The Jeremy Kyle Show - 4th March 2019

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00:00You're watching On Demand. Please check the closing time before trying to vote or enter any competition or other interactivity in this programme, as it may not count and you may still be charged.

00:10On today's show, James is here as a grandfather to demand custody of his granddaughter, as he says his daughter and her boyfriend are unfit parents.

00:21Has he attacked your daughter?

00:22Yes, he got charged, then he got the offer.

00:24I went out of the flat, police were in the bedroom, and her face was all bruising out of here.

00:30I want nothing else to Davey use, because I've completely ruined my life.

00:37Do you, as a woman, think that is acceptable?

00:40Yeah, he made a mistake. He went from it.

00:43You are a liar.

00:45It's you, you're not...

00:46Get away from him.

00:47I've made a mistake once.

00:48I made my mistake.

00:51How did you hit it?

00:53I had to punch them.

00:54How many times?

00:55To a few.

00:56And it was not just a punch, was it, Harry?

00:58You throttled her.

01:00I've been missed.

01:01You spat my face.

01:01I've been missed.

01:02And you eat buttered her.

01:03That's what the police tell me.

01:07I want to...

01:07How many, Jeremy?

01:08Guy picks cocaine over his kid.

01:10This is a guy who doesn't pay.

01:10This is a guy who's aggressive and violent.

01:12I don't want this guy in my life.

01:14No.

01:14You told my team.

01:15I pick cocaine over my kid.

01:18Yes, I do.

01:19And that's the bottom line, Jeremy.

01:20Good morning and a big, big welcome to our final vault show of the week.

01:28Well, we're looking back at some of the most shocking stories of last year

01:32before those fantastic brand-new JK shows start.

01:34Monday morning at 9.25.

01:36Tell your friends, I promise you, you will not want to miss them.

01:39First up today, though, is James,

01:40who came to the show to confront his daughter and her boyfriend, Harry.

01:44Now, this family feud was, by my standards, by anybody's standards,

01:47a complete shocker.

01:49Unlock the vault.

01:53How much must you care to come on national television

01:56and say that your daughter is an unfit mother?

02:00I wouldn't say that she was an unfit mother.

02:03She's a brilliant mother.

02:05But...

02:05When she's not around him.

02:07Harry.

02:08Yep.

02:09This man...

02:10I welcomed this man into my house almost two years ago.

02:15And at the start, I thought he was a real decent chap.

02:20Until I started finding out that he wouldn't get out of his bed to go and sign on.

02:28He's...

02:28Not that he'd get out of bed and look for a job.

02:30Tell me if I'm wrong with that.

02:32Well, I took him for a job interviews and that.

02:34But, um...

02:35Obviously unsuccessful.

02:36What turned for you was the way he talked to her and treated her, right?

02:40Yep.

02:41Has he attacked your daughter physically?

02:42Yes.

02:43And he got charged and found guilty of it.

02:45She then gets pregnant at 16.

02:47I was at a family funeral and my phone went.

02:50I was at the wake.

02:52And, uh...

02:53I took the phone call.

02:56And it was my wife, Diane.

02:58And she says, uh...

02:59Kersey's thinking of leaving.

03:01I says...

03:02Kersey's thinking of leaving.

03:04What for?

03:05She's scared in case when you come home you're going to shout at her.

03:08I says, but shout at her for what reason?

03:12What would be the reason behind it?

03:14She says, well, she's pregnant.

03:17I went, you're what?

03:19And I went, uh, yeah...

03:21And I sat on my face, drained.

03:23I've got a statement from Diane, your wife.

03:25Kersey's mum.

03:26Harry has brainwashed my daughter.

03:28She's messed up her career and future because of him and their family.

03:32Harry's mum's house is disgusting, full of mould,

03:34and definitely not an environment fit for a child.

03:37I don't recognise my daughter anymore.

03:39She's called me the most disgusting names,

03:41claimed me and her dad attacked her,

03:43and now has banned us from seeing our granddaughter.

03:46I do so hope this can be resolved today,

03:48as I love my daughter and I want to be part of her life.

03:50This is devastating for you.

03:52Yeah, yeah.

03:54Kersey's...

03:55He didn't even tell you when she went into labour, did she?

03:58No, that was him.

04:00Kersey's told me and my wife, me and her mum,

04:04that, well, the day that he assaulted her,

04:11the police phoned me at 20 to 8 on a Sunday morning.

04:17And I go up, I answer the phone, it was the police.

04:19Could you make your way down to your daughter's flat?

04:22I says, um, hold on, what's going on?

04:26He says, there's been an incident.

04:28You'll need to come down.

04:29And so we flew down to our flat.

04:33And I went into the flat.

04:35Police were in the bedroom.

04:37Keris was sitting in the bed,

04:39and her face was all bruising out here.

04:41And I went, I don't believe this.

04:43I says, what in the...

04:44What in the hell has happened?

04:47I says, well, we've put a warrant out for the arrest of Harry.

04:52He's assaulted your daughter.

04:53He was convicted for assault against this man's daughter,

04:58and within two minutes of the court case finishing,

05:00she went back to him.

05:02She says, you're a controller,

05:05you treated her like a prisoner,

05:06you wanted her to have an abortion,

05:08and when she was 14, you punched her lights out.

05:10I'm just giving you, because I want her out.

05:12I want you two to talk.

05:13I respect you for being on this show.

05:16I think it's fantastic.

05:17Let's get her out.

05:17You do what you've got to do, all right?

05:19I'm just the man in the middle.

05:20Keris is on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.

05:23I want nothing else today with yous.

05:30Yous have completely ruined my life.

05:32Yous are meeting Angela Clay, a bad person.

05:35She's been there for me more than yous ever have.

05:40Keris, welcome to the show.

05:41That's what the lies for.

05:42Can I ask you a question?

05:44When you were growing up, sweetheart,

05:45when you were 12, 13,

05:47when you imagined your life,

05:49when you imagined what your life would be like

05:52with maybe a man or a family,

05:53did you imagine for one second

05:56that that bloke would think it acceptable

05:59to cave your head in,

06:01so badly so that the police have a record

06:04for his violence towards you?

06:06That is a question.

06:08Do you, as a woman, think that is acceptable?

06:11Yeah.

06:12He made a mistake.

06:13He learned from it.

06:13So I...

06:14Why, if that's the decision you've made,

06:17do you then turn against your parents so badly?

06:32I turned against them before it even happened.

06:33Why?

06:34Rubbish.

06:35They've put me through hell.

06:36Absolute rubbish, Keris.

