- 23/06/2025
Mrs Megwyn Spiteri was to face the charge of murdering her 5-year-old twins, but before the trial, her counsel claimed she was unfit to plead. Accordingly, a jury was empanelled to decide whether she is mentally incapable of appreciating all the allegations against her. Watch out for Ben Aris (of Hi-de-Hi fame) and film actor George Coulouris.
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00:00:00At midnight, on June the 30th last year, the rites of exorcism were pronounced over the
00:00:27five-year-old Spiteri twins as they slept in their nursery. Six weeks later, their father,
00:00:32Mr. Joseph Spiteri, was woken by his wife, Megwin. She was highly excited and shouting that she had
00:00:38saved the children. Mr. Spiteri found the twins huddled together in a state of deep coma.
00:00:44Despite emergency treatment, neither child recovered. And today, the mother stands trial
00:00:49in Fullchester Crown Court, charged with their murder. All stand.
00:00:57Please stand.
00:01:09You are Megwin Glynnis Spiteri of 15 Willow Park, Fullchester?
00:01:14Yes.
00:01:16Yes?
00:01:17My lord, before the jury is called, I...
00:01:19Yes, Mr. Cuma. You wish to make a special application?
00:01:22Yes, my lord.
00:01:24It is that Mrs. Spiteri is unfit to plead to the charge.
00:01:27In that she is incapable of understanding certain features of it.
00:01:30You wish this to be tried by jury as a preliminary to the main issue of murder?
00:01:34Yes, sir.
00:01:34Yes, very well. Please impanel the jury.
00:01:40And Mrs. Spiteri has been under your close psychiatric care, well, ever since her arrest,
00:01:45Dr. Morton?
00:01:46In the prison hospital, yes.
00:01:47Why was that?
00:01:48Initially, she was in a state of mutism due to severe shock.
00:01:51Mutism? You mean she couldn't speak?
00:01:54Couldn't speak, couldn't remember anything. Complete mental withdrawal.
00:01:59Your treatment?
00:02:01Initially, I put her on antidepressant drugs and later reinforced this with ECT, electroconvulsive therapy.
00:02:07Was this successful?
00:02:09Very gradually, yes. I was able to start clearing the blockage.
00:02:13She had a retrospective amnesia.
00:02:14Yes, but I mean, you were able to help her overcome this, Doctor.
00:02:17To some extent, yes.
00:02:19She now has substantial recall of her past life and marriage,
00:02:23all the problems relating to her twin children.
00:02:26But not of their actual deaths, eh?
00:02:29It's all right, Megwin.
00:02:30What?
00:02:30No, my lord, not their deaths.
00:02:32Not even after, what is it now, nearly eight months?
00:02:36It's an ego-defence mechanism, sir.
00:02:38By repressing the truth, she's warding off a severe depression.
00:02:42And your specific diagnosis?
00:02:44She's suffering from a depressive psychosis.
00:02:47A condition characterized not only by intense depressions, but also by delusions.
00:02:52About what?
00:02:53Usually sin.
00:02:54A morbid preoccupation with evil.
00:02:56A strong sense of contamination.
00:02:58Yes.
00:02:59So, if she were now allowed to plead to the charge, Doctor Morton...
00:03:03Then she might well say she was guilty of murder.
00:03:05Oh, she might.
00:03:06But only because her sickness gives her this prevailing sense of wickedness.
00:03:10Yes, but such a sense can spring also from genuine guilt.
00:03:14Yes, my lord, it can.
00:03:14Oh, it doesn't have to be imagined, Elusive.
00:03:16No, but in my professional view, she's still disturbed to the point of delusions.
00:03:21Yes, and a view formed over a longish period, Doctor.
00:03:23During some 20 therapeutic sessions with my patient.
00:03:26And until she's cured, you think it will be impossible for a jury to reach a just verdict?
00:03:31My concern, my lord, is less with justice...
00:03:33What?
00:03:33...than with my patient's immediate safety.
00:03:35My lord, perhaps if I may explain.
00:03:37Oh, he seems fully capable of doing that himself, Mr. Gilmar.
00:03:41Yes, Doctor?
00:03:42In my opinion, my lord, it is premature for this woman to be taking part in any trial.
00:03:48Oh, really?
00:03:50Oh, you mean even this trial on the issue of whether she's not...
00:03:53whether or not she's fit to plead?
00:03:55Yes, she's warding off full acceptance of reality.
00:03:58Well, so you tell us.
00:04:00If the process of this trial should force that on her, then...
00:04:02Well, it could severely exacerbate the depressive psychosis, severely.
00:04:06Ultimately, with further clinical treatment, I hope she'll make a full adjustment on her own.
00:04:10My lord, I understood this was to be a trial of a preliminary issue.
00:04:13The doctor appears to be asking for all proceedings to be adjourned.
00:04:17I would like to point out, my lord, that I can call evidence to prove that the accused is fit for any trial.
00:04:23Well, you see the dilemma, Doctor.
00:04:25I mean, here I have the prosecution's medical report saying that she's fit to be tried for murder.
00:04:33I have Mr. Gilmar here claiming that she's unfit to plead.
00:04:38Now I have you here telling me she shouldn't be tried at all.
00:04:43Well, now would this be a fair compromise, eh?
00:04:48I allow this hearing to continue, but only in your presence and under your expert eye, eh?
00:04:58Very well, my lord.
00:05:00Are you able to be available for the duration of the hearing?
00:05:05Naturally, I've already arranged that, my lord.
00:05:06Yes, yes, Mr. Martin.
00:05:09No further questions, my lord?
00:05:11No.
00:05:11Yes, Mr. Martin.
00:05:12With your lordship's permission, I would like to withhold the right to cross-examine Dr. Morton until after we've heard from the accused.
00:05:20Well, he will, after all, be remaining in court.
00:05:22Looking for a quid pro quo?
00:05:25Since this issue of her adjustment to reality appears to be...
00:05:29Yes, yes, well, Mr. Gilmar, that seems reasonable.
00:05:31Very well, my lord.
00:05:35Thank you, doctor.
00:05:35You can return to your seat.
00:05:37Uh, Mrs. Pateri, if you'd kindly go into the witness box, it's over there.
00:05:45That's it.
00:05:54You heard his lordship.
00:05:55I shall be just down here.
00:06:03What is your religion?
00:06:05Baptist.
00:06:05Take the Bible in your right hand and read aloud the words on this card.
00:06:10I swear by almighty God that the evidence I shall give shall be...
00:06:13Now, Megwin, do you understand what's going on?
00:06:18What?
00:06:20Well, these people are here to try and decide how much you understand about the fate of your children.
00:06:26Now, to help them do that, I want you to tell us as clearly as you can the circumstances leading to the...
00:06:31well, the nervous illness which resulted in your going to hospital.
00:06:35Now, you've heard Dr. Morton describe how you're suffering from delusions.
00:06:39Oh, my lord, really, Mr. Gilmar.
00:06:42The accused may still be under medical treatment, but there is no justification for leading.
00:06:48The lord.
00:06:48When were your children born?
00:06:53On November 4th, 1969.
00:06:56Davy was first by the hour.
00:06:58Before Maria.
00:06:59Yes, always the slower.
00:07:01Well, the girl after all.
00:07:03David and Maria.
00:07:04Yes, one Maltese name, you see.
00:07:06Please speak up, Megwin.
00:07:08Nice and clear.
00:07:09Oh, yes.
00:07:11Where were you living, then?
00:07:13Still in the high flats, then, weren't we?
00:07:15In the Tower Flat Council Estate in West 4th.
00:07:17Yes, dreadful place it was like.
00:07:20Dreadful for children.
00:07:21Up so tall and all that vandalism and that.
00:07:25And no way out.
00:07:26Most unsuitable.
00:07:27Not that my children were difficult then, mind.
00:07:31Not until they came, you see.
00:07:34Before that, mind you, my babies were real lovely.
00:07:38Hmm.
00:07:40I mean, in fact, after about a year or so, you moved from the Tower Flat.
00:07:44Yes.
00:07:45Joe, Mr. Spiteri, he could see how a family couldn't live right in a place like that.
00:07:51So he found the place in Willow Park.
00:07:54You rented a little terraced house.
00:07:56Oh, yes.
00:07:57Perfect, it seemed at first.
00:07:59Bedrooms and bath upstairs.
00:08:03Modernised kitchen.
00:08:04More than we could afford, of course.
00:08:07But then, um...
00:08:08The twins at this stage, Megwin, still all right.
00:08:11Well, what else?
00:08:12Oh, sorry?
00:08:13Well, it was that place, wasn't it?
00:08:14Willow Park.
00:08:15That's where they were.
00:08:17Waiting.
00:08:18They?
00:08:19Waiting, you see.
00:08:20Waiting for innocence.
00:08:23Waiting for the right flesh to occupy.
00:08:25And we, me and Joey, we brought them there.
00:08:30We brought them like, like, like a sacrifice to Satan.
00:08:35Doctor, if that isn't her, cover-up.
00:08:55When did it start?
00:08:57What?
00:08:57With the voices, you mean?
00:08:58No, no, I mean, were there not symptoms before that?
00:09:02Signs.
00:09:04Look, you've told us that the twins did well up to the age of about three.
00:09:08You'd got them toilet trained early.
00:09:10They were both walking well before then.
00:09:13Both speaking well?
00:09:14Oh, no wonder.
00:09:15Proper pair of little mimics they were.
00:09:18Davey in particular.
00:09:19And playing quite normal.
00:09:20Not guns.
00:09:21I don't allow guns.
00:09:22No, but generally well advanced for their age.
00:09:24Yes, up to three.
00:09:26Three and a half, yes.
00:09:28Well, they used to help each other, see.
00:09:31Well, twins.
00:09:32A closeness.
00:09:33If one cried, the other cried.
00:09:35If Maria laughed, Davey laughed.
00:09:37If he had a bad night, she did too.
00:09:40A closeness, see.
00:09:42As if they shared something of their own.
00:09:45Shared secrets?
00:09:46Well, not...
00:09:47See, they used to cuddle, didn't they?
00:09:49Often.
00:09:50Never me or their da.
00:09:52No, never us.
00:09:53Just each other, but that's twins, you see.
00:09:57And then?
00:09:58About the age of three and a half.
00:10:01Well, it all started to go wrong.
00:10:03How?
00:10:05Well, sleeping bad, it was at first.
00:10:08Forever waking up and crying out.
00:10:11Fretful.
00:10:13Oh, if only I'd known then what it was.
00:10:15And what else?
00:10:17Well, moods.
00:10:18Well, only natural, wasn't it?
00:10:20Worn out they were, you see.
00:10:21So what else but grumpy all day?
00:10:25Except that it got worse.
00:10:27When they were listless one minute and in a proper tantrum the next.
00:10:31Tantrum?
00:10:32Yes, when they'd scream and shout and tear at each other and break everything in sight.
00:10:37Oh, it was shocking.
00:10:39What did you do?
00:10:41Well, there's not much I could do.
00:10:43Smacking made no difference.
00:10:45Worse, if anything.
00:10:46The best thing was the box.
00:10:50Box?
00:10:51The television, sir.
00:10:52Oh, yes.
00:10:53Oh, I hated it, mind.
00:10:55I always used to limit it before.
00:10:57Always.
00:10:57But, you see, when they got so difficult all day, it got so it was the only thing, you see.
00:11:07What about nursery school?
00:11:09Didn't they attend one?
00:11:10Well, not as there was one handy mind, but you couldn't have sent them not like that, you see.
00:11:16Oh, really?
00:11:16But, mind you, I was looking for something then.
00:11:21Something definite, if you get me.
00:11:23No.
00:11:24Like, say, pollution.
00:11:25Yes.
00:11:26Well, when you come from a hill farming family like me, all those dirty fumes in the towns.
00:11:33Noise.
00:11:34That's lorries, you know.
00:11:36I had, Joe, double glazed all the windows facing the high street.
