BUZZ EP -05

ARY Digital

Buzz Episode - 05 | 28 June 2025 | Feroz Kadri | Marina Khan | Hassan Choudary | ARY Digital  Host:  Hassan Choudary Guest: Marina Khan , Feroz Kadri   Buzz — The Show That Talks!  A brand-new celebrity talk show with a twist — Buzz is where real conversations happen! Join Hassan Choudary as he sits down with your favorite stars for engaging, unfiltered, and fun-filled discussions.  #buzz #ferozkadri #marinakhan  #hassanchoudary #buzztalkshow

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00:00My name is Hassan Chaudhry and this is Buzz!

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01:56The third story, I don't know that you will see a lot of promos.

02:02The first promo came, there was a big feedback, excitement is on the rise.

02:07The first promo came after that this is a love story.

02:12But for me, the most striking thing in this drama is that it is so important that it is difficult to press.

02:19I am so excited to see Sanam Saeed back on screen and paired alongside Humayun Saeed,

02:24who is also watching Sajjal Ali.

02:31The story of 212 murders.

02:35Good morning.

02:37Go away, Mantu.

02:38Go away, Mantu.

02:39Go away, Mantu.

02:40Go away, Mantu.

02:42Mantu was not afraid of anyone.

02:44Please, Miss Maria.

02:45He is not a good guy.

02:46He will kill you.

02:47He will kill you.

02:48He will kill you.

02:49He will kill you.

02:50He will kill you.

02:51I am sorry.

02:52How are you looking at me?

02:53Tell me, I had to get rid of it from the garden.

02:55One time, my heart came, I had to kill you.

02:58He will kill you.

02:59I thought, it will be very silly.

03:02He will kill you.

03:03He will kill you in the name of a innocent person.

03:07You have to call me innocent.

03:09Thank you sir.

03:10Thank you, sir.

03:40I hope that you will get to see this drama very soon.

03:55I'm saying that you have calculated your calculation for yourself

03:59that it will be going to be very soon.

04:02I'm not going to get to meet with Shani.

04:05I can't take the risk again.

04:08Now, Shani wants me to take my home.

04:11How much I feel rejected!

04:13When I look for Shani,

04:15my lack of weakness will reach me.

04:17It gives me more relief.

04:19Where did Shani come from?

04:21He told me to take it to Shani.

04:23I'm not going to take my child to take my home.

04:27I'm not going to get the police in your house.

04:29My father was going to take it.

04:31It's not going to take it, it's going to take it.

04:33If it's a disaster, the son remembered.

04:35Now, let's see.

04:38I'm not going to take two hours of my son.

04:43And where we talk about the staff,

04:45we have thought, why not?

04:46We have thought before you,

04:48in your mind,

04:50and where we have so many questions,

04:52complaints and complaints,

04:54we can address them.

04:56So, today, we have brought the staff to the staff.

05:00Today, we will give them some concerns.

05:02We will share some concerns,

05:04and we will try to answer them.

05:06We will take all the answers,

05:07which was waiting for you for a long time.

05:09And not only today,

05:10we will join the director of the staff,

05:12but we will invite them to the staff,

05:14and we will also invite them to the staff.

05:17And we will also get the opportunity.

05:19Although they didn't have a lot of time in the industry,

05:21but then,

05:22they will have a lot of concerns.

05:24Ladies and gentlemen,

05:26we are coming to the bus,

05:27the legendary Marina Khan,

05:29and a very versatile Viroz Kadri.

05:32while we are in the business.

05:33Assalamualaikum.

05:34Waalaikumussalam.

05:35A pleasure to have you.

05:36Assalamualaikumussalam.

05:37Please have a seat.

05:39Thank you so much for coming to my show,

05:41Satsha Panic.

05:42And you have a happy birthday.

05:44Dastak has had a wonderful run.

05:46Andra ji, tell us,

05:47how has Dastak come to you and how has the project started?

05:54Nadeem Beg came from Nadeem.

05:56So, Nadeem contacted me.

