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  • 6/20/2025
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00:01:30Kate?
00:01:31Hi, Mike?
00:01:32Yes, thanks so much for coming on. It's so rad to meet you.
00:01:34You too.
00:01:35See you found the poster?
00:01:36I'm sorry?
00:01:37We make limited edition posters for all of our special series.
00:01:40This is one for yours.
00:01:41I can get you one if you'd like.
00:01:43No, that's okay.
00:01:44Come on, let's get you set up.
00:01:45Do you want some water, kombucha?
00:01:47I hope you don't mind, but this is just so exciting.
00:01:49I mean, you know all of this, but your case was in the headlines for months.
00:01:53You really had it all.
00:01:54Lost campers, a mysterious murder in the woods.
00:01:57You're like a living legend in the true crime world.
00:01:59This is going to be really simple.
00:02:07We can talk as long as you want.
00:02:09We're going to add all this later, so don't worry if you mess up.
00:02:11Did you get the questions that I sent you?
00:02:13Yes, listen, I don't want to talk about the trial or anything that happened after.
00:02:18I just want to talk about what happened.
00:02:20You just want to lay out your side of the story?
00:02:21We totally appreciate that.
00:02:28Kate Reid, I want to thank you for sitting down with me today.
00:02:32You are the sole survivor of what has become one of the more fascinating homicide cases of recent years.
00:02:38Yeah, I suppose that's one way to put it.
00:02:39How would you put it?
00:02:40A tragedy, maybe?
00:02:43The worst chapter of my life.
00:02:44Tragedy, yes, absolutely.
00:02:46You're aware, though, of the massive community that's formed around this case.
00:02:50Subreddits, TikToks, YouTube videos.
00:02:52I mean, you must know that this was a big deal for you to give us an exclusive interview.
00:02:55Yeah, I've been told, but to be honest, I don't go online much these days.
00:02:57I envy you.
00:02:59This might work better for me if I can just start from the beginning and tell you what happened.
00:03:04Is that okay?
00:03:05By all means.
00:03:13Okay, I'm coming.
00:03:34Oh, I don't need that water.
00:03:42Okay.
00:03:47Hey!
00:03:49Oh, my God.
00:03:51I miss you both so much.
00:03:53Oh, I miss you so much.
00:04:00Oh, how are you?
00:04:02Good.
00:04:02How are you?
00:04:03Hey, Lucas.
00:04:04Hey.
00:04:04How's Seattle?
00:04:05It was so much fun.
00:04:07I cannot wait to move out there.
00:04:09Wait, I thought you guys said I had like an extra hour.
00:04:11We did.
00:04:13Circumstances have changed.
00:04:14What happened?
00:04:14We'll explain on the way.
00:04:19Be an Amy-related circumstance?
00:04:21What else would it be?
00:04:22Alrighty.
00:04:23Let's hit it.
00:04:24Let's hit it.
00:04:24Let's hit it.
00:04:25Let's hit it.
00:04:25Let's hit it.
00:04:26Let's hit it.
00:04:27Let's hit it.
00:04:27Let's hit it.
00:04:44So, the fight started this morning?
00:04:55I think the fight started a few years ago, but...
00:04:58Yeah, her and her mom got into it this morning,
00:05:02so she texted that she had to leave early.
00:05:04Oh, God.
00:05:06Poor Amy.
00:05:07Amy.
00:05:14Hey, hey, hey.
00:05:38You okay?
00:05:41She's just so mean.
00:05:42Sorry.
00:05:45Amy was always troubled.
00:05:47But things had gotten worse.
00:05:50I see that now.
00:05:53It's cruel how clearly I can see everything now.
00:05:56What can you see clearly now that you couldn't before?
00:06:00Well, maybe I misspoke.
00:06:03It's not that I can see everything clearly.
00:06:07In many ways, I'm more confused than ever.
00:06:10What I mean is, I can see now that a storm had been building for years,
00:06:16and I ignored the signs at every turn.
00:06:19I didn't want to believe the worst would come to pass,
00:06:23and so I told myself it wouldn't.
00:06:29Okay.
00:06:30Okay?
00:06:31Okay, I'm done feeling bad.
00:06:33I'm just, I'm done.
00:06:34I simply refused to feel so terrible when we spent so long planning this trip.
00:06:38Yes, that's our girl.
00:06:40I just hope I didn't get us off on the wrong foot.
00:06:43Hey, parents suck.
00:06:44Okay?
00:06:45I know as well as anybody.
00:06:46Oh my God, it's so beautiful up here.
00:06:50Kate, thank you so much for planning all this.
00:06:52Yeah, thank you, Kate.
00:06:53This is really cool.
00:06:54Please, it's my pleasure.
00:06:56I don't want us to go our separate ways without a proper send-off,
00:06:59or at all, really, but I'm trying to be realistic.
00:07:02That is so sweet.
00:07:05We deserve to see it into its next decade, right?
00:07:07Yeah.
00:07:09Okay, it's kind of nuts that our school ever even took us up there.
00:07:13We were in middle school.
00:07:15We were kids.
00:07:15We were children.
00:07:18I told people that in college.
00:07:19They did not believe me.
00:07:19Well, that's what happens when your middle school teachers are all a bunch of old fucking hippies.
00:07:23Oh, yeah, Miss Campbell.
00:07:27That was her name.
00:07:27I thought I had a wrong one.
00:07:28Oh, shit.
00:07:30Oh, what are we all looking forward to most on this trip?
00:07:35You know what I'm looking forward to.
00:07:37What?
00:07:40My man.
00:07:40Don't say.
00:07:41Oh, my God.
00:07:42Guys, no.
00:07:43Bigfoot's a good guy.
00:07:44Like, you just have to warm up to him.
00:07:46Shut up.
00:07:46I'd love to meet him one day.
00:07:48Personally, I just want to say, I want to get out of all the noise and maybe get away from Sam, too.
00:07:52Yeah, same here.
00:07:54You can actually pull over.
00:07:56Stop.
00:07:56I'll walk.
00:07:57It's fine.
00:07:57Okay, okay.
00:07:58I would say hang out with all of you, obviously.
00:08:01And, um, I don't know, just getting one last adventure in.
00:08:04Oh, Amy.
00:08:07Oh, I guess same.
00:08:09Just spending time with all of you.
00:08:12Yeah.
00:08:12So it was your idea to arrange the hike.
00:08:27It was my idea.
00:08:30These people had been my best friends for years.