00:11:40Yes, and I had the counselling to test for lead in the mains water.
00:11:44Lead or anything.
00:11:46Oh, very sensible.
00:11:47Well, that's what the health visitor said.
00:11:50And I took them to the kiddies' clinic to get a blood test.
00:11:54But when they had it, it was negative.
00:11:59Plenty of iron, but no lead.
00:12:01So what did you do then?
00:12:04Well, then I took them to Dr. Forbes, didn't I?
00:12:07Your local GP.
00:12:09Yes, that's him.
00:12:10Of course, he said I was fussing, imagining things.
00:12:14Oh, yes.
00:12:15Reading too many books, Dr. Spock and that.
00:12:17Must have been difficult.
00:12:20Well, when I took them back a month later, he gave them these pills, these tranquilizers.
00:12:26Did they help?
00:12:27Well, they did a bit with the tantrums, but not with the sleeping, and more listless than ever in the day.
00:12:35Not wanting to feed themselves.
00:12:39Never talking.
00:12:41Well, it was like having a couple of little strangers in the house.
00:12:46So, what then?
00:12:50Well, then, the health visitor, she could see that it was as bad as ever.
00:12:56She, it was, advised me to get them to a child specialist.
00:13:00Autistic, she thought they were.
00:13:02But when I told Dr. Forbes, he got very angry-like.
00:13:06So, the upshot of it was, I took them to see Dr. Grover, the senior partner.
00:13:12And he agreed?
00:13:14At the last, yes.
00:13:16He sent us to some clinic near Manchester.
00:13:19A child guidance clinic.
00:13:20That's it, yes.
00:13:22What age were their twins by then?
00:13:27Some months after their fourth birthday.
00:13:29So, you mean, it was going on for a year before you even managed to take them to a specialist?
00:13:34Now, what did this clinic say?
00:13:39Well, the child psychiatrist, now, he thought that they might be autistic because of them being withdrawn.
00:13:47But the child psychologist there, now, he disagreed with this.
00:13:50He wouldn't have it at any price.
00:13:52So, then?
00:13:54Well, then, they wanted me to go to London to have some special tests at a London hospital, you see.
00:14:00Oh, terrible journey it was.
00:14:04All that way on a train.
00:14:07And Divya and Maria getting worse by the minute.
00:14:09Yes, but these tests.
00:14:12But they were very nice there.
00:14:14Very kind and very patient.
00:14:16But, oh, there were so many of them.
00:14:19I don't know, neurologist, intelligence.
00:14:22Well, when I got home that night.
00:14:27But, you see, now, that was something odd, wasn't it?
00:14:31You would have thought they would have been tired and worn out like their poor man.
00:14:35But, no.
00:14:36Oh, that was the very night I first heard them at it.
00:14:40At what?
00:14:41Talking.
00:14:42Instead of going to sleep.
00:14:44Oh, no, they were asleep.
00:14:45But they were talking.
00:14:47Sleep talking?
00:14:49Well, yes, that's what I'd thought at first, you see.
00:14:52But it wasn't that.
00:14:54You see, if...
00:14:54If we might return to this in a moment.
00:14:57Oh.
00:14:58Well, whatever you say so, Mr. Kimmel.
00:15:00Now, what about these tests?
00:15:06Well, we...
00:15:07We ended up with Dr. Beale, didn't we?
00:15:12Dr. Hopkins Beale, a child psychiatrist.
00:15:14Yes, that's him over there.
00:15:16More waiting and another journey to Chester every time we got to see him.
00:15:21And what did this Dr. Beale come up with?
00:15:25Well, nothing for a while.
00:15:26Um, and then after the fourth or fifth visit, I can't remember.
00:15:32Yes?
00:15:34He...
00:15:35He said for me to send them away.
00:15:37Send them where?
00:15:39To a special place.
00:15:42A hospital for the mentally subnormal.
00:15:45I mean, subnormal.
00:15:47My babies shut away.
00:15:52Street jackets, like as not!
00:15:54Megwin. Megwin, gently.
00:15:55So they didn't go?
00:16:00No.
00:16:00No, you went against the advice of Dr. Hopkins.
00:16:04Hopkins Beale.
00:16:05Yes, yes.
00:16:06Well?
00:16:08Well, do you have children, sir?
00:16:11If you could imagine a mother's feelings.
00:16:14Well, you must have been very concerned for them, almost at your wit's end.
00:16:18Yes, I was.
00:16:18I was on tranquilizers myself by then.
00:16:21Well, then, surely the best course would have been to have followed the doctor's advice.
00:16:27Yes, yes, but years it might have been.
00:16:29Years in an institution.
00:16:32My babies.
00:16:35My...
00:16:36My whole life just snatched away.
00:16:42Yes, Mrs. Spiteria?
00:16:43Yes, yes.
00:16:44Well, anyway, you see.
00:16:46I was in...
00:16:49I was into wondering by then.
00:16:51Wondering what?
00:16:53Well, as if we weren't all chasing the wrong hair, if you get me.
00:16:58No?
00:17:00Well, contamination, that's what I thought it was.
00:17:02But it wasn't through fumes, or lead, or noise.
00:17:06Yes, and no more was it this autism, or dyslexia, or any of the other things that the doctors had thought.
00:17:12And then there was the talking.
00:17:15Oh, yes, yes, the sleep talking.
00:17:18All right, Mr. Kumar?
00:17:20Yeah, you tell us about that.
00:17:21Yes.
00:17:22Well, restlessness, I thought at first.
00:17:24I tried to wake them up so as to stop it.
00:17:28But they were so deep, you couldn't stir them, see, not ever.
00:17:32And then this one night, I started to listen.
00:17:37Listen proper.
00:17:39And then I saw how...
00:17:41Yes?
00:17:42Well, how it was, you see.
00:17:44They...
00:17:45They were talking to each other.
00:17:48In their sleep?
00:17:50In their sleep.
00:17:51Talking to each other.
00:17:53They were having a conversation.
00:17:56Oh, so you thought.
00:17:57Oh, no, it was a conversation.
00:17:59They were having a conversation, yes.
00:18:01Well, your husband, I mean, what did he have to say about all this?
00:18:05Well, me and Joe, we weren't so easy together then, not with all the worry and expense and that,
00:18:10and him with his job problems, Maltese, you see, and it doesn't help to be a foreigner,
00:18:15not when there are these layoffs and that about.
00:18:17Yes, yes, yes.
00:18:17So what you're saying is that you didn't tell your husband about this sleep talking, is there?
00:18:22I did try and tell him, I did try and tell him, but you see, he wouldn't accept.
00:18:25He'd never have as...
00:18:28Davy and Maria were as bad as I said.
00:18:30He thought it was my fault, didn't he?
00:18:34Well, that's how...
00:18:35That's how he called in the father.
00:18:38Who?
00:18:39Father Attard.
00:18:41Of the Maltese Community Association in London, my lord.
00:18:44Oh, yeah.
00:18:44He came?
00:18:46Yes, up from London.
00:18:48Um, he saw the twins and then he stayed on through the evening so he could hear them.
00:18:52We're here, they're sleep talking.
00:18:55Yes, that's right.
00:18:56Shall we be hearing from this man?
00:18:57Oh, yes.
00:18:58Oh, good, good.
00:18:59What did he have to say about it?
00:19:00Nothing, not to me.
00:19:01Oh?
00:19:02Only speaks to Joe and then in Maltese.
00:19:05Yes, but I mean, uh, your husband, didn't...
00:19:07didn't he tell you what this man had said afterwards?
00:19:10Not at first.
00:19:12Embarrassed, he was.
00:19:14A couple of weeks before he said, and, uh,
00:19:17then only because the father had been on to him and all.
00:19:19So?
00:19:19Well, Father Attard, he'd, he'd felt it.
00:19:26He, he saw how they were possessed with devils.
00:19:31See, I, I wouldn't have it at first.
00:19:35How outraged I was.
00:19:36I mean, the thought in my babies.
00:19:40But then, here was Father Attard talking about exorcism.
00:19:43Oh, exorcism.
00:19:44Mind you, Joe kept saying as he could do no harm and then Father Attard was their godfather.
00:19:49Yes, so you agreed to this exorcism.
00:19:51Oh, yes, I did.
00:19:52But, mind you, I only did because of the talking, you see.
00:19:56And, and, here in them,
00:19:59or night after night, I,
00:20:00I was so desperate.
00:20:03Anyway, he came with his robes and his candles, muttering Latin all over them.
00:20:15Well, Davey started shouting, Maria too, screaming the both of them.
00:20:19Well, I, I, I, Joe tried to get me out.
00:20:23Well, anyway, it, it failed and Father Attard was very angry and went away.
00:20:35And, after that, I suppose they knew they'd won because it got worse.
00:20:45Chattering and blaspheming all night, little devils.
00:20:50And talking about the most awful things,
00:20:53things no child of five could have heard of, you see.
00:20:55And, in the day, my babies,
00:21:02just sitting there,
00:21:03just sucking their thumbs,
00:21:05just watch, watching the box like a couple of little zombies.
00:21:10Never feeding themselves.
00:21:12No, I had to spoon their food into them
00:21:16and messing themselves without a word.
00:21:19Just empty,
00:21:21blank, useless.
00:21:23So, then I knew, you see,
00:21:25I knew he was right.
00:21:26I knew they were possessed.
00:21:29And, every night, these
00:21:30two foreign spirits
00:21:32coming into my babies,
00:21:35coming in, inhabiting their flesh,
00:21:38taunting them,
00:21:39talking through their tongues, you see,
00:21:40swearing and laughing
00:21:42and getting life from them.
00:21:44Of course, it was that place,
00:21:46that house.
00:21:47Yes, what else?
00:21:48But that they had been dwelling there, waiting, you see.
00:21:51Well, I told Joe.
00:21:53I told him, but he wouldn't have it.
00:21:55Oh, no, he wouldn't have it.
00:21:57I said to him,
00:21:58we've got to leave this place, I said.
00:22:00But he said, I was crazy.
00:22:04So, then?
00:22:08Well, then, I,
00:22:09I had this idea, see.
00:22:12They were coming at night, weren't they?
00:22:14Coming in,
00:22:17into my babies.
00:22:19So, I just thought, if I could
00:22:20keep them out,
00:22:23yes, keep them away,
00:22:24banish them,
00:22:25bar them from the flesh.
00:22:27You see, they were getting life from them.
00:22:29But at nights,
00:22:31only nights.
00:22:33So,
00:22:34if I could
00:22:35just keep them out,
00:22:37by keeping Davy
00:22:40and Maria awake.
00:22:43I was right,
00:22:44Doctor, wasn't I?
00:22:45You said I was right.
00:22:46It was what you believed.
00:22:47It did.
00:22:49So, what did you do?
00:22:53Well, just that.
00:22:56I got Joe off to sleep,
00:22:58nice and early,
00:22:58so he wouldn't interfere.
00:23:00And then I kept them awake.
00:23:02How, Megwin?
00:23:03Well, talking it was at first.
00:23:08And then,
00:23:09playing little games.
00:23:11That's right.
00:23:12And then when they got over drowsy,
00:23:14I gave them these pep pills.
00:23:15Yellow dexes from the clinic
00:23:17to stop them bed wetting.
00:23:19Well, it went fine at first.
00:23:22Except they,
00:23:22they did cry a lot.
00:23:24And then,
00:23:25more pills.
00:23:27And,
00:23:27more talking.
00:23:30And,
00:23:30oh, shaking.
00:23:31That's right.
00:23:32Shaking, you see.
00:23:33And pills.
00:23:34All,
00:23:34all,
00:23:36all through the night.
00:23:37Like the hymn, you see.
00:23:39That's what I was singing them.
00:23:41Hymns, you see.
00:23:42All through the night.
00:23:43Like we used to sing in chapel, you see.
00:23:46They, they, they, they,
00:23:47they couldn't go to sleep.
00:23:50No, they couldn't go to sleep.
00:23:51That's enough now.
