00:02Today I'm going to share a little bit of a special news.
00:05It's the new new new new treatment center.
00:10This is a development disorder, especially the spectrum of children,
00:15who can express their own mind and communicate with a special treatment.
00:21This is a special treatment center for me.
00:24I personally have a lot of pride and pride in this person.
00:29Hi, my name is Chen근ah.
00:32Hello, my name is Chen근ah.
00:34I'm a chemist for the first time.
00:38Today, we've been here with Kim Iljung, and we've been here for a long time.
00:44Yes, it's been a long time ago.
00:45We've had a program called EBS, and we've had a lot of fun together.
00:51We've had a lot of fun together.
00:53It's also a great honor, and we've been here for a long time.
00:58I really appreciate it.
01:00We've had a program called EBS,
01:03and we've had a lot of patients with the patient's patients.
01:06Yes, it's true.
01:07I've had a lot of experience with the experience,
01:10and I've had a special guest with the Givilsung Adanaunser.
01:15It's a great honor.
01:16But today, it's a very special place to hear.
01:21It's a new doctor's center.
01:24The center is a long time for me to have a dream that I had to be able to achieve a dream.
01:33So I'm going to have a start with the beginning of the year.
01:36I'm going to share this with you.
01:40I'm going to have a dream that I've been able to do with you.
01:46We are so proud to be able to create a program for this program,
01:52that is how you can achieve it.
01:55We are now in a way of growing up.
01:58We are now in a way of growing up.
02:01We are now in a way of growing up.
02:03We can't live up with our child?
02:06We can't live up with our child?
02:09We can't live up with our child?
02:13I think I'm very surprised when I think there's people with this kind of program that's the way I've done.
02:18So I think there's a lot of work that can be done in my hospital,
02:22because I think there's a lot of work that I've been doing this in my hospital,
02:27and I think that there's a lot of work that I've done for them.
02:31So the STD-19 program will be able to be a dream that will be a dream that will be possible in the future.
02:46We are both parents that are the best hope for the future.
02:53It's just a dream that it's not just a dream.
02:56Then, the center of the Minunki Center is the place to talk about what is the place called.
03:02What is the place called what is the place called?
03:04The center is the artist of the Korean women's members of the U.S.S.
03:11who has a wealth and a wealth of knowledge of the people who have been involved in this place.
03:17We have the children who are using music and music,
03:26and we have a program of work and work to work together with a program.
03:33We have the ability to express their feelings and feel the ability to express their feelings,
03:42and that's what we're doing to help people with a better care.
03:48That's a very deep meaning of the treatment center.
03:52But we have a lot of information about the 발달 syndrome,
03:55but the spectrum of the spectrum is what we're talking about.
04:01It's not a good thing.
04:03What is the type of the spectrum of the 발달 syndrome?
04:05What is the type of the spectrum of the 발달 syndrome?
04:09What is the type of the type of the spectrum?
04:11In the words of a word that can be used as a teacher, a person that can be used,
04:15a person who can be used in an individual, a person who can be used in a way of finding a child.
04:20It can be a totally different aspect of their school,
04:23but in the sense that it can be used to be a peer-repeer spectrum,
04:28also being used to be a peer-repeer spectrum.
04:30so that they have a spectrum of children whose children have spectrum injuries.
04:36These parents, the Swedish pusillinger, the local community,
04:40or the type of TB' who gave a feeling about the gender defect.
04:45They say that we're not just as a good child,
04:49but we have a mental illness like this,
04:52as a way of seeing a specific diagnosis or not.
04:56I can say that I have a mental illness
04:59that's what I use to prevent it from having a lot of people who use it,
05:04and I think this is a special type of spectrum.
05:07This is a special type of spectrum.
05:11This spectrum of spectrum is a little more than usual,
05:16unique and different kinds of things that are in the spectrum of spectrum.
05:23자폐스펙첨장애는 아직까지 너무 불행하게도,
05:27현대의학에서는 완치할 수 있는 치료법이 없습니다.
05:32그러다 보니까,
05:34조기 발견해서 조기개입을 하는 게,
05:37가장 예우를 좋게 해 줄 수 있는 장애에요.
05:42그러다 보니,
05:43상당히 저를 비롯한 많은 전문가들이,
05:46국가과제를 통해서 조기개입하고,
05:49또 조기 발견을 할 수 있는 중재 프로그램이나,
05:53There are a lot of programs that have been developed for a lot of people.