00:08:33I didn't want to let them go.
00:08:36I guess that's the cruel irony, right?
00:08:38I have to say so, yeah.
00:08:40Well, I mean, we all wanted to do it.
00:08:44It wasn't just me.
00:08:46Not my fault.
00:08:47I never said it was.
00:08:48Right, but it's taken me a while to feel that way myself, you know?
00:08:55Everyone wanted this trip equally.
00:08:57I think I just wanted it for a particular reason.
00:09:02And that was?
00:09:03I think I was scared of the next phase of my life.
00:09:09I mean, who isn't a bit when they graduate, right?
00:09:12But I think I wanted to go back and do that hike again because I wanted to preserve it.
00:09:19But life doesn't work like that.
00:09:23You can't save the past by recreating it, and I think that's where I was at fault.
00:09:27That feeling blinded me to what was going on.
00:09:33You know, they haven't come out with a good record in, like, years.
00:09:37Okay, get out of here.
00:09:38No, she's right, dude.
00:09:40All right, whatever.
00:09:41Okay, no, wait.
00:09:42Okay, this is the one that I was telling you about.
00:09:46Sorry, God.
00:09:47I don't know if you look at all.
00:09:48Oh, listen.
00:09:49Just listen.
00:09:53Okay.
00:09:54I'll give you.
00:09:55I'll give you.
00:09:56You know what's up.
00:09:58I think we're here.
00:09:59Perfect!
00:10:26I'm sorry.
00:10:29Oh, I'm sorry.
00:10:55Checking in.
00:10:56Yeah, it should be under read.
00:10:58Okay.
00:11:11Your rooms are 5F and 6E.
00:11:15Thanks.
00:11:19Anything else?
00:11:21Uh, no.
00:11:23Thanks.
00:11:25Hey, you good?
00:11:26Uh, yeah.
00:11:27Sorry.
00:11:28The owner's just a weirdo.
00:11:29Uh, 5F and we're 6E.
00:11:31Oh, I didn't tell you guys.
00:11:32What?
00:11:33I got the job.
00:11:34No way, bro.
00:11:35That's amazing, Lucas.
00:11:36So they didn't check up on your fake resume?
00:11:37Shut the fuck up, dude.
00:11:39Shut the fuck up, dude.
00:11:40Yeah, in one month's time, I'm gonna be in San Francisco as the new head of development.
00:11:45Oh, so you lied on the whole thing.
00:11:46Shut the fuck up, bro.
00:11:47Shut the fuck up, dude.
00:11:48Shut up, Sam.
00:11:49That's great, Lucas.
00:11:50Thanks.
00:11:51Oh, what did your mom say?
00:11:52You know actually, I haven't told her yet.
00:11:53I was gonna wait until we get back and surprise her.
00:11:54God.
00:11:55Amy, this place stinks.
00:11:56You know that, Kate?
00:11:57Am I really supposed to sleep here for a whole fucking night?
00:11:58You do know we're going camping, right?
00:11:59Yeah, I know that, asshole.
00:12:00Oh, my shit, man.
00:12:01No, no, no.
00:12:02You're going to go camping.
00:12:03I'm just not out there.
00:12:04You're going to go camping.
00:12:05Yeah, you're just going to be camping, man.
00:12:06You're just going to be camping, right?
00:12:07You're going to be camping.
00:12:08That's really, like, in the air.
00:12:09I'm going to be camping.
00:12:10If I'm camping, I'm going to be camping.
00:12:11And then on the way that's a ride around the whole thing.
00:12:13Amy, this place stinks. You know that, Kate?
00:12:16Am I really supposed to sleep here for a whole fucking night?
00:12:18You do know we're going camping, right?
00:12:20Yeah, I know that, asshole.
00:12:23Okay, and I'd like to reiterate that I wanted to go to Atlantic City.
00:12:26But these are the woods we became friends in.
00:12:28And it'll be nice to be here before we all move on.
00:12:31Yeah, it's poetic and shit.
00:12:33There's plenty of poetry in Atlantic City.
00:12:36Where?
00:12:37What do you mean, where? It's Atlantic City.
00:12:39You realize?
00:12:39Yeah.
00:12:41Besides, being in the woods is supposed to be good for you.
00:12:43It's called forest bathing.
00:12:45Is that a scientific term?
00:12:47I had to take a lit class to pass final semester, okay?
00:12:50So I took one on urban legends and myths.
00:12:52That's cool.
00:12:53Thank you, Amy. It was cool.
00:12:55Are there any legends about this place?
00:12:57Or is there just some boring trail in the middle of fucking nowhere?
00:12:59Hey.
00:13:00What?
00:13:01I mean, we could look it up.
00:13:03I didn't realize you were trying to be an amateur cryptozoologist.
00:13:07College changed you, bro.
00:13:08I know what you could look up instead.
00:13:10Pizza and wine nearby.
00:13:11Fuck yeah. I am starving.
00:13:13Well, for at least half of that, I got you covered.
00:13:18Yes!
00:13:18Let's go, Amy!
00:13:20Fuck yeah.
00:13:21Oh my god. Thank you.
00:13:24Cryptozoologist?
00:13:25I believe in you.
00:13:26Come on.
00:13:26Cryptozoologist.
00:13:27That's what I choose.
00:13:32Oh!
00:13:32I believe in you.
00:13:54I believe in you.
00:13:55Amy.
00:14:13Amy.
00:14:15Amy.
00:14:25Amy.
00:14:33Amy.
00:14:37Amy.
00:14:41Amy.
00:14:45Amy.
00:14:49Amy.
00:14:53Amy.
00:14:55Amy.
00:14:56Amy.
00:14:57It's okay.
00:14:58You were just sleepwalking again.
00:14:59I was in the woods.
00:15:00No, it's okay.
00:15:01You were just dreaming.
00:15:02No, I was different.
00:15:03I was going.
00:15:04Hold on, hold on.
00:15:07Here.
00:15:09Take this.
00:15:12Here, sit down.
00:15:16Sorry.
00:15:21That hasn't happened in years.
00:15:23What do you think triggered it?
00:15:25I don't know.
00:15:28I guess I've just been under a lot of stress lately.
00:15:31Like, moving back in with my mom after graduation has been really hard.
00:15:35Well, you won't have to worry about any of that this week.
00:15:38Your problems, your worries, your fucking mom isn't going to exist once we get out there.
00:15:46Thanks, Kate.
