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00:00To do the honors, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the ring, renowned vocalist, J.X. Hines.
01:46We continue with action here inside the Charles Koch Arena.
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02:29This contest, set for 10 rounds or less in the Heavyweight Division.
02:33Judging the action ringside, we have Jeff Sinnott, along with Mike Contreras and Greg DeVilbiss.
02:39And now, the dub Wichita, Kansas, is the center of the boxing world.
02:48The main event is on now.
02:57Introducing first, the fighter standing in the blue corner.
03:00He enters wearing orange with black trim on the scale.
03:04He weighed in at a ready 218 and one-quarter pounds tonight.
03:09This Texas gunslinger raises his hand, accepts the challenge, and enters the GCC ring for the 30th time as a professional.
03:18With an impressive record of 24 victories against only five losses.
03:2215 of those victories coming by way of KO from Copper's Cove.
03:28And now, fighting out of San Antonio, Texas, Terrell, Terrell Herndon.
03:37His opposition across the ring in the red corner.
03:43Wearing black with gold trim, he weighed in at a ripped and ready 225 and one-half pounds.
03:51Started from the bottom now.
03:54He enters the ring on Olympic bronze medalist.
03:58A former WBC Heavyweight World Champion.
04:02And to this day, still the most feared power puncher in combat sports history.
04:11With a record of 43 victories against only four losses, one bout even.
04:16And an incredible 42 victories coming by way of KO.
04:20Repping, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, the bronze bomber, Deontay Wilder.
04:35With final instructions, referee Ray Corona.
04:39Let's go, fighters, two seconds.
04:44Maltese.
04:46Let's go, Maltese.
04:47Look it.
04:51This is still good right here.
04:52Nothing below here.
04:53This is still good here.
04:54Nothing below there.
04:56You want to touch gloves, do it now.
04:58God bless.
05:04All right.
05:05The main event is here.
05:07The wait is over.
05:09The bronze bomber is back.
05:11As he takes on Herndon.
05:17Herndon in the orange trunks.
05:20Wilder in the black and gold.
05:22Gabe.
05:24Does Wilder still have it?
05:26We're going to find out.
05:27And now Wilder opens up wide stance.
05:40Herndon said, you know, he studied the Joseph Parker fight.
05:45That's the fight Parker won in 2023.
05:48Was able to outpoint Deontay, get the decision.
05:51Feels like he can really emulate that style.
05:56Said movement certainly is going to be key.
06:08Wilder.
06:08Man, Wilder looks like he put some size on him.
06:16Big frame.
06:17Starting off with a nice, nice jab.
06:21Well, he added muscle, Gabe.
06:23I mean, he's typically, we've seen him walk into heavyweight fights 210, 215.
06:28And in this fight, he weighed in at 225.
06:33Yeah, you know, and I think Wilder's just a lot better putting on size.
06:38But Herndon obviously has to avoid the right hand.
06:46He's got to be very careful.
06:49He's seen it so many times in the past.
06:53All it takes is one little slip up.
06:58And I like how Wilder's cutting that ring off on him, too.
07:02Whoever Herndon's moving, Wilder cuts him off and follows him with that jab.
07:08Now, Herndon, he's been in the ring with the likes of, you know, Richard Torres, Jr., F.A.
07:19at Jogba.
07:20So, he's been in there with some talented guys.
07:24That's another right hand.
07:25He had the first real right hand thrown by Wilder.
07:29But Herndon was able to get out the way and avoid that one.
07:35The head movement certainly is going to be key.
07:42All the movement is going to be key for Herndon.
07:46Now, besides movement, Gabe, does Herndon have the power to hurt Wilder?
07:52Well, you know, at the heavyweight division, anyone can be hurt.
07:56You know, these are big guys, 200-plus pounds.
07:59So, any shot can get you.
08:03We saw Buster Douglas was in the corner of Herndon.
08:11Now, so far, I like how Deontay's starting off this round.
08:14Like I said, sticking to that jab, keeping his distance.
08:17Not really loading up on the right hand.
08:21Just letting it go a few times.
08:24Setting the tone for the fight.
08:27Final 10 here of the opening round.
08:29Herndon tried to throw a looping right hand.
08:32Just missed as round one comes to a close.