05:58You can tell me that the Minyunki Center has been able to develop a spectrum of children's children?
06:09In fact, the spectrum of children are very different and age-old.
06:17We have a certain environment where we live in a different environment,
06:22and we have a certain thing about the treatment and treatment.
06:27It's a new treatment.
06:31We have a working-on treatment center with an individual's treatment,
06:38and a lot of treatment, and a lot of treatment, and a lot of treatment,
06:42and a lot of treatment are ready for us.
06:46We are also going to be able to do the research,
06:48and to create a new research,
06:50and to do the research.
06:53And the spectrum of the disease is
06:55a person who can help heal the disease.
06:59And we have a mental health,
07:02a person who can help heal the disease.
07:08So we have a lot of research and research.
07:12So we need to have a treatment of the disease.
07:15We will be able to educate our center and support now in the center.
07:19We will be able to educate our Project Center.
07:28But in the 23rd of all, thevis cancer center is a practice center.
07:32So, what does our Door surtout use in Aisle?
07:36It means that we can not really sound sight to the music.
07:43I've been organizing problems with my teacher vocational program as a educational program.
07:47I've been able to use the language and치 skills to apply to my children's program.
07:55So, the program was ability to reduce the quality of my children,
07:59and the ability to become a dangerous tool with a template.
08:04And, music and content were put into terms,
08:07and the way that the language of the brain and the language of the brain can't feel like it.
08:13And the way that the brain can feel that it can't feel like it.
08:17I experienced this.
08:20We also had a work of the research and research in the study of the study.
08:24It's not just a work of the brain.
08:27So these kids will be able to create a program that will be able to create a platform that will create a platform for the center.
08:42So, it's not only music, but not only music, and also music, and other things,
08:48but it can also be a huge change in the field.
08:52So, if you're working with the people who are working on it,
08:54and you can't afford money, and you can afford money,
09:01it can be a huge difference in the amount of money.
09:06So, this program has been a lot of different types of things.
09:11and a good way to improve it.
09:15If you're still there, you will still be able to crush it.
09:19So the training process to improve your procedure.
09:25And it will be better at quantity.
09:28Next, the skills of being able to improve your behavior.
09:31when we use our music technology,
09:34we are creating bands,
09:38and how to establish a new environment and how to create a new environment.
09:43The second is the same as a dual environment and society.
09:46If you can't even go to the stage stage and go to the stage stage to come to the stage,
09:51such as a young person.
09:54I'm also an individual person who has an opportunity to come to the stage stage.
10:02I think that this is the way that we can't really do it.
10:09That's what we can't really do.
10:13We have a treatment for the treatment of the treatment.
10:17But what is the treatment of the treatment of the treatment?
10:20How can we use it?
10:24It's a good question.
10:25I have a question.
10:26I have a question about that.
10:28I have a question about that.
10:30as a captioner, as I have mentioned,
10:32there are no other general studies available on the subject of a drug.
10:37So, the reason why HB is called
10:39ABA, the same as the case of the action and the other,
10:41the other, the other, the other, the other, and the other,
10:43the other, and the other, the other, and the other,
10:44like this, the other, and the other, and the other,
10:44like, this three-way and the other,
10:46like, this is an important thing,
10:48which is now that I can't understand the fact that this is a real thing.
10:49This is the fact that any kind of practice,
10:50that this is the first thing that I've learned from my life,
10:54I just have a few of them to learn from the past,
10:56but I don't know why that's not too much.
10:58The cochrane review of RCT-based research research research research review
11:25This program is created by the way of creating a program.
11:28This program is based on the fact that we have a program,
11:31a program, a program, a training program,
11:35and a training program.
11:36We have a music content.
11:38I think you will have a better understanding of it.
11:41So, why do we call it Mind?
11:45Mind is Music.
11:47I Interaction.
11:50And Network.
11:52D Diversity.
11:53Diversity is diversity, diversity is different.
11:56It's another one's existence, so we can recognize the difference between mind and the fact that we have in mind.
12:02So this is the case of the treatment team who is the one who is the by-tans-sue.
12:10That is the general artist, by-tans-sue.
12:14The two women's meeting, how do you have to be a very curious person.