00:15:48You're a really good friend.
00:15:50Yeah.
00:15:55What's wrong?
00:15:58Nothing.
00:15:59I'm fine.
00:16:03Okay.
00:16:05Do you remember how earlier you asked us what we were looking forward to most on the trip?
00:16:10Yeah.
00:16:11I'm looking forward to the hike, but I'm just really not looking forward to what comes out.
00:16:19What do you mean?
00:16:21Like, for the past couple weeks, as we've been thinking about and planning for the trip,
00:16:26like, I can see it.
00:16:27I can see the woods, and I can see the trees, and I can see us.
00:16:32But I can't imagine what comes next in my life after I walk out of here.
00:16:38It's like my future just goes dark.
00:16:42Amy, you would tell me if something was wrong, right?
00:16:47Oh, yeah.
00:16:48No, of course.
00:16:49I...
00:16:50I'm fine.
00:16:51I just...
00:16:52I'm not...
00:16:53I'm not looking forward to the future, that's all.
00:16:57Sorry.
00:16:58I don't even know what time it is, but it's far too late to be having a conversation like this.
00:17:02You don't need to be listening to my bullshit right now.
00:17:05I'm here for you, okay?
00:17:08And...
00:17:09I was gonna wait until after the trip to give this to you, but...
00:17:12I think I should do it now.
00:17:23That is so sweet, Kate.
00:17:25This way, no matter how far we are, you'll always be able to find me.
00:17:30Oh, this is so beautiful.
00:17:35Okay.
00:17:38Yikes, okay.
00:17:39I think I'm gonna try to get a couple extra hours of sleep before we have to get up in the morning.
00:17:43Yeah.
00:17:45Thanks again.
00:17:46Yeah, of course.
00:17:47Just let me know if you need anything, okay?
00:18:05Come on.
00:18:06I'm gonna like...
00:18:07I was really happy.
00:18:08I was...
00:18:09I was just lucky.
00:18:10I got to get up here.
00:18:11How did I get up here?
00:18:12I got to know.
00:18:13I've got to get up here.
00:18:14Go on!
00:18:15I don't know.
00:18:16You want to get up here?
00:18:17I got to be taken down now.
00:18:18I'm going to get up here.
00:18:19I'm not happy to stay.
00:18:20I've got to be taken up here.
00:18:21Oh, my God.
00:19:21Good morning.
00:19:32You know, smoking kills.
00:19:35Don't worry. I only do it when I'm stressed.
00:19:38What do you have to be stressed about?
00:19:42Fucking dick.
00:19:51Wait. I have to check out.
00:20:04Not very inviting for a motel.
00:20:06Not meant to be.
00:20:07How did so many people go missing?
00:20:29Some people just want to disappear, I guess.
00:20:34How does that work?
00:20:35You think I know?
00:20:42Opportunity strikes.
00:20:44A door opens.
00:20:46Some people walk right through.
00:20:51Thanks.
00:20:51Thanks.
00:21:29Okay, you have your phone, right?
00:21:35Yeah.
00:21:36Oh, we should share our locations with each other just in case.
00:21:39I left my phone in the car.
00:21:41What?
00:21:42Why would you do that?
00:21:44Well, we're not going to get signal in there anyway, so I thought it might be nice to be
00:21:47offline for a couple days.
00:21:48Yeah, I need a break from all the work stuff.
00:21:50Seriously?
00:21:51I'm bringing mine.
00:21:52You never know.
00:21:53Yeah, same.
00:21:54You guys are stupid.
00:21:55All right.
00:21:55How much do you remember of this trail anyway?
00:21:58From when you were kids?
00:21:59Well, we walk more or less straight through the pines, then we hit the boulders and the
00:22:05foot of the first mountain before getting to the river on the other side, right?
00:22:09You remember all that?
00:22:11You don't?
00:22:13I mean, I remember some parts, but not that much.
00:22:15I've forgotten most of it.
00:22:18Huh.
00:22:18I don't think I ever forgot it.
00:22:22All right.
00:22:23Let's go.
00:22:23All right.
00:22:24Here.
00:22:24I like the round ones because I would fold it and make it like a chocolate.
00:22:44All right.
00:22:44Let's see how good your memory is.
00:22:46Sam, you got the map, right?
00:22:48I do not.
00:22:50Hey.
00:22:57I remember that first step so vividly for some reason, but the rest of them blend together.
00:23:08I think back to it often.
00:23:10I've had dreams about that first step.
00:23:13It's strange, right?
00:23:17How every step I had ever taken before that, from my first steps as a baby, were all leading
00:23:22up to that one.
00:23:25I wonder sometimes if I could go back and change just one thing, maybe just one step in my life.
00:23:33Maybe everything would be different.
00:23:36Maybe I wouldn't have ended up in those woods.
00:23:39Maybe I could go back and change just one thing.
00:23:43Oh.
00:23:44Boop.
00:23:49Hey, did I hear screams coming from your room last night?
00:23:53Yeah.
00:23:55Amy was sleepwalking.
00:23:57She's sleepwalking again?
00:23:58It was just last night.
00:24:00It's not a big deal.
00:24:03What?
00:24:05I don't know, Kate.
00:24:06I think it is a big deal.
00:24:07I mean, we're in the middle of the goddamn woods.
00:24:10But if she wanders off or gets hurt...
00:24:13Well, that won't happen.
00:24:15Oh, yeah?
00:24:15Why not?
00:24:16Because we're her friends and we'll take care of her.
00:24:19What's your problem?
00:24:23My problem is that pretty soon we're all going to go our separate ways.
00:24:26And Amy isn't going to have us to take care of her.
00:24:28You're being a real bastard, you know that?
00:24:30Yeah, and you know I'm right.
00:24:31Look, I know she's been dealt a hard hand and I know she's got her issues.
00:24:39But once we leave here, she's not going to survive, Kate.
00:24:41And I'm tired of all of us pretending like everything's going to be okay.
00:24:45She's navigated the strip really well.
00:24:47I mean, she figured out the path without even eating a map.
00:24:50Yeah, because it's not the real world, Kate.
00:24:51It's the woods, okay?
00:24:53Once she leaves here, she's not going to survive.
00:24:54I just feel like if we really are her friends,
00:25:01then we need to be able to be honest with ourselves about her.
00:25:04Honest about what?
00:25:08Something isn't right with her.
00:25:13Yeah.
00:25:14I agree that there's something wrong here.
00:25:20Yeah?