06:37Absolute rubbish, Keris.

06:38Stop lying.

06:38You're the one that's lying.

06:39No, I'm no lying.

06:41How did they put you through hell?

06:43How did they put you through hell?

06:44How did they put you through hell?

06:46Why?

06:47Rubbish.

06:48They've put me through hell.

06:50Absolute rubbish, Keris.

06:52Stop lying.

06:53You're the one that's lying.

06:54No, I'm no lying.

06:56How did they put you through hell?

07:0015 for 16th birthday.

07:02I had to go stay with my nana for two months.

07:05They got arrested because they had assaulted me.

07:07Absolute rubbish.

07:09Why did you go to the solicitor?

07:11Why did you go to the court

07:13and tell them that we never touched you?

07:15I never.

07:16Because we never laid a hand on you. I have it on record that you made an allegation against your parents. Actually when you were 14, not 16. They were taken to custody for 12 hours. They were released without any charge or a blemish on their record because you made a statement to the authorities saying you'd made it up. True or false? False. False. That's what he said. Well, I didn't make up. Why would I make up if somebody hit me?

07:44Why was it dropped then? No, no. Why was it dropped then? Because I had to go stay with my nana and she talked me into dropping the charges so I could move back in with them. Why would you move back in with people who beat you up? Well, I had to. My nana couldn't look after me. Why can't you just have Harry and then have a relationship with your parents? Why can't you have them both? Because I'm not having a relationship with them after everything they've done. After everything we've done? What's that? Stalking, following Angie or what? Saying her house is disgusting.

08:13It is. And that's the truth. No, it's not. Really, if that's the case. Is that what the social worker have said? No. Why did you phone social services on your own? I phoned social services because we got extremely concerned when Carys went back to his mother's. Is that where you live? Yeah. With your baby? Yeah. Yeah. And the house is. Why wouldn't you let your parents see their grandchild? Because they phoned the social work and police. You only know. Because they're concerned about the state of the house. What's the name of Harry's mum? Is that Angela?

08:43My son had said Angela says that James needs to leave Carys and my son alone is a bully and a control freak. And we've all had enough. Him and his wife are only trying to gain custody of Brooklyn for benefits because they're in so much debt.

08:54It's disgusting that a father would call social services to make false allegations that they're bad parents. They live with me and I see it firsthand just how good they are. James needs to back off for good and let them be parents.

09:06Why do you hate your dad so much? He's put me through hell, Jeremy. He's been fighting to get my daughter taken off me. What sort of father is that supposed to be? I wouldn't even class him as a father anymore. I'm not even trying to get Brooklyn taken off you. He did come here saying he wanted full custody. Only if I couldn't get this sorted out I was going to go through a solicitor.

09:30That's you in the past. Look at that photo. Yep. What happened, guys? Can't you be with Harry and have a relationship with your parents?

09:40I'll tell you what's going on. I can't be in a relationship with Harry and be in a relationship with them because if I'm in a relationship with Harry, they just kick off and they make everything ten times worse.

09:50Listen. They cause arguments. You want to be with a man that beats you up, fair enough.

09:55Oh, you can't say much. You bet your wife. At the end of the day. Aye. Have you ever beaten your wife up?

10:02No. You're a liar. That's my wife. You're a liar. My wife hit me two or three times, but I never.

10:09Oh, you went back to her, didn't you? Because you and Emma May were there. That's why.

10:17Question. Why did you come here if you have absolutely no reason or thought that you might put this right? Why did you come here?

10:24Because he wouldn't have left it.

10:29After the break, more people involved in this feud do not go anywhere and come in right back in three, my friends.

10:34I've made a mistake once.

10:35I've made a mistake.

10:36We've lived for it and we've moved on.

10:38You need to do the same.

10:39I've made a mistake.

10:42You've made a mistake.

10:43I've made a mistake.

10:44Shut up.

10:44Is that why you...

10:45Everybody does it.

10:45Go and shut your trap.

10:46He's moving my father.

10:50You've wanted for nothing in this life with me.

10:53Wanted for nothing.

10:54Sure.

10:54Until you met that piece of garbage sitting there.

10:57Aye.

11:09You think my job's normal?

11:22Stop playing very big boys.

11:24What the world does look terrible.

11:33I am not a moron and I do not appreciate being treated like one.

11:37He's a deceitful lion.

11:39He's going to...

11:40No one believes that I'm getting a tattoo of Jeremy and Steve.

11:47All you need to do is Dan will apologise for it.

11:55He might Dan will grow up.

11:57That's it.

11:57Oh yeah.

11:59He's a deceitful lion.

12:07Welcome back to our shocking story special where we've reopened the JK vault.

12:14We're looking back at some of our biggest bust-ups this last year.

12:17Before those explosive brand new shows kick off Monday morning at 9.25.

12:21You do not want to miss them that earlier.

12:22We were watching James and daughter Karis.

12:25Let us see my friends what happens next.

12:27Open that vault.

12:27Can I just ask the audience, the great believer in the great British public and their view,

12:36how many people think that this grandfather is what he appears to be,

12:40which is a father and a grandfather who's concerned and is doing the right thing?

12:44Put your hand in the air.

12:49What's their opinion?

12:50I'm not trying to upset you.

12:51I'm just trying to ask you.

12:52We've got you all the support in the world, but I can't...

12:54I'm sure he's a pain in the backside.

12:56Every father is.

12:57I'd get things wrong the whole time, but I believe his motivation is good.

13:00And I'm telling you categorically whether anybody at the side says to me or she's 17.

13:03Well, if you're 17, I'm sure you have to be handled differently.

13:06But also at 17, you've made a choice.

13:08You've made a choice to live with a man who beats you up.

13:11Now, you might call that a mistake.

13:13I absolutely, as a father, understand James' concerns.

13:17His concerns for his daughter, his concerns for his granddaughter.

13:21Caitlin, why is Caitlin coming out before Harry?

13:24Because she's helped me through everything.

13:25But Harry's central to this.

13:29Do you and her have to speak for him or do you want me to get him out next?

13:32What would you prefer?

13:34I'm not bothered.

13:35Caitlin's on the Jeremy Cowell Show.

13:37Give him a round of applause.

13:44All right?

13:46What's your view of this?

13:49Basically, first thing I want to say is, why, if you claimed that you did not attack

13:56Keris, then why did she come up to my house that day bawling her eyes out?

14:02Did she come up to your house bawling her eyes out when her head was caved in by her

14:05boyfriend?

14:06Yes, she did.

14:06It's got a police record.

14:07Right.

