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Mark Cuban Reveals He Was Vice Presidential Candidate, Turned Down Kamala | TMZ Live
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6/20/2025
Kamala Harris was considering Mark Cuban as her running mate, but the billionaire flat out rejected the campaign, explaining he wasn't the type to play second fiddle ... saying for that reason, I'm out!
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So for a while, people have talked about the possibility of Mark Cuban potentially running
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for president of the United States. Well, apparently Kamala Harris was interested in him
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potentially being her vice president. At least that's what Mark Cuban told Tim Miller on the
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Bulwark podcast. They asked you to send in VP vetting papers and you said, no, the list would
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be too long. Is that true? It is true. I'm not very good as the number two person. And so if the last
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thing we need is me telling Kamala, you know, the president that, no, that's a dumb idea. Right.
00:37
And I'm not real good at the shaking hands. Well, I don't know about that. If it was you
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instead of Tim Walls, who the hell knows? I don't know. It feels maybe different. It feels maybe
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different. I mean, obviously it would have been different. My personality is completely different
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than Tim's. My experiences, my backgrounds are completely different. I think I've cut through
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more directly. I'm not a politician. And so it would have been different, but it would have been
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awful. She would have fired me. It would have been better than present situation, you know?
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Well, yes, that's true. So I got to say something about Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban is the Donald Trump
01:16
on the other side. And, um, and I say that not because of Donald Trump's personality, but Mark
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Cuban's personality is as big as Donald Trump's personality, but he emotes differently. And there
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has been a lot of talk about Mark Cuban running for president. He won't do it for a reason. And it
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has to do, in fact, I did a, um, I did an episode of Objectified with Mark and, um, and he talked
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to me about this, um, interestingly about the party he'd probably run on. Are you a Democrat
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or Republican? I'm fiercely independent. But if you run, you're going to have to run one
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or the other. Um, maybe. Well, if you had to choose, what would you choose? Probably Republican.
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How come? Because I think there's a place for, um, somebody who is socially a centrist,
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but I'm, I'm very fiscally conservative. I wouldn't run unless I have solutions. If I
02:17
have solutions, then I have something to offer. If I don't, you won't see me anywhere near being
02:22
a politician. This was done, I, I, around 2018. And it was, it was at a different time
02:28
when Mark was really considering it. The reason he didn't, and I pressed him on this for a long
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time, over a long period of time, and I believe him, it has to do with his kids, that he wanted
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to raise his kids and be a present dad. Yeah. And he felt if he did this, it just wouldn't
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be the case. A lot of people wanted him to run. And I think now, if he did, he'd definitely
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do it as a Democrat. It's interesting. Obviously, now his kids are almost 10 years, uh, older.
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So it would be very interesting. I would love to know the answer to what would have happened
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if Mark Cuban was her running mate, Kamala's running mate, instead of Tim Walz. I certainly
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think they would have done better. Obviously the Democrats did not do well with men. I
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think Mark Cuban is very popular with men and I think he would have really helped. He would
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have bolstered that ticket. Whereas I don't think that Tim Walz did anything positive for
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her. No, nothing. And, and here's the thing is that Kamala Harris's biggest problem was
03:22
that she felt like more of the same. And Mark Cuban feels different. He feels fresh. He
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feels interesting. People would be drawn to him. It's a different storyline. And so I
03:35
think he would have been a big plus. But it's interesting. He said he didn't want to be number
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two, which by the way, is also what Josh Shapiro said to her behind the scenes, the Pennsylvania
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governor who a lot of people wanted her to pick. And he was having problems with this concept
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of being number two. He wanted to be number one. She was very comfortable with Tim Walz
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was like, I'm happy to be number two. And then he performed very much like a number two.
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Like a number two. Here's my question. If Mark did this, and this is no shade on Kamala Harris,
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but I think you're right. She was more the same. He is so different. If he eclipses her,
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that when she speaks and then he speaks and people say, wow, listen to him, does that hurt her?
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And it's something that she is very conscious of, that kind of thing too. And she knows what
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it's like having been a vice president herself. It's one of the reasons a lot of people think
04:25
she picked Walz.
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