00:25:23Yeah.
00:25:24Yeah, I think you need to lighten up.
00:25:28Come on.
00:25:29Stop.
00:25:30Come on.
00:25:31That sucked.
00:25:32I wasn't afraid.
00:25:35What are you guys doing?
00:25:37Oh, wait, I want one.
00:25:38It's not even that far.
00:25:39They're on the...
00:25:40I could see you try.
00:25:42No, I could do it far.
00:25:43Let's see it.
00:25:43Let's see.
00:25:44Oh, we don't have any rocks.
00:25:45Ready?
00:25:47I have a pebble.
00:25:48I got a pebble.
00:25:49Okay, already on three.
00:25:50Oh.
00:25:51See that?
00:25:52Wait.
00:25:53Oh.
00:25:53That was pretty good.
00:26:15I'm really happy we're doing this.
00:26:16Yeah.
00:26:18Me too.
00:26:24Are you okay?
00:26:26Yeah.
00:26:27Earlier this week, I wasn't.
00:26:29I was, like, really sad thinking about how we're all not going to be friends anymore.
00:26:34Like, not in the same way that we are now.
00:26:37But then I started to realize something.
00:26:40Like, this trip, it's going to last forever in our minds, at least.
00:26:46So whatever we do out here, it isn't going to go away.
00:26:52Even if we do.
00:26:53And that kind of makes everything precious, don't you think?
00:27:00Yeah.
00:27:02I'm glad we're doing this.
00:27:03Okay.
00:27:04Okay.
00:27:09Okay, wait.
00:27:23Um...
00:27:24Okay.
00:27:25Never have I ever gone hitchhiking.
00:27:27Oh, you're full of shit.
00:27:30What about that time our rental broke down outside of Yellowstone?
00:27:32That's not hitchhiking.
00:27:33Yes, it is.
00:27:34No, it's not.
00:27:35We didn't know the person giving us the ride.
00:27:37He was just a nice guy.
00:27:38He was giving us a ride.
00:27:39So what?
00:27:40Hitchhiking is when you stand on the side of the highway with your thumb out.
00:27:43It's not hitchhiking.
00:27:44That's literally the definition.
00:27:44No, it's not.
00:27:45No, shut up.
00:27:46And you're on your way to California.
00:27:48We were already in California.
00:27:50Wait, you were in California?
00:27:51Yes.
00:27:52Yellowstone is in Wyoming, you dumbass.
00:27:54You guys suck.
00:27:55God forbid I be specific.
00:27:57God forbid.
00:27:58We should stop playing anyway.
00:27:59We know each other too well to play this game.
00:28:02All right.
00:28:05Let's try this.
00:28:07Wait.
00:28:12I don't hear anything.
00:28:17Oh.
00:28:19I don't think they had wolves in this part of the country.
00:28:22Probably coyotes.
00:28:24All right.
00:28:30Was that weird just now?
00:28:32I think it's beautiful.
00:28:36I don't know.
00:28:37I think there's something really special about the woods.
00:28:40Don't you?
00:28:41Uh, I mean, they're special because we have memories here.
00:28:46They're special because we're making them special.
00:28:49Right?
00:28:49I mean, yeah, but no, I think there's something else.
00:28:53Like, like an energy that the trees have.
00:28:58Like when we're out here, there's like a different.
00:29:00Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, Amy.
00:29:03Okay, enough.
00:29:04Seriously, stop.
00:29:06I mean, enough with the weird shit.
00:29:08Right, guys?
00:29:08Enough with the cryptic platitudes.
00:29:11Enough.
00:29:11I mean, what the fuck is wrong with you?
00:29:13I don't know what you're talking about.
00:29:14Oh, okay, what?
00:29:15So you're just acting this way because everything's fine?
00:29:17Really?
00:29:17Lucas.
00:29:18What?
00:29:18What?
00:29:21Go fuck yourself.
00:29:23Whatever.
00:29:30Was that necessary?
00:29:32What?
00:29:33You're telling me you haven't had it up to here with her weird bullshit?
00:29:41We're her friends, Lucas.
00:29:43We're supposed to be taking care of each other.
00:29:45What, by letting her spiral?
00:29:46By not questioning her when she's acting strange?
00:29:49Which, by the way, by Amy's standards, that's a pretty high bar.
00:29:52All right, it is day one of a four-day hike.
00:29:58Jesus Christ.
00:30:04All right, he shouldn't have said that.
00:30:06No.
00:30:08But you have to admit, she's been acting kind of weird.
00:30:12Yeah, but I don't know what to do, though.
00:30:21Well, you're going to apologize to her tomorrow.
00:30:23I'm not.
00:30:25And can you talk to her?
00:30:29Maybe she'll tell you what's going on.
00:30:32Yeah.
00:30:34I'll talk to her tomorrow.
00:30:37Go to bed for now.
00:30:38I'll talk to her tomorrow.
00:30:45What?
00:30:49You laugh.
00:30:50I fucking know.
00:30:51Come on.
00:30:52Don't look at me.
00:30:53It's funny.
00:30:54Don't look at me.
00:30:55You're just being a dick and, like, saying it.
00:31:08I'm not trying to.
00:31:19Like, it's you thinking I'm being a dick, but I'm not.
00:31:21Like, I'm just being, like, myself and, like, just, like, trying to, like, be fun for everybody.
00:31:26But, like, you think I'm a dick.
00:31:28You think they'll make up?
00:31:29What other choice do they have?
00:31:32I guess you're right.
00:31:33I don't know.
00:31:34I guess I hope this trip would be good for her, but now I'm worried it's just putting more pressure on her.
00:31:40Well, if this is too much pressure, she's not going to make it once we're in these woods.
00:31:43You sound like Lucas.
00:31:46Look, Lucas is an asshole, but he has a point.
00:31:50You're just going through a tough time, Sam.
00:31:58What?
00:31:59You're not wrong, but Kate, this isn't just about graduating.
00:32:03She's been going through a tough time for a long time.
00:32:13She's been going through a tough time for a long time.
00:32:43And so many people go missing about this Hunter one time.
00:33:12They found his coffee cup in an area they already searched, and it had, like, coffee, and he was overlooking the town, he was overlooking safety.
00:33:21So, like, he got killed, and someone drank his coffee.
00:33:23No, they found his remains 11 miles away from breaking up this.
00:33:26Damn, so someone was just, like, messing with him.
00:33:28And, like, I don't even know...