14:07Yes, she did.

14:08And is there a police record against her boyfriend?

14:10Yes.

14:10And is there a police record against her parents?

14:12I'm not sure.

14:13No, there isn't.

14:14It's just a sympathy act.

14:15That's what he looks like.

14:16That's a sympathy act.

14:18I was brought up, Jeremy, to believe that you tell people as is.

14:23Yep.

14:23You tell them the truth straight down the middle.

14:26All right, let's turn it around on you.

14:27You don't like her boyfriend, you don't approve of her boyfriend, but you face losing your

14:31daughter forever if you don't accept her choices.

14:34If she wants to stay with him, that's her choice.

14:38As an outsider, Caitlin, you said something that's quite interesting.

14:41And again, James, everybody has to have their chance.

14:44Caitlin, you said that as an outsider, you've looked in and they're good parents, Harry and

14:49her.

14:49Yeah, they are.

14:50As a woman, let me put the same to you.

14:52He's been convicted for caving the side of her head in with his fists.

14:56How do you feel about that?

14:59As a friend, would you want her to be around a man that can do that?

15:03Everyone makes mistakes, if I'm honest.

15:07Some people leave their car on a double yellow line.

15:10Some people tell a little lie.

15:11Some people are late for work.

15:13Some people, I don't know.

15:16Not many men think it's acceptable to cave in the side of their partner's head and get

15:21away with it.

15:22I don't think it was acceptable.

15:23That's what the frustration is.

15:25That's very painful.

15:31Harry says they've got non-stop issues with James.

15:33I've done nothing to him.

15:34He's just mad.

15:36He doesn't like the fact that I'm with his daughter and he's a useless father, unlike

15:39me, who's a good father.

15:40Harry's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.

15:49It's you, young snub.

15:50Get away from him.

15:51I've made a mistake once.

15:52I've made a mistake.

15:53We've led for it and we've moved on.

15:55You need to do the same.

15:58I've made a mistake.

15:59I've made a mistake.

16:00I've made a mistake.

16:01Shut up.

16:01Is that why you...

16:02Go and shut your trap.

16:03Tell me what happened with you and Kereshten.

16:05Come on.

16:05Well, we were having a...

16:06Sorry?

16:07We were having a get-together in our house with a couple of friends and then we had

16:11been drinking and we started arguing and it got out of hand.

16:14How did you hit her?

16:15I punched her.

16:17How many times?

16:18Two or three, but...

16:20And you went to court?

16:21Yeah.

16:21Did you give evidence against him?

16:22Yeah.

16:23Good girl.

16:24And you got a record?

16:25Yeah.

16:25And he's still doing his community service, so...

16:28Are you surprised that she forgave you?

16:31Oh, go and shut your trap.

16:33Why are you being rude to your father?

16:34Because he's not even my father.

16:37Well, then he thought of rubbing...

16:39You've wanted for nothing in this life with me.

16:47Wanted for nothing until you met that piece of garbage sitting there.

16:52And it wasn't just a punch, was it, Harry?

16:55You throttled her.

16:57I didn't even throttle her.

16:57You spat on her face.

16:58I didn't even spit on her.

16:59And you eat butter on her.

17:00No, that's what the police tell me.

17:02Well, I didn't even spit on her.

17:03So you head butted her, yeah?

17:04I wouldn't.

17:07And you strangled her, yeah?

17:09I didn't strangle her.

17:09But you throttled her, didn't you?

17:10No.

17:13The thing is, right, even if I could accept that you did it once,

17:17as a father, if you were going out with one of my daughters,

17:22I'd feel exactly like him, and I'm just being honest.

17:25Yeah, I get that.

17:26No, you've done it once.

17:27Has every right.

17:28A little castle to forgive you.

17:30In her mind, that's fine.

17:31I'm going to tell you one thing.

17:32Just as an outsider, OK?

17:36I get why you lash out, because they're telling you the truth,

17:40and you don't want the truth.

17:41Your head is in the sand, and you and Harry are going to...

17:44No, the truth is the fact they're trying to get my daughter taken off me.

17:46I don't blame them, darling.

17:47Ay, you's are.

17:47You're a nutty daddy.

17:49No, we're not.

17:49Ay, you are.

17:50I says, if we had to.

17:52Say Brooklyn is 17.

17:5616, yeah?

17:57You're, by that point, 33.

17:59Her boyfriend, who she loves, and has known a few weeks, caves her head in, throttles her, and headbutts her.

18:10As a mother, answer me this.

18:13How would you feel if she went back to him?

18:16Go on.

18:16It would be her choice.

18:17And therein is how I've changed doing this show, because I'm not going to stand here and shout or rant and rave.

18:26I'm going to tell you this.

18:28Of course you're going to say that, because you're 17.

18:31And of course he's going to say that, because he's 57.

18:34But I want you to know something, sweetheart, in the nicest possible way.

18:38When you're no longer 17, you won't think like that.

18:42And when you get to a certain point, that low life will not be enough for you.

18:46And I don't care whether you...

18:47He's not low life.

18:47Yes, he is.

18:48No, he's not.

18:49He's doing community service for beating you up.

18:52And you trust him, your daughter.

18:56I get...

18:58Everybody's got their own opinion.

18:59Of course.

19:00I mean, here's me, like, thinking, if it's about the kid, we should be trying to do something to make sure the child's all right.

19:10But I've got, you know, your mate in the middle saying you're great parents, and you make the point, which I acknowledge, that social services have signed you off.

19:18My point is this.

19:20Can't your parents have a relationship with your daughter?

19:23No.

19:25We can help that happen.

19:28Don't...

19:28Don't look antes, yo.

19:29That's your choice, yeah?

19:31You know when they say things happen organically, James?

19:33Look at me.

19:34You know when things happen organically?

19:36You and I know what'll happen.

19:37This audience know what'll happen.

19:39Let her experience it, and then be there to save her.

19:41That's it.

19:41That's all you can do, because you're going to sit there and be slagged off.

19:44They won't need to save me.

19:45I don't need them, and I'll never need them.

19:47Just like I'll never need his stupid, pathetic wife.

19:50That's your mother.

19:52She's not my mother.

19:53One day you will look back on this, and you will feel shame that you spoke like you did.

19:57But I absolutely accept, in my new, very calm way, that that's your right.

20:02Because you're 17, and you're a woman, and you're a mother.

20:05You're stupid.

20:08But so was I at 17.

20:09And he, he, he's a good man, and that, we know what you are, don't we?

20:21Well, that's your opinion.

20:24Good luck.

20:25Cool.