08:35What?
08:55I'm going to put the piggybie middle of what they say.
09:002,1, this is 15 twenty cents.
09:02All right round two ready to go Jeffrey Mays head trainer for Herndon
09:31Don House first fight he's the head trainer for Deontay Wilder
09:36Wilder comes in quickly to establish the jab there and I like that that's a flicking jab you
09:43know just putting it out there wants to do just enough to give Herndon something to think about
09:51Wilder
09:56utilizing that jab certainly has the reach advantage on Herndon
10:03Herndon's gonna have to find a way to get on the inside continue to move
10:09this certainly doesn't want to be a stationary object there as Wilder immediately
10:14threw the right hand and Herndon was able to avoid it but
10:19was close Wilder did get that left hook in though
10:23Wilder obviously has always been in great shape but
10:32this is the right hand backs Herndon up a bit
10:36Herndon trying to now get Wilder on his back foot
10:47Wilder continues to float the jab out there
10:54you know for Herndon to be successful he needs to slip and weave his way inside and throw off that
11:02throw off that movement for him to be straight up like this right now
11:06he's not going to be able to get shots in with Wilder
11:08no absolutely not and you know he
11:11after alluding to the Joseph Parker fight but you know I watched that fight
11:15Parker was not only moving he was throwing he was getting in and out
11:19yes and he was giving while there's something to think about a huge looping
11:23right hand as Herndon gets out of harm's way
11:29so right now Herndon's doing a good job at avoiding the right hand but he's got as
11:34you mentioned loop in and out and try to get some offense going and in that jab
11:42that long jab by Wilder is really in the way for Herndon he can't figure it out
11:47yet it's a nice double jab right there nice and simple
11:51while they're connecting with that jab good tool so far for a while there and
12:00we've seen him use the jab before in other fights something that he does have in his
12:05arsenal and that's nice so cool
12:10puts him down and Herndon looks at referee Ray Corona saying that that was a slip that
12:16was not a knockdown very frustrated it was a balanced shot yeah but he did get hit with
12:21the check hook but it didn't appear to affect Herndon in a negative way just
12:27negative on the scorecards now Wilder up being it up as we reach the bell and
12:39Herndon looking at his corner right now is to say you know was that a knockdown
12:44because he didn't believe so
12:46right here Gabe let's see
12:58no that's not it right there there's the left hook you know it's a cup and shot but it still was shot yep
13:08yep yeah he was knocked down by the punch
13:14yeah referee Ray Corona just came over to say he saw the hook saw him go down checked with the commission and they were counting so that's a knockdown
13:26not all knockdowns are the same Gabe yeah you know that I mean it it's it's uh
13:38it's good on the scorecards and Deontay coming out very aggressive to start round three
13:44you know I like the Deontay's uh approach you know he's he's establishing the jab he's standing firm on his shots
13:52he's looking good
13:54he looks determined
13:56it's been a peaceful mindset all week as that left hook connects there and now another stiff jab
14:02and you know one thing Deontay's doing is he's he's sitting on that jab
14:06every now and then he just pops it out there
14:08it's a range finder but then he'll change it and he'll sit on the shot and make it a power jab
14:24another solid jab there from wow there is he's looked good he's looked sharp
14:28yeah it's very difficult to defend a jab when it's coming from different speeds and and and the power's different
14:36but Herndon's still very much in this fight
14:40not backing down
14:44a huge looping right hand again
14:48certainly got out the way there
14:50but the thing is that Herndon has to throw off of those slips
14:54that's the only way he's going to be successful
14:56is if when he slips
14:58it makes Deontay miss
15:00he has to then fire
15:02there's a good double jab there from Herndon
15:04see right here
15:06the Deontay's
15:08too tall too long
15:10for Herndon to be able to land anything
15:12so you have to throw off the slips
15:14Herndon utilizing
15:16the head movement there
15:20Wow another
15:22jab there
15:24uppercut just missed there
15:26good head movement right there by Herndon
15:28certainly and he's gonna have to be doing that the entire
15:30fight
15:32but again Deontay with the solid
15:34jab
15:36continues to
15:38float it out there
15:40whoa
15:42Herndon just got
15:44underneath that right hand a while there
15:46and you know Herndon
15:48he has good eyes because he's slipping he's avoiding
15:50these big shots
15:52but you got to make
15:54your guy miss and you got to make him pay
15:56yeah right now Wilder
15:58does not respect the
16:00offense of Herndon
16:02you got to get that respect
16:04there's no offense coming from from Herndon right now
16:06it's all defense
16:08Wilder
16:10keeps that right hand locked and loaded
16:16Herndon
16:18comes in just enough
16:20but again the left hook
16:22from Wilder
16:24Wilder
16:28Wilder with
16:30the jab again
16:32that's a nice hook right there
16:34short little left hook from Wilder as
16:36he ties up with Herndon
16:38and that's the end of the round
16:40the end of the round
16:42the end of the round
16:48All right.