00:33:29What do you think about all this?
00:33:31About what?
00:33:32Bigfoot destroying our country?
00:33:34No, about people disappearing.
00:33:37Don't you think that's interesting?
00:33:38Uh, I guess. Sounds like it's just incompetence, though.
00:33:43Oh, my God.
00:33:45You guys have no sense of mystery. Like, what if it isn't? Do you think that people just, like, disappear in the woods?
00:33:51Uh, go missing, sure. Disappear? I don't think anything just disappears.
00:33:57Okay.
00:33:58I think that if you die out here, animals will eat you, or, like, you'll slowly decompose.
00:34:04But maybe, like, in woods as old as this, do you think people become absorbed by them?
00:34:15Like, become a part of the fabric?
00:34:19You mean, what are you talking about?
00:34:21Maybe. Maybe. Okay, wait. Maybe.
00:34:26Like, one happens first. Like, you decompose before your body does.
00:34:32I don't think I'm high enough for this conversation.
00:34:34No way!
00:34:35Hey! Insets over here!
00:34:38Coming!
00:34:40I don't think at that point, Amy really wanted to be here anymore.
00:34:45What do you mean by that?
00:34:46You could call her loopy, or strange, or untethered, and all of that would basically be true, but none of it really describes her.
00:34:59Amy lived in a doorway? A threshold.
00:35:03It's like, only half of her was ever really here to begin with, and the other part was somewhere else.
00:35:12Her own thoughts. Fantasy, you can call it whatever, but, again, none of it really describes where parts of her would disappear to.
00:35:22Sometimes, she was mostly here, other times mostly there, but, again, none of it really...
00:35:30She was never totally together.
00:35:34I think graduating really triggered her, or at least put her in a bad headspace.
00:35:40It's like she was finally going to have to choose to really be here in the world, and she couldn't do it.
00:35:48Do you think she became something else out there?
00:35:53I wouldn't say that. Whatever she did, it was all her.
00:35:58So you think she was faking?
00:35:59I don't think that either.
00:36:01Well, but you said she pretended to be possessed when she was a kid.
00:36:04No, I mean, she just wanted attention. She was in real pain.
00:36:09Well, what did she do back then? Like, how did she pretend?
00:36:11It wasn't all pretend.
00:36:13But you've said... I'm just trying to be clear.
00:36:14Look, she said she never locked me in that closet, and I believe her, and it wasn't her fault that it was on the far side of the gym and no one could hear me for hours.
00:36:23I was the one that fell in, and it's that...
00:36:26I don't understand how this is relevant to what we're talking about.
00:36:31Right. My apologies.
00:36:33We don't have to talk about it anymore.
00:36:35And we can cut all this.
00:36:36It's...
00:36:37It's...
00:36:37Amy.
00:36:39Aimee!
00:37:05Aimee!
00:37:07Aimee!
00:37:11Aimee!
00:37:13Aimee!
00:37:15Aimee!
00:37:17Aimee!
00:37:19What's going on?
00:37:20Aimee's gone, I think she's sleepwalking again!
00:37:22Aimee!
00:37:23What the fuck, are you sure?
00:37:24Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure!
00:37:25Aimee!
00:37:26Hey, wait, you can't run into the woods without a plan!
00:37:28Wait, she just did!
00:37:29Yeah, and she might be gone.
00:37:31Look, let's just spread out, okay?
00:37:33Just far enough that we can still see each other's flashlights.
00:37:36Okay.
00:37:37Maybe if we walk a little, we can find her.
00:37:39Wait, I...
00:37:40Let's do it!
00:37:41Okay.
00:37:42Okay.
00:37:43Yeah.
00:37:44Okay.
00:37:45Yeah.
00:37:46Okay.
00:37:47Okay.
00:37:48Okay.
00:37:49Okay.
00:37:50Okay.
00:37:51You can find yourself Bilder from thechl grades.
00:37:57Okay.
00:37:58Okay.
00:37:59Yeah.
00:38:01Look, if they look at your job agency, I can't grab a lot of time here.
00:38:03If you extend that relay charge through the meter, please call me either a one of our Recution?
00:39:05I thought I was gone.
00:39:23It's okay.
00:39:25No, I was about to disappear.
00:39:26You're right here.
00:39:28You're right here.
00:39:30You're right here.
00:39:31You're right here, right?
00:39:36It's okay.
00:39:37I feel like nobody would actually use that, you know?
00:39:58Like, I don't think it would actually be beneficial.
00:40:02Kate, stop working so hard and come get some breakfast.
00:40:08I'm okay.
00:40:09I also know, I want to know if it, if it's a poison or a place in the car.
00:40:29Lucas, I think something's wrong.
00:40:33What, with Amy?
00:40:34Yeah, I've been saying that.
00:40:36You know it.
00:40:38Yes.
00:40:40I'm not sure.
00:40:42This is about the whole sleepwalking thing.
00:40:44That thing that you said wouldn't happen out here.
00:40:46Yes, but just before you and Sam got there last night.
00:40:53What?
00:40:55It looked like she was disappearing.
00:41:00What, like physically?
00:41:01Yeah.
00:41:02It's a trick of the light.
00:41:08It's simple.
00:41:10Yeah.
00:41:12I thought of that too.
00:41:13Look, Amy's weird, okay?
00:41:15And annoying, but...
00:41:18I think she's basically harmless on this trip.
00:41:21And we only have one more night.
00:41:22And then we can turn around and head back into town.
00:41:24And Amy can check herself into whatever program she needs.
00:41:26Do you want to go back?
00:41:37No.
00:41:38Let's keep going.
00:41:40You sure?
00:41:41Yeah.
00:41:42I must have been imagining things.
00:41:43Everything's fine.
00:41:45Okay.
00:41:46It's your words, not mine.
00:41:48Look, I just got scared, okay?
00:41:50But I think it's a good thing we're doing this.
00:41:53I agree.
00:41:53I just want to make sure that you agree with yourself, you know?
00:41:59What's that supposed to mean?
00:42:02It means...
00:42:04I don't know.
00:42:06Amy's not the only one who's stressed on this trip.
00:42:09You're the one who planned this all out, even though you didn't have to.
00:42:12And you pulled us all together, even though, honestly, Kate, we haven't hung out in, like, months.
00:42:16It's a lot of pressure to put on yourself.
00:42:17I just...
00:42:18I don't know.
00:42:19I just want to make sure that all of this isn't getting to you either.