00:23:52Because I,
00:23:53I, I, I,
00:23:54I just had to keep them out.
00:23:56Now, if I could keep them out, you see,
00:23:58it would be all right, you see.
00:23:59If only I could keep them out.
00:24:01Yes, doctor, but,
00:24:02look,
00:24:02if I could just,
00:24:04keep, keep, keep.
00:24:18The case of the Queen against Spiteri
00:24:20will be resumed tomorrow
00:24:21in the Crown Court.
00:24:23At the start of Mrs. Megwin's
00:24:53Spiteri's trial,
00:24:54her counsel claimed she was unfit
00:24:56to plead to the charge
00:24:57of poisoning her five-year-old twins.
00:24:59Accordingly, a jury was impanelled
00:25:01to hear evidence and decide
00:25:02whether she is mentally capable
00:25:04of understanding
00:25:04the allegations against her.
00:25:07Yesterday, a doctor said
00:25:08that due to a depressive psychosis,
00:25:10the mother has delusions
00:25:11about the true fate of her twins
00:25:12and, in fact,
00:25:13believes they are still alive.
00:25:15Mrs. Spiteri then described
00:25:16how they developed
00:25:17a strange illness
00:25:18where they were like zombies
00:25:20all day
00:25:20and spent their nights
00:25:21sleep-talking to each other.
00:25:23Their godfather,
00:25:24a Maltese priest,
00:25:25told her they were possessed
00:25:26of devils.
00:25:28It was after he'd tried
00:25:29spiritual exorcism,
00:25:30she said,
00:25:30that she resulted
00:25:31to her own means
00:25:32of purging the alien spirits.
00:25:34So, Megwin,
00:25:38you've told us how you,
00:25:41well, how you kept
00:25:41your twins awake
00:25:42with these pebbles and so on.
00:25:44Yes, just until dawn,
00:25:45when it was safe.
00:25:47Safe?
00:25:48To leave them.
00:25:50I went off
00:25:51and made a nice cup of tea,
00:25:52I did.
00:25:54And then when I came back,
00:25:56they were off
00:25:56into this lovely sleep,
00:25:59quiet and deep
00:26:00and troubled,
00:26:01and no more
00:26:02of this talking and that.
00:26:03So then I woke Joe up
00:26:06and told him.
00:26:08And then?
00:26:10Worn out I was.
00:26:12What were the effort
00:26:13of it all, you see?
00:26:15Well, I told Joe
00:26:16to watch them
00:26:17so I could get some rest.
00:26:20But he said,
00:26:22no, they were ill.
00:26:25Started shouting at me,
00:26:27shaking me.
00:26:28Well, this tiredness,
00:26:30you see,
00:26:31dropping I was.
00:26:32Well, then...
00:26:34Yes?
00:26:35What then?
00:26:39I don't...
00:26:40I suppose that's when
00:26:42I got ill.
00:26:43Is it, Doctor?
00:26:45I just don't remember.
00:26:47Just a hospital and...
00:26:50What about David and Maria?
00:26:52What about them?
00:26:54Oh, I wanted to see them.
00:26:56Asking I was.
00:26:58Yes?
00:27:00Yes.
00:27:01But he's got them off
00:27:02in Malta,
00:27:03like as not.
00:27:04He used to say he would,
00:27:06said I couldn't cope,
00:27:07said I wasn't
00:27:08a natural mother.
00:27:09He'd said that
00:27:10from right back.
00:27:12Oh, he said in Malta,
00:27:13they knew what
00:27:14a proper family should be.
00:27:15So you thought
00:27:16your husband
00:27:17had taken them overseas?
00:27:18Yes,
00:27:19like as not he has.
00:27:20Yes, but surely...
00:27:21That's right.
00:27:22That's right.
00:27:23No further questions,
00:27:24my lord.
00:27:26That's right.
00:27:29But they aren't
00:27:30in Malta,
00:27:31are they,
00:27:32Mrs. Pateri?
00:27:34What?
00:27:36David and Maria,
00:27:37they are not in Malta.
00:27:39They're dead.
00:27:40No.
00:27:40They're both dead,
00:27:43poisoned by the
00:27:44dexedrine tablets
00:27:44you've given them.
00:27:45No.
00:27:47Yes.
00:27:48Here.
00:27:50They're death certificates.
00:27:52Usher,
00:27:53show these to the witness.
00:27:57No.
00:27:58No what?
00:28:00A mistake.
00:28:01No mistake.
00:28:02Dead and buried,
00:28:04Mrs. Pateri.
00:28:05It's not them,
00:28:06not my babies.
00:28:09Madam,
00:28:09if you condescend
00:28:10and look at these documents,
00:28:10you'll see most clearly
00:28:11that it is them.
00:28:13David John Joseph Pateri,
00:28:15Maria Gwyneth Pateri,
00:28:17cause of death,
00:28:18poisoning.
00:28:18My lord,
00:28:19my client's mental state,
00:28:20reality.
00:28:22If no one has as yet
00:28:23seen fit to confront
00:28:23the accused
00:28:24with that reality,
00:28:25I think it's time
00:28:25someone did.
00:28:27They are both dead,
00:28:29Mrs. Pateri,
00:28:30as you very well know.
00:28:32A mistake.
00:28:34I was saving my babies.
00:28:36If anything died,
00:28:38it was them.
00:28:39Them?
00:28:40Oh,
00:28:41oh,
00:28:41you mean the two evil
00:28:42spirits of yours,
00:28:43the possessors.
00:28:44Yes,
00:28:45evil,
00:28:45wicked,
00:28:45up to the tricks they were.
00:28:47Oh,
00:28:47it's all right,
00:28:48doctor,
00:28:48your patient's
00:28:49repressions
00:28:50clearly stand intact.
00:28:53Well,
00:28:53so she would have us believe.
00:28:56Wouldn't you,
00:28:57Mrs. Pateri?
00:28:58I don't understand.
00:29:00No?
00:29:02Well,
00:29:02now,
00:29:02I'm going to put it to you
00:29:03that you do understand,
00:29:05that you understand very well,
00:29:07and that you've been putting on
00:29:08this elaborate act for us
00:29:10to win you sympathy.
00:29:13To win you sympathy
00:29:13and confirm
00:29:14your alleged illness.
00:29:15No,
00:29:16I've only told you the truth.
00:29:18Oh,
00:29:18but with one or two
00:29:19ingenious embellishments,
00:29:20yes?
00:29:21No,
00:29:21no.
00:29:22Like all this pretense
00:29:22that they aren't really dead,
00:29:24like contriving all this nonsense
00:29:26of ghosties and ghoulies
00:29:27and possession by evil spirits,
00:29:29yes?
00:29:29It's true.
00:29:30They were.
00:29:32Were?
00:29:33You mean while they were still alive?
00:29:35No,
00:29:35I mean,
00:29:35looked like I told you
00:29:38before I kept them out,
00:29:40see?
00:29:41Them?
00:29:41Oh,
00:29:42the possessors?
00:29:43Yes.
00:29:43That's right.
00:29:44Yes.
00:29:44Yes.
00:29:45Why didn't you tell your husband?
00:29:49Why didn't you tell your husband
00:29:51you believe they were possessed?
00:29:53I did.
00:29:54I did.
00:29:55Did you?
00:29:56We shall be hearing
00:29:58from your husband later,
00:30:00you know.
00:30:01He will tell us.
00:30:03Are you quite sure?
00:30:06You told him you wanted
00:30:07to move out of the terrace house?
00:30:09Yes.
00:30:10Yes.
00:30:11But did you tell him why?
00:30:13I mean,
00:30:14did you tell him
00:30:14you thought the place
00:30:15was haunted?
00:30:18Well,
00:30:19madam?
00:30:20Well,
00:30:20it wouldn't have helped,
00:30:21see?
00:30:22No,
00:30:23I don't see.
00:30:24He'd been very angry.
00:30:26Oh,
00:30:26why?
00:30:27Because of the way
00:30:28I'd behaved
00:30:28to Father Atta,
00:30:29upsetting his special mass
00:30:31and that,
00:30:31and,
00:30:33well,
00:30:33then I,
00:30:33I was afraid.
00:30:35Because he'd been angry?
00:30:37And more.
00:30:38More?
00:30:39Your husband
00:30:39had ill-treated you,
00:30:41beaten you.
00:30:42Yes,
00:30:43but,
00:30:43see,
00:30:44you've got to understand,
00:30:45in Malta,
00:30:46well,
00:30:46I mean,
00:30:47for a wife
00:30:47to behave
00:30:48as I did
00:30:49to a patriarch
00:30:49of the community,
00:30:50let alone him
00:30:51being a priest,
00:30:52well,
00:30:53Joe was only doing
00:30:53what he thought was right.
00:30:55I see,
00:30:56yes.
00:30:57So,
00:30:57now you're telling us
00:30:58that you did not talk
00:30:59about your possession idea
00:31:01to your husband?
00:31:02Yes,
00:31:03that's right.
00:31:04Well,
00:31:04did you tell anyone
00:31:05of these fears?
00:31:08No?
00:31:09Well,
00:31:09not the doctor,
00:31:10not the neighbours.
00:31:12Well,
00:31:13you can't,
00:31:14can you?
00:31:15Not a thing like that.
00:31:17Why?
00:31:19Afraid they'd think
00:31:20you were mad,
00:31:21perhaps?
00:31:22Not so scared
00:31:23of being thought mad
00:31:24now,
00:31:24though,
00:31:25are we?
00:31:25Really,
00:31:26my lord,
00:31:26I'm...
00:31:27You've told us
00:31:29your husband blames you
00:31:30for the disturbed
00:31:31state of your children,
00:31:32yes?
00:31:34You feel guilty,
00:31:35responsible.
00:31:37Why did you have twins
00:31:39in the first place,
00:31:40do you think?
00:31:40Why?
00:31:41Isn't it a fact
00:31:42that you believe
00:31:43that that was your fault,
00:31:44also?
00:31:44Look,
00:31:45he was the Catholic,
00:31:46wasn't he?
00:31:46Maltese,
00:31:47you see.
00:31:48I wanted to
00:31:49keep on with my job.
00:31:51I didn't want to rush
00:31:52into a family,
00:31:53but,
00:31:54well,
00:31:54as Joe sees it,
00:31:55women are for
00:31:56making children,
00:31:57not money.
00:31:59You were using
00:31:59a contraceptive pill,
00:32:00weren't you?
00:32:01But secretly.
00:32:05Yes,
00:32:05well,
00:32:05I didn't know
00:32:06it would act up
00:32:06like that,
00:32:07did I?
00:32:08Like what,
00:32:09Mrs. Bedell?
00:32:09Well,
00:32:09how you'd have
00:32:10come on
00:32:11extra fertile
00:32:11when you leave
00:32:12off it.
00:32:12I didn't know
00:32:13that.
00:32:14Extra fertile.
00:32:16Well,
00:32:16I don't think
00:32:17there's any
00:32:17medical evidence
00:32:18for that,
00:32:18but the fact
00:32:19remains that
00:32:19you believe
00:32:20that is why
00:32:20you had twins.
00:32:21It is.
00:32:22He found the pills
00:32:23and then
00:32:24he threw them
00:32:24away,
00:32:25and then...
00:32:25Twins!
00:32:26Guilt!
00:32:28Remorse!
00:32:30And then,
00:32:30because of all that,
00:32:31you determined
00:32:31to make them
00:32:32perfect,
00:32:33didn't you?
00:32:33And why not?
00:32:35You instituted
00:32:35these rigid disciplines,
00:32:36no naughtiness,
00:32:37no spoiling.
00:32:38Isolate them
00:32:39from other children.
00:32:40Keep them always
00:32:41clean and well-behaved.
00:32:44Is that wrong?
00:32:45Is it?
00:32:46I wanted...
00:32:47Perfection!
00:32:48Oh,
00:32:48they were.
00:32:49They were.
00:32:51Were?