17:18How would you assess Wilder so far, Gabe?
17:28I mean, he's looking sharp.
17:30He's utilizing that left hook, the jab.
17:34Hasn't landed the big right hand yet, but still.
17:36Look, I like what he's doing because he's being patient.
17:40He's not forcing the issue.
17:42He's not diving in to land that big right hand and falling off balance.
17:46He's staying disciplined, so a nice, strong jab.
17:50And the thing is, you've got to understand that Hurden is not really cooperating.
17:54He's not throwing anything back, but then Wilder can hit him with a clean shot.
17:58Now Wilder's trying to close the distance here.
18:02It's very difficult to land big shots on a guy that is being defensive-minded, and that's what Hurden is doing.
18:09Right there again, Wilder tried to load up on that right hand, and Hurden was able to stick a move, get out of the way.
18:14But just, again, not letting the hands go that much.
18:23And Hurden landed a nice jab right there.
18:28That's a nice check hook right there by Wilder.
18:31Followed it up right with the jab.
18:33So Wilder, he's active.
18:35You've seen some Wilder fights where he won't throw a punch for several rounds.
18:40That's not the case here.
18:46And, you know, the length could also be an issue for Hurden.
18:50Not only the power, but Wilder is significantly bigger.
18:54Absolutely.
18:54That's what's giving Hurden a lot of trouble.
18:57He can't figure out how to get through.
18:59And Wilder is keeping that jab very busy.
19:07He certainly is.
19:08He's continuing to stick it in the face of Herndon.
19:11Now Herndon tries to close the distance, but the ball there ties him up.
19:17And resets.
19:24And a left hook.
19:27Partially connected for Herndon.
19:28And now Herndon coming forward.
19:30And that hook worked for Herndon because he slipped and fired.
19:34And that's more of what Herndon needs to do.
19:42Wilder right there.
19:46Continues to pat that jab out there.
19:52Utilizing that left hook.
19:54Wilder's going to have to start doubling that jab because he's just pawing that jab.
19:58And Herndon can counter off the top.
20:00He has to double that jab.
20:01Stop the counter from coming.
20:05And now Herndon presses forward.
20:07And ties up with Wilder.
20:15Another jab by Wilder.
20:2020 seconds here of round four.
20:22This is a 10-round heavyweight bout.
20:25Our main event.
20:25As Wilder unloads that left hook.
20:32And it was able to catch Herndon there.
20:37I think Herndon's a little bit off balance there.
20:40And Wilder now presses forward.
20:42And just had to take a time.
20:46The bell ends the round.
20:57For Herndon.
20:58If I'm in Herndon's corner.
21:00You know, I'm telling Herndon to slip shots and fire off the slips.
21:05There's a lot of times that he's slipping, slipping.
21:07But he's getting away.
21:08You've got to make your guy miss and make him pay.
21:11And that's the thing.
21:12It's only half the battle.
21:14He's slipping.
21:15Yeah.
21:16And so it's like, okay, I didn't get hit.
21:18Yeah, exactly.
21:19You almost kind of have to realize, I've got to win the fight, too.
21:23For sure.
21:23And I've got to score.
21:24Yep.
21:25And that's the part that Herndon is forgetting.
21:29And, you know, as we take a look right here, Gabe, this is what you're talking about.
21:35Yeah, right there you slipped.
21:37Where's the shot?
21:38So right there he tried it.
21:40But, you know, you're making Wilder miss.
21:43You've got to fire.
21:44And you've got to give Wilder something to think about.
21:50You've got to try to get him on.
