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  • 6/23/2025
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00:00Now, back to Stiney and Guru on 95.7 The Game.
00:05Risotto, do you not know I don't like heavy metal?
00:09Did somebody not tell you?
00:13You're like Metallica.
00:14Okay, I'm telling you now.
00:15Well, that's one of the reasons why I'm playing it.
00:18Okay.
00:20Noted.
00:21All right, it's crossover time.
00:24Let's welcome in Dan Dibley and Mark Willard.
00:26Hey, guys.
00:27What's going down?
00:28Hi, Stiney.
00:29Hey, hey.
00:30What's up, fellas?
00:30All right, Risotto.
00:31Maybe the music is for the listeners, not for you.
00:34Wow.
00:36Yeah.
00:37I think most of us are operating under the assumption that you can't hear anyway,
00:42especially during the crossover.
00:44Wow.
00:44Usually tune out.
00:46Now you're listening to that?
00:47I thought that was an age thing.
00:48I did, too.
00:49Yeah.
00:50It was, and then I saw your face, but you didn't like that.
00:53You know what?
00:54So I decided to switch it up a little longer.
00:55And you know what?
00:56Since you went that way.
00:59Yeah.
00:59Yeah.
00:59Hey, what'd you think of that game seven, Mark?
01:02Uh, it sucked.
01:02Game seven of the fight?
01:04Oh, what do you mean?
01:05It sucked.
01:05Okay.
01:06See, took advantage of injury.
01:07Got to tip your cap.
01:09Good for them.
01:10Yeah.
01:10Tip your cap.
01:11They're the best team all year.
01:12That doesn't resonate with me.
01:13What resonates with me is that it seems like half the league's legs are blowing up.
01:19And I find it actually bothersome because I'm very, very much of the opinion that it is,
01:27these are all overuse injuries, but I don't blame the overuse on, we keep blaming it on
01:32the playoff schedule, which has been the same for years.
01:35Years.
01:35I don't think, it's not the playoff schedule.
01:37It's the fact that these guys don't take breaks in the off season.
01:40They don't get away from the sport.
01:43And, uh, it, like, I don't know why I haven't been thinking about it like this more until
01:48now.
01:48I find it pretty bothersome that they will take more breaks during the season than players
01:54ever did before, but they won't take breaks in the off season.
01:57And, and that's what's leading to this.
02:00So, they're kicking their own butt twice.
02:03Actually, they're kicking their own butt and they're kicking our butt at the same time.
02:07Yeah.
02:08The fans get hosed and their bodies get hosed.
02:10And it's stupid.
02:11It's unproductive.
02:13Evan?
02:14I mean, it's tough because the guys who went down outside of Dame are all pretty young.
02:21Tatum's not very old.
02:22Right.
02:23Halliburton's 25.
02:24It just left me with such an empty feeling watching the remainder of that game.
02:30Like, I, I mean, I, once me and my brother saw the highlight, we just got up and cracked
02:36the cold one and like, took a lap.
02:38Like, it, it just wasn't, even, even if the Pacers had come back to win, I was just imagining
02:45how they're doing the finals MVP.
02:48Is it Halliburton?
02:49Is it not?
02:49He's on the stage.
02:50There's just something so anticlimactic about that ending.
02:54And for a player who's probably built more, I don't know, positive coverage for himself
03:00over the course of this postseason than anybody to get to the pinnacle of his profession and
03:03have it be the worst and best day of his life at the same time.
03:07I just, I don't know.
03:09It just hit me.
03:09Like, I, I felt like I was kind of cheated out of something.
03:13All of us.
03:13As a viewer.
03:14You know, I was at my brother-in-law's house and, you know, he had the outdoor pizza oven
03:18going.
03:19We're doing pizzas and salad.
03:21And my daughter, who's almost three, is running around and, you know, she's having fun and
03:25we're watching the game.
03:26Yeah.
03:27Inside.
03:27And all of a sudden it happens and he goes down.
03:30It's like, oh man.
03:31And, uh, Mike, who actually works for the NBA, you can go ahead and drop it again.
03:35And he comes in and he's like, oh boy.
03:38And we both sat there together and we watched it.
03:40It was like, oh my God.
03:42Like shivers, shivers.
03:44Cause you could see it on the replay.
03:45Like, who works for the NBA?
03:47Uh, my brother-in-law.
03:48Oh, brother-in-law.
03:50Yeah.
