country that committed oftentimes violent crimes, everything from attempted murder to

01:50carjacking? The vast majority of those did not go through the legal immigration system. That is

01:53entirely the point that we are trying to make here today, is that they did not go through the

01:58legal immigration. If they did, then most of those people would have been reading it out. It's because

02:01this administration, which you said, did a good job in some ways. The previous administration,

02:06they just let people come in without being able to get a visa. So does your data that you purport to

02:13put out there that proves this, does it include the death of Stephen Nash, whom a truck driver in

02:18Russ County, Wisconsin, up where I live, who left behind three daughters, does that include him in

02:25the data? He's dead as a result of an illegal alien running him off the road? The evidence that we

02:30have is based on... Does it include the two children in Abbotsford, Wisconsin, also in my district,

02:34It includes all people who are convicted of crime in this country, sir, and all people who are arrested,

02:38all people who are incarcerated for crimes in the United States during multiple years, including the

02:42great state of Texas, which has wonderful data, the best crime data out there, confirms my

02:48research. Every death and every murder is a tragedy, and those individual criminals should

02:52be punished to the fullest extent of the law. But that is not a reason to punish other people

02:56who are not criminals for that. Are they in the data? Of course. Are the 100,000 children that died

03:02of fentanyl, or young people, number one killer of young people in America, ages what, 21 to 45,

03:09fentanyl. Do you include the fentanyl death? You mean the people who voluntarily took fentanyl

03:13and overdosed under that tragic situation? No, those are not homicides, sir.

03:17Or do you mean the communist Chinese, who sent the precursors over here, and then the, um, uh, the

03:24cartels... Are we talking about the drug war now? We're talking about the drug war?

03:26And by the way, they sent it in being carried by people who are coming in with the immigration system...

03:33Why don't you count, why don't you count the automobiles imported that also cause car accidents?

03:36Which you are defending. Have you done, in your data, have you reviewed the impact on wages for

03:43those who are in the lowest economic strata with these millions of people coming into America,

03:48taking their jobs? I'll end there. Ms. Vaughn.

03:51Of course, I have vast economic literature on that that contradicts your statement.

03:55Share with us, has there been an impact on Americans' earnings as a result of illegal immigration?

04:05Ms. There's no question that illegal immigration causes unfair competition,

04:10costing people job opportunities, depressing their wages, and causing those millions of Americans

04:18who've dropped out of the labor market to have trouble getting back into it. No question.

04:22So it's clear they're making less money? Yes. And that should be included in any data set

04:27when we're considering what we should do with immigration. Is that correct? That's the inevitable

04:33result. That's supply and demand. When you increase the supply of labor, distort the labor markets,

04:37you're going to get lower wages. It's... Supply and demand. You're only talking about supply.

04:42Mr. Hankinson. Out of order. Out of order. No, no. I'll direct the questions to you, sir. Mr. Hankinson.

04:47I'm not asking a question. Was there a cost to the fentanyl deaths here in America?

04:55The open border made it a lot easier to bring in a lot of drugs. And a lot of drugs killed,

05:00as you said, about 66,000 people, just fentanyl alone in one year. How much do you value a life?

05:06You can't put a price on a human life. I yield back.

05:09The chair recognizes Mr. Nadler.

05:15Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman.

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