00:32:51Don't you mean
00:32:52are,
00:32:52Mrs. Spiteri?
00:32:53I thought you were
00:32:54telling us
00:32:54they're still alive.
00:32:55I mean
00:32:56were,
00:32:56were,
00:32:57were,
00:32:57were,
00:32:57before they
00:32:58kept them out.
00:32:59Oh, yes,
00:33:00of course,
00:33:01these spirits.
00:33:02Yes.
00:33:03Nevertheless,
00:33:04you used to
00:33:04beat them,
00:33:05didn't you?
00:33:06What?
00:33:07Davy in particular.
00:33:09No,
00:33:10only smacks.
00:33:11Smacks when
00:33:12they were naughty.
00:33:13Only smacks?
00:33:13What about the time
00:33:14when the television
00:33:14broke down,
00:33:15Mrs. Spiteri?
00:33:17Well,
00:33:18that,
00:33:19that...
00:33:20That was what?
00:33:22Different?
00:33:23Yes.
00:33:25It was,
00:33:26it was the only thing
00:33:27to keep them quiet,
00:33:29you see,
00:33:29the only thing,
00:33:30and I,
00:33:31I was in a terrible
00:33:33state myself,
00:33:34you see,
00:33:35I hadn't had
00:33:36any proper sleep,
00:33:37not for nights,
00:33:38and,
00:33:39well,
00:33:39half a...
00:33:40Well,
00:33:41then the damn
00:33:41thing broke down.
00:33:43You should have
00:33:43seen them,
00:33:44creating like animals
00:33:45they were,
00:33:46I...
00:33:46Perhaps the impulse
00:33:47to kill the twins
00:33:48had already formed,
00:33:49Mrs. Spiteri.
00:33:50Impulse?
00:33:51You felt you'd
00:33:52failed,
00:33:52didn't you?
00:33:53Oh,
00:33:53not fail.
00:33:54Despite all
00:33:55your discipline,
00:33:55rigid standards,
00:33:56and smacking,
00:33:57despite all this,
00:33:58you'd failed.
00:33:59Your children
00:33:59were flawed,
00:34:00contaminated,
00:34:01as you've told us,
00:34:02but not
00:34:02with alien spirits.
00:34:04Yes.
00:34:05No,
00:34:06simply your own
00:34:06inadequacy.
00:34:08Life was hell,
00:34:09wasn't it?
00:34:10And the twins,
00:34:11your whole life,
00:34:12as you've said,
00:34:14they were the most
00:34:14hellish part.
00:34:16A constant reminder
00:34:18of failure
00:34:18and contamination.
00:34:20Not the twins,
00:34:21not my babies.
00:34:22They had to be put
00:34:23down,
00:34:23didn't they,
00:34:23Mrs. Spiteri?
00:34:24No.
00:34:25Put down,
00:34:25like you'd cull out
00:34:26the runts from the litter.
00:34:28No.
00:34:28It was a kindness,
00:34:29wasn't it?
00:34:30Put them out
00:34:31of their misery.
00:34:32Purge them,
00:34:33and purge yourself
00:34:34of the contamination.
00:34:36Look,
00:34:36only the spirits,
00:34:37they're possessors.
00:34:38Oh, no.
00:34:39No,
00:34:39that came after
00:34:40that idea,
00:34:41just as the idea
00:34:42of killing yourself
00:34:43came after,
00:34:44Mrs. Spiteri.
00:34:46What?
00:34:47You tried to kill yourself
00:34:49in the prison hospital,
00:34:50didn't you?
00:34:52Out of remorse
00:34:53and shame,
00:34:55because you know
00:34:56very well
00:34:57that you killed
00:34:57your children.
00:34:58Lord,
00:34:59I do hope
00:34:59my friend has
00:35:00some evidence
00:35:00to substantiate this.
00:35:01I know nothing of it.
00:35:02Have you,
00:35:03Mr. Lodderby?
00:35:03Yes,
00:35:04my lord,
00:35:04I have.
00:35:05Moreover,
00:35:05I expect both
00:35:06the accused
00:35:07and Dr. Morton
00:35:08to confirm it.
00:35:08This is unnecessary,
00:35:09irrelevant.
00:35:10Yes,
00:35:10Dr. Morton,
00:35:11I hope you will not
00:35:11attempt to influence
00:35:12the witness.
00:35:13I'm sorry,
00:35:14my lord,
00:35:14that was not my intention,
00:35:15but in view of
00:35:16the attitude of this man...
00:35:17In view of nothing,
00:35:17sit down.
00:35:18Mrs. Spiteri,
00:35:19did you attempt
00:35:20suicide
00:35:21in the prison hospital?
00:35:22It's...
00:35:25It's what's happened
00:35:28to me since.
00:35:29Yes?
00:35:30Since I saved
00:35:31my babies.
00:35:32What has happened?
00:35:35Well,
00:35:35I...
00:35:36I did keep them
00:35:38out that night.
00:35:39I did keep them
00:35:41out of my twins,
00:35:42but...
00:35:43Yes?
00:35:44Oh,
00:35:45they've come
00:35:47into me,
00:35:48you see.
00:35:49Both are the spirits.
00:35:51They're in me.
00:35:53They...
00:35:53They're evil.
00:35:56They're foul.
00:35:57They are me.
00:35:58They're taunting me.
00:36:00They're talking
00:36:01through my tongue.
00:36:03Oh,
00:36:03they are me.
00:36:05Do you wonder
00:36:05I want to kill myself?
00:36:07Do you wonder?
00:36:09Do you wonder
00:36:09I want to kill myself?
00:36:18No, doctor.
00:36:25What matters
00:36:26for this trial
00:36:27is the specific
00:36:28definition
00:36:29of Mrs. Spiteri's
00:36:30current mental state.
00:36:33Well,
00:36:34yes,
00:36:34yes,
00:36:34of course.
00:36:35If it is proved
00:36:35that she is currently
00:36:36psychotic,
00:36:38as you maintain,
00:36:39then she may be found
00:36:41unfit to plead.
00:36:42Quite.
00:36:43But if,
00:36:43on the other hand,
00:36:44the jury finds
00:36:45that she's merely neurotic,
00:36:47then she must be found
00:36:48unfit.
00:36:50Now, doctor,
00:36:50you diagnosed
00:36:51a depressive psychosis
00:36:53characterized
00:36:54by severe delusions.
00:36:56After some
00:36:5720 therapeutic sessions,
00:36:58yes,
00:36:59I did.
00:36:59Well,
00:37:00you see,
00:37:00I'm going to suggest
00:37:01that no matter
00:37:01how many sessions,
00:37:02you could be mistaken.
00:37:03No one's infallible,
00:37:05of course.
00:37:05What would cause
00:37:06such a psychosis
00:37:07as you've described?
00:37:09Cause?
00:37:10The most widely
00:37:12accepted explanation
00:37:13is that it's
00:37:13an hereditary condition.
00:37:15But in some cases,
00:37:16clinical symptoms
00:37:17only emerge
00:37:18when the patient
00:37:19is exposed
00:37:19to a situation
00:37:20of intolerable stress.
00:37:21I see.
00:37:22So what do you think you're...
00:37:22Such as those
00:37:23to which Megwin Spiteri
00:37:24was exposed.
00:37:25But surely,
00:37:25Mrs. Spiteri...
00:37:26If I may be allowed
00:37:26to finish.
00:37:30You heard her yourselves.
00:37:32The hellish treadmill
00:37:33of National Health Service
00:37:34referrals,
00:37:35trailing from one specialist
00:37:36to another,
00:37:37clinic to clinic,
00:37:38told she was fussing,
00:37:40imagining things,
00:37:40and all the time
00:37:41her children getting worse,
00:37:43withdrawing into tantrums
00:37:44in this zombie-like state.
00:37:47Her husband telling her
00:37:48that she was to blame
00:37:49for it all,
00:37:49and then bringing in a priest.
00:37:51And then,
00:37:52having Dr. Beale tell her
00:37:53the twins must go away
00:37:55to a hospital
00:37:55for the mentally subnormal.
00:37:58For such a mother,
00:38:00any mother with a strong
00:38:01emotional dependence
00:38:02upon her children,
00:38:03well,
00:38:04what more appalling
00:38:05judgment than that
00:38:07as the climax
00:38:08to all her efforts
00:38:09and anxiety?
00:38:11Yes,
00:38:11and making for
00:38:12an acute sense
00:38:13of failure.
00:38:14But as likely
00:38:15to make her neurotic
00:38:16and psychotic,
00:38:17surely, Doctor?
00:38:18Perhaps.
00:38:18I mean,
00:38:19take, for instance,
00:38:19the depressions.
00:38:22Yes.
00:38:22What mother
00:38:23wouldn't be depressed
00:38:24to find herself
00:38:25confined at a prison hospital
00:38:27after having poisoned
00:38:28her two children?
00:38:29I would have thought
00:38:30that was a pretty
00:38:31normal response,
00:38:32depression.
00:38:33Of course,
00:38:34except that Mrs. Spiteri
00:38:35was in acute shock
00:38:37to the point of mutism
00:38:38and amnesia,
00:38:38and was later found
00:38:40to be suffering
00:38:40severe delusions.
00:38:42Or so she led you
00:38:43to believe, Doctor.
00:38:45You see,
00:38:46I'm suggesting
00:38:46that she was deceiving you.
00:38:49Really?
00:38:49Well, naturally,
00:38:50she was in shock,
00:38:51just that she was,
00:38:52uh,
00:38:53depressed,
00:38:55but not psychotically so,
00:38:57not due to any,
00:38:58uh,
00:39:00what was it you said,
00:39:01uh,
00:39:02hereditary psychosis.
00:39:04Not due to any
00:39:04hereditary psychosis
00:39:06you've diagnosed.
00:39:07Look,
00:39:07if we could just
00:39:08try to clarify this.
00:39:09Oh,
00:39:09please do,
00:39:10Doctor.
00:39:11Now,
00:39:11you're saying
00:39:12she could be lying
00:39:13about her belief
00:39:14in their possession,
00:39:14is that right?
00:39:15Yes.
00:39:16Pretending the delusions?
00:39:17Exactly.
00:39:18That she deliberately
00:39:20disposed of her children
00:39:21out of some sort of,
00:39:22I don't know,
00:39:23warped euthanasia motive
00:39:24because she saw them
00:39:25as,
00:39:25as,
00:39:26runts?
00:39:29Perhaps,
00:39:29but whatever her motives,
00:39:31what I'm saying
00:39:31is that they had
00:39:32nothing whatsoever
00:39:33to do with liberating
00:39:34her children
00:39:35from spiritual possession.
00:39:37Hmm.
00:39:38Or so you would like
00:39:39to prove.
00:39:41Are you married,
00:39:42Doctor?
00:39:42A family man?
00:39:44Do I have to answer that,
00:39:45my lord?
00:39:45Is this relevant,
00:39:46Mr. Lodemy?
00:39:46Yes, my lord.
00:39:47Are you married,
00:39:48Doctor?
00:39:49Yes.
00:39:49Any children?
00:39:50Four,
00:39:51but I don't see what that...
00:39:51Oh,
00:39:51in your evidence
00:39:52to my loaded friend,
00:39:53you referred to
00:39:53an ego defense mechanism.
00:39:55Yes.
00:39:56Now,
00:39:57no one will deny,
00:39:58Doctor,
00:39:58your evident compassion,
00:40:01the strong sense
00:40:01of involvement
00:40:02you have in Mrs. Spiteri's case.
00:40:04No more so
00:40:05than with any other patient.
00:40:06All these outbursts
00:40:07of yours
00:40:08about the NHS treadmill,
00:40:09the intolerable stresses
00:40:11she's had to endure.
00:40:12So?
00:40:13The emotional way
00:40:13in which you've challenged
00:40:14the court's right
00:40:15to try her at all.
00:40:16She's not cured.
00:40:17It's obvious
00:40:17you are involved,
00:40:19Doctor.