03:50Yeah.
03:50Yeah.
03:50My brother-in-law.
03:51Yes.
03:52My, uh, wife's sister's husband.
03:54Okay.
03:55What does he do?
03:56Uh, I can't reveal it.
03:58Oh, wow.
03:58He does like special projects.
04:00Like the CIA of the NBA.
04:01That's a lot of letters.
04:02He does like, uh, well, he's kind of a, uh, freelancer.
04:05He does special projects.
04:06He does like, you know, freelance video stuff.
04:09It's, it's actually incredible.
04:11Does he know any of the refs?
04:12Uh, no, but Scott Foster did not get the assignment, which I was, you know, that's because he's
04:16the extender and you can't extend that series.
04:19Right.
04:20It's literally impossible.
04:21You probably didn't see this because you don't actually, uh, you know, look at positive coverage
04:25of officials, but is there such a thing?
04:27Rick Carlisle was like, Scott Foster is awesome.
04:30Yeah.
04:30Yeah.
04:30No, I mean, I, he was defending them because everybody was getting all, all hot.
04:35And bothered about one particular game.
04:37Yeah.
04:37I saw that.
04:38Okay.
04:38No, I remember that.
04:39Yeah.
04:39No, I actually not even mad at the refs.
04:41What I'm mad at is, um, I guess the, you've seen this, uh, this, that you can't set a screen
04:48anymore in the NBA because when you do people just fly across the floor and fall and the
04:56refs fall for it every time.
04:58And I want to know why, why we can't get them like looking at that a little bit differently.
05:03Well, I mean, humongous men don't fall when you run into a screen, right?
05:08But at the same time, like the majority of the screens, if you take an NBA game and there
05:14are probably what?
05:16200 screens set.
05:17I would argue that 180 of them are illegal.
05:20Oh, and if you're moving, that's fine.
05:23What I, what I'm bothered by is the, the guy that goes sprawling five feet in the other
05:28direction as if somebody just catapulted him across the floor.
05:32And when you see that out of your corner of your eye, you call a foul.
05:36Lou Dort did this in the backcourt last night.
05:38Oh, I hated that play.
05:40It was an absurd call.
05:41And the only explanation is that the ref saw it out of the corner of his eye.
05:46So he called it.
05:47And it's like, you can't, I would love for the default to be, I didn't see it.
05:52I didn't see it.
05:53So I can't call it.
05:54So therefore, if somebody gets away with an illegal screen, fine.
05:57But if you fall, I feel like 92% of the time, the whistle blows and we're
06:02going the other way.
06:03And it's like, that's not what happened.
06:05That's all.
06:05I'm not mad at the refs.
06:06It's not their fault.
06:07You know who else did that?
06:08Who?
06:09Earlier in the postseason.
06:10Pods.
06:11Oh, Pods was horrible.
06:12Constantly.
06:13Constantly.
06:13That hair, that hair flies.
06:15And it's like.
06:16So a guy's running down the court.
06:18Yeah.
06:18And you just step in front of him.
06:21Yep.
06:21That to me is.
06:24Does it make you feel better?
06:25That should be a technical foul.
06:27I agree with you.
06:28I agree with you.
06:29Does it make you feel better that Pods gets as mad at the refs,
06:32as a fan, as he does as a player?
06:34I don't know if you watched the Valkyries game.
06:36I heard he was more subdued.
06:37Not much.
06:38Oh!
06:39His palms were up constantly in the second half of that basketball game,
06:42even though things were going very well.
06:45Yeah.
06:45Yeah.
06:45They're up by 20 the whole game.
06:46Right.
06:47He's still getting in there.
06:48At least he's not doing it to the other players now.
06:50Just the refs.
06:51Well, you mind if I do this?
06:52Just Caitlin once.
06:53That's true.
06:54Real quick non sequitur.
06:55Dibs, of your siblings, who's the most likely and least likely to listen to your show?
07:04Most likely Gail.
07:06Okay.
07:06Without a doubt.
07:08Least likely Doug.
07:09Okay.
07:10Where does Mike fit in?
07:12Clearly in the middle.
07:13Yeah.
07:13Mike is in the middle.
07:15There's only one more left.
07:16In the middle.
07:16Yeah.
07:17Mikey 2.0 is, you know, he's out and about.
07:20He's doing his thing, but, you know, I don't even know if he, like, would come across it
07:26unless I texted him.
07:29Why are you asking?