00:42:24Yeah.
00:42:26You're probably right.
00:42:28You need anything, you let me know, yeah?
00:42:30Yeah.
00:42:31Thanks.
00:42:33Let's get going.
00:42:39I mean, a lot of people are going to be hearing that bit for the first time.
00:42:41I know I certainly am.
00:42:42Do you really think that you saw her begin to disappear?
00:42:45I don't know.
00:42:50I've thought about it so many times, but I have no idea what I saw.
00:42:57What I think I saw.
00:42:59When you replay a memory that many times, it's like saying a word over and over again.
00:43:08Eventually, it loses all meaning.
00:43:10That's how this whole chapter of my life feels.
00:43:14I've repeated and repeated my story, not just to others, but to myself.
00:43:18And you would think that would give me some sort of clarity on the whole thing.
00:43:22But I feel more lost than ever.
00:43:25I'm going to ask a question that might be sensitive.
00:43:29Do you think that Amy was already planning something?
00:43:34I can't allow myself to think that.
00:43:36I can accept that my friends are gone, but I can't accept that it was always going to happen that way.
00:43:45I can't accept that what happened was anything but random chaos.
00:43:49So one of the camps online talks about the sort of weird woods theory, you know, like that there was something supernatural about the area of the place you were hiking.
00:43:58Does that resonate with you at all?
00:43:59There were no ghosts.
00:44:00There are no spirits.
00:44:02No goddamn Bigfoot.
00:44:04Okay.
00:44:04I was there.
00:44:05All right, all right, fair.
00:44:06But something weird did happen out there.
00:44:10I mean, how do you just change like that?
00:44:11How do you go from being friends with somebody to killing them?
00:44:14I don't know, Mike.
00:44:15And those hands.
00:44:18I'm sorry, I'm just hung up on that point.
00:44:20Did it seem magical?
00:44:22Magic isn't real.
00:44:22Well, then what do you think happened?
00:44:23I'm sorry, can I, uh, can I just, wait a minute.
00:44:26I'm sorry.
00:44:40I'm sorry.
00:44:43Come on.
00:45:13Come on.
00:45:43Come on.
00:46:13I, um, I get the feeling you're looking for answers I can't give.
00:46:21Something happened in those woods, but I can't figure out exactly what.
00:46:29Even for myself.
00:46:32These memories aren't a story.
00:46:39They're a burden.
00:46:43And part of what makes them a burden is they don't fit into a nice little narrative.
00:46:50There are no answers here because nature doesn't ask questions.
00:46:54So I think I'm just going to lay out what happened as best as I can, but I can't promise anything else.
00:47:07Well, that's fine.
00:47:10So we're right where the first trail ends and the second one begins, and then there's a ridge up ahead where we can rest.
00:47:35Do you remember any of the trail from when we did it and that was cool?
00:47:38Kind of.
00:47:39Not really.
00:47:41I don't remember, like, actual, like, trees and stuff, but I remember the feeling of going there.
00:47:47You know what I mean?
00:47:48Yeah, I know what you mean.
00:47:49And that's why you shouldn't drink lake water.
00:47:58Good to know.
00:48:00That's gross.
00:48:02Okay, I will not drink lake water.
00:48:04All right.
00:48:05This seems like a good place to take lunch.
00:48:08Okay, then.
00:48:10Oh, man.
00:48:11I'm starving.
00:48:11I feel like I've eaten more hiking on this trail than I do on my regular.
00:48:19I'm freaking out of a real accident.
00:48:23See this one over there?
00:48:25Yeah.
00:48:34The whole thing down.
00:48:36I guess that's true.
00:48:37And, like, what am I going to, like, I don't know.
00:48:39And then this other woman.
00:48:41She gave me a bag of pennies.
00:48:48Are you getting signal in here?
00:48:49I never get signal.
00:48:50It's my dad.
00:48:54Hey, what's up?
00:48:58Oh, my God.
00:49:00Is she okay?
00:49:04Yeah, no, I'm, uh, uh, I'm, like, a day and a half out.
00:49:10Uh-huh.
00:49:11Okay.
00:49:15Yeah, okay.
00:49:16I can do that.
00:49:17Mm-hmm.
00:49:18Okay.
00:49:23Um.
00:49:27Guys, my, uh, my mom was in an accident.
00:49:32What?
00:49:33Is everything okay?
00:49:36No.
00:49:36Uh, I, I, I think someone hit her car or something.
00:49:40I don't, I don't know.
00:49:42I, um, they said she was in the hospital and, and, and they don't know how much time she has.
00:49:47Guys, I'm sorry.
00:49:49I, I, I think I have to go.
00:49:51Yeah, sure, Lucas, anything you need.
00:49:53You can pack right now and turn back.
00:49:55Yeah.
00:49:55What?
00:50:08What?
00:50:10What do you mean we have to turn back?
00:50:12Amy, we have to go back.
00:50:14Uh, I, I know it's tough, but we just can't.
00:50:16So?
00:50:17So you wouldn't have even known that if your dad wouldn't have called, if we didn't, if we didn't have signal out here?
00:50:22Okay, let's just get going while we still have light.
00:50:25Yeah, Amy, I think we should all just go back together.
00:50:27Lucas can't carry all this stuff by himself and he doesn't deserve to be alone right now.
00:50:31And I do!
00:50:32Amy, you won't be alone.
00:50:34Yes, I will!
00:50:35When we get out of here, you're all gonna go back to your fancy new jobs and your nice families.
00:50:41And I'm just gonna be stuck where I always have been with no job and no money and no way out.
00:50:47Jesus, Amy, I'm sorry that the impending death of my own mother is so fucking hard for you.
00:50:51And I'm sorry that you're so fucked up that you can't even see where I'm...
00:50:53Why is that so important?
00:50:55It's just DNA that connects you.
00:50:57We are here because we chose this and this is real.
00:51:01Amy, Amy.
00:51:02Parents, everybody has those.
00:51:04But this, we will never have this again!
00:51:07Amy, I'm sorry that your mother is a bitch, okay?
00:51:09I am.
00:51:10But mine isn't and I love her and I need to be there for her.
00:51:13And if you're too fucked up to understand that, you...
00:51:15Ah!
00:51:16Ah!
00:51:16Ah!
00:51:18Ah!
00:51:22Ah!
00:51:23Ah!
00:51:24Ah!
00:51:24Ah!
00:51:24Ah!
00:51:29Ah!