21:51I'll find a way to get him on his back foot and make him think.
21:56Because if he's allowed to just stand there and try to time you up, eventually he will catch you.
22:04Left hook connects for Wilder.
22:10I mean, Wilder's doing a good job in this fight of showing that, you know,
22:13he's not just a one-trick pony.
22:15He's not just the right hand.
22:16Yeah.
22:17He's using the jab, check hook.
22:19And now that right hand again presses on Herndon.
22:22And then a shot on the break.
22:26Herndon kind of laughs it off.
22:32Wilder kind of paws at him at the left.
22:38And that right hand backs Herndon up.
22:39I think Wilder's getting closer and closer, dude.
22:43And the thing is, I like when Wilder's throwing that right hand on balance, and he's not diving in.
22:53There's that check left hook again.
22:56The left hook did some damage in the last round.
22:59Caught Herndon on the chin.
23:00Oh, nice.
23:04Nice sneaky short right uppercut by Wilder.
23:07Wilder has that in his toolbox.
23:09We've seen that throughout the years.
23:12And now a big right hand just missed Herndon there.
23:17And now Herndon trying to be the aggressor.
23:20I think a shot that'll work for Wilder is if he starts throwing the right hook to the body.
23:28Every time Wilder's throwing the right hand, he's throwing the right hand up top.
23:33So Herndon knows where that shot's coming.
23:36But if you could trick him and come throw the right hook to the body, give him something else to think about.
23:43And Herndon utilizing the jab.
23:44Right hand backs Herndon up a bit.
23:52Good double jab there from Wilder.
23:55Mixing in the shots.
24:04Not seeing as much movement from Herndon as he did earlier in the fight.
24:14Deontay just with that right hand back.
24:25See right here when Wilder's pressing Herndon to the rope.
24:30Throw that right hook to the body.
24:32That right hook to the body would then open up the left hook up top.
24:36Good right hand from Herndon there.
24:38Now rips into the body of Wilder.
24:40And Herndon just got to spawn to Wilder.
24:42And now Wilder has Herndon trapped in the corner, but tied him up.
24:51And that's the end of the round.
24:53But things getting a little bit testy there towards the end of that one.
24:58Right here's some of the highlights from the round as Wilder trying to sneak in the uppercut there.
25:20That was good body work from Herndon, even though he kind of spun out of that in a wild way.
25:24Halfway through our main event.
25:33Some blood coming from the nose of Herndon.
25:34Gabe, how are you seeing this so far on the scorecards?
25:38I think Wilder so far is winning every round.
25:42You know, with the jab alone, the right hand's really not landing flush yet.
25:47But he's getting there.
25:50It certainly seems like Wilder's getting closer and closer.
25:54The movement's becoming less and less with Herndon.
25:57And that's one thing he's got to be conscious of because you cannot stop moving against the Browns bomber.
26:06And, you know, I think in order for that straight right hand...
26:09See, that's what I like.
26:10He switched it up, a left hook to the body.
26:12Start throwing different punches where then you can set up that big straight right hand.
26:18That was a good left hook to the body there, which you've been calling for.
26:25As Wilder now, that right hand wasn't full power, but certainly caught Herndon as Herndon now kind of slipped down.
26:37It's more of a shove, according to Ray Corona, but he's telling them, you know, don't put your head down.
26:42Herndon's breaking down, though.
26:44He got up really slow.
26:45Yeah, the legs are certainly starting to go.
26:49And Wilder locked and loaded, trying to utilize that right hand.
26:57And Herndon, again, continues to duck underneath to tie up Wilder.
27:04That right hand got through the defense.
27:08Herndon's got to be careful.
27:11There's the right hand, and now Wilder's...
27:15Got Herndon in trouble.
27:24There's a stiff jab there.
27:27And Herndon's got to find some answers quickly.
27:31Wilder got to get it back to that jab.
27:33Get back to the jab.
27:35Get back to the jab.
27:36And let that set up the big right hand.
27:40Nice.
27:41There's that right hand.
27:43You know, it was partially blocked by Herndon.
27:46And now Herndon was tied up with Wilder a bit.
27:53Ray Corona letting him fight out of it.
27:56And there's that looping right hand.
27:58Herndon just ducked out of the way.