20:25Go live your life.

20:27I'm going to look after you, Dad.

20:28Go on.

20:28Run away with your boyfriend.

20:29I'm going to look after you, Dad.

20:30I'm going to look after you, Dad.

20:31I'm going to look after you, Dad.

20:32We'll see you.

20:33Good luck in the playground.

20:39We'll see.

20:40I don't know.

20:41I mean...

20:41I look in your eyes.

20:42I look in your eyes, and I swear to God, I know.

20:47Look at me.

20:47Oh, man.

20:48I would be.

20:49But no retaliation.

20:52I'm more hurting.

20:58Door open.

20:59I'm more hurting a bit, Kairos, in the way she's turned against us.

21:02I know, but listen.

21:04Door open.

21:05You know she'll come back, and it's not going to work, sat in that pod.

21:08There will be a moment.

21:09Look at me.

21:11You know at one point she'll say you were right.

21:14I know that.

21:14They know that.

21:15You know that.

21:16Just don't do anything you don't regret.

21:17I think you're a fantastic dad and a great grandfather.

21:22I'm sorry that we couldn't.

21:23I know that.

21:24This is the one.

21:26Okay?

21:26Good man.

21:27You're going to get that one, yeah?

21:28Give me a round of applause.

21:33After the break, another shocking story from the JK Vault.

21:36You do not want to miss it.

21:37I'm coming right back in three, my friends.

21:39You told my team, I pick cocaine over my kids.

21:42Yes, I do.

21:44That's the truth of it.

21:45Why is that?

21:46Because I love to cocaine more than my kids at the moment.

21:49And that's the bottom line, Jeremy.

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22:32Welcome back.

22:33It's another JK Vault show.

22:35And we're looking at some of our most shocking stories from 2018 before we kick off 2019.

22:38Of course, on Monday morning with some of the best brand new shows, I promise you, we've ever made.

22:43Next, though, it's Amy, who came here to confront her ex-boyfriend, Mickey.

22:47This was a hell of a story.

22:49Take a look at what happened, my friends.

22:50I'm married to Mickey, but separated, and you've been separated for quite a while.

22:57Yeah, nearly three years.

22:59You have a child together, a daughter.

23:00How old is she?

23:01Six.

23:02That's why I'm here.

23:03I'm not here for him.

23:03I'm here for her to get her dad back.

23:07But the 13 years you were together, were you aware of this problem?

23:10On and off.

23:11He was on drugs on and off.

23:13Every time I found out he was back on him, I would leave.

23:16I'm anti-drugs.

23:16I can't bear it.

23:17It's ruined my life.

23:18But even when he wasn't on drugs, I read he was horrendous towards you, he'd drink.

23:21If he was drinking, we had four years of no drinking, no nothing, and it was the perfect marriage.

23:28But that's when neither of us were working.

23:30Shut up, I'll get to you.

23:32I would think you need to learn to come out here and be honest today, so stop shouting out.

23:39Aggressive when drunk.

23:42Violent?

23:44Yeah, has been.

23:45Not hit, nothing like that.

23:46I said in the introduction, spat in your face.

23:48Yeah, a lot.

23:49He likes doing that.

23:51He likes doing that?

23:52When he's drunk, yeah.

23:52Why would you go back to a man that does that?

23:54Shut up!

23:55I don't know.

23:56I loved him.

23:57And when he, he, deep down, he has got a heart of gold.

24:00Deep down, there is a good person in there.

24:02But you've had drug dealers knocking on your door, you've got a young daughter there.

24:05I know.

24:06I know.

24:06That's why, three years, I've not let him have nothing to do with him.

24:08Didn't he smash his mobile over your head?

24:10Yeah.

24:12Put me in hospital.

24:13Tell me that story.

24:14He'd come home drunk one day.

24:16I was pregnant.

24:18And he said, I don't want that.

24:19I've got my daughter.

24:21Smashed the mobile over my head.

24:24There was blood absolutely everywhere.

24:27I asked him to call an ambulance.

24:29And he...

24:30I didn't call an ambulance, Amy.

24:31You didn't call an ambulance.

24:32You ran off.

24:33I called my mum.

24:34And she'd come and done it.

24:36Can you lose his bit?

24:37Do you know what?

24:38I'm not even...

24:39I don't care.

24:42I want to speak to her.

24:43I will speak to you when I'm ready.

24:44Now, go and sit down.

24:46Seriously, right now.

24:47Come on.

24:49You've got to speak up.

24:51This is a guy.

24:52This is a guy who doesn't pay for his daughter.

24:55This is a guy who picks cocaine over his kid.

24:58This is a guy who's told lies.

25:01Constant lies.

25:01He believes his own lies.

25:02And that assault, you lost that kid, didn't you?

25:05Yeah.

25:05No, no, no, no.

25:06No, no, no, no.

25:08No, Jeremy, I'm not having that.

25:09Not straight away.

25:10I'm not having that.

25:11Get off.

25:12I will speak.

25:13I'm not having it, Jeremy.

25:13I don't care what you're having.

25:15I will speak to her, then I'll speak to you.

25:18Got it?

25:18Get off.

25:23Boys wouldn't be a dad, though, Amy.

25:24Well, then start acting like one, Mickey.

25:31Stop putting stuff up your nose.

25:33He's thieved off everybody, hasn't he?

25:35He stole my bank card.

25:36He stole the rent.

25:37I found my bank card up down the alley.

25:40This is a guy who picks cocaine over his kid.

25:42This is a guy who doesn't pay.

25:42This is a guy who's aggressive and violent.

25:44I've had drug dealers.

25:45I've had his thieving.

25:46I've had all of this to deal with.

25:47I don't want this guy in my life.

25:48No, no.

25:49And you don't want him in your daughter's life?

25:50No, not now.

25:51But if he sorts himself out.

25:53To be in her life.

25:54If he sorts himself out.

25:55Who ran this show?

25:56His sister.

25:57Not him, then.

25:58Mickey's on the Jeremy Carr show.

26:00Good girl, but speed.

26:00That is...

26:01Lies.

26:09Lies.

26:09I'll tell you.

26:09Are you for real?

26:10Lies.

26:11Are you for real?

26:12You need to sit there and tell Jeremy the truth.

26:14And stop lying.

26:19You want to help.

26:20You want to see your daughter and what the help.

26:22You need to speak up and tell the truth.

26:24See, I read this this morning differently than anybody else.

26:28And I'm going to start this show as I want to.

26:30Ex-servicemen.

26:31Let me just say this now, then.

26:32No, you just said I could speak.