12:18시도가, Nga,�가의 소아청소년 정신 건강에 관심을 많이 보였다고 해요
12:27시도가,гtech, 작년 11월에 저를 찾아와서 음악재능기부에 대한 의사를 밝히셨었습니다
12:35먼저 찾아왔습니까?
12:37세브란스병원은 발달장애인 거점 병원 행동발달증신센터도 운영하고 있고
12:42또 하나의 계기는, 아마 제가 작년 또 가을에 자폐 스펙트럼 장애 교과서를 제가 출판을 한 적도 있고
12:48and the development of the spectrum of the spectrum, and the brain of the spectrum, and the mental health and the brain of the brain,
12:52and the brain of the brain, the brain of the brain, and the brain of the brain.
13:00I didn't really forget that I had a chance to forget about the first time.
13:04I had a book that had written about the book, and it was a bit more than 500 pages.
13:09It was a bit too thick.
13:12But you can read the book and read the book.
13:17So, the question is that I'm going to ask you very much, and I'm really surprised.
13:26Actually, we met the first time, Suga is a member of his work.
13:34How can we create a good position and how we can create a good position and how we can create a good position in order to be able to create a good position, and I have a lot of concern.
13:46So, it's been a good time for a new program to be able to create a new program.
13:52So, the mind program has been coming out of the world, and I think it's been a good time for the future.
13:59and the schedule and the schedule of the process of the process to take a look at the end of the process.
14:07That's why it's a very simple kind of a provider, and I felt that I didn't think that I thought that I was a single member of the program.
14:13I found that I have a place to talk about some of the people I did before,
14:18and I saw that I had a meeting with the patients who had a meeting for the first time,
14:23because I was like, you know, it's a good night, and I'm going to talk about a meeting with the patients.
14:28I was very excited to see that I had a lot of experience with the kids' eyes.
14:33I think I was thinking about the body's eyes,
14:35the body's eyes, the body's eyes.
14:39I'm really happy when I can't believe it.
14:42So I was really proud to see this treatment of the kids' eyes.
14:49I was very happy, so I'm feeling a lot of good luck.
14:53So we bring the fun.
15:23슈가 씨의 기취탐? 그런 정도 알고 있었어요.
15:29슈가 씨 처음 만났을 때부터 그 얘기를 하더라고요.
15:33교수님, 근데 우리나라 청소년 사망 원인 1위가 자살이라면서요.
15:43자기가 정말 외면할 수 없다는 그런 생각을 늘 갖고 있었다라는 이야기를 하시더라고요.
15:48슈가 씨의 곡 중에도 아미그달라라고 뇌의 되게 조그만 아몬드 모양의 편도체라는 영역이 있거든요.
15:55그거의 영어 이름이 아미그달라예요.
15:57정말로 뇌에 대해서 관심이 기본적으로 많고
16:00어떤 정신건강, 생각과 마음과 정서, 감정이 뇌에서 어떻게 작동하고 있는지에 대해서
16:08기본적으로 인식이 굉장히 있으신 그런 분이셨고
16:13그리고 또 하나는 지인 중에 발달장애의 지인을 접하고
16:20사회적인 관심과 또 어떤 지원이 굉장히 정말 필요하구나라는 생각을 했었다고 해요.
16:27자, 그렇게 해서 만들어진 것이 이제 마인드 프로그램인 거잖아요.
16:31그런데 실은 슈가 씨가 이제 세계적인 아티스트이기도 하고
16:35또 사회복무요원 복무중이었어요.
16:40개인적인 시간이 아무래도 좀 제한이 있었을 텐데
16:42어떻게 이렇게 직접 참여를 할 수 있었을까요?
16:45프로그램이 본격적으로 시작되면서부터는 주말을 이용해서
16:49한 번도 빠지지 않고 지각도 안 하고 열심히 참여를 해주셨습니다.
16:53아, 그렇군요.
16:55이 마인드 프로그램이라는 것이 단순히 음악활동을 넘어서
16:59아이들의 정서 또 사회성을 키워주는 그런 정교한 시스템이다라는 생각이 들게 되는데요.
17:05그러면 슈가 씨가 구체적으로 어떤 방식을 통해서
17:07아이들과 교감을 했는지 그 부분도 좀 궁금합니다.
17:10네, 저희가 총 10번에 걸쳐서 프로그램을 진행을 했는데
17:1310번을 거의 90분간 진행을 했어요.
17:17정말 인상적이었던 그런 세션이 있었는데
17:19자전거 탄 풍경의 너에게 난 나에게 넌이라는 노래 아시죠?
