00:00But I also say this when it comes to working for Colin Morikawa, I think that's probably one of the most challenging bags to work for because of the way he plays the game.
00:10I think it's very difficult to club him because he hits he hits shots that nobody else hits.
00:17When I when I can describe to you that he can be 180 yards and you just say, you know what, I think I'm just going to hit like I'm just going to take a lot off this five iron.
00:27I'm just going to kind of chip fade one and shoot.
00:31He could have been working for Max and that could have been, you know, let's let's hit seven iron here.
00:35You know, I think it's it's very tough.
00:38I think he's probably the most difficult player to caddy for.
00:41And he's and I say that because he's really, really, really good and he's really, really accurate.
00:48He's very, very good at hitting his numbers.
00:50But I think it's challenging to caddy for somebody that that sees spin so much differently than most other two were players.
00:59And, you know, I think that's so interesting because who he has on this bag this week and I'm going to completely butcher this guy's last name.
01:06But it's a former Cal teammate KK Limba said I you can go look it up.
01:11It's in that same story that Adam Shupak wrote L.I.M.B.H.A.S.U.T.
01:16But a guy that if he's played some level of golf with Colin for an extended period of time, maybe has more familiarity with all the shots that Colin has in his bag and can play.
01:25Now, I'm not suggesting that that's going to be the long term solution on Colin's bag.
01:29But let's delve into that a little bit further.
01:31So I think that's interesting.
01:32You and I kind of talked in the lead up to the show about where Colin is mentally.
01:36You see kind of the frustration with the media that's been building over the past few months, the caddy changes he's making now now twice in the season and just feeling like really dating back to the end of last season where he if there are no starting strokes of the tour championship, as there will be this year in Atlanta, he walks away with the trophy.
01:58And so that sort of press for at what point is my good play going to get rewarded with the win?
02:03And how do you think it's a two part?
02:07Maybe we start with the first part, which is like, how do you find a caddy when you're in that mental state that can both cope with where you are in a state of really feeling like you're due to win or you're owed to win?
02:20But you also have this very unique set of shots and game that you can't just pick up in a five week span as Joe Griner has attempted to do.
02:27Yeah, I think it's it's a bit of trial and error with caddies to kind of figure out who's going to be the person that meshes the best with his, you know, verbal cues on, you know, it really isn't a very long time you have to say the right information and make sure that you don't screw up the player's mind and the shot that he sees.
02:45And sometimes that, you know, a caddy that comes in, they're going to ask more questions when a player maybe doesn't want to to have more information to talk about.
02:56It's like, hey, I see this.
02:57And sometimes the caddy doesn't know what to say because it's such a different way to play the game that you really need somebody that really understands his game, which, hey, maybe maybe this guy that's caddying for him this week could be somebody that ends up caddying for him long term.
03:14I mean, Colin needs somebody that that can just help him kind of get through this little rough patch.
03:22And this is a perfect person to have somebody that he's that he's close with, knows his game.
03:27I think finding a high level PGA Tour caddy and it's going to take a minute because like Joe, you would think would be the perfect type of guy, you know, like he's a friendly guy.
03:41And he seems so engaged with Max throughout all those processes.
03:44Are there names of caddies that are recognizable to the public that, you know, where you could reference?
03:50It's like this is the type of guy who either thinks through it at a highly analytical level or you could reference where it's like this is the type of guy that Colin needs, whether or not he already has a bag.
03:59Well, he needs a no BS guy.
04:00Colin's not somebody that like he sure he'll have a laugh out there.
04:05But for the most part, it's business as usual with Colin.
04:08And for the most part, J.J. always kind of represented that that same type of state of mind when I when I would be around him, too.
04:17You know, it would be interesting to see.
04:19Well, maybe he ends up back with J.J. and long, you know, a couple of months from now.
04:24Who knows?
04:25Maybe Thor and J.J. win this week.
04:28And maybe that's going to be a new partnership for the next decade.
04:32Who knows?
04:33You know, it's a new partnership for the next decade.