05:59I was in negotiations that time with another,

06:02production company and then Dastak came and that one fell through and I just got very lucky to

06:12have come across too. The thing that I really liked about the script that there was no

06:17villain as such you know there was no sass as such that was the if you look at all the characters

06:24even though the biggest villain is sitting next to me yet he comes from a place you know the I think

06:34the research. There's a baggage. No the research of the character but you know all the characters had

06:40quite a lot of depth and of course our Mahmood was very popular, Suhail Sameer which I was very

06:47pleasantly very surprised about because my two most positive characters which were smaller roles

06:54support roles was the Mahmood role and the sister what was her name and you know they got a very

07:05good response both of these so that was a very good feeling.

07:09Okay, Viroz, as Marina ji is saying and we have also seen that the story of a girl's

07:14story was a girl's story. When you have a script and there is a grey character, there is no

07:21negative name but it is grey character. So there were some reservations or did you have

07:26anything in this script that you said I will do it? There was no reservation. I had a meeting with

07:32Nadeem Bhai. He was kind enough and he said in the first meeting that you have to do it. I had just done

07:38one of the first one. There was a gap. So when it came, when I read the script, it was so sensible

07:48and it was very logical. And when the character of Saif also read it, he understood that it has a

07:55backstory behind it. There is a logic behind it. Whatever he is doing, he doesn't do it. If there is a negative shade

08:02behind it, there was a backstory behind it. There was a girl who likes it. And I think me and Marina ji

08:09worked on it as well. That we can create a backstory of her and tell us that if it is

08:14like this, then why is it? So, Sarvan Nazir Sahibah's writing is very good.

08:19Marina ji, as the director of DAS, do you not think that the other girl's track,

08:27Mominah's character has been demonized? Because if you look at it, it was both love

08:35from each other. Nothing wrong with it. And Saif has cheated on it, it was just that she did it.

08:39Mominah's character, I think you agree with that. Mominah's character has cheated on it.

08:45Mominah's character has cheated on it. Yes, Mominah's character has cheated on it.

08:49I think Firoz will agree with me that Mominah's character has reduced

08:52a little bit. The friction that has had to be done. That we have reduced it.

09:00Because if a person or a woman is so much in love, that will end it. It is not going to

09:08normalize. It is going to be a... Even though we have seen that it has been 5 years and

09:12been there and done that. But we have been toned down. And if you listen to Mominah's

09:22words, they are very intelligent. She has an answer for everything. And they are good answers.

09:29Because if her voice is saying something, especially when they start talking about the child and wanting

09:35the child, they say, wow, you are saying that the child is going to be the other. But I think it is the way

09:40she says it, that the viewer feels that she is doing bad-tumizy. She is doing bad-tumizy.

09:44Yes, but if she is very sweet, then there would be no conflict, there would be no friction, there would be no...

09:49It is actually tons. It is more tons than bad-tumizy.

09:53As the actor who played Saif, you will tell that Saif's point,

09:58Kiran's inclination was good. It was good, it was true. I am surprised because I think before the play

10:06started, we had so many conversations on this. On this?

10:09Yes, yes, I sent her a voice note to me. She was kind enough.

10:12You hear me, you hear a voice note to me. It is very rare.

10:17With them and with Sohai, I have had many conversations and it is such a joy because

10:25you get to know that someone has read the script.

10:30He has read the script. I am not the only one who has read the script.

10:35So, I love it when actors get so passionate about their roles. I mean, even though I don't agree

10:42with a lot of things he said, I am sure he didn't agree with a lot of things I said,

10:46but the fact that you are passionate about it.

10:49For me, the important thing was that when I was giving him the first time,

10:53I had a lot of tension. I said, I am not Marina Khan.

10:56I am a man nobody and I am just going to speak. When it happened, I said,

11:01I can't delete it. She said a lot.

11:04She was kind enough and she was receptive and I felt that she is on board with me.

11:10She wants to have a conversation. It is so big, especially for a new actor.

11:15Marina, there are some stories that we see on our screens,

11:19whose sole purpose is entertainment. There is no such lesson as such. There is a

11:24discipline. So, was it the need to tell this story that we want to do something for

11:30the children of the children of the society?