00:51:30Ah!
00:51:31Ah!
00:51:31Ah!
00:51:31Ah!
00:51:32Ah!
00:51:33Ah!
00:51:33I miss you too!
00:51:46Amy.
00:51:52He fell.
00:51:53He fell.
00:51:54I did.
00:51:55You pushed him!
00:51:57You fucking pushed him!
00:51:59We saw you!
00:52:00I mean, what the fuck did you do?
00:52:03Was this your plan all along?
00:52:05Get us stuck out here and kill us so we can't fucking leave?
00:52:07Is that what you wanted?
00:52:08What the fuck is wrong with you?
00:52:10Why did you do that?
00:52:12Oh, my God.
00:52:13We don't know that.
00:52:15Oh, my God.
00:52:16Oh, my God.
00:52:30Hey, guys.
00:53:00When we get back, you'll tell them that I'm innocent, right?
00:53:04What do you mean?
00:53:07When they ask what happened, you'll just say that he fell.
00:53:10You won't tell them about the fight?
00:53:12Amy, of course.
00:53:13We'll figure it out.
00:53:15Wait a minute.
00:53:15Now you want to lie to the cops?
00:53:17Sam, we don't know that Amy meant to do this.
00:53:19I didn't mean to do it.
00:53:20I didn't do it.
00:53:21Why can't you trust me?
00:53:23Why can't you protect me?
00:53:25Amy, we will protect you, but we need to talk about what just happened.
00:53:28Sam.
00:53:30And what are we supposed to tell Lucas' family?
00:53:34Oh, so you think it'll make them feel better to think that their son was murdered?
00:53:37Two family tragedies in one day with no recourse?
00:53:41We don't know that this wasn't an accident.
00:53:42Kate, you saw what happened.
00:53:43I don't know what I saw.
00:53:46I just know that two of my best friends just got in the fight, and now one of them is dead,
00:53:49and the other one is really scared.
00:53:52She is.
00:53:52We just need to talk to Amy, calm her down, and figure out what we can do.
00:53:57Do you hear yourself?
00:53:58Do you fucking hear yourself right now?
00:54:00Sam, we have a long way back.
00:54:01You saw what happened.
00:54:02We need to get out of here.
00:54:03Don't you want to all go back on the same page?
00:54:04I don't give a fuck.
00:54:05We need to leave now.
00:54:06If she did do it, do you want her to be mad at us and hold me back?
00:54:11Come on.
00:54:11Think, Sam.
00:54:12Please.
00:54:13We can't leave her.
00:54:15We can't leave.
00:54:17Amy, please.
00:54:18Fine.
00:54:18We can talk to her, but we're getting out of here.
00:54:20Okay.
00:54:21Okay?
00:54:21Okay.
00:54:23Jesus.
00:54:27Amy?
00:54:29Amy!
00:54:30Where were you keeping your phone?
00:54:32I had it in the front one.
00:54:33Amy!
00:54:34Kate, fuck, it's not here.
00:54:36Are you lying to me?
00:54:37No, I had it right here.
00:54:38It's not in your pockets or something?
00:54:39Whoa!
00:54:40What the fuck, Sam?
00:54:42What?
00:54:43Look.
00:54:45Satisfied now?
00:54:45I'm not lying, Sam.
00:54:48Amy must have taken my phone and now we're really fucked.
00:54:53Amy!
00:54:54I'm sorry.
00:54:55Yeah.
00:54:56I bet you are.
00:54:58Amy!
00:55:09We can get you another water if you'd like.
00:55:11I felt like two of my best friends disappeared in minutes.
00:55:22Kate, do you want to take a break?
00:55:28I felt lost.
00:55:33I felt confused.
00:55:34Everything was different in that moment, though I still didn't know yet how different.
00:55:47When you're that deep in the woods, especially when you're scared, the openness can actually start to feel claustrophobic.
00:55:57Like, you can go in any direction you please, but going in the wrong one can be deadly.
00:56:08Life is everywhere, but the life you're used to is far away.
00:56:20Do you think it was Amy's intention to kill Lucas?
00:56:22I don't believe it was.
00:56:34I have to believe that.
00:56:37Why?
00:56:38Why?
00:56:38I think it's easier for me to think that I lost her that day than to think I never had her at all.
00:57:01I need to believe that Amy changed that day.
00:57:12Not that she revealed her true self.
00:57:18Lucas.
00:57:18Lucas.
00:57:19Lucas.
00:57:19Lucas.
00:57:31I think we should take turns sleeping.
00:57:51I'll take the first watch.
00:57:54You sure?
00:57:57I'm not going to sleep much tonight anyway.
00:57:58Yeah, that's fair.
00:58:03Don't even worry about it.
00:58:08This is so fucked.
00:58:17Do you think Amy pushed Lucas?
00:58:21Lucas.
00:58:28I don't know.
00:58:35What if she did?
00:58:38I mean, if that's the case, did we ever really know her at all?
00:58:43Or did something just come over her?
00:58:49That might be something we just have to decide for ourselves.
00:58:59That might be something we just have to decide for ourselves.
00:59:19Hold it like that.
00:59:35Hold it.
00:59:38Let's see.
00:59:39Lерь.
00:59:40Hold it.
00:59:41Hold it.
00:59:41Let's see.
00:59:42Hold happened.
00:59:43Hold it.
00:59:44Hold it.
00:59:45Hold it.
00:59:46End of him.
01:00:16Sam? Sam! I fell asleep. I fell asleep.
01:00:31What? What?
01:00:35I fell asleep. I fell asleep.
01:00:39You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. I'm so okay.
01:00:47You're okay.
01:00:49How do you think this all happened?
01:01:12Well, a billion years ago, a meteor laden with bacteria.
01:01:18Shut up, Sam.
01:01:19You know what I mean.
01:01:23I don't know.
01:01:26I don't know. I guess you don't really know a person.
01:01:30But is that it?
01:01:34Could we have done something?
01:01:39I don't know.
01:01:42I guess you don't really know somebody.
01:01:45But is that it?
01:01:46Could we have done something?
01:01:54Are you wondering if you did this?
01:01:57No.
01:01:58I mean...
01:01:59I just keep going back and wondering, wondering if we could have done something different.
01:02:12Was there a moment when we could or should have intervened?
01:02:17Maybe.
01:02:19Maybe not. I don't know. What's the point, Kate? We didn't do this to ourselves.