07:30I'm asking.
07:31Doug, no chance.
07:33I'm asking and I don't know.
07:34We used to call him the Una Brother, but go ahead.
07:36I like that.
07:36That's an amazing nickname.
07:38I don't even know if I get it, but I love it anyway.
07:41No, you remember the Una Bomber.
07:42No, I get that part.
07:44I don't know what he did to earn the Una Brother.
07:47Doug would just, like, live in a shack.
07:49Live in the Bay Area, and, like, he would be, like, 17 years in the garage, like, you
07:55would never hear from him.
07:57Ever.
07:58Okay.
07:58The Una Brother.
07:59I like that.
08:00Hurricane Gale, Una Brother, Mikey 2.0.
08:03Okay.
08:03Yeah.
08:03So, you know I golfed with Mikey 2.0 yesterday.
08:07Of course.
08:08He was in the foursome.
08:09Was he with you?
08:10He was in our foursome.
08:11And he was delightful.
08:14Was he?
08:14He was gregarious.
08:15Wait a minute.
08:16He was.
08:17Were you there?
08:18No, God, no.
08:19So, how do you know this?
08:20Because we have a thread on our golf tournament, which is coming up in three weeks, and part
08:26of the thread is, hey, you know, Sunday, blah, blah, blah.
08:30Yeah.
08:30We need eight.
08:31And people are like, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.
08:33And my brother, first dibs, he calls himself, which, whatever.
08:37He was never dibs until I was dibs.
08:39So, that's neither here nor there.
08:41All right.
08:42But he is, if you don't know him, gregarious, delightful, fun, friendly, outgoing, all the
08:50rest of it.
08:51It's like golfing with an animated Jim Nance.
08:56Hello, friends!
08:57I made the mistake once.
08:59So, I hit off, I hit a drive, and I'm like, ah, I didn't see it.
09:06He sees everything.
09:07Okay, you're off to the left.
09:08You see that path, that brown spot.
09:11You're right below that brown spot between those two shrubs.
09:14See the green shrub?
09:16And then the red shrub?
09:17Yeah, you just duck hooked it a little bit.
09:20Not a terrible shot, but I think you can get to the green from there.
09:24You sure you know where it is?
09:26Yeah, Mike.
09:27Yeah, Mike.
09:28Yeah, Mike.
09:30That's amazing.
09:31It sounds like he's a really fun round.
09:33He's helpful.
09:34He's very helpful.
09:35I've only met him once, and he was all the things that you just said.
09:39You met him once.
09:40I met him once.
09:41Yeah.
09:42He's also a pretty good golfer.
09:44Well, I mean, not to get too much into his golf game, but normally when you play golf,
09:52Evan, you set up and you put the club behind the ball, and the club is like, okay, the
09:59club is flat behind the ball.
10:01This man will close it.
10:03He's a lefty.
10:04He will close the club to where you look at it, and it's like, there's no way you can
10:08hit it like that.
10:10And he does.
10:11He's got a 100-pence swing at the golf club.
10:13Golf is that sport.
10:15We all have at least three friends who do stuff where you watch them line up for the ball,
10:20and you're like, there's absolutely no chance that this goes anywhere that you want it to
10:25go.
10:26And then sometimes it does.
10:28Golf is that sport.
10:29You can use completely bananas movements and somehow, someway, potentially make it work.
10:37Yeah.
10:37He's a...
10:39It was a lot of fun.
10:41All right.
10:41Don't try to...
10:42Good.
10:42Don't try to do that.
10:43Well, no.
10:43You're soon to be hyping it up.
10:45Yeah, that's the whole point, isn't it?
10:47I...
10:47A lot of times you...
10:48Close the steps, though.
10:49Close the steps.
10:50I've only played with him one other time, I think, and I can't really remember.
10:53Yeah.
10:54Well...
10:54And I just...
10:55I just...
10:57I mean, he...
10:58He introduced himself yesterday.
11:00He'll do that.
11:01Right.
11:01I remember that.
11:02For sure.
11:02Yeah.
11:03And I mean, I want to be fair and balanced and just say, I can't stand him.
11:08Well, like, you talk...
11:09You talk so much less on a course than him.
11:13Right.
11:13I just didn't expect it.
11:17Right.
11:17You know what I mean?
11:18You know?
11:19Yeah.
11:20Me on the course.
11:21You know, yeah.