11:33So, I don't think, when the stories are written, obviously, you think that it may have impact on two people.

11:44Not necessarily. It may not happen in society. You can see our old films,

11:48our 70s, 80s. All of them had amazing themes. All of them.

11:52My society, there is no doubt in society. But even if it affects two or three people or four or five people,

12:00it resonates with people. So, this story resonated with a lot of people.

12:04But the medium of the medium, film and television, I think the impact is very different.

12:09Television, because people in the house are very easy access,

12:14there is a financial barrier for the film. There is X amount of money that you have to spend.

12:19I think TV does have that kind of impact. It does. It does. But not to the point that

12:27every writer thinks that, oh, I'm going to write this and this is the change that's going to happen in.

12:32But yes, the reason you're writing it is obviously because you're feeling that this is something

12:38I want to talk about and I want to put out there. But not necessarily that it's going to change.

12:43But the way it's, I'm not a social media person, but through Firoz and Sohai, I was getting all,

12:51because they're reading all the comments and all that and all the discussions and all that.

12:54And I was very impressed that, you know, it is being discussed.

12:57Firoz, what did you feel about the impact of the story of the story of the 10-10?

13:01There was a lot of courage for women. For sure.

13:04It wasn't before, it was a question. Now it's been created.

13:06No, it's been increased. It's been increased. For sure.

13:11Especially because, look, a woman is directing.

13:14Yeah.

13:15Sohai, as you perform it, that's also an impact on your head.

13:21And then, in other words, the story of the story I've written,

13:24usually, the dramas we see are sensationalized. Usually.

13:31The main thing is that this story will read the story of the subtlety.

13:36I feel like that.

13:37Then, Firoz, you have decided on where I want to draw line for Saif's actions.

13:43Or you said, just like this. It's just like that.

13:46You get a creative license, it's a negative character.

13:49As an actor, I try to tone down the scenes as much as I can.

13:54It's my choice.

13:56If the scene is here, I try to play it here.

14:00Because there were some scenes that were loud,

14:03like the person who is holding the hand and the person who is holding the hand in the back,

14:06it's not there, so you have to let go.

14:09But you can't let go all the time.

14:10Because if a person is so bad in the real world,

14:13then he can't stay at that level every time.

14:16Because you thought about this redemption arc.

14:19Marina, because people don't think about it and don't think about it.

14:23No, the problem, I feel, is that if you're bad, you're just bad.

14:28You're bad.

14:29So there's no break.

14:31There's just no break. And there has to be a break.

14:33Because if you constantly do bad, it becomes run of the mill.

14:38Okay, let's do this again. Let's go ahead.

14:40But if there's a surprise attack and the person is good at once,

14:45you know, there has to be some movement in,

14:48like every scene has a movement, a play,

14:52and the same thing with the character within that scene.

14:55Sometimes I feel glorified as well.

14:59Sometimes negativity is packaged as well.

15:02So I feel that it's unfortunate.

15:04What are we going towards Saif's redemption?

15:06That's what you can see.

15:07Because in this light,

15:09now, let's go ahead, Kiran's side,

15:11his attitude was not so true.

15:13But Shani's side is true.

15:14It's the same.

15:15Yes, yes.

15:16Now there's no hidden agenda.

15:18No, no.

15:19So, I'll tell you that when Shani came back to his life,

15:24when I saw Shani's side,

15:26I'm talking about the motive of it.

15:27I read the comments about where he was at 5 years later.

15:30Okay, the truth is absolutely right.

15:32I disagree with that.

15:34Because he didn't ask for it.

15:35And if maybe his children get into it,

15:37then you didn't ask for it.

15:38But you did it, right?

15:39You did it.

15:40Exactly.

15:40This is what I thought.

15:42When there was that scene,

15:44when Shani's side is happening

15:45and Kiran's side is watching it.

15:48I was like, more than anything else,

15:50he's jealous of it.

15:51Because the child is connecting with his father.

15:53And if the child is connecting with his father,

15:56then what is the problem?