26:33Not your show, all right?

26:34Get lost, mate.

26:35How did you think you are?

26:36Listen, what I speak for at the moment, all right?

26:39I started today.

26:41When I read this today, I had real, I don't know, sympathy for you.

26:46You were...

26:46I don't want your sympathy.

26:47I don't want your sympathy, Jeremy.

26:49You're ex-forces, right?

26:50You're in Afghanistan.

26:51Yes.

26:51But when does that excuse run out, mate?

26:53What you've done, how you've behaved, and how you've treated people is disgusting, isn't it, Mickey?

27:00Yes, it is.

27:01Yes, it is.

27:02But...

27:02You did all of this, you.

27:05Not the armed forces or what you saw, you.

27:08You told my team, I pick cocaine over my kids.

27:11Yes, I do.

27:14And that's the truth of it.

27:15Why is that?

27:16Because I love the cocaine more than my kids at the moment.

27:19And that's the bottom line, Jeremy.

27:20I'm ashamed to say it, but that is how it is.

27:25Right?

27:25I've come on this show to tell you the truth.

27:27What is the truth, then, Mickey?

27:29I'm a cocaine, I love cocaine more than I love my children at the moment, yeah?

27:33Okay?

27:34Absolute joke.

27:35Yeah, absolute joke.

27:36And I'm not proud of that.

27:38Let me show you some VT we took.

27:40Have a watch of this.

27:40Turn this up, please, Matty.

27:41Watch this.

27:42This is you.

27:42I'll be honest with you, right?

27:45I love taking coke more than I love my kids at the end of the day.

27:49Yeah, it's a horrible thing to say, but that is how it is.

27:53And I'll tell you something now, right?

27:54I'm ashamed of what I'm doing and what I'm saying, but at the end of the day, I'm being

28:00truthful with you, and I love my coke more than I love my kids.

28:03You know, I steal off my family.

28:05I steal off, you know, people around me.

28:07The people that love me, which I'm not proud about.

28:10But at the end of the day, right?

28:12I love my cocaine.

28:15As we're filming this right now, I'm talking to you lovely people.

28:19I could absolutely murder a lion.

28:22It's getting to a point now, I won't lie to you, that at the end of the day, it's getting

28:26that bad, my problem, my coke, I'm thinking about, and I probably will, end up selling

28:31my body.

28:32And it's a degrading thing to say, but I'm just being honest with you.

28:39Selling your body for coke?

28:42I sleep on the streets, in bus shelters, open cars, and I sofa surf.

28:46Most nights, I can't even sleep.

28:47I steal every day.

28:49I'm good at it.

28:49What, are you proud of that?

28:50You're in the British Army.

28:52What, are you doing stealing off people, pal?

28:55Why don't you sort your own life out?

28:57Why does your sister have to phone me?

28:58What are you doing here, then, Jeremy?

28:59Your sister phoned the show.

29:01Not you.

29:02Go on.

29:03Answer that.

29:04What are you doing here, Jeremy?

29:05Your sister phoned the show.

29:06Answer that.

29:07Well, I can't answer it, can I?

29:08Why?

29:09Because she ran a show and I did it.

29:10You're a joke.

29:11That's what you are, and you know you're a joke.

29:13And you get over it by pretending you're the big man.

29:16You're not a big man at all.

29:17You're an embarrassment.

29:17You're not a big man.

29:18You've got a two big, two cases of your drug.

29:20What do you think I'd be worried about you?

29:23Yeah, listen to her.

29:24Why are you being like that?

29:26Everyone's here for you to get home.

29:28For Honey Rose.

29:28Who's that?

29:30Paige.

29:31My daughter.

29:32She just heard you say that you love drugs more than you love her.

29:37Yeah?

29:37And yet she still loves you and she's still there for you.

29:39She's a kid.

29:40How'd you get to this, Mickey?

29:41It's everybody else's fault, bar yours.

29:43I've never said that, Jeremy.

29:45I've never said it to everybody's.

29:46It's my fault.

29:47But then I...

29:47Told my team that it was her fault.

29:49She threw me out, didn't she?

29:51Oh, well, that makes you take cocaine, does it, yeah?

29:53Why did I throw you out?

29:54Because I won't have it in the house around the children.

29:57The lies, the money, the drugs.

29:59I've done it once, by the round of kids.

30:01That was it.

30:02I've done it once.

30:03It took me to be detective,

30:05to have to try and capture you out

30:07so I could actually say, get hell out.

30:09So you did drugs in the house, did you?

30:13Once?

30:14Who with?

30:15On my own.

30:18I thought you were going to be really honest today.

30:20How old are you?

30:2238, Jeremy.

30:23Ex-British Army.

30:24The man, yeah?

30:25A man who comes out here and...

30:26I'm not saying I'm a man.

30:27I'm not...

30:27A man who comes out here and says,

30:29I prefer cocaine to my kids.

30:31I'm not sure you know this.

30:33Didn't you give your 18-year-old cocaine once?

30:36What's your daughter called?

30:37Paige.

30:38Paige is on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.

30:40Why haven't you kissed the man who gave you cocaine

30:50and tells you that he prefers that drug to you?

30:52It is horrible.

30:53The knowing my dad did give it to me,

30:54but it wasn't just...

30:55How old were you when he gave it to you?

30:5618.

30:58Well, how does that come about,

30:59that your dad gives you cocaine?

31:00Can you explain that to me?

31:02I don't...

31:03It's because she wanted it, Jeremy.

31:04She wanted it.

31:05She's 18.

31:05She's all right now.

31:06Well, you should have told her

31:07she shouldn't have drugs, you idiot!

31:11I thought that was...

31:12I thought that was the...

31:13Don't defend him, love.

31:14He gave you drugs

31:15and he just said she wanted it.

31:16No, I'm not saying...

31:17Kids want chocolate,

31:18but you don't give it to them the whole time, do you?

31:21And I'm a good father.

31:22You're a useless father.

31:23I'm regretting it when I...

31:23Terrible, terrible father!

31:25I'm not saying...

31:26I'm not joking for doing that.

31:27I'm not saying I'm not...

31:28I admit that.

31:28When you hear him say,

31:29I prefer cocaine to my kids,

31:31can we just drop?

31:32Yeah, yeah, that's horrible.

31:32It's horrible to hear that.

31:34But it doesn't help

31:35when he doesn't see his kids

31:37and it makes him...

31:38Oh, well, you're blaming her?

31:39No, I'm not blaming him.

31:40Why don't she allow a kid near you?

31:41He is the same thing for what he's done.