28:01And now Herndon put his glove on the mat.
28:05So that counts as a knockdown.
28:07And Herndon back to his feet at the eight count.
28:16Wilder, you can see, he senses it.
28:19He's getting closer.
28:20Oh, my goodness.
28:27And there's that left hook.
28:28Caught Herndon.
28:30Herndon holding on to the left glove.
28:33And there's that straight right by Wilder.
28:40And I like that Wilder's staying composed.
28:42He's picking smart shots.
28:44Landon clean.
28:45And there's the right hand there.
28:47Caught Herndon.
28:49Final ten.
28:54And Herndon thrown to the ground.
28:58Able to survive.
29:00But, Gabe, you starting to see the legs are going from Herndon.
29:09It's a lot, man.
29:11You got a big guy like Wilder on top of you.
29:13Throwing big shots.
29:15Leading on you.
29:16Putting that weight on you.
29:17He's breaking Herndon down.
29:22And you can starting to see the exhaustion setting in with Herndon.
29:27And it sounds easy when you talk about a guy like Wilder where you're like, I just got to avoid the right hand.
29:35And if I keep the movement, you know, I can pull this off.
29:39Yeah.
29:40But see, what Wilder's doing is he's staying composed.
29:43He's being aggressive, but he's not going crazy.
29:46He's picking his shots wisely.
29:48Right hand.
29:49Slipping.
29:50Throwing that big power jab.
29:52There's that left hook.
29:59And there was a moment you could just see it's wearing on Herndon.
30:08And Wilder just needs to stick to that jab.
30:11Stick to the jab.
30:12The jab is what's working for him.
30:15And again, the movement is almost non-existent now for Herndon.
30:23We saw it in the first few rounds, but it is hard.
30:29It is not as simple as just stick and move against a guy like Wilder.
30:37And there's Wilder again, closing the distance with the right hand.
30:42Herndon trying to push Wilder off.
30:45And there's the right hand that knocks Herndon back.
30:50And Herndon kind of turns his back.
30:54So that's a no-no.
30:57Cannot turn your back.
31:00And Ray Corona, you see him talking to Herndon, kind of warning him,
31:04Hey, you got to show me something.
31:07And there's the right hand blocked by Herndon.
31:13Looping left hook there.
31:22Oh, and that right hand got through the defense of Herndon a bit.
31:26And there's the left hook.
31:28Caught Herndon, and Herndon just kind of turtles up.
31:31And now Herndon just takes a knee, and Ray Corona telling him to get up.
31:39I think it's just a matter of time now, man.
31:41And I think Herndon now is at the point of just trying to survive.
31:52And there's the left hook.
31:53Oh, double in the hook.
31:53Knocks Herndon back.
31:55Oh, double in the hook.
31:55Oh, double in the hook.
31:55Wow, there's shots are getting through.
32:06He hasn't landed flush with that right hand.
32:09It's always partially blocked or getting a little bit through the defense,
32:13but still not yet connected fully.
32:19And there's that right hand.
32:20Gets through the defense again.
32:22And there's a huge right hand.
32:24Knocks back Herndon, and Ray Corona stops it.
32:28And I must say may have been a little bit too early.
32:45I think it was eventually coming, but, I mean, what are your thoughts?
32:50I think Corona was reading the body language of Herndon.
32:54Herndon, body language looked like he was trying to find a way out.
32:59Yeah.
33:00He didn't look like he was actually trying to get back into the fight.
33:04He looked like he was trying to find a way out.
33:06And I think that's why the ref stopped the fight.
33:08He just did him a favor.
33:09Like, okay, you don't want to fight no more.
33:12He was warning him.
33:13Yeah, like, fight back.
33:15The last two rounds, you got to show me something.
33:18It's just the body language.
33:19Taking a knee in the corner, taking your time, like, not throwing back.
33:23You get hit with a big shot right there.
33:25It's like, you know, I would have liked the fight to continue.
33:30Yep.
33:30Because I'd like to see vicious knockouts.
33:32Yeah.
33:33Yeah, it's easier to say.
33:34We're the ones on the outside.
33:35Yeah.
33:35But, you know, the ref was going by the body language, and Herndon wasn't doing anything back.
33:39He wasn't responding.