15:57No, exactly.

15:58But I think Kiran's angst is that

16:01I am the one, you know,

16:03he becomes so much.

16:05Like even Shamoon's character.

16:07When Shamoon, Mois's father's character,

16:11I didn't understand that

16:13I am the one who loves his wife,

16:15his wife, his daughter,

16:17he treated her like the daughter.

16:21They lost a girl, child.

16:24You know, why is he going to hate this woman so much?

16:27So, a back story,

16:29which was his brother died because of this.

16:32Blah, blah, blah.

16:32And then after the brother's story,

16:35then he becomes sad.

16:36And that I saw with my mum

16:38when I was marrying my husband.

16:40I mean, she and I had a very close relationship.

16:43But he became sad.

16:45It was before that society won't accept it.

16:48If he does it, your father is not going to accept it.

16:50If he does it, it was justice.

16:52To the point that my father almost came to my wedding.

16:56But because of mummy, he didn't.

16:58And my mother did exactly this.

16:59She was a total Gora

17:00who married a Pakistani.

17:02I just married a Christian, you know,

17:04who was born and brought up in Pakistan.

17:06So, she and because of her, he didn't come.

17:10So, that was in my mind that it became sad.

17:13So, I think that with Kiran,

17:15she was scared that the child is now going to start liking the father.

17:21and, you know, he is giving guns.

17:23All the things she didn't, you know,

17:25Approve of.

17:26And this guy is coming and, you know,

17:28he is doing all of this.

17:30So, obviously,

17:31a possessiveness of the mother is going to come into play.

17:36You know, it has to come into play.

17:38In my opinion, the best thing about Kiran is the best thing.

17:40As you mentioned, Kiran is now jealous.

17:43These are all real emotions.

17:45One person can't be good at all.

17:47Yeah.

17:48And one person can't be bad at all.

17:49That's right.

17:50Okay, on that note,

17:52let's go to a break.

17:53When we come back from the break,

17:55I have a lot of questions related to me.

17:57And, generally,

17:59when we have so many questions in our industry,

18:00we also need to get angry.

18:02Khwateen,

18:03you want a little break from the break?

18:05When we come back from the break,

18:06then our gif tuku will be done.

18:08You don't know where to go.

18:13Welcome back, Khwateen and Azraat.

18:14Our friends are Marina Khansahiva and Firoz Qadri.

18:17Okay, Marina,

18:18now the criticism of the criticism,

18:20we have done a lot of the stories.

18:22No, no, no, no.

18:22We have listened to it.

18:23I have listened to it.

18:25I have listened to it on my show.

18:26They are saying that people are dragged away.

18:29Why?

18:30We are nearing almost 40 episodes.

18:32We will see that.

18:33Do I have an answer to it?

18:36Do I have an answer to it?

18:37Do I have an answer to it?

18:38But when we write it, it is 26.

18:40Okay.

18:41How are these 26 episodes?

18:42Marina Ji, how do they become 40?

18:44Yes, yes.

18:44She knows how many of them are.

18:48So, we always write more.

18:50And when I did my first edit, I took out 30.

18:56Because I was counting.

18:57I am counting pages.

18:59The industry standard is not ours.

19:02But it is a minute page, right?

19:04So, you take out 38 minutes.

19:06Make a maximum of 40.

19:07You can't do less.

19:08You can do more.

19:09Then you have a screenplay.

19:11Then you have a lot of things.

19:12Because we do not write a lot of things as a writer.

19:17It is not so much of a screenplay.

19:20You have to give it a lot of time.

19:24You have to do this or not slow motion.

19:27So, we do it.

19:29I think the same thing with Mushkil.

19:31It was 26 episodes.

19:32We got 49.

19:33Almost 50 episodes.

19:35So, is this a problem?

19:37It's just a problem that you write a lot.

19:40But you have to write it systematically.

19:43You have to break it.

19:44Because what happens?

19:45Our climaxes, they end up.

19:49Abis Raza played a play.

19:50I think it was in ARY.

19:52The horror thing that he made.