00:40:19You care most deeply,
00:40:22even to the point
00:40:23of prejudice.
00:40:24No.
00:40:26And why?
00:40:27Because,
00:40:27Doctor,
00:40:28as a family man
00:40:29with four children,
00:40:31you find the alternative
00:40:32utterly intolerable,
00:40:35do you not?
00:40:36Alternative?
00:40:37The alternative
00:40:38to psychosis.
00:40:39I don't follow.
00:40:41Infanticide,
00:40:42Doctor.
00:40:43The crime
00:40:44of infanticide.
00:40:46You find it
00:40:46utterly intolerable
00:40:48that any mother
00:40:49could consciously
00:40:50desire to poison
00:40:51her children.
00:40:52Nonsense.
00:40:54An ego defense mechanism.
00:40:56Is it not you
00:40:57who has to
00:40:58reject the reality,
00:40:59Doctor?
00:41:00Well, really.
00:41:01Hide the reality
00:41:02of such cruelty
00:41:02behind psychiatric jargon,
00:41:05severe depressive psychosis,
00:41:07a delusion
00:41:08that she wasn't
00:41:09killing her children
00:41:09but saving them?
00:41:10this is your let out,
00:41:12isn't it, Doctor?
00:41:13Very clever,
00:41:15but not,
00:41:15not true.
00:41:18No, Doctor?
00:41:20No further questions.
00:41:21Do you wish to re-examine?
00:41:23Do you mind?
00:41:23Um, briefly,
00:41:25my lord.
00:41:27Doctor,
00:41:27you're a professional
00:41:28psychiatrist of how many
00:41:29years' experience?
00:41:30Roughly 15 years
00:41:31in medicine,
00:41:3211 of them
00:41:33in psychiatry.
00:41:35Specializing in criminal
00:41:36psychopathy?
00:41:37Yes.
00:41:38So it's
00:41:39not unusual for you
00:41:40to examine a mother
00:41:41accused of infanticide?
00:41:42No, unfortunately.
00:41:44Could you have let yourself
00:41:45get emotionally
00:41:46prejudiced in this case?
00:41:47I hope not,
00:41:49but...
00:41:49Yes?
00:41:51Obviously,
00:41:52one wouldn't be human
00:41:52not to care.
00:41:54Just have to try,
00:41:55that's all.
00:41:55Try to keep assessments
00:41:56as dispassionate
00:41:58as possible.
00:42:00Thank you, Doctor.
00:42:01You may return
00:42:02to your seat.
00:42:05I call
00:42:05Joseph Borg Spiteri.
00:42:09Joseph Borg Spiteri,
00:42:10please.
00:42:10This right, sir.
00:42:17You are
00:42:24Joseph Borg Spiteri
00:42:26of
00:42:2715
00:42:28Willow Place,
00:42:29Fulchester?
00:42:30Yes.
00:42:31Sir,
00:42:32what I have told police,
00:42:35that was said in anger.
00:42:36I did not mean
00:42:37these things.
00:42:38You are referring
00:42:39to the statement
00:42:40you made to the police
00:42:41following the deaths
00:42:42of the children.
00:42:43Sir,
00:42:43I was much upset.
00:42:44Well,
00:42:47Mr Spiteri,
00:42:48this trial
00:42:50is not about
00:42:51your wife's guilt
00:42:51or innocence of murder.
00:42:53What, please?
00:42:55You're here
00:42:55as a defense witness.
00:42:57You see,
00:42:57you've been called
00:42:58to describe
00:42:58the state of mind
00:42:59of your wife
00:43:00prior to the tragic events
00:43:02of the night of,
00:43:02what is it,
00:43:034th of August last.
00:43:04State of mind?
00:43:06Her illness.
00:43:07Illness.
00:43:08Much illness
00:43:09is no doubt.
00:43:12Yes?
00:43:13Always to doctors.
00:43:14always wanting
00:43:16or another.
00:43:18Skin rashes,
00:43:19migraines,
00:43:21bad sleep.
00:43:22It's this or that.
00:43:23Making children
00:43:24very bad.
00:43:26No surprising,
00:43:27huh?
00:43:29If she
00:43:29no go to doctor,
00:43:31she's afraid
00:43:32of dirt,
00:43:34noise,
00:43:35what do you call?
00:43:36Pollution.
00:43:37Pollution.
00:43:38Lead,
00:43:39air,
00:43:39everything.
00:43:41Not even
00:43:42allowing us
00:43:43to have pet dogs.
00:43:44Not even that.
00:43:46No dog?
00:43:46Why not?
00:43:47Dirty.
00:43:48Messy.
00:43:49One time,
00:43:50she said to me
00:43:51how the kiddies are bad.
00:43:52I go out
00:43:53to buy puppy dog.
00:43:55I said to her,
00:43:56it's better.
00:43:57Spaniel is better
00:43:58for them
00:43:58than the television.
00:44:00But she wouldn't have it.
00:44:00sir,
00:44:01sir,
00:44:02all day
00:44:03was fine.
00:44:05Bouncing,
00:44:06noisy,
00:44:06but
00:44:07is okay.
00:44:09But night time
00:44:09is trouble.
00:44:12All night,
00:44:13whining for to go out,
00:44:15missing the house,
00:44:16acting bad.
00:44:18Couple of nights like this,
00:44:19back to the shop.
00:44:20But that animal,
00:44:21you see,
00:44:21it could tell,
00:44:22it could sense them
00:44:23coming into the...
00:44:24You must remain silent,
00:44:25Mrs. Bedieri.
00:44:26Yes,
00:44:26but that puppy,
00:44:27it knew,
00:44:28you see.
00:44:28That's enough about it now.
00:44:30Yes?
00:44:32As you were saying
00:44:33about her pollution fears.
00:44:35So,
00:44:36always calling council
00:44:38for to make tests.
00:44:39Test water,
00:44:41gas leaks,
00:44:42children's blood,
00:44:43food.
00:44:44This I don't believe.
00:44:46Only on this matter
00:44:47of the house,
00:44:48I am persuaded.
00:44:50The house?
00:44:51Sir,
00:44:51for to move
00:44:52from Tower Flats.
00:44:53That was for best.
00:44:55Oh, yeah.
00:44:55It's so high,
00:44:56so bad for children, sir.
00:44:57Yes,
00:44:57but as for leaving
00:44:58the terrace house
00:45:00in Willow Park?
00:45:03Yes,
00:45:03she wanted.
00:45:04She wanted to go, sir.
00:45:05Why?
00:45:06Fear.
00:45:07Of what?
00:45:09Like all things else.
00:45:11Air,
00:45:12dirt,
00:45:12the house,
00:45:14contamination,
00:45:15she says.
00:45:16I say,
00:45:17no,
00:45:18it's not true.
00:45:19It's not true.
00:45:20It's only in here.
00:45:22Oh,
00:45:24much sorrow.
00:45:25She said nothing to you
00:45:26about the house
00:45:27being haunted,
00:45:28about the children
00:45:29being possessed
00:45:29by alien spirits?
00:45:33Superstitions, huh?
00:45:34Foolish talk.
00:45:36Village people,
00:45:37they talk like that.
00:45:38Yes,
00:45:38but did your wife?
00:45:41I have,
00:45:42this friend
00:45:43from Malta,
00:45:45a priest
00:45:46in Valletta
00:45:47where he knows
00:45:48my family,
00:45:49but he'd been here
00:45:51ten years.
00:45:52He married us,
00:45:53he made the godfather
00:45:55for the children.
00:45:57God now
00:45:58has taken them.
00:45:59He spoke of possession?
00:46:01Sir,
00:46:02he was their
00:46:03spiritual father.
00:46:04He had their souls
00:46:06in his hands.
00:46:07Yes,
00:46:08and your wife,
00:46:08did she believe
00:46:09what he said?
00:46:11She don't understand.
00:46:12Oh?
00:46:13She is not
00:46:14of our fate.
00:46:16This priest,
00:46:17my friend,
00:46:18he comes
00:46:19for to say
00:46:20a special mass
00:46:21to bless the children.
00:46:22and then
00:46:24the illness
00:46:27come to her.
00:46:28She is screaming.
00:46:30She does not know
00:46:31what she does.
00:46:33Oh,
00:46:33it's bad.
00:46:35Oh,
00:46:35much sorrow,
00:46:36sir.
00:46:36And she said
00:46:37nothing to you
00:46:38afterwards
00:46:38about the children
00:46:40being possessed
00:46:41by demons?
00:46:42No,
00:46:43nothing,
00:46:44sir.
00:46:45Nevertheless,
00:46:45Mr. Spiteri,
00:46:46you had plenty
00:46:47to say to her,
00:46:47didn't you?
00:46:48What,
00:46:49sir?
00:46:50About her behaviour
00:46:51towards Father Attard.
00:46:55Come now,
00:46:55didn't you punish her?
00:46:58Didn't you give her
00:46:58a beating,
00:46:59Mrs. Spiteri,
00:46:59didn't you?
00:47:01She
00:47:02beated
00:47:02David.
00:47:03She beated
00:47:04my son.
00:47:05She was not
00:47:05a true mother.
00:47:09I'm sorry,
00:47:09sir,
00:47:10if I shout.
00:47:11It's because
00:47:11I have much
00:47:12feelings in here.
00:47:15Yes,
00:47:16I beated
00:47:18her.
00:47:19I beated
00:47:19my wife
00:47:20when she
00:47:21was ill
00:47:21in here.
00:47:23But
00:47:24I know
00:47:26one much
00:47:26from life,
00:47:28only
00:47:29home,
00:47:31family,
00:47:31wife,
00:47:32children.
00:47:33I try
00:47:34for these
00:47:35things.
00:47:35I try.
00:47:36When there
00:47:37is work,
00:47:37I work.
00:47:39I pray.
00:47:40I pay
00:47:41the taxes.
00:47:42I keep
00:47:42the law.
00:47:43I try.
00:47:43But
00:47:46always
00:47:46with the
00:47:47troubles.
00:47:48Always.
00:47:49The
00:47:50children,
00:47:51the illness,
00:47:52everything
00:47:52going wrong.
00:47:55Yes,
00:47:56I beated
00:47:56her.
00:47:57It's
00:47:58bad.
00:48:00And now,
00:48:01now I
00:48:02pay.
00:48:03You
00:48:03pray,
00:48:04Mrs. Spiteri?
00:48:05Pay.
00:48:07P-A-Y.
00:48:09Pay
00:48:09with the
00:48:10lives of
00:48:11my two
00:48:11children.
00:48:12The
00:48:36case of the
00:48:36Queen against
00:48:37Spiteri will
00:48:38be concluded
00:48:39tomorrow in
00:48:40the Crown
00:48:40Court.
00:48:40Mrs.
00:49:07Megwin-Spiteri was
00:49:08to face the
00:49:09charge of
00:49:09murdering her
00:49:10five-year-old
00:49:11twins.
00:49:12But before
00:49:12the trial,
00:49:13her counsel
00:49:13claimed she
00:49:14was unfit
00:49:14to plead.
00:49:16Accordingly,
00:49:16a jury was
00:49:17in panel to
00:49:17decide whether
00:49:18she is
00:49:18mentally
00:49:18incapable of
00:49:20appreciating all
00:49:21the allegations
00:49:21against her.
00:49:23In evidence,
00:49:23a psychiatrist
00:49:24said that
00:49:24due to a
00:49:25depressive
00:49:25psychosis,
00:49:27the mother
00:49:27has delusions
00:49:28about the
00:49:28true fate
00:49:29of her
00:49:29twins and
00:49:30in fact
00:49:30believes
00:49:31they are
00:49:31still alive.
00:49:32Mrs.
00:49:32Spiteri then
00:49:33described how
00:49:34her children
00:49:34changed,
00:49:35becoming like
00:49:36zombies all
00:49:37day and
00:49:37at night
00:49:38sleep-talking
00:49:39to each
00:49:39other.