31:42Then why are you sat there making excuses?

31:44I'm not making excuses up for him.

31:46No way I'm making excuses.

31:46I know what people like that are like.

31:48Everybody else is to blame her,

31:49my job, my life,

31:50everything's so stressful,

31:51so I have to steal.

31:52You don't know me.

31:53You don't know me.

31:54Why don't you get off your backside

31:56and make your life better yourself, then?

31:58Fine, Jeremy!

32:00How am I doing that?

32:01How are you doing that?

32:02You lose your temper

32:03and do what you did to her.

32:04Make her lose the baby

32:05by smacking her over the head with a mo...

32:08Yeah.

32:09Mate.

32:09That's it.

32:10You're going to lick.

32:11That's it.

32:11You do one

32:12and you'll get in nothing

32:13because I ain't following you.

32:14That's how much you want to see

32:15your daughter in the future, then.

32:17Walking off.

32:19Yeah?

32:19I don't know what I mean from him.

32:21You don't need it from anybody, do you?

32:23I don't care.

32:23I can't sit down that listen to him straight.

32:24Because nobody's ever told you the truth

32:24because they've all made excuses for you.

32:27Disgrace.

32:27I'm not having a disgrace, Jeremy.

32:28Think about your father

32:29wanting to sell his body for cocaine.

32:31Please tell me that shocks you, Paige.

32:33That's the first time I've ever heard that.

32:34That's the first time I've ever heard him say that.

32:35The lowest of the low

32:36is pretending he's got cancer.

32:37But then this is why he needs help.

32:39Sorry, he what?

32:40Pretended he had cancer.

32:43He said he had bowel cancer.

32:45Paige, you went with him

32:46to the hospital

32:46for a fake blood transfusion.

32:48Why?

32:48And it wasn't until I rang the doctors

32:51and...

32:52It's the truth.

32:54Did you or did you not come in my house

32:56giving me all that

32:58and pulling at my heartstrings...

33:00Telling her that you wanted to spend

33:01your last few days...

33:03Telling the children...

33:03That you want to spend the last few days

33:04with your kids.

33:06Is that true?

33:07Yes, it is.

33:08Who's that?

33:10Sister.

33:10Hayley.

33:11What's she called?

33:12Hayley.

33:12Let's get Hayley on the Jeremy Kyle show

33:14that way.

33:21Absolute disgrace you are.

33:23Disgusting, Mickey.

33:24What on earth are you playing at?

33:26Saying that.

33:27How shameful are you?

33:29How shameful are you?

33:30You do not deserve this opportunity.

33:33I'm telling you now,

33:34you are a disgrace.

33:35Was that a reason

33:36that you started taking cocaine?

33:37Because your dad died, yeah?

33:39No, it wasn't.

33:39Just wondering if that was another...

33:40Why don't you tell your sister

33:42if you want to have it all out there today,

33:44Mickey, you're the one that wanted it.

33:45Only she had to ring.

33:46Why don't you tell her the truth

33:47about the funeral

33:48when you carried your dad's coffin?

33:50Go on.

33:51Tell them the truth, Mickey.

33:52What truth?

33:53What happened, Mickey?

33:54You want my help, too?

33:54Probably on cocaine when he's done that.

33:56Go on.

33:56Tell them what you told my team.

33:58I was on cocaine, yeah.

33:59Off this place.

34:00Because I couldn't cope with it, Paige.

34:02I couldn't cope with it.

34:02Oh, you couldn't cope with it.

34:04Come with Mickey.

34:05Let me tell you something now, right?

34:06You don't know this,

34:07but you before dad died, yeah?

34:09I weren't there for him, was I?

34:10Yeah, because we had a row, didn't we?

34:12And the last conversation I had with my old man, right,

34:16was that we were going to have a fight with it

34:17on Christmas Day.

34:18Do you remember?

34:18Yeah.

34:18And I didn't see you.

34:19All three's count as all three's...

34:21Who spoke this up?

34:22Go on, finish, please.

34:23Yours.

34:24You can't blame Granda for that.

34:25I'm not blaming Granda.

34:26I'm not blaming Granda for that.

34:27I'm just telling you now, Paige.

34:29You're trying to blame it on the guilt again.

34:30You can't blame it on things that you...

34:32Hold your hands up and say

34:33what an absolute wally you have been.

34:35You said that.

34:36And what a monk you are.

34:38Hold your hands up.

34:39Take some responsibility.

34:40I was going to say what you were going to say.

34:44I was cleaned up to that time

34:45before my dad got...

34:46Four weeks before he died.

34:47That's no excuse.

34:48I'm not saying it's no excuse, Paige, right?

34:51What did you get to all of you?

34:52Hold on a minute, Paige, please.

34:53Four weeks before he passed away,

34:56I went and saw him for the first time, Jeremy, right?

34:59And the last conversation I had with him

35:00when he was with me dad properly,

35:02he didn't even really know I was, really.

35:03He's hit me hard, Jeremy, right?

35:05No excuse for it.

35:06You can sit there, you know, doing all that,

35:07you know, feel sorry for myself.

35:09No, listen, listen.

35:11You've got to deal with that.

35:12I want to.

35:13I want to get, I want to get, I want to get,

35:15excuse me, one sec, I want to get this out.

35:16Go on.

35:18And I want to saw him and basically,

35:19the last proper conversation I had with him was.

35:23Was what?

35:23We had a friend, he was going to smash my face

35:25and I called him a fat list out and the other.

35:27And thought that was the last conversation I had with him.

35:29That's been doing with me for the rest of my life.

35:31Tough!

35:31You've got to deal with it.

35:32And it's got to live with Paige that you're a thief

35:34that wants to sell your body because you prefer cocaine.

35:37It's got to live with her, the mother of your kid

35:38that you're more interested in drugs and the child.

35:41It's got to live with your sister that you weren't around

35:43and yet we're all supposed to feel sorry for you.

35:45That's what they're saying.

35:47I don't want you to feel sorry for me.

35:48First up, this is you.

35:50Nobody else.

35:52Lucky it's you.

35:55I think it was Thursday, he got taken to the hospital.

35:58He got told by the hospital that he had a month.

36:01If he put anything else in his body, he had a month.

36:04When was that?

36:05Friday.

36:06Last Wednesday.

36:07Medically, what's going on here?

36:09First and foremost, let's just clear something up.

36:12You don't love cocaine more than you love your family, okay?

36:16You make a choice to use cocaine

36:20and there are reasons behind that.

36:23I've lost everything.

36:23I've lost my wife, my kids, my family.