19:54Bandish.

19:55Bandish was short and sweet.

19:58And their climaxes, oh my god.

20:00I thought that when it was being recorded, I thought that if these climaxes are going to be a murder for this script.

20:07But thank god they didn't.

20:08And such amazing climaxes, the gentleman had written.

20:11So, here all our climaxes are finished.

20:14So, the thing is that if it's a 39 minutes content that we have to provide to a channel, then you should write 39 pages and one or two more pages.

20:24And then you can edit it.

20:27So, that's it.

20:29But you write 60 pages, that's not one episode.

20:32That's a film.

20:34As a director, you don't have that call on set.

20:36For example, when I was watching it, I thought that Fiza Khala is now being introduced after the 30th episode.

20:44And Mamu was not in full time.

20:46So, why are we now making it?

20:49Why do we get it?

20:50I am not even sure because the scenes are very long.

20:53And I am not 100% sure whether it was Sarvat or it was also.

20:59Because when the script goes through two or three hands, then you get a little confused.

21:03Where is the story coming?

21:06Where is the story coming?

21:07So, I am not sure.

21:09I don't really want to take any names because I wouldn't be sure that where this thing went wrong.

21:16When a main character is introduced in the 16th episode, Moe's.

21:20So, let's see if Fiza Khala is here, I would like to go to supporting characters.

21:24How critical are you taking your dramas, stories, characters and performances?

21:31Do you have self-analysis?

21:32What do you do?

21:33Very much.

21:33Because many people don't do this.

21:35No, very much.

21:37I am watching every scene three times.

21:39I watch every scene three times.

21:40And you will watch the drama too?

21:42Yes, I watch it.

21:44And my family is sitting behind my wife.

21:49For instance, if there is a problem in pronunciation.

21:51Oh!

21:52It is so critical that you are watching.

21:54The English is fine for me.

21:55The English is fine for me.

21:56The English is fine for me.

21:57And he always tells me that you are going to be Fawad Khan.

22:01Where will you be from?

22:02You can see that you have spoken a little bit like that.

22:05So, it happens a lot.

22:06And that's why I am on set as well, if I feel like there is a word of Urdu,

22:10which is probably not coming to me.

22:12Or the English.

22:14I google it in foreign.

22:15I don't even know it.

22:17I don't even know it.

22:18I say that if someone else is doing it,

22:20then you should listen to it.

22:21Yeah, yeah.

22:22And it's very important.

22:23It's very important.

22:24Very important.

22:25When you are playing a character,

22:27the problem is that we don't play characters.

22:30If you are a character and you are playing it,

22:33then you need to be true to that character.

22:35Then, from the side of the actor,

22:37there is a little research.

22:38Yeah.

22:39There is an angle to come.

22:41Because there is also a frequency of the scene.

22:43And if there are two actors,

22:45there is action-reaction.

22:46So, it should be in equilibrium.

22:48And if it will be a little balance out,

22:50then it will get worse on the screen.

22:52And then, when you will see it later,

22:54and as a person like me,

22:55it will also be a good person.

22:56I will see what I have done.

22:57Okay, Marina,

22:58if you are getting rid of it,

23:00mashallah, you being a national icon,

23:03at one point also, the national crush also.

23:06When and why did you decide to become a director?

23:10Oh, I think

23:14I think ever since Tanaya.

23:17Actually, I was fascinated by my director,

23:20Shizat Khalil.

23:21I mean, I think he was one of the most

23:23amazing human beings I have ever met in my life.

23:25And I was fascinated with the way he used to work.

23:28I mean, because while we were recording,

23:33we were on air, you know,

23:34but we had obviously the luxury of the entire week

23:37to record an episode or an episode and a half.

23:40But the way I saw how he handled people,

23:46which I don't at all.

23:47You can ask my crew.

23:49They hate me.

23:50I will ask everyone else.

23:51The way he handles people, even us as actors, the way he, you know,

24:04and also, I think, when we came to the television,

24:07the director was the person.

24:09The real captain of it.

24:11Yes, yes.