00:49:40Believing
00:49:40they were
00:49:41nightly
00:49:41possessed
00:49:41with demons,
00:49:42she said
00:49:43she tried
00:49:43to save
00:49:44the children
00:49:44by keeping
00:49:45them awake
00:49:45with pep
00:49:46pills.
00:49:47Her
00:49:47husband,
00:49:48Joseph Spiteri,
00:49:48is being
00:49:49cross-examined
00:49:49by the
00:49:50prosecution.
00:49:50now then,
00:49:52Mr.
00:49:53Spiteri,
00:49:54my friend
00:49:54asked you
00:49:55at some
00:49:55length
00:49:55about your
00:49:56wife's
00:49:56nervous
00:49:56illness
00:49:57and from
00:49:57your replies
00:49:58it would
00:49:58seem she
00:49:59in fact
00:49:59suffered no
00:49:59more than
00:50:00a few
00:50:00typically
00:50:01neurotic
00:50:02symptoms.
00:50:03Neurotic?
00:50:04Well,
00:50:04headaches,
00:50:05skin rashes,
00:50:05insomnia.
00:50:07It's true,
00:50:08true.
00:50:08You said
00:50:09nothing,
00:50:09for instance,
00:50:09of her
00:50:10having delusions
00:50:12or acute
00:50:12depressions.
00:50:14She,
00:50:15my wife,
00:50:16she was
00:50:17not happy.
00:50:18Well,
00:50:19no,
00:50:19no,
00:50:19of course
00:50:20not,
00:50:20the children
00:50:21ill and
00:50:21so on.
00:50:21Often
00:50:22she'd say
00:50:23to me
00:50:24how,
00:50:25yes,
00:50:25Mr.
00:50:26Spiteri,
00:50:27sir,
00:50:27how I
00:50:28only marry
00:50:28her for
00:50:28to stay
00:50:29here,
00:50:30how she
00:50:30is my
00:50:31passport
00:50:32for to
00:50:33stay in
00:50:33the UK.
00:50:34It's not
00:50:35true.
00:50:36You're not
00:50:36dependent on
00:50:37her for
00:50:37your status
00:50:38as a
00:50:38British
00:50:38citizen.
00:50:39No,
00:50:39sir,
00:50:39but she
00:50:40always say
00:50:41how I
00:50:41marry her
00:50:42only for
00:50:42this.
00:50:44It's
00:50:44because
00:50:44she is
00:50:46ill.
00:50:47But
00:50:47nothing
00:50:48else.
00:50:49there is
00:50:51the matter
00:50:52of the
00:50:53deserting.
00:50:55What?
00:50:56Sir,
00:50:56she has
00:50:57this fear
00:50:57that one
00:50:58day I
00:50:59leave her
00:50:59and go,
00:51:00take the
00:51:01children,
00:51:01go back
00:51:01to Malta.
00:51:02It's
00:51:03crazy.
00:51:04She knows
00:51:05I am a
00:51:06good Catholic.
00:51:07For me,
00:51:08the family
00:51:08is sacred.
00:51:09It's crazy.
00:51:11So there
00:51:12were some
00:51:12marital
00:51:13anxieties,
00:51:14but no
00:51:14sign of
00:51:14any
00:51:15psychotic
00:51:15delusion.
00:51:17And then
00:51:17she had
00:51:18this of
00:51:19the sleep
00:51:20talking.
00:51:20Oh,
00:51:20yes.
00:51:21Now,
00:51:21what about
00:51:21that?
00:51:22Sir,
00:51:23she say
00:51:24Davy and
00:51:24Maria,
00:51:25they speak
00:51:26between each
00:51:27other in
00:51:28the night
00:51:29while they
00:51:29sleep.
00:51:30So she
00:51:30told us.
00:51:31I don't
00:51:32believe.
00:51:33But I
00:51:33mean,
00:51:33you must
00:51:34have heard
00:51:34them,
00:51:35though.
00:51:35I
00:51:35heard talk,
00:51:36but I
00:51:37think it's
00:51:38just dreaming.
00:51:40Just
00:51:40nightmares.
00:51:41Well,
00:51:41you'd never
00:51:41listen,
00:51:42would you?
00:51:43Now,
00:51:43that's
00:51:43enough.
00:51:45So,
00:51:45Mr.
00:51:46Spiteri,
00:51:46the imaginings
00:51:47of an
00:51:47over-anxious
00:51:48mother.
00:51:49And the
00:51:50way she
00:51:50keep the
00:51:51twins,
00:51:52huh?
00:51:52So strict.
00:51:54No going
00:51:54out.
00:51:55No other
00:51:56children.
00:51:57Not going
00:51:58to baby
00:51:58school.
00:51:59Not even
00:52:00wanting to
00:52:01leave the
00:52:01children with
00:52:02me,
00:52:03their father.
00:52:04This is
00:52:04not crazy.
00:52:05Oh,
00:52:06not perhaps
00:52:06by the
00:52:07standards of
00:52:07an over-possessive
00:52:08mother.
00:52:09In Malta,
00:52:10they don't
00:52:10do this.
00:52:12Oh,
00:52:12come,
00:52:12Mr.
00:52:12Spiteri,
00:52:13no possessive
00:52:13mothers in
00:52:14Malta?
00:52:14It's not
00:52:15normal thing.
00:52:17Well,
00:52:17a mother who
00:52:17even rejected
00:52:19the recommendations
00:52:19of a doctor
00:52:20in order to
00:52:20keep her
00:52:21children with...
00:52:21What?
00:52:23The
00:52:23recommendations
00:52:24of Dr.
00:52:24Beale.
00:52:25Your wife
00:52:26refused to
00:52:27allow her
00:52:27children to
00:52:28go to the
00:52:28hospital.
00:52:29Please,
00:52:30what you
00:52:30are saying?
00:52:32You didn't
00:52:32know this?
00:52:33No.
00:52:34She only
00:52:35said the
00:52:35doctor can
00:52:36do nothing
00:52:36for them.
00:52:37Only this.
00:52:38No mention
00:52:39of hospital.
00:52:40Well,
00:52:40there you
00:52:40are,
00:52:40you see,
00:52:41Mr. Spiteri,
00:52:41an over-possessive
00:52:42mother.
00:52:43Crazy.
00:52:44Like I told
00:52:45the police,
00:52:46crazy.
00:52:48She was
00:52:49going to
00:52:49poison me
00:52:50the same
00:52:51as my
00:52:52children.
00:52:53Crazy.
00:52:54Oh,
00:52:54Lord,
00:52:55I really
00:52:55must protect.
00:52:56Yes,
00:52:56just a minute,
00:52:57Mr.
00:52:58Kumar.
00:52:59Your wife
00:53:01tried to
00:53:02poison you,
00:53:03Mr.
00:53:03Spiteri.
00:53:04Sir,
00:53:04with these
00:53:05barbiturates,
00:53:07the same
00:53:07night as
00:53:08my children.
00:53:08It was only
00:53:09to make you
00:53:10sleep.
00:53:11Be quiet.
00:53:12Now,
00:53:12this is a
00:53:13very serious
00:53:13accusation.
00:53:14Sir,
00:53:15she knows
00:53:15I am weak
00:53:16here.
00:53:17She gives
00:53:17me barbiturates,
00:53:18many pills.
00:53:20It's miracles
00:53:21how I am
00:53:22here today.
00:53:23It's miracles
00:53:24she does not
00:53:24finish me
00:53:25like she
00:53:26finishes them.
00:53:27Davy and
00:53:28Maria,
00:53:29God rest
00:53:29their souls.
00:53:31My Lord,
00:53:31Mr.
00:53:32Spiteri was
00:53:32examined by
00:53:33a police
00:53:33surgeon.
00:53:34No charges
00:53:35be brought.
00:53:35Yes,
00:53:35quite so,
00:53:36Mr.
00:53:36Kumar.
00:53:36Members of
00:53:37the jury,
00:53:37you will not
00:53:37concern yourselves
00:53:38with this
00:53:39allegation.
00:53:40Yes?
00:53:41No further
00:53:42questions,
00:53:42my Lord.
00:53:44You wish
00:53:45to...
00:53:46Only on this
00:53:47last issue,
00:53:47my Lord.
00:53:48Mr.
00:53:49Spiteri,
00:53:49I...
00:53:50Look,
00:53:51I'm sure
00:53:52that we're
00:53:52all deeply
00:53:54sympathetic about
00:53:55the tragedy
00:53:56which has
00:53:56overtaken you
00:53:57and your
00:53:57family.
00:53:58We appreciate
00:53:59your grief.
00:54:00and emotional
00:54:01strain.
00:54:03However,
00:54:04you see,
00:54:04in her evidence,
00:54:05your wife has
00:54:06already told us
00:54:06that on that
00:54:07night,
00:54:08she got
00:54:09Joe off to
00:54:10sleep nice
00:54:11and early
00:54:11so he
00:54:12wouldn't
00:54:13interfere.
00:54:15She was
00:54:15giving you
00:54:16the pills
00:54:16just so that
00:54:17you could
00:54:18get to
00:54:18sleep.
00:54:22Sure.
00:54:23Lord,
00:54:24call the
00:54:25last witness
00:54:26for the
00:54:26defense,
00:54:27Father
00:54:27Attard.
00:54:28and will
00:54:32you kindly
00:54:32tell us,
00:54:32Father,
00:54:33what happened
00:54:34on that
00:54:34first visit
00:54:35to the
00:54:35Spiteri
00:54:35household
00:54:36here in
00:54:36Forchester.
00:54:38Immediately,
00:54:39upon my
00:54:40arrival,
00:54:41I sensed
00:54:42the presence
00:54:42of evil
00:54:43in the house.
00:54:44Really?
00:54:44How?
00:54:45For a man
00:54:46of my calling,
00:54:47there are
00:54:47signs.
00:54:47you, sir,
00:54:49must have
00:54:50the sense
00:54:51for deceit
00:54:51to smell
00:54:52out the
00:54:52truth from
00:54:53lies,
00:54:54so it is
00:54:54that a man
00:54:54of God
00:54:55must have
00:54:56the sense
00:54:56for evil.
00:54:58I see.
00:54:59I think
00:55:00you do not,
00:55:01sir.
00:55:01Oh?
00:55:02Forgive me,
00:55:03but here
00:55:04the ways
00:55:04of your
00:55:05church,
00:55:06the Maltese
00:55:07people still
00:55:08hear the words
00:55:09of God.
00:55:10They are
00:55:10still united
00:55:11in the fight
00:55:12against the
00:55:12forces of
00:55:13the devil.
00:55:13Yes.
00:55:17So,
00:55:17you sensed
00:55:19the presence
00:55:19of evil?
00:55:20Yes.
00:55:22Just as I
00:55:22had before
00:55:23with David
00:55:24and Maria.
00:55:25Before?
00:55:26Excuse me,
00:55:26when was that?
00:55:27At the
00:55:27baptism.
00:55:28Ah.
00:55:30Then it
00:55:30was not so
00:55:31strong.
00:55:31I was
00:55:32unsure.
00:55:33The voices
00:55:34had not
00:55:35then found
00:55:35tongue in
00:55:36them.
00:55:36They had
00:55:37by the time
00:55:37you came
00:55:38and visited
00:55:38the family
00:55:38here in
00:55:39Forchester.
00:55:39They had.
00:55:41And you
00:55:41must understand
00:55:42it was much
00:55:43mortification
00:55:44for me
00:55:44since I
00:55:45was their
00:55:45spiritual
00:55:45father in
00:55:46Christ.
00:55:47Their
00:55:47godfather.
00:55:48I had
00:55:49the responsibility
00:55:49for their
00:55:50souls.
00:55:51And here,
00:55:52here,
00:55:53I found
00:55:54them in
00:55:54the possession
00:55:55of demons.
00:55:56How were
00:55:57you so
00:55:57sure,
00:55:58apart from
00:55:58this sense
00:55:59of things?
00:55:59The possessors
00:56:00were talking
00:56:01through them.
