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Smylie Kaufman Talks U.S. Open Challenges & J.J. Spaun's Victory
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6/17/2025
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And we are back. Hour number three for our coast to coast here on a Monday. Carver High here with
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you. And we start our number three with our good friend Smiley Kaufman. The Smiley Show
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right here on Sports Grid coming off of the U.S. Open at Oakmont. Smiley was out there.
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Have you dried off yet, Smiley? I guess that has to be the first question. Have you dried off yet?
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Well, now that you mention it, I just realized I need to take these shoes that I wore yesterday
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out of a bag that I got from the hotel room. There's no telling what they probably smell
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like. They're probably still so wet. You have no idea how wet these fairways were. I mean,
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it was every single step. It was like I was walking in a puddle. It certainly looked that
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way. And I'm actually going to start there. And listen, we're going to give JJ Spawn his
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deserved flowers and bouquets in a moment. But obviously, the course itself, as it usually
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is with U.S. Open, Smiley, they're kind of the story first, right? What about the course?
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And Oakmont was tough. I mean, to have one guy finish under par for the entire week, that's
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what they want. They want something like that at a place like this. I did think, though,
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Smiley, as much as we love this stuff and we love watching guys hack it up out of big rough
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and I like it was tough that they played and they finished yesterday and the kind of conditions
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that they were playing in for the final round of a U.S. Open. I thought it was a little too
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much. I mean, Sam Burns is hitting out of a pond on one hole. I don't think it would have
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mattered if he got the drop or not. I think that Spawn still would have won. But I thought
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the conditions were a little over the top, Smiley, in the back nine. And they should have
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waited till this morning. They probably should have. I think it was definitely a little past
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borderline. And the only comparison that you can possibly make is, OK, let's say this was
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a PGA Tour event. What what would the PGA Tour have done with the rule set that they have
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on site? And would they have deemed the conditions of the golf course to be playable? I think
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I think they probably would have waited a little longer to send the guys out to let the
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fairways try to just absorb a little bit of that rain that just came down for I mean,
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came down in buckets for like 30 minutes. And of course, I have USGA probably has a prerogative.
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They want to finish on Sunday night in primetime. And so so do we as a broadcaster. It isn't
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it isn't our decision. They they decide when when to go when not to go. But of course, I was
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happy to leave this morning. That's that was nice for me. But I'm with you. I'm with you. I mean,
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these guys, Mike, they train every single day to to have an opportunity to be, you know, in the mix
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on the back nine of a Sunday. And you hate to see, you know, just the quirkiness of really wet golf
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balls and having no control over how far the ball goes or left and right, which I understand is part
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of the sport. But when it gets to kind of a point where, you know, guys are literally hit like playing
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in conditions that never played in before. That's where I think he got a little dicey for sure.
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When guys are in the middle of the fairway, and they're hitting shots with enormous splashes of
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water coming out from the ball. That's kind of the telltale sign for me. But all that being said,
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Smiley, everyone had to play in the same conditions. And when you had a guy shoot 40 on the front,
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who was in the final two pairs and you're thinking, I mean, you were out there with him
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and you're thinking, all right, well, we're probably going to be leaning away from JJ here
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for the most part, because he's fallen out of it. The holes he played on 17 and 18,
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the shots that he made on 17 and 18, including obviously the 60 plus foot bomb putt to finish
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it out. I thought the drive on 17, the putt on 18, those are the two shots, Smiley, that won him
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the US open. And even the drive on 18, that's a very, very difficult drive at 18 to step up there
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and hit it right down the middle of that fairway. It was big time. And of course, like when you're
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walking up the fairway, it hadn't been raining. And then, you know, right as we get to his golf ball,
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it just starts coming down again. And so now you got this misty fog that's rolling in this,
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this rain that, that is basically coming in sideways. And you can't even make out the flagstick
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at 18. I'm, I'm looking around for it. I can't even find it, but all you can see is basically
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the green and a bunch of people. And he had 202 yards flushes, a six iron left side of the green.