11:22You and me, and like, oh, your ball, I'll help you find it.
11:24You'll help me.
11:25Whatever.
11:26It's like, we're playing golf.
11:27This man is a chatterbox.
11:30And, yeah.
11:32I'm good.
11:32Great guy, though.
11:33Yeah, sure.
11:33Kevin Durant.
11:35To the Rockets.
11:36What do you think?
11:36I think that the Rockets are suddenly in a pretty good spot.
11:41And I think the Phoenix Suns are this decade's cautionary tale.
11:46And Dibs will back me up on this.
11:48I told everybody in the world that they needed to trade him last offseason.
11:52And they didn't do it, even though it was the most obvious thing in the world.
11:55Instead, they doubled down, kissed his butt with a press conference,
11:58decided with new ownership that they were going to win,
12:01have three of the highest-priced players in the game,
12:04and didn't even make the play-in tournament.
12:06Which is beyond embarrassing.
12:09And now got completely fleeced on a deal for one of the best players in the NBA.
12:15I feel terrible for Devin Booker because he's awesome.
12:18He's not just an awesome player.
12:20He's an awesome dude.
12:21If you listen to the show with any regularity,
12:23you know my best friend in life is the voice of the Suns.
12:26Devin Booker is like...
12:28Who is it?
12:29He loves Devin Booker.
12:30John Bloom.
12:31You love John.
12:32Oh, is that Gambadura?
12:33What's that?
12:34What about Gambadura?
12:36What about Gambadura?
12:36I love Gambo, but I love John Bloom.
12:38Gambo's a radio guy in Phoenix.
12:40Yeah.
12:41Not the voice of the Suns.
12:42Oh, yeah.
12:43Anyway, whatever.
12:44I feel terrible for Devin Booker,
12:49and I have no idea what the Suns are going to be bad now for a while.
12:54Maybe you and I ought to make a bet,
12:56but first, you're listening to 95.7 The Game, KGM, ZFM, and HD1 San Francisco,
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13:12Not quite a guru bet, but I am going to need odds.
13:15So this is my bold...
13:18Unlikely, then.
13:18This is my bold hot take.
13:20Okay.
13:21Suns are winning it all next year.
13:22Or how many games did the Rockets win last year?
13:2552.
13:26Yeah.
13:27How many games did the Suns win?
13:2938?
13:2936.
13:3036.
13:3136.
13:31All right.
13:32Okay.
13:33I got the Suns winning more than 36 next year.
13:36Okay.
13:37And the Rockets winning less than 52.
13:40Ah.
13:41Mm-hmm.
13:42Hmm.
13:43That's a hot take.
13:44It's not that hot.
13:45It's not that hot.
13:46Oh, please.
13:47First of all, the Rockets winning less than 52.
13:48Then they didn't get fleeced.
13:50Yeah, they did.
13:50Well, then, how could they have gotten fleeced and then gotten better?
13:53Because what if they win 37 games and you're right and they still suck?
13:57They're still the...
13:57Like, who cares?
13:58Well, they're better.
13:59No.
14:00Yes.
14:01No.
14:01Stop being so, like...
14:03Life is not about X's and O's like that.
14:06That's like...
14:06You can't do that.
14:07That's my point.
14:08It's like, I don't necessarily think Durant to the Rockets...
14:12Well, now they're going to win 58.
14:13We all thought the Warriors were better two seasons ago than they were one season ago,
14:18but they won more games one season ago.
14:20They missed the playoffs entirely.
14:22Like, that's not a good marker.
14:25It's a regular season bet.
14:27The point is, is the Suns are in trouble for a long time.
14:30They have no direction now.
14:33This was done at the five second-round picks.
14:36That's a lot of picks.
14:36The Warriors know this.
14:38When you start doing a bucket of second-round picks, that means we don't know what else to do.
14:42They were involved in one of these.
14:43The James Wiseman deal.
14:45Don't let the Suns pluck a star at number 10.
14:50Okay.
14:50Don't let them.
14:51They won't.
14:52Because if they do...
14:54They might.
14:55What's his name's Fallen?
14:56Cedric Coward.
14:58Oregon's own.
15:00What's his name in...
15:01No, this guy went to Willamette.
15:03Yeah.
15:03His first year.
15:04No, he's rising up the boards.
15:06Whatever.
15:07Top 10, yeah.
15:07No, Houston and Phoenix are...
15:09Is it just whatever me?