00:56:03In their
00:56:03sleep?
00:56:04At night,
00:56:05when else?
00:56:06But I
00:56:06mean,
00:56:06what you
00:56:07heard could
00:56:07have been
00:56:07simple sleep
00:56:08talking.
00:56:09Oh,
00:56:10such words,
00:56:10such words,
00:56:11from innocent,
00:56:12such wantonness,
00:56:13such blasphemy,
00:56:14such pleas for
00:56:16death and
00:56:17destruction.
00:56:18But what
00:56:19words?
00:56:21The words of
00:56:21the devil.
00:56:23Such as?
00:56:24You ask me?
00:56:25Yes!
00:56:26A minister of
00:56:27God to repeat
00:56:27such things,
00:56:28such heresy?
00:56:29Well,
00:56:30were they,
00:56:31or did they
00:56:32seem to you,
00:56:34to be conversing
00:56:35with each other?
00:56:37There was one
00:56:37of a male sex,
00:56:39one of a female
00:56:40sex, laughing,
00:56:42mocking,
00:56:43swearing.
00:56:44Naturally,
00:56:45they heard each
00:56:45other.
00:56:46Devils are not
00:56:46deaf.
00:56:47Yes, but surely
00:56:47it went to...
00:56:47You doubt,
00:56:48of course,
00:56:49but forgive me.
00:56:51I am familiar
00:56:52with such things
00:56:53as this.
00:56:53How familiar?
00:56:54As a young man
00:56:55visiting in
00:56:56Calabria,
00:56:56I witnessed the
00:56:57torments of the
00:56:58women, the
00:56:59machiara,
00:57:00who are possessed
00:57:01of demons.
00:57:02My lord,
00:57:02I thought this man
00:57:03was called as a
00:57:04witness to the
00:57:05accused state of
00:57:06mind.
00:57:07Yes, but also
00:57:07to indicate that
00:57:08she was subjected
00:57:09to the things
00:57:10she described
00:57:10and is not
00:57:11making them up,
00:57:12as is suggested,
00:57:13as part of a
00:57:14deliberate device
00:57:14to escape trial.
00:57:15I'll hold a
00:57:16seance and be
00:57:17done with it.
00:57:18Oh, do,
00:57:18let's get on.
00:57:21Father,
00:57:22can you tell us
00:57:23how it was that
00:57:24these children
00:57:25came to be
00:57:25possessed?
00:57:26I mean,
00:57:27they'd been
00:57:28baptised,
00:57:29dedicated to
00:57:29Christ,
00:57:31their godfather
00:57:31was a priest...
00:57:32The mother?
00:57:34How?
00:57:35She had sinned,
00:57:36she had seduced
00:57:38this man into
00:57:38a union outside
00:57:39his own community.
00:57:40At the marriage,
00:57:41she refused to
00:57:42take his faith,
00:57:42she refused confession,
00:57:44the holy sacraments,
00:57:45absolution.
00:57:46She was not in
00:57:47a state of grace.
00:57:49At the baptism,
00:57:50she refused to
00:57:50pray.
00:57:51And then,
00:57:52when I went to
00:57:52the second time
00:57:53to Fulchester,
00:57:54to save the
00:57:55children,
00:57:55David and Maria,
00:57:56to save them
00:57:57with prayer and
00:57:58the holy rites
00:57:59of exorcism,
00:58:00then,
00:58:01then,
00:58:02the devil
00:58:03entered into
00:58:04her also to
00:58:05shout with her
00:58:05mouth to provoke
00:58:07her to throw
00:58:08over the candles
00:58:09to raise their
00:58:10hand against
00:58:11the minister of
00:58:12God.
00:58:13I see.
00:58:14And then,
00:58:15God save her,
00:58:17to provoke her
00:58:18further,
00:58:19to poison
00:58:20her own children.
00:58:21Yes, well,
00:58:22thank you,
00:58:22Father.
00:58:23You can see that
00:58:24this tormented
00:58:24Christian woman
00:58:25can have drawn
00:58:26scant comfort
00:58:27from your visit.
00:58:27well,
00:58:35if not comfort,
00:58:36Father,
00:58:36she certainly
00:58:37drew something
00:58:37from your visits,
00:58:39didn't she?
00:58:40A bizarre gimmick
00:58:41for her subsequent
00:58:43pretense of madness
00:58:44and delusions.
00:58:46Please.
00:58:47You see,
00:58:47Father,
00:58:48this woman is now
00:58:48pretending she's mad.
00:58:50She's saying,
00:58:51among other things,
00:58:52that David and Maria
00:58:53are not actually dead.
00:58:54But I myself
00:58:56performed the last
00:58:57rites at the Church
00:58:58of the Holy Trinity.
00:58:59Well,
00:59:00in your dealings
00:59:01with Mrs. Spiteri,
00:59:02did she strike you
00:59:03in any way
00:59:04as insane?
00:59:05Oh,
00:59:05this word.
00:59:07Mentally deranged,
00:59:09hallucinating,
00:59:10acutely depressed.
00:59:11Forgive me,
00:59:12but in this time
00:59:13such words
00:59:14are so much
00:59:14the fashions,
00:59:15the weakness
00:59:16of the flesh
00:59:17is condoned
00:59:17as compulsion,
00:59:18sense of guilt
00:59:19for past sins
00:59:20is treated
00:59:21as a disease.
00:59:22Your people,
00:59:23they run,
00:59:23now,
00:59:24to doctors
00:59:25for absolution.
00:59:26Yes,
00:59:26but did Mrs. Spiteri
00:59:27strike you...
00:59:28I have said before
00:59:29the devil
00:59:30came into her.
00:59:31She had sinned,
00:59:32she had rejected
00:59:33the state of grace.
00:59:36No doubt
00:59:36you will find
00:59:37your doctors
00:59:38to pronounce her
00:59:39sick in the head,
00:59:40but it is her soul
00:59:43that is stricken.
00:59:45Her soul.
00:59:47Yes,
00:59:48I see.
00:59:51You may leave
00:59:52the witness box.
00:59:52You can go
00:59:53if you like.
00:59:56That concludes
00:59:56the case
00:59:57for the defence,
00:59:58my lord.
00:59:59My lord,
00:59:59I have only
01:00:00one witness,
01:00:01Dr. Beale.
01:00:02So, as well as being
01:00:26a consultant
01:00:27in child psychiatry,
01:00:28you are also
01:00:29fully qualified
01:00:30in the adult field.
01:00:31Yes, yes,
01:00:32I am a doctor of medicine
01:00:33and a member
01:00:33of the Royal College
01:00:34of Psychiatry, yes.
01:00:36And essentially
01:00:36so too.
01:00:37I'm sorry?
01:00:39Well, so often
01:00:39the quirks of the parents
01:00:40are visited upon the child.
01:00:42Oh, I see.
01:00:42So you're watchful
01:00:43for the...
01:00:44For the problem parent.
01:00:45Exactly.
01:00:47So, in fact,
01:00:48although it was
01:00:49officially
01:00:50the Spiteri twins
01:00:51who were your patients,
01:00:52you were simultaneously
01:00:53assessing the personality
01:00:56of their mother,
01:00:57the accused.
01:00:58Yes.
01:00:59Yes, increasingly so,
01:01:00in fact.
01:01:01Yes?
01:01:03Well, I concluded
01:01:03it was external factors,
01:01:05the home environment,
01:01:06in fact,
01:01:07which were chiefly
01:01:08responsible for
01:01:09the twins' condition.
01:01:10Would you please
01:01:11explain that?
01:01:12Certainly, certainly.
01:01:13Mark you,
01:01:14some of the bright suggestions
01:01:15I found on this
01:01:16Spiteri case file.
01:01:18Well, let us just say
01:01:19I found myself
01:01:20at variance
01:01:20with some of the observations
01:01:22made by the
01:01:22Child Guidance Clinic.
01:01:24I mean, it was obvious
01:01:25straight away
01:01:26that the children
01:01:26were not autistic.
01:01:27You could see that
01:01:28straight away
01:01:28from the way
01:01:29they handle symbols.
01:01:31For all their reluctance,
01:01:33David and Maria
01:01:34were perfectly capable
01:01:35of communication.
01:01:37Now, as for retarded,
01:01:38well, on the BNA
01:01:39intelligence scale,
01:01:40they were potentially
01:01:41a year or more
01:01:42in advance
01:01:43of their actual age.
01:01:45Now, I also
01:01:46identified
01:01:47exceptional
01:01:47mnemonic faculties.
01:01:49Please.
01:01:50Mnemonic?
01:01:51The ability to memorize.
01:01:53Oh, yes?
01:01:54Yes.
01:01:54They were potentially
01:01:55a very bright little couple.
01:01:57Senses all very well developed.
01:01:59Hearing, sight,
01:02:00coordination.
01:02:01No organic defects at all.
01:02:03No, I mean,
01:02:04they were a little
01:02:04highly strung,
01:02:05but that was only
01:02:06to be expected
01:02:06where they're a high mental age.
01:02:08Doctor, one moment, please.
01:02:10We've heard
01:02:11that you recommended
01:02:12that these children
01:02:12should be treated
01:02:13at a hospital
01:02:14for the subnormal.
01:02:15Now, is that correct?
01:02:17It is, yes.
01:02:18And yet,
01:02:18here you are now
01:02:19telling us that they
01:02:20were not subnormal.
01:02:21Quite the contrary.
01:02:22Potentially to the contrary.
01:02:24Don't let us get confused.
01:02:25Oh, but I am.
01:02:26Ah.
01:02:27Well, their behavior
01:02:28was far from normal.
01:02:30Both children
01:02:31were excessively
01:02:31disturbed, in fact.
01:02:33Negative and withdrawn.
01:02:35Incontinent.
01:02:36Capable of erratic
01:02:37outbursts,
01:02:38tantrums.
01:02:38Most, most disturbing.
01:02:39But not an organic
01:02:40disturbance.
01:02:41Nope, nope.
01:02:43Although they behaved
01:02:44subnormally,
01:02:45you decided
01:02:45that they weren't.
01:02:46Well, the pathogenesis
01:02:47was external,
01:02:49provoked by their environment.
01:02:50Surroundings.
01:02:51Ergo,
01:02:52by changing that environment,
01:02:54I hoped to relieve
01:02:55the condition.
01:02:56Yeah.
01:02:57Of course,
01:02:57I would have preferred
01:02:58to send them
01:02:58to one of the special schools
01:02:59which cater for this
01:03:00type of child,
01:03:01but unfortunately,
01:03:02at the time,
01:03:03the only vacancies
01:03:03were in the rehabilitation
01:03:04wing of the hospital.
01:03:05Yes, I see.
01:03:06Thank you, yes.
01:03:07So, in effect,
01:03:08their cure,
01:03:08as you saw it,
01:03:09was to get them
01:03:10away from their mother.
01:03:11Yes.
01:03:13Well, from what I could gather,
01:03:14she'd had a pretty
01:03:15disturbed childhood herself
01:03:16over strict parents,
01:03:18emotionally deprived.
01:03:20The result,
01:03:21the usual paradox,
01:03:23a craving for
01:03:24love and affection
01:03:25and yet inhibited
01:03:26against expressing it herself.
01:03:29Similarly,
01:03:30there emerged
01:03:30there were a lot
01:03:31of domestic tensions,
01:03:33cash worries,
01:03:34job problems.
01:03:35Cultural disparities.
01:03:37Welsh wife,
01:03:38Maltese husband.
01:03:40A lot of rowing
01:03:41going on in the home,
01:03:41even some violence.
01:03:43And there again,
01:03:45she herself tended
01:03:45to be very neurotic
01:03:46about the children.
01:03:48She had a fetish
01:03:48about cleanliness,
01:03:50discipline,
01:03:50their health.
01:03:51Almost unsatisfactory.
01:03:53You say neurotic,
01:03:54doctor.
01:03:54Would you go further
01:03:55and describe her behavior
01:03:56as psychotic?