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And I'm thinking, okay, that's going to be a difficult to putt. And then Victor goes next
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and he should have gotten casual water relief. Wasn't granted casual water relief at 18
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and then hits it in the exact same spot as JJ. And if you've seen any of the, the interviews with
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JJ after just talking about how it felt like it was destiny because his first one at San Antonio,
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like the same thing happened to him where Scott Stallings hits a shot out of the bunker and it
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goes right past his mark, giving him the exact read that he needed to have. And it's like, well,
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this is just destiny. And, um, and the, the wag putt, Mike, it was, it was a very difficult one.
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I got right behind the golf ball to see, you know, what exactly he was facing. The speed
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was going to be the biggest challenge. I mean, there was about six to seven feet of break,
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but the speed I thought was going to be really tough to, to get a gauge on because mainly it was,
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it was, you know, you got all this moisture on the green, it's dark, you're putting through this,
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uh, goalie in the green and then up over a Ridge. And. You know, luckily vector,
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hot would hit the same pup, but still he went up there and it, I mean, hit the part of his life.
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Just one of the coolest things I've ever seen in person and probably will ever see a guy to make,
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uh, 65 footer on the last hole to win the U S open. Yeah. Uh, and look, he could probably take
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that same exact part another 20 times and he probably missed 19 out of the 20. Right. But
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he made the one, he made the one, uh, right there. And look, even if he came up this short smile,
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he, all he had to do was tap it. He still would have won the U S open, but that's a way to finish,
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uh, the way that he did it. And look, I know this kind of feels out of nowhere to a lot of people,
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but this was a guy who his game has improved so much this year, lost in the playoff to Rory at
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the players. You've seen him move up the rankings this year. Looks like he's probably even going to
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get to play in the Ryder cup now because of all those automatic points that he's in the Ryder cup.
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What a hell of a life-changing moment for JJ spawn. Oh yeah. Last year he was on the brink of,
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you know, missing his car or losing his PJ tour card. And then a year later, he's having a breakout
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season. You know, him and Ben Griffin have been the two stars this season as far as just, uh, you
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know, breakout stars throwing Andrew Novak in the mix there too. But JJ spawn going second place at the
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players. And then first at the U S open, I mean, come on. I mean, that's unbelievable. I mean,
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I think any top player in the game would say that would be, you know, a, a really, really good season
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for them if they did those two things. And, uh, JJ spawn just out of nowhere has done it this season
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and, um, and has had multiple top fives, like you talked about. And, uh, he's, he's always been
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solid, Mike. I've played with him on tour multiple times. We always used to get paired together and it
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always seemed like to me with his game is that he just never quite believed in himself. Always was
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kind of like Eeyore out there always was really down on himself. Did never really look like he was
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having a whole lot of fun. Um, and, and the golf kind of gets you that way. It can beat you up.
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And I think the overall change in philosophy of just not being so hard on himself and just kind
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of going out and, and playing more confidently, that's been the motto for him this year. And then
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all of a sudden the talents come out and then a putter that's been locked up in jail for a long
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time, uh, has been really good this season. It certainly has. Uh, and we do have to turn the
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page quickly, smiley, because we go right into a signature event this week. And, uh, before you
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go, I got out just a little bit over a minute left. We go to Cromwell TPC river Island. We've got
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the travelers. I mean, let's go. We got Scotty. We got Rory. We got all the big names going right back
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at it. Who do you like this week? I like a lot of guys. Uh, I think so many, so many players come to
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mind. Cam Young's playing really good golf right now. Uh, he's like the one guy that really pops up
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for me. Just, he's just trending. It seems like to a potential win. Uh, I still, I still feel like
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Jordan has a good week in him. He's hitting it really well. And if he can just put, you know,
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he just, he just has too many like bad moments in a, in, in a tournament. If he can just keep those
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away, he's, he's hitting it plenty good enough, uh, to contend. So I really am cheering for him
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because I want to see him on this Ryder cup team. And I think he needs a really good week.
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My first two clicks this morning, Jordan and Cameron Young. Smiley coughed with the smiley show.
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Catch it right here on SportsCrit.
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