15:10Keep an eye out.
15:10Yeah.
15:11No.
15:11Well, yeah.
15:12Well, yeah.
15:13Yeah.
15:13Whatever in Willamette.
15:14How about this?
15:15Willamette.
15:15I'm starting to get a little something here.
15:17Keep an eye out.
15:17All right.
15:18So I tell Willard...
15:19Yeah.
15:19Yeah.
15:21The Rockets, I don't think are going to win 52.
15:24Suns are going to win more than 36.
15:27He's got a problem with the whole premise.
15:29I don't want the bet.
15:30You will offer him as a bet.
15:32That's fine.
15:32That's all.
15:33I don't want the bet.
15:34That's fine.
15:35Okay.
15:35But you kind of denigrated the whole concept.
15:40I don't think it means what you're saying it means.
15:43I don't live black and white like, that means the Suns are better.
15:46No, it doesn't.
15:47If the Phoenix Suns win one more game next year than they do this year, and they win one
15:53more game the following year, they're going to be a 60-win team, Mark, in 2040.
15:58It doesn't happen overnight.
16:01Right.
16:02Yeah.
16:02If you think that this was not the Suns putting their tail between their legs and leaving the
16:07party, I don't know what to tell you.
16:08But, Stine, if the Rockets win 50 games in the regular season.
16:12All right.
16:13But they make it to the second round.
16:15Okay.
16:15Were they worse than last year?
16:18During the regular season.
16:19Good job, Evan.
16:20Right.
16:20I'm just saying, like, that's why Durant is in Houston.
16:25That's why they wanted to bring him to Houston.
16:26Okay.
16:27I'm a little more with Willard.
16:28Well, they better get further than the second round.
16:31Well, all they have to do is get further than the first round, because that's where they
16:36got eliminated this season.
16:37Right.
16:37In order to get better.
16:39In order to get better.
16:40But, they can't do it incrementally.
16:44Why not?
16:45Because they just acquired a 37-year-old guy.
16:49They got to skip a step with him now.
16:51Well, they think they have action.
16:53That's why they went and got him.
16:54They also didn't have to.
16:55They gave up a player that they clearly didn't believe in long-term, and the 10th pick, which
16:59doesn't help them this season.
17:01I told you I can't really.
17:02Brooks is probably the biggest loss, honestly.
17:05Culture.
17:05Of that deal.
17:06Yeah.
17:07I think.
17:07I mean, for Desmond Bain to go for four first-round picks and a pick swap, and Kevin
17:13Durant goes for one first-round pick, that tells you all you need to know about the position
17:18Phoenix was in.
17:19I get that Kevin's older, but give me a break.
17:23Phoenix was optionless.
17:26They were totally, totally stuck.
17:28And ownership and poor executive maneuvers ran that thing into the floor.
17:34Hired the wrong coach.
17:35Made the wrong moves.
17:36Held on to the wrong people.
17:38Totally, totally got exposed, and they're in trouble for a long time.
17:41Well, they had no choice.
17:42And we talked last year at this time, and you said, there's no way they can keep all
17:46three of these guys.
17:47And I said, well, they can.
17:48And they did.
17:49And they did.
17:51And it didn't work out.
17:52And now they're paying for it.
17:53And now they're paying for it.
17:54Because now, you know, KD's going to be 37 in September.
17:57And now you're in a spot where you have to do something.
18:00And you won't trade Booker.
18:02And you can't trade Beal because somehow he has a no-trade clause.
18:05Incredible.
18:06You might trade Booker because Booker might call you tomorrow and say, get me the hell
18:10out of here.
18:10Right.
18:11But there's not enough basketballs on the team.
18:12I got to go.
18:13So, I mean, now he's got the basketball.
18:17So, I mean, Houston, did they get better?
18:20Yeah, they got better.
18:21But did they get better enough?
18:23We'll see.
18:24And, you know, it depends on how those pieces work around KD.
18:28And now you don't have Jalen Green, who I think is a little bit Kaminga-esque in terms
18:34of in three to five years, he's going to be better than he is now.
18:38But right now, Houston needs him to be their, like, their one or their 1B.
18:43And he's not that guy.
18:45Do any of you guys remember what the Warriors would have had to give up for KD?
18:50I know Kaminga was a part of it.
18:52Yep.
18:53Do we, do we, Wiggins, I think, had to go, too.
18:55Of course.
18:56They had to match the money.