01:03:58No,
01:03:59I would not.
01:04:00She was not psychotic?
01:04:01No.
01:04:02And then,
01:04:03when you examined her
01:04:04last month
01:04:04in the prison hospital,
01:04:06psychotic then?
01:04:08No.
01:04:09Disturbed,
01:04:10yes.
01:04:11Inclined to be depressed.
01:04:12Well,
01:04:13naturally,
01:04:13in view of the circumstances.
01:04:14But not psychotic?
01:04:16No.
01:04:17Delusions?
01:04:18Well,
01:04:20she denied
01:04:20that the twins were dead.
01:04:22However,
01:04:24yes,
01:04:25I concluded
01:04:27this was a conscious lie.
01:04:28she'd fixed on all this
01:04:31spiritual possession idea.
01:04:33Well,
01:04:33I mean,
01:04:33that was a natural extension
01:04:34to her cleanliness fetish,
01:04:36her thing
01:04:36about contamination.
01:04:40Yes,
01:04:40her thing about contamination.
01:04:42But it was apparent to me
01:04:43that she had fixed on
01:04:44this possession idea
01:04:45as a cover,
01:04:47as an excuse
01:04:48for her actions.
01:04:49as an excuse.
01:04:51Yes.
01:04:51And one which she was acting up
01:04:53for the benefit
01:04:54of her psychotherapist.
01:04:55She was acting it up.
01:04:58Thank you,
01:04:59Doctor.
01:05:02Dr. Beale.
01:05:06Oh.
01:05:06You did not examine
01:05:10Mrs. Pateri
01:05:11immediately after she was
01:05:12taken into custody
01:05:13last August.
01:05:14No,
01:05:14no.
01:05:15Hmm?
01:05:15Did you,
01:05:16Dr. Beale?
01:05:17No.
01:05:18No.
01:05:21In fact,
01:05:22you saw her
01:05:23only the once
01:05:24in the hospital.
01:05:25Yes.
01:05:26Yes?
01:05:26Mm-hmm.
01:05:27Yes.
01:05:29And that after
01:05:30she'd been under
01:05:30intensive treatment
01:05:32from Dr. Morton here
01:05:33for fully seven months.
01:05:34Hardly intensive.
01:05:35No.
01:05:3720 therapeutic sessions?
01:05:40Including the use
01:05:40of antidepressant drugs?
01:05:42An electroconvulsive therapy
01:05:44to combat mutism
01:05:45and retrospective amnesia?
01:05:46Well, perhaps, but...
01:05:47With respect, Doctor.
01:05:50I suggest you're basing
01:05:51a great deal
01:05:52on assumptions.
01:05:53And those formed
01:05:54nearly a year earlier
01:05:56when you were treating
01:05:56the children.
01:05:57Now, look, um...
01:05:59Yes, um,
01:06:01a minute, Doctor.
01:06:02Did Mrs. Pateri
01:06:03ever mention anything
01:06:04to you
01:06:05about her
01:06:05children sleep-talking?
01:06:08Well, um, certainly.
01:06:09When I visited her afterwards
01:06:10in the prison hospital...
01:06:11No, no, no, no, no.
01:06:12I mean before that,
01:06:12when she brought
01:06:14the twins to your clinic.
01:06:15No, she said
01:06:16they slept badly,
01:06:17were extremely restless,
01:06:18that was all.
01:06:19Really?
01:06:20Not that sleep-talking
01:06:21would have been so unusual.
01:06:23Oh, really?
01:06:25Well, from what we've
01:06:26heard from the accused
01:06:28and from an independent witness,
01:06:30the whole phenomenon
01:06:31sounds extremely unusual
01:06:33and perhaps relevant
01:06:34to this case,
01:06:35or at least to the accused's
01:06:36alleged delusions
01:06:37about the influence
01:06:40of the supernatural
01:06:41over her two children.
01:06:43Well, I mean...
01:06:44Really?
01:06:44No, no, no, no, no.
01:06:45Shouting and swearing
01:06:47and what was it?
01:06:48Blaspheming?
01:06:49Conversing in blasphemous?
01:06:50Words of the devil?
01:06:52Pleas for death
01:06:53and destruction
01:06:54is this usual
01:06:54in five-year-olds,
01:06:56in sleeping five-year-olds?
01:06:58Well, not usual, of course.
01:06:59Have you encountered it before
01:07:01amongst your young patients?
01:07:03Well, not in this specific form,
01:07:04but certainly sleep-talking.
01:07:06It's quite frequent
01:07:07among children
01:07:08who are under intense stress
01:07:09and quite simple to rationalise.
01:07:12Now, children,
01:07:13exposed to a very tense
01:07:14and disturbed home situation,
01:07:16that is a reality
01:07:17from which the infant mind
01:07:18would naturally seek to withdraw,
01:07:20as indeed the Spateri twins did.
01:07:23into silences
01:07:24and negative behaviour patterns.
01:07:26But, of course,
01:07:27their subconscious anxieties
01:07:29could well have found
01:07:30this vocal form of expression by night.
01:07:32Ergo, sleep-talking.
01:07:33Except, Doctor,
01:07:34that they seem to have been conversing,
01:07:36holding a conversation
01:07:37one with the other.
01:07:38Ah, but twins...
01:07:39Twins!
01:07:41A highly developed interrelationship,
01:07:43probably effective even at sleep levels.
01:07:45Ergo, mutual communication.
01:07:47Except again, Doctor,
01:07:48that they did so, we are told,
01:07:50in adult language,
01:07:52swearing and blaspheming.
01:07:53Well, both children were, of course,
01:07:54excessively disturbed.
01:07:56Yes, but adult, Doctor,
01:07:57far in excess of a maturity
01:07:58of five years old.
01:08:00Mental age of six or seven.
01:08:01Even so.
01:08:02And don't forget,
01:08:02these two spent almost
01:08:04their entire waking lives
01:08:05in front of the television set.
01:08:07It's the only way
01:08:07their mother could cope with them.
01:08:08So, now there you are,
01:08:11daily exposed to a mass
01:08:12of random information,
01:08:14much of it adult,
01:08:15and on the newscasts,
01:08:16concerning violence
01:08:17and destruction.
01:08:19Now, add to this,
01:08:20their high mnemonic faculties,
01:08:22memories.
01:08:23And there you have it.
01:08:25They absorbed all this
01:08:26random adult information by day.
01:08:29They had a need for expression by night.
01:08:31Voila.
01:08:31Oh, Doctor Beale,
01:08:33you disappoint me.
01:08:34Oh, really?
01:08:36You dispel illusions.
01:08:38If not the accused's delusions.
01:08:41Hey, Mr. Lotterby.
01:08:44Thank you, Doctor.
01:08:45As Dr. Morton has explained,
01:08:50Mrs. Spiteri's psychosis,
01:08:52though latent,
01:08:54would still have needed
01:08:54a situation of acute stress
01:08:57to bring it up.
01:08:59Now, ladies and gentlemen,
01:09:01you've seen for yourselves
01:09:02that this poor woman
01:09:04was clearly exposed
01:09:05to abundant stress.
01:09:08Financial worries.
01:09:09Twins increasingly ill.
01:09:11Rouse, even beatings
01:09:12from her husband.
01:09:12A foreign priest
01:09:14of an alien denomination,
01:09:15making her feel like
01:09:16a social and religious pariah.
01:09:18And then,
01:09:19then this horrendous phenomenon
01:09:22of a children's nightly sleep talking.
01:09:27Another factor
01:09:28guaranteed to confirm
01:09:30in her tormented mind
01:09:32the conviction
01:09:33that they were indeed
01:09:35possessed of demons.
01:09:37No wonder she had delusions.
01:09:40No wonder,
01:09:40and this is the crux
01:09:43of the matter.
01:09:46She believes
01:09:47that far from harming
01:09:50her beloved children,
01:09:52she saved them.
01:09:54But they're still alive.
01:09:57You heard the woman
01:09:58for yourselves.
01:10:00Lucid,
01:10:01cogent,
01:10:02articulate,
01:10:03pathetic,
01:10:04of course.
01:10:04no one is denying
01:10:05the tragedy
01:10:06of her circumstances.
01:10:08But do not let this
01:10:09confuse your judgment
01:10:10as to her true mental state.
01:10:14Do not let her deceive you
01:10:15with all this bizarre talk
01:10:17of saving her children
01:10:18from evil demons.
01:10:21Do not let her deceive you
01:10:23as she appears to have deceived
01:10:24her psychotherapist.
01:10:25this woman would have you believe
01:10:29that she thinks
01:10:29her children are still alive.
01:10:32But I put it to you
01:10:33that her attempted suicide
01:10:34in the prison hospital
01:10:36would suggest
01:10:36that she is fully aware
01:10:38of her children's death.
01:10:40As you know,
01:10:42members of the jury,
01:10:44you are not called upon
01:10:45to decide whether or not
01:10:46the accused is guilty
01:10:47of any crime.
01:10:49You are assembled here
01:10:50to decide
01:10:51whether she is capable
01:10:53of understanding the charge,
01:10:55instructing her lawyers,
01:10:56following the evidence.
01:10:57Now her counsel says
01:10:58that she isn't
01:10:59because she is suffering
01:11:00from the delusion
01:11:00that her children
01:11:02are still alive.
01:11:04Well this being so,
01:11:05he says again,
01:11:06how could she explain
01:11:07the circumstances
01:11:09of their death?
01:11:10whether it was intentional,
01:11:11whether it was an accident.
01:11:12And if,
01:11:13he says further,
01:11:14she cannot explain this,
01:11:16how then can she defend herself
01:11:17against the charge
01:11:18that she intentionally
01:11:19killed her children?
01:11:22Well,
01:11:22you may think
01:11:23there is some force in this.
01:11:25The prosecution contested.
01:11:28They say that she is
01:11:28perfectly well aware
01:11:29that her children are dead
01:11:30and that she is lying
01:11:31when she says she isn't.
01:11:33They say that she isn't
01:11:34and never was suffering
01:11:35from a mental disorder
01:11:37such as the defence claim.
01:11:38Well,
01:11:39you must decide.
01:11:41Now,
01:11:41in this trial,
01:11:42unusually,
01:11:44the onus is on the defence
01:11:45to prove,
01:11:47on the balance of probabilities,
01:11:49that the accused
01:11:50is unfit to plead.
01:11:52They must satisfy you
01:11:54of this.
01:11:55If they don't,
01:11:57then your verdict
01:11:58must be
01:11:59that the accused
01:11:59is fit to plead.
01:12:01will you now
01:12:03please retire,
01:12:04consider your verdict,
01:12:05let the jury bailiff
01:12:06be sworn.
01:12:11Members of the jury,
01:12:12will your foreman
01:12:12please stand?
01:12:14Just answer this question,
01:12:16yes or no.
01:12:17Have you reached a verdict
01:12:18upon which you are
01:12:19all agreed?
01:12:20Yes.
01:12:21Do you find the prisoner,
01:12:22Megwin Glynis Piteri,
01:12:24fit or unfit
01:12:25to plead to the charge
01:12:26of murder?
01:12:28Fit.
01:12:28Is that the verdict
01:12:29of you all?
01:12:30It is.
01:12:32Thank you,
01:12:32members of the jury.
01:12:34You are discharged
01:12:35from further duties
01:12:36in this case.
01:12:37I understand
01:12:38that next Monday
01:12:38will be a convenient date
01:12:39for the trial,
01:12:40so the hearing of the case
01:12:41is fixed for that date.
01:12:43Court will rise.
01:13:00for the trial,
01:13:00the trial is done.
01:13:02The trial is fixed ici,
01:13:02it is.
01:13:02Yes and the trial is fixed,
01:13:05and it is at the time
01:13:07that the trial is fixed.
01:13:09We shall see you
01:13:10in this case.
01:13:10All right.
01:13:12We shall see you
01:13:13in this case.
01:13:14It is.
01:13:15You
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