24:12I mean, if he said that it's not,

24:14then it doesn't mean that.

24:15And how he respected everyone around,

24:19how he managed to get that whole serial done,

24:23that it will be edited in the evening,

24:25you know, like, I just saw how he managed,

24:27and I just love that environment of that creativity

24:33that a director goes through,

24:35from script to, you know,

24:37I was fascinated by that, always, always.

24:40And I said, at one point, I want to be him.

24:42So, is this a difficult task to make a director and direct?

24:45It doesn't need to be difficult.

24:47But it is.

24:48Is it in our area?

24:49In our area, the problem is that,

24:51because in our fields,

24:54the different departments,

24:55there is no good training.

24:58There is also a little bit of training,

25:00whatever is available to you.

25:03Every job has a responsibility.

25:07Every job has a responsibility.

25:08I think that those responsibilities,

25:10they have to fade in all of the different departments.

25:16How do you think things have changed?

25:18Because you were, you are the golden era.

25:22And now, today, mashallah,

25:24our drama is popular too.

25:26It is a lot.

25:27Oh my God.

25:28Oh my God.

25:29I didn't know that much.

25:30What is your assessment?

25:31What has changed?

25:33I mean, the good drama in television,

25:36I am sorry, it is bad, but it is good.

25:38You can see the level of acting.

25:41It is at par with anything anywhere in the world.

25:44Anyway, I feel there are five or six players that are now,

25:48that are on, that can go to any platform in the world

25:51and they will be revered.

25:52And you know that,

25:55like you say that you have to open the world and perform it.

25:58I didn't say that it would not happen at all.

26:00Because obviously, it was a different era.

26:02There was a different style.

26:03There was, maybe the scripts were slightly different.

26:07Now, we started to get more bold scripts,

26:09even though we had bold scripts then.

26:10But what happens, I mean, like if you look at,

26:13there is, again, there is a drama on right now called Parvrish AR.

26:17Thank God.

26:18It is awesome.

26:20I mean, you look at those kids.

26:21They are kids.

26:22They are kids.

26:23They are kids.

26:24And I say that when you shoot,

26:27there is everything around you.

26:29And for, you do get a little conscious,

26:35that if I do this, I will not be afraid of it.

26:37If I do this, I will not be afraid of it.

26:38I will not be afraid of it.

26:40But you are leaving everything and your performances.

26:43You know, that kind of stuff that is happening right now,

26:46I feel, which is fantastic.

26:50The main thing that has gone wrong, the main thing is punctuality.

26:54Zero punctuality.

26:56From the actors?

26:58From now everyone.

27:00I mean, sometimes you reach the crew,

27:03but actors, for sure, definitely punctuality.

27:08If you have 10 o'clock call time,

27:13one pick-up time or one call time.

27:17If it's pick-up time, you should be in that car at 10 o'clock.

27:20Because, see, an actor has two things to do.

27:24Get to set on time and know their lines.

27:27These two things are missing.

27:29That's it.

27:30That's your job.

27:31That's literally your job.

27:32And a production, for sure, tries to make them as comfortable as possible.

27:36Sometimes, yes, certain production people may not.

27:41Because, you know, we hear a lot of complaints also.

27:44But they have to try and make them as comfortable as possible.

27:48So there's no reason for that.

27:50And that's why your timelines are disturbed.

27:54Then the other thing is that I feel that channels, production houses,

28:00and they're not in sync.

28:03A channel needs to put a show on air.

28:06If it needs to put a show on air,

28:08it needs to tell the production house that you have only this much time.

28:12Yeah. Then that director needs to know that we have enough time.

28:16Because when you're only 30% in production and you've been put on air,

28:24then you're going to scramble.

28:26Then you don't do it.

28:27And then, you'll get the script, you'll get the script, you'll get the director.

28:32Do you think there's no choice?

28:34There's no choice to write the director for the people.

28:37A hundred percent. I agree.

28:38I agree with you.

28:39Especially after my first serial.

28:40After my first serial. Because it was so hard.

28:42So after that, I was so spoiled.

28:44After that, the work is regular.