18:57Wiggins, Kaminga, and multiple firsts, I think.
19:01Two or three.
19:02I try to find that.
19:03I mean, it, it.
19:04Because it might have been a three-way trade, too, that convolutes it a little bit.
19:08A lot more than they gave up for Jimmy.
19:10A lot more.
19:11Right, right.
19:11Yeah.
19:12But what I'm getting at is, would you rather have Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks or Kaminga
19:18and Wiggins?
19:20I might rather take Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks.
19:24Nah.
19:25Oh, you're talking about, like, looking at it from Phoenix's side of things.
19:29Yeah.
19:30Like, I don't think they got raked over the coals.
19:33No, I think it's something that they, to Dib's point, like, they had to trade him.
19:38I mean, he's going to be an expiring, had no interest in signing.
19:42From everything that people were reporting, he had all the power in where he decided to
19:45go.
19:46So it was between Houston, San Antonio, and Miami.
19:50And Houston pulled the trigger.
19:52I mean, I don't think it's, I don't think it's nothing.
19:54Like, I wouldn't say they got fleeced, but compared to what they had to give up for
20:00them, which was four unprotecteds, McHale Bridges and Cam Johnson, that's not exactly a great
20:04return.
20:05Yeah.
20:06All right.
20:06Lastly.
20:08Oh.
20:08Get this, Willard.
20:09Lastly, at 207?
20:11Yeah, we've got one more thing to discuss.
20:12Okay.
20:13Yeah, go ahead.
20:13Really, really long topic.
20:15Sure.
20:17Well, anyway.
20:18The conversation could just end by its own volition.
20:20It could.
20:20At 209.
20:21It could.
20:21It could stretch on purpose.
20:24Willard, what do you think of, you know, we've had six days to absorb Rafi Devers.
20:28What do you think of that Giants lineup with him in it?
20:31It was better.
20:32Yeah, Evan says it's the same.
20:33Have fun, guys.
20:34He says the same offense.
20:35That's too short of a conversation.
20:37Yeah.
20:37Well, you guys continue.
20:38It did not die.
20:39No, you guys continue.
20:40It didn't die on its own volition.
20:42No, I'm not leaving.
20:43I'm just saying.
20:44It starts with your opinion.
20:45No, it's not my opinion.
20:47It's Evan.
20:47No, you threw it out.
20:49What do you think?
20:50Yeah, why don't you let Evan speak?
20:51Speak for himself, by the way.
20:53I don't trust you right now with the way you deliver.
20:55So what's the question?
20:56The question is.
20:57You asked the question.
20:58But I didn't care to answer.
21:00Is the question?
21:02That thing's a band box.
21:03They need to move the fences back.
21:05Your thoughts?
21:07My thought is, you know, the Giants.
21:13Not yesterday.
21:14You didn't watch it.
21:15It's okay.
21:15I watched the whole.
21:17Hey, dibs.
21:18Hey, Matt.
21:18Hey, dibs.
21:19Hey, Matt.
21:19Don't do this.
21:20Then give me a take.
21:22Who were the three Giants to Homer yesterday?
21:25Let's hear it.
21:26That ball got Schmidt on.
21:27Who always does.
21:28Yep.
21:29Ramos.
21:30Yep.
21:31And Yaz.
21:31Nope.
21:32Wrong.
21:33Thanks for watching the game.
21:34Hold on.
21:34Oh, Yaz homered the day before.
21:36No, he didn't.
21:36You were right about Yaz.
21:38You were wrong about Ramos.
21:39He did not homer yesterday.
21:40Must have been.
21:41No, he did.
21:41Big extra base hit yesterday.
21:43Now, you missed the homer.
21:44Yeah, Willie.
21:45No, you missed the Adamus homer late in the game.
21:47That's what you missed.
21:48Nail in the coffin.
21:49Yeah.
21:50That's right.
21:51Yeah.
21:51That's right.
21:51That's a clutch homerun.
21:52Made it go from 8 to 5 to 9 to 5.
21:55That's when the Sox knew they weren't coming back.
21:57Well, what that does?
21:58How's Duvall a save?
21:59What's that?
22:00That's right.
22:00That's right.
22:01That's right.
22:02Not a save situation for Duvall.
22:04He was pointing at Duvall when he rounded second base.
22:06The lineup is better.
22:08When Chappie, as you like to call him, when Chappie comes back and Schmitty goes to second,
22:17then the lineup is better.