33:40And he certainly has to protect the fighter.
33:43And I do think we were heading in that direction of a clean knockout.
33:49But, look, Beyonce looked good.
33:51You know, he stuck to that jab in moments where he could have got wild.
33:57He didn't.
33:58He still composed.
34:00Kept with that strong jab.
34:01This is a Wilder that's dangerous.
34:03A Wilder that's disciplined.
34:05That's believing in his jab and the stick behind that jab.
34:08And then throwing his power behind it.
34:10It's amazing.
34:10And I don't think Wilder lost a round in this one.
34:18And his conditioning looked good.
34:20No, he was as fresh as he was from the first round in that final round.
34:25So, but the bronze bomber makes his return.
34:30Let's set it up to our announcer, Lupe Contreras, for the official time of the stoppage.
34:35Ladies and gentlemen, referee Corona steps in call to the action with an official time of 2 minutes 16 seconds of round number 7 declaring the winner.
34:49By way of technical knockout, the bronze bomber, Deontay Wilder.
35:00Big face, I'm here with the bronze bomber, and bomb squad is back, baby, baby.
35:18Wichita!
35:24Deontay, you said all week that you wanted to see where you were at.
35:27How did it feel after the layoff, and how did you feel?
35:32It felt great.
35:33First of all, I'd give thanks to my opponent, man.
35:36You're a tough guy, man.
35:38I appreciate the work.
35:41Wichita, man, thank you for your love and your hospitality.
35:44It's been nothing but amazing being here, man.
35:46Y'all some of the best peoples in the world, man.
35:48I hope I can come back.
35:50I had a lot of, I laid off a long time getting myself back together.
35:54Getting myself mentally, physically, emotionally back together.
35:58It's been a long road for me, you know, and it's just glad to be back in the ring, you know.
36:04I know I didn't get everybody what they truly wanted to see, but we're going to get better and better as we get going, you know.
36:10So, this is a new beginning for me, so we're striving each and every day to be better and better each and every day and give people what they want.
36:18So, the next time out, we're getting better and better.
36:21I promise you that.
36:22So, I'm just glad to be back on this year or two layoff and coming back with a great opponent.
36:29Everybody that faced me, they trained, you know, A1, you know, for me because they know what I'm coming.
36:36They know what I possess.
36:37So, it's been great.
36:39And I just hope everybody get back home safely.
36:43Let's practice love.
36:44Let's practice protecting each other and providing for each other.
36:47Because in this life, all we got is each other, baby.
36:49Wichita, give it up for the Bronze Bomber, Deontay Wilder.
37:01Bronze Bomber, Deontay Wilder.
37:06With the emphatic victory, certainly, as he mentioned, maybe it wasn't the way he wanted it to look.
37:17Yeah.
37:17But he felt good.
37:19And you can see it.
37:21No, I think he looked good.
37:22It was a good comeback.
37:23And you know what, man?
37:25With this win, just go straight to the head, honcho, right?
37:29You know what I'm saying?
37:31Just, I think the fight that everyone wants to see is Anthony, is Joshua and Wilder.
37:38Yeah.
37:38There's a lot of opportunities still left for Deontay.
37:43I mean, he's still a big name in the sport.
37:45When you ask people, you know, about the heavyweight division, people know Deontay Wilder.
37:51They realize he was the chairman.
37:52They know how many memorable knockouts he's had, how many memorable fights he's been in.
37:59So, you know, I would certainly love to still see him.
38:02I'm with someone that would still pay to watch the Joshua fight.
38:05For sure.
38:05And, you know, both guys have been through their ups and downs of the career.
38:11And Deontay, he's got some options out there.
38:20He said Joshua, but he's also, you know, alluded.
38:22There's Francis Ngannou for one of those kind of, you know, I don't want to call it a gimmicky fight,
38:29but Ngannou fought Fury, fought Joshua.
38:32So, you know, he's a potential option for Wilder.
38:38Wilder's also said, you know, he's been wanting to fight all over the world.
38:41He's wanting to fight in Africa.
38:44You know, we've seen him fight in Saudi Arabia.
38:45So, he said there's potential to fight around the world somewhere.
38:49So, it doesn't sound like a guy that's ready to hang him up, babe.
38:54No.
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