28:46That's what it is.

28:47And when I came to office, I was studying.

28:50I said, this is how it is going to be done.

28:53So this is what it is.

28:55I really think that the writers actually are less.

28:57I really think.

28:58I think so.

28:59It put on the writer.

29:01But I think that they're writing all the same tangents.

29:04They're being dictated to us.

29:06But the main slot is 8 o'clock.

29:09But if you look at the 7 o'clock and the 9 o'clock, they're all soaps.

29:12I mean, they're the same stories that we are just…

29:15Marina, do you think actors have become more difficult?

29:20Or was it difficult for you?

29:22When you made your debut?

29:24Because actors' pool has increased, competition has increased.

29:28You think it was easier back then to become an actor compared to now?

29:32Or now it's easier because there are mediums and channels too?

29:35I'm not sure.

29:36I'm not sure.

29:37But I do remember that Shizad Sahib used to struggle also.

29:40Okay.

29:41Because people used to come a lot for auditions.

29:43Because see, a lot of people are coming in for acting because…

29:46Why is he being a star?

29:47He doesn't have to be acting.

29:49He doesn't have to be acting.

29:50He doesn't have to be acting.

29:51He doesn't have to be acting.

29:52He doesn't have to be acting.

29:53So, if you are, his performance is better.

29:56You know that this person has got the job.

29:59And I think there's no platform too.

30:01Where you have to be acting, actors…

30:03Yes, there are no schools.

30:04There are no training.

30:05There are no training.

30:06That's not that.

30:07That's very necessary.

30:08There's a connection to that.

30:09I think there's a connection to that.

30:11There's a connection to that.

30:12If you get a number of people or somewhere.

30:13Because I think walk-in and I don't think you'll get anywhere.

30:17You'll get a small role.

30:18You'll get a small role.

30:19But maybe you'll get an extra type of role.

30:21But for a lead role or a major supporting role,

30:25I think you need to have some sort of connection.

30:28Yeah.

30:29But Marina Ji, you have an additional view because you're watching a lot of content.

30:33Because you review content on another platform.

30:36By the way, there's also a question.

30:38Is this not a conflict of interest?

30:40Because you…

30:41Conflict of interest?

30:42Because you direct and you work with all these people and then you're reviewing their content.

30:46No. So, when they are reviewing Dastak, I'm sitting there.

30:50Okay.

30:51But aren't they your colleagues?

30:53Yeah, yeah.

30:54Nadia has finished Dastak.

30:56She said, I hope I don't have any more.

31:00I said, that's your view.

31:02That is your view of how you saw something.

31:04Atika was different.

31:06Nadia said, but I don't say a word.

31:08I can't say a word because when we are reviewing,

31:10the other people don't have the opportunity to say anything back to us.

31:15The thing that I, the way I see it, when you talk about not criticism, but a critique.

31:21A critique is just the play, what we see.

31:25But I think initially what a lot of people were thinking that we were going to come and we were going to start talking about the, all the gossip that happens.

31:36And, you know, I think that is what a lot of people were scared about initially.

31:39And I think slowly, slowly, slowly, there has been an acceptability.

31:44You know, I've heard some very interesting things.

31:47And I've heard some, you know, things that, you know,

31:50galiyan shaliyan bhi milti hain.

31:51Lekin bharat positive cheeze bhi milti hain through the fraternity.

31:55And because you are watching so much work, how do you rate the current state of Pakistani dramas?

32:02Are you happy?

32:03I am happy that I feel personally that our narrative is changing.

32:10It should be very slow, slow steps.

32:13You can't suddenly say that I am going to.

32:15For a play like Parwarish to work,

32:18that's a proud moment.

32:20Because it is so off the charts.

32:24It's so off the main band.

32:25The checkboxes are going to be an actor, this will be a lead.

32:28Exactly.

32:29And here are these youngsters who are at par with Savera and Numan.

32:35And, you know, and they are just killing it.

32:38They are killing it. The story is killing it.

32:40The direction is killing it.

32:41I think even Cher in one way, I am enjoying it for the kind of play it is.