01:02:25I remember back in fifth or sixth grade, one time Amy's mom forgot to pick her up from school, so she called my mom and I from the guidance counselor's office to pick her up.
01:02:41And when we got there, it was late. Everyone had picked up already. And it was pouring. I mean, just coming down in buckets. And Amy was just standing there. In the rain.
01:03:04It wasn't even shivering when we brought her back into the car.
01:03:17I never asked her about that.
01:03:21Why she did that.
01:03:23Why her mom never picked her up.
01:03:31Hey.
01:03:33You aren't responsible for the death of our friend.
01:03:37Because you didn't ask her why she was acting weird one day.
01:03:43The other night.
01:03:46The other night I saw something.
01:03:50You saw something?
01:03:51When Amy was in the woods.
01:03:58She reached out her hand and she started disappearing.
01:04:04And I didn't say anything because I thought I was going crazy.
01:04:08And I still think I'm going crazy.
01:04:10But maybe if I would have said something, we would have turned around and Amy would still be here and Lucas would still be alive.
01:04:18And none of this would be happening.
01:04:34You don't believe me?
01:04:35I don't believe you're responsible for the death of our friend.
01:04:38But you don't believe that I saw what I saw.
01:04:40You just said yourself.
01:04:41It's crazy.
01:04:42Yeah, but I still saw what I saw.
01:04:47You want to know what I think?
01:04:50You want to know what I think?
01:04:51I think Amy was never really there.
01:04:57I think she was just some projection of whatever we needed her to be.
01:05:05Of a friend.
01:05:07Of a confidant.
01:05:10But I think she was always just a fucking ghost.
01:05:12No.
01:05:17No, I don't believe that.
01:05:18Then what?
01:05:19What do you think happened?
01:05:23I don't know.
01:05:30I don't know.
01:05:33I don't know.
01:05:34Okay, listen to me.
01:05:36None of this is your fault.
01:05:39Alright?
01:05:39When we get out of here, you're going to see that.
01:05:42We should get going.
01:05:51We'll be tired, but if we push through the night, we'll make it to the highway in a little
01:05:55over a day.
01:05:58Yeah, yeah, you're right.
01:06:00Yeah, can you pass me that?
01:06:12What was it like moving through those woods?
01:06:22I don't think I've ever experienced adrenaline in its pure state like that before.
01:06:34You're just going and going and it's not logical.
01:06:39It's just instinct.
01:06:41It's like your body remembers something that your mind has tried to forget.
01:06:48Explain that.
01:06:50Well, that's just it, right?
01:06:53Yep.
01:06:53Instinct comes from a time before explanation.
01:06:56It's not about rationality.
01:07:00It's your body trying to keep you alive and somehow it knows how to do that.
01:07:05Your feet carry you out when you have fear like that.
01:07:11Not your mind.
01:07:12And did you know where you were going?
01:07:17Yeah.
01:07:18I knew the general direction I was headed in.
01:07:21I started on the trail, but Amy was following me.
01:07:25I knew that.
01:07:27I also knew that if I stuck to the trail, I was dead.
01:07:30An obvious target.
01:07:31I had the map, some snacks, and I left the trail and just continued in the same direction.
01:08:01I had the map, some snacks, and I left the trail and I left the trail and I left the trail and I left the trail and I left the trail.
01:08:31I left the trail and I left the trail and I left the trail and I left the trail and I left the trail and I left the trail and I left the trail and I left the trail.
01:08:52I guess the rest is history.
01:08:53Amy disappeared.
01:08:55The authorities never found any trace.
01:08:57What do you think happened?
01:09:01I don't know.
01:09:08I guess she really did end up disappearing into those woods.
01:09:13She's part of them now.
01:09:16Well, Kate Reid, I want to thank you for sitting down,
01:09:21recounting your harrowing experience for us.
01:09:23We're grateful that you would choose us for this exclusive interview.
01:09:27Any final thoughts?
01:09:31No.
01:09:33That's everything.
01:09:46Thanks so much.
01:09:47I know that was rough. I really appreciate it.
01:09:48Thanks. Thanks for coming.
01:10:01Thanks for coming.
01:10:31No!
01:10:33No!
01:10:37No!
01:10:41No!
01:10:46No!
01:10:48No!
01:10:58Ah!
01:11:01Ah!
01:11:05Ah!
01:11:07Ah!
01:11:09Ah!
01:11:11Ah!
01:11:18Ah!
01:11:20Ah!
01:11:24Ah!
01:11:28Ah!
01:11:31Ah!
01:11:32Ah!
01:11:36Ah!
01:11:44爹
01:11:49爹
01:11:53爹
01:12:02爹
01:12:18爹
01:12:20爹
01:12:26爹
01:12:30爹
01:12:32Oh, my God.
01:13:02What happened?
01:13:22I don't know.
01:13:25I don't know.
01:13:27Oh, thank you.
01:13:30Oh, my God.
01:13:32Oh, my God.
01:14:02Oh, my God.
01:14:32Oh, my God.
01:14:33Oh, my God.
01:14:34Oh, my God.
01:14:36Oh, my God.
01:14:38Oh, my God.
01:14:40Oh, my God.
01:14:42Oh, my God.
01:14:43Oh, my God.
01:14:44Oh, my God.
01:14:45Oh, my God.
01:14:46Oh, my God.
01:14:47Oh, my God.
01:14:48Oh, my God.
01:14:49Oh, my God.
01:14:50Oh, my God.
01:14:52Oh, my God.
01:14:54Oh, my God.
01:14:55Oh, my God.
01:14:58Oh, my God.
01:14:59With this paleo echoing
01:15:02Calling us to a fountain
01:15:08Enrapturing and dangerous
01:15:13Very deep within these dreams
01:15:21You'll find me on my knees
01:15:26Crawl like till my fingers bleed
01:15:31Sticks and stones inside of me
01:15:36I'm not much for the biggest threats
01:15:43But this fills me with regrets
01:15:49This was never meant for your ears
01:15:55Your pretty bleeding head too
01:15:59I've come to make a home
01:16:13And it's a grave and unknown
01:16:18Under the rocket's stone
01:16:23In the dark and low
01:16:27You've got me on my knees
01:16:31You've got me on my knees
01:16:33You've got me on my knees
01:16:37So you've got me on my knees
01:16:39You're kind of moving your chest
01:16:41You've got me on my knees
01:16:43I've got you down my knees
01:16:45But now I'm still thinking, I'm just I'm not going to go into the oxide