36:26And that's what we're saying, isn't it?

36:28We hated you.

36:30Why are we here?

36:31And that's what we're saying.

36:32We're trying to help you, not hate against you, Mickey.

36:34Who was also addicted?

36:36Who was also addicted?

36:37Yeah, I know, I know.

36:38Were you addicted to cocaine?

36:40Yeah, I was.

36:40What, because he introduced you to it?

36:42No, he didn't.

36:43I did it with him.

36:44Like, I think it was the third time I ever tried it.

36:47How long were you on it for?

36:49I went through a really rough patch of, for a good, almost...

36:52You ain't got to try it with this baby anyway, you know what I mean?

36:54Yeah, she does, actually, because I was going to say...

36:57How old are you?

36:58I'm 18.

36:59So you're 18-year-old cracked it, but you didn't.

37:02But you need to acknowledge what you've done and the impact you've had.

37:05I can't.

37:06What have you done?

37:07Nothing.

37:09I can't.

37:10I can't.

37:11I mean, I've got nothing, Jamie.

37:12I've got nothing with your life.

37:14Just tell them what you put us as a family through.

37:18Look at you.

37:18Look at you there, Mickey.

37:19Look at that.

37:20If you've watched this, you know total respect.

37:24Look at that.

37:24What the hell happened?

37:26What happened?

37:28You had everything, Dad.

37:30You had a family.

37:31I'll show you.

37:32I'll move to order shop with you.

37:33One sec, what happened?

37:34What you saw?

37:36Yeah.

37:36What'd you see?

37:37Talk to me, tell me, look at me.

37:39What'd you see?

37:40Dead bodies?

37:41Yeah.

37:42Dismembered bodies?

37:43Yeah.

37:44Everything.

37:45Did you get any help?

37:47I did get help.

37:48I had the help, but I didn't bother.

37:51Why?

37:52Because I can cope with it.

37:54But there you just said it.

37:55You were offered help.

37:55You didn't use it.

37:57I'm not saying that that was easy, but when I see that and I see this, I'll help anybody,

38:03but not until they acknowledge what they've done.

38:06Do you think I want to be like this, Jeremy?

38:07That's what I want to hear.

38:09I don't want to be like this.

38:10Do you want to be like this?

38:11Of course I don't.

38:12Then how are you going to do different?

38:14That's what I want to know.

38:16By shouting at the rest of the world.

38:18Yeah, I'm going to take you on, aren't I?

38:20Because I don't care.

38:22These people love you.

38:24She said it.

38:24They wouldn't be here.

38:26You want to be that man again, or you want to be this?

38:29Standing in a beanie saying you're going to sell your whatever.

38:32For what?

38:33A line of cocaine so you can blot out, as she said.

38:36It is what it is, Jeremy.

38:37But you're blotting out every piece of stuff that you've gone through.

38:41What you need is the strength to deal with that and put it behind you and go forward,

38:45because you've got people that love you.

38:48Appreciate what you...

38:49People like...

38:51You're scared of being free of cocaine, aren't you?

38:55You're scared of facing up to the mistakes you've made or the people you've upset.

39:00Taking a line's a way of...

39:02Well, you'll say, I can't get off it.

39:05For me, it's a cop-out.

39:06Every line you take's a cop-out, because that man could have faced up what you're dealing with.

39:12But that man's still in there.

39:13But this man's a coward.

39:14That man wasn't a coward.

39:15That man was brave.

39:16That man put himself on the line for this country, for us, for all of us.

39:20You don't even put yourself on the line for your kids.

39:22See, I know that man's still in there.

39:24But that man ain't getting my help to come out until this man admits what he's done wrong

39:29and acknowledges...

39:30Oh, you're loving this, Amy.

39:31Is she really the father of her six-year-old who craves her dad?

39:37The first thing she said, I want her to have her dad back.

39:41She can't bring you back.

39:43She...

39:43You can.

39:44I know the only person to bring back, Jessie, is me.

39:46So how are you going to do it?

39:48If you want a greater understanding, if you have physical pain,

39:51and you couldn't cope with that pain, what would you do?

39:53Take a drug.

39:54You would take a drug to alleviate that physical pain?

39:57Mm-hmm.

39:58How do you think he's alleviating his emotional pain?

40:00By taking cocaine.

40:01This man spends £100 every day on cocaine.

40:06He uses cocaine every hour of every day and has done for ten years.

40:12He's got a high psychological dependency on it.

40:16But listen to me now.

40:17I want you to listen to me.

40:18How big is this problem?

40:20Life or death.

40:21It's life or death.

40:22It's a massive problem.

40:24Here's the important thing.

40:25It will take a massive effort from you to resolve it.

40:30Can I ask you?

40:31What's that?

40:34He's going.

40:36You being serious?

40:39We're different.

40:41He...

40:41Yes.

40:41Listen to me.

40:42Now, now.

40:44Listen.

40:45We have to do it this way.

40:47Look at me.

40:48Look at him.

40:49I need you to get to the...

40:51Yeah.

40:51I need you to get to the point where you're prepared to do this.

40:54But however bad it is, this is a fantastic chance, isn't it?

40:58Yeah.

40:58Graham, tell him what we're offering.

41:00Okay.

41:01Listen to this.

41:02Look at him.

41:03You're going to get in that car and you're going to go to the periclaiming project in Luton.

41:08You will go through a full rehabilitation process.

41:12It will take three months.

41:14During that time, you will go through a medical detox.

41:17You will then go into counselling, group therapy, and hopefully you will deal with that trauma.

41:24Hopefully you will deal with those underlying issues.

41:26During the time that you are there.

41:29Then, it's not the end.

41:31Okay?

41:32There is a massive support programme on the back of that.

41:35That, to me, is really important.

41:37It's not the end of it.

41:38This is a battle for life for you.

41:40So it's massively important that on the end of that rehabilitation programme, which will be three months minimum,

41:46that you also have a support system when you're discharged.

41:49Come back here.

41:51Prove me wrong.

41:51Prove him right.

41:52He's always right.

41:53I'll come back here and sit my fingers up at you.

41:54I don't worry about that.

41:57I'm not the person I want you to do about that.

42:00All right?

42:02I have to make you understand.

42:04You have to fight it, okay?

42:06We're going.

42:06All five of us.

42:07Great.

42:07Bring him along.

42:07Come this way, guys.

42:09Do you understand me?

42:10Yeah.

42:11All right?

42:11This way.

42:12Down there.

42:13Guys, this way.

42:13Oh.

42:14Really?

42:16All right?