22:19So, yes, for now, is the lineup better?
22:21I mean, maybe.
22:22It's already better.
22:23It's already better.
22:24It'll be much more better coming up.
22:28More better, cheese and cheddar.
22:30Especially if Casey Schmidt can get some consistency going and become their second baseman.
22:35Well, there's a vacancy.
22:36He's got the third highest OPS on the team right now.
22:40Yeah.
22:41I mean, that's a problem.
22:42Smaller sample.
22:43That's a problem.
22:44But, yeah, he's on one right now, which is great.
22:47No, he's swinging more pitches in the zone.
22:48Looks a lot more comfortable.
22:50It's just my point earlier was watching the first week with Devers, and granted it's been
22:54six games, they kind of look like the same team, which is a good team.
22:59But they're going to be dependent on how well they pitch, how well their bullpen plays, and
23:06how many late game knocks they can get.
23:09Devers gives you more chances to do that, but I guess I just, I was hearing all last week
23:14about how it's going to be transformative, and it's going to be this huge thing.
23:18And I understand he's a great hitter, but they didn't look markedly different to me.
23:23I would argue, if you want to play a small sample, a game like yesterday was the game
23:29that the Giants were incapable of winning for much of the season, where a little bit of a
23:33score fest kind of breaks out.
23:35And you're ahead, and then you fall behind, and then you're ahead, and then you fall behind.
23:39And that's the kind of game that they normally can't keep up.
23:43But they did, and I'm not going to give that all to Devers.
23:46He was involved in it.
23:47I get it.
23:48He had a walk and a hit.
23:50But, you know, like, yes, no matter who your lineup is, you're going to be dependent on
23:56pitching well, and having a good bullpen, and all of those things.
24:01I just think that for the first time in a long time, it feels, it's not even so much about
24:06the results yet.
24:07It feels, when you get to the middle of the order, like there's actually a middle of the
24:11order.
24:12I think he makes Ramos much more dangerous.
24:15There you go.
24:15There you go.
24:16Like, watching, I forget which inning it was, I was telling Sonny, it's like when they got
24:19second and third, and Devers is coming up with less than two outs, naturally it's, well,
24:25it's okay, we can pitch around and we can walk him.
24:27And I think they ended up walking him.
24:28They did.
24:29But, then it's not a nobody behind Devers.
24:33It's Ramos.
24:35You can't just walk Devers.
24:37Because Ramos is going to make you pay.
24:40Whereas before, it's like, behind, Ramos would have been in the Devers spot, and behind
24:44him is Yaz, or Schmidt when he's not four for four, or, you know, or Tyler Fitzgerald.
24:51Sure, sure, sure.
24:52So, they are able to make other teams pay with the guys surrounding Devers, as opposed
24:58to he himself, like, really doing everything.
25:02It's all right.
25:03Stiney?
25:04I'm with you.
25:06Yeah.
25:07You don't even know what he just said.
25:09It's 211.50.
25:1151.
25:1252.
25:13Nice.
25:14Like, Mark, what you don't understand is...
25:16You going to play with Mikey 2.0 right now, or what?
25:20I'm not doing anything.
25:22I'm just saying...
25:22What did you shoot, by the way?
25:2586.
25:26But...
25:27Now you know why he's acting this way.
25:29How about Mikey?
25:30He's, I don't know, 81, 80, something like that.
25:35Yeah, all right.
25:37Now, Mark, now I will stay...
25:38Doing the crossover with you is like going to dinner with a teenager.
25:42It was on their phone the entire time.
25:44Dad, I mean, can you hurry up and get the check?
25:46It's like, dude, do you know that there are other people in the room talking to you right
25:49now?
25:49Do you even know?
25:51We're here.
25:52Dad, if I can't get dessert, can we just go home?
25:54They were sitting here talking, and the entire time you're packing up like you're leaving
25:57for vacation.
25:59Let me know when you're done.
26:00I'm never done.
26:01Never.
26:01You should know that by now.
26:02Trust me, yeah, that's not a game you want to play.
26:04I ain't never done, okay?
26:06And another one.
26:08The DJ Khaled in this station.
26:10And another take.
26:10Exactly.
26:11Yeah.
26:12What does that mean?
26:12That means he goes on and on to the break of break of dawn on 95.7.
26:17The game.
26:18The game.
26:19You're welcome.
26:20All right.
26:20He was in our foursome.