32:46It is a little louder. It is a little larger than life.

32:49But there is an interesting story.

32:51So the stories, I feel, are getting much more interesting.

32:54Not all of our 8 o'clock content is, you know, catering towards, and there is a pace.

33:01I think Parwarish has a little miss, that if you are stars, you will only do it.

33:04I mean, those two have become stars now, mashallah.

33:07Exactly, exactly, exactly.

33:09I mean, I think Meesum is the star.

33:11I remember I had a discussion with one of the production houses.

33:15I wanted to meet them.

33:17So I was telling them that you give me an opportunity.

33:20But I didn't know anything about it.

33:22So they told me that we have time left.

33:24So I told them that this is not a film.

33:26Because in the film, you have to have a star.

33:30That one person has to go out of the car.

33:33You have to go to the cinema and see that person.

33:36In India, for example, these stars are made like this.

33:40Pakistan's story is that the content is important here.

33:44What's next for Firoz Qadri now?

33:46It's going to be finished by the 10th.

33:48Are you shooting?

33:49Yes, I am. I am doing something.

33:52It's a great series.

33:55I'm doing it.

33:56I can't even tell you about it.

33:58But the role is like this?

34:00Is it like this?

34:01No, it's positive.

34:02It's positive.

34:03Out and out is positive.

34:05And again, it's sensible.

34:07It's a very good script.

34:09I'm happy because as an actor,

34:12I think the views and ratings are a by-product.

34:18You should be a good job.

34:19And you should be a good job.

34:21And you should be a good job.

34:23And you should be a good job when the content is sensible.

34:26The character is a sensible way.

34:29There is a sensitivity.

34:31Otherwise, you know that there are a lot of drama.

34:34There are a lot of over-the-top things.

34:35And people also enjoy it.

34:37So, I think it should be slow and steady.

34:39Slow and steady wins the race.

34:41Yeah.

34:42And Marina ji, what about you?

34:43In this time, more direction, more acting?

34:46Sleep.

34:49I want to sleep.

34:51I want to sleep.

34:53Do you have to sleep in the drama?

34:54No.

34:55No.

34:56But one thing I loved about Dastak was also that you actually went to the airport and shoot scenes.

35:02How much is it in our drama to go to the airport and shoot?

35:05Because you had multiple shots in the airport.

35:08Yeah, yeah, we had about one, two, three, four scenes, I think.

35:12Four.

35:12We never see the actual airport being shown in dramas.

35:16How did, is it difficult?

35:18Apparently, they said that you have to, you have to give the date a month in advance.

35:23You have to give everyone's name.

35:25Okay.

35:26So, I think that's the process.

35:27Just so much?

35:28Yes.

35:29So, it happened once and I think one of the actors couldn't make it.

35:33I can't remember.

35:34But then we had to delay later.

35:36So, but we got it.

35:38We got it.

35:38Because otherwise, I thought, because, I won't say it, but there was an important scene that had to be done and it could only be done at the airport.

35:47So, we were thinking, what can we do?

35:49So, they got me the airport.

35:52I would encourage more directors to do this, please.

35:54If you take permission for one month and actually shoot at the airport because it adds so much more impact.

36:01Yeah.

36:01And there was just one scene where he is just going down the escalator or going up.

36:04And I was like, yeah, he is just going down the escalator or going up.

36:06And I was like, yeah, he is just going down the escalator or going up.

36:07So, it's the effort that counts.

36:09Thank you so much, Marina.

36:10Thank you so much, Firoz.

36:11It was a pleasure.

36:13I got to learn a lot about this conversation.

36:16I am sure our viewers will know a lot about some of their concerns.

36:20I am sure they will be addressed.

36:22Wish you both all the very best.

36:23Thank you so much.

36:24For your upcoming projects.

36:25Ladies and gentlemen, today's guest is a great opportunity.

36:28Inshallah, you will see you again in the next few weeks.

36:30Until then, you will remember your thoughts and your thoughts.

36:33God bless you.

36:34God bless you.

36:35God bless you.

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36:38God bless you.

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