42:20That's the point, though, isn't it?

42:21If I go, oh, there's the rehab, you wouldn't know how important it is.

42:26Yeah?

42:27I know.

42:27I know you can do this.

42:28She's so fucking hard at me.

42:29Of course it is.

42:30Okay.

42:30And, you know, when I shouted at her, I was just, it's just, that's not me, mate.

42:34That's not me.

42:35Hey, listen, what you did as a soldier, I can't even begin to imagine what you saw, but I know

42:41you can get this back.

42:42I mean, I will not let you down, mate.

42:43I will not let my, the biggest person I'm not going to down is my, it's my kids, and I will

42:46not let them down.

42:47And she loves you that age anyway.

42:49Okay?

42:49Let's bring him in.

42:50Come here.

42:50Sure.

42:50The amazing Perry Clayman.

42:52Mickey, nice to meet you.

42:53Guys, come in, come in.

42:55Perry, just briefly, in a bit more detail.

42:57Yeah.

42:57Three months for Mickey.

42:58Mickey, just listen to what Perry's offering.

43:00Sorry.

43:01Mickey, so what I'm here today is to offer you 12 weeks, that's three months, residential

43:06rehabilitation and detox at the Perry Clayman Project in Luton, and we're going to detox you.

43:14We're going to give you the treatment, the counselling, the therapy that you need to help you,

43:20and get you through this addiction.

43:23Just get me in that matter, Jeremy.

43:25Say goodbye to your family, all right?

43:27Good to see you, mate.

43:28You jump in and say goodbye to the family.

43:29Thanks.

43:30Oh, watch his head.

43:31All right.

43:31Let's do that one, all right?

43:32Love you.

43:33In he gets, pal.

43:34All right.

43:34I will.

43:36All right?

43:36You do it for the baby.

43:38Do it for Honey Rose and do it for her over there.

43:40All right?

43:41No, we'll.

43:41Make the family proud, all right?

43:43It's okay?

43:43All right?

43:44All right.

43:44Just say frankly, try me.

43:47All right, Mickey.

43:48I'm going to say one thing, mate.

43:50Listen, I won't let you down, big man, all right?

43:52I promise you.

43:52All right?

43:53I won't let you down.

43:53All right?

43:54Do it for them kids, please.

43:55Love you.

43:56Please.

43:57See you later.

43:57See you later, baby.

43:58I know you can.

43:59I'm sorry about shouting and all that, brother.

44:00I know you can.

44:01I'll do that.

44:02I will not let you down.

44:02I'll tell you something now.

44:03All right, listen.

44:05I've got a lot of gratitude for you and your people.

44:06And you're off to get a female.

44:07It's been absolutely amazing.

44:09I've seen three months getting that car.

44:10Thanks, Perry.

44:11You're out of here.

44:12Good luck, Mickey.

44:13You're on a go, Tom.

44:13And you.

44:14Good luck, Tom.

44:15God bless.

44:15Thanks, mate.

44:17I know.

44:23And what I love about you, it's about the kid.

44:25I get that, right?

44:26You've been tainted by this.

44:28Brave.

44:29Really honest.

44:31Strong.

44:32Any phone call, I can't handle this.

44:35Bang.

44:35He'll do it.

44:36This is, I, I, and he says I'm cynical.

44:39He doesn't have my phone.

44:39Right.

44:40I think he knows my phone.

44:41Who's the most cynical person here?

44:42I, I will say, give me camera, give me camera, give me camera.

44:45I absolutely believe a million percent Mickey will do it and will come back here and will

44:50smack.

44:50That's me.

44:51Completely believe it.

44:56After the break, the big question.

44:57Did Mickey manage to get clean?

44:59You'll find out in three.

45:00We're coming right back with the JK Vault next.

45:02Welcome back to the final part of today's Shocking Stories, JK Vault show, where we're looking

45:16back at some of our most memorable moments in 2018.

45:19Don't forget, though, my friends, 2019 kicks off with a bang Monday morning at 9.25.

45:24And I make them, but I'm telling you, they're some of the best shows ever.

45:27Next, the big question.

45:29Did Mickey get clean?

45:30Take a look at this.

45:31We, we don't often do this, but we wanted to do this because the turnaround's been incredible.

45:40Yeah, amazing.

45:41To be fair, I didn't even know he was that bad, because I'd not seen him for a long time.

45:44But, yeah, absolutely incredible.

45:48But in the space of him going to rehab and getting clean of cocaine, he's, but you're

45:53back together.

45:53He's in your bed.

45:55Through the weeks.

45:56So you've a lot to thank me and Graham for, haven't you?

45:58I do.

45:58I mean, loads.

45:59I do, yeah.

46:00Nine weeks ago, I never thought I would say the word proud of him, because I said, you've

46:05got yourself in that state.

46:06And I'm really proud of PCP and the work that Graham does, because it's very, very good.

46:11Mickey's back.

46:12Give him a round of applause that way.

46:21Come here, darling.

46:22Come here, darling.

46:26Thank you, mate.

46:30Thank you, big man.

46:31Oh, God.

46:34Thank you, mate.

46:35Thank you, thank you.

46:36Now, that's, do you know what?

46:37Still not wearing socks there, you idiot.

46:39No.

46:41We don't usually do it.

46:43We wanted to do this for a reason, because you were in a dark, dark place, weren't you?

46:47I was rock bottom, Jeremy.

46:49I was in a bad place that I would never put any human being where I was.

46:54I wouldn't put my worst enemy there.

46:56But do you know what?

46:58I'm so proud of myself.

46:59When you look behind you.

47:01When you look behind you.

47:03Obviously, the last nine weeks have opened my eyes.

47:05To what I was.

47:07But my journey starts here, Jeremy.

47:08I've got to work a programme for the rest of my life.

47:12I'm going to give him some credit.

47:13Get him out.

47:13Graham Stanier, ladies and gentlemen.

47:14Give him a round of applause.

47:15I love that you're so proud of yourself.

47:22I really do.

47:23Isn't it interesting, Greg, that he said, Mickey, which I liked, because a lot of, let's be honest, there's a reason for doing this occasionally.

47:30Yeah.

47:30The people watching this go, does that work?

47:32It's not just sending people, but they have to make the effort.

47:34But it is not just the nine or 12 week programme.

47:37It really isn't.

47:37It's not just the work afterwards, right?

47:39It is.

47:39It's a lifelong problem.

47:40Sometimes you've got to make some major lifestyle changes.

47:43And, you know, he's done that.

47:45And you're not the only one that's proud of you, you know.

47:48It's a...