17:23따라라라라라라라라라
17:24아이고 노래까지도
17:25아, 알아서 저희가 통해서
17:27정말 아주 유명하고 남녀노소가 다 아는 가요잖아요.
17:34이제 그거를 부른 적이 있었는데
17:37아이가 저 이 노래 알아요. 그런 거예요.
17:40슈가 씨가 너는 어떻게 이 노래를 알아?
17:42그랬더니 그 아이가
17:43저 아빠랑 캠핑 갈 때 맨날 들어요. 라고 한 거예요.
17:46그러면서 저 이 노래 너무 잘 알아요. 그러면서 그냥 막 아주 큰, 그냥 목청껏 큰 소리로 부른 적이 있었습니다.
17:54그래서 정말 모든 우리 함께 했던 치료사들이 행복하게 웃었던 기억이 나고요.
18:01그게 바로 음악의 힘인 것 같아요. 세대를 뛰어넘는 공감.
18:04그러니까요. 바로 그거예요. 모든 사람이 다 행복해지고 언어가 필요 없게 되는 거죠.
18:08그러네요.
18:08전 세계 이들의 언어 장벽을 허무는 게 음악 아니겠습니까? 빛이 돼 있는 악기들이 있었는데 네가 악기를 원하는 걸 선택해 봐라.
18:17그랬더니 핸드벨을 선택한 애도 있었고 실로폰을 선택한 애도 있었고 또 북을 선택한 애도 있었고 또 전자 드럼을 선택한 아이도 있었고 또 본인이 좋아하는 자기가 원래 할 줄 아는 악기 클라리넷이나 섹스폰 같은 걸 갖고 온 아이도 있었고 다양한 악기를 선택해서 합주를 했었습니다.
18:35그럴 때 우리 슈가씨께서 먼저 네가 시작해. 그럼 내가 맞출게. 자기가 그 호흡을 맞춘 거죠.
18:43따라가 준 거군요. 맞춰준 거예요.
18:45그리고 어떤 상대방한테 편지를 소개하는 그런 세션이 있었어요. 언어 속도에 맞춰서 자기가 은은하게 잔잔하게 기타 배경을 깔아주기도 하고
18:56리듬도 속도에 맞춰서 빨라졌다가 천천히 했다가 하면서 아이들이 그런 말과 그런 음악이 함께 어우러지는 그런 경험을 하게 된 것이죠.
19:08그런데 참 흥미롭게도 저희가 부모님들께는 슈가씨가 참여하고 있다는 걸 보조치료자로 또 이런 자원봉사자로 참여하고 있다는 걸 알렸지만
19:19우리 아이들은 지금 음악 선생님이 슈가씨라는 걸 전혀 모른 채 그렇게 참여를 했거든요.
19:27음악 선생님인 줄을 기타 치는 그 선생님인 줄을 전혀 모른 채 끝까지 참여를 했다는 것을 꼭 말씀드리고 싶습니다.
19:35사실 이런 센터는 자금의 뒷받침 없이는 힘들다는 건 아마 누구나 아실 것 같습니다.
19:42그런데 슈가씨의 기부가 아주 큰 역할을 했다고 들었습니다.
19:47슈가씨께서 평소에 청소년 정신건강에 관심을 워낙 갖고 있었다 보니까
19:55또 소아 청소년 아이들을 위한 이런 체계적인 치료 시스템, 플랫폼, 하드웨어가 굉장히 중요하다는 것을
20:04저하고 계속 소통을 하면서 더 느끼게 되신 것 같아요.
20:07그래서 전격적으로 그런 전용 공간을 만들고 싶다라는 그런 마음을 점점 더 그런 마음이 차오르게 되셨고
20:16그래서 아주 크게 50억 원이라는 그런 재정적 후원을 해주시게 됐습니다.
20:24저 금액을 여기서 처음 듣는데 놀랍네요.
20:28앞으로 이 센터는 어떤 방향으로 나아갈 계획인가요?
20:33음악이라는 그런 매개를 통해서 자폐, 스펙트럼 장애 아이들이 세상과 연결이 될 수 있다, 되는 경험을 저희가 직접 확인을 했기 때문에
20:43이러한 접근 방식에 대한 제 편견과 의구심이 어떻게 보면 전환되는 그런 계기가 됐습니다.
