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Melanie Stansbury Claims Trump Admin’s Handling Of Tribal Affairs ‘Feels Like A Betrayal’
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6/13/2025
During Thursday’s Natural Resources Committee hearing, Rep. Melanie Stansbury (D-NM) spoke about the Trump Administration’s handling of tribal affairs.
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As time has expired, the chair recognizes the gentlelady from New Mexico, Ms. Stansbury, for five minutes.
00:06
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hello, Mr. Secretary. It's wonderful to have you here today.
00:11
We haven't had the opportunity to sit down, but I do hope that we do.
00:15
And I'm grateful that you're here to talk about the administration's budget for 2026.
00:21
And certainly, I know, personally, I have a lot of questions about the budget,
00:24
but I want to use the majority of my time today to really drill down on one of the core mission areas of Interior,
00:30
which is tribal affairs.
00:32
And I know that as former governor of North Dakota, this is an area that you've worked on in the past.
00:40
I know, at least from things I've read and folks have told me,
00:43
you're proud of your work that you've done with North Dakota's tribes.
00:47
And I know that many of our tribal leaders were actually very optimistic
00:50
when you were named as the secretary because of that background.
00:53
And so, I think it's within that context that the administration's handling of tribal affairs
01:00
since January has been so, I'll just say, perplexing and frustrating.
01:07
In New Mexico, we have 23 sovereign tribes, and I'm the vice chair of the bipartisan Native American caucus
01:14
here in Congress that includes Mr. Cole and Cherise Davids as the chairs.
01:20
And as I know you're aware, I mean, the issues that are affecting Indian country
01:25
because of the administration is vast.
01:29
And I'm literally hearing from tribal leaders every single day.
01:34
And amongst the many, many things that folks are saying to me is that they feel like
01:40
how the administration is approaching tribal affairs is not only broken, but feels like a betrayal.
01:46
And among some of the issues that come up over and over again is the proposed cut in this budget
01:52
of almost a billion dollars for BIA and BIE, the mass firings and layoffs of staff at BIA
01:59
that happened over the last few months, and of BIE, the firing of faculty at our two tribal schools,
02:06
which I'm sure you're well aware of, the loss of over 800 employees at BIA,
02:11
and the proposed consolidation of the BIA regional offices, freezing of grants for tribes across the country.
02:18
We had tribal leaders here just last week talking about they still have frozen grants.
02:25
Threats to revoking critical protections for sacred places like Chaco Canyon,
02:31
which I know BLM has reached out to our tribal leaders about.
02:34
We have an executive order that was revoked on consultation policies.
02:39
There's an executive order that proposes to turn BIE and tribal education into a school voucher program.
02:46
We have a reconciliation bill here that the president's trying to push that would eviscerate Medicaid
02:51
and food assistance to tribal communities, and just general chaos and fear.
02:56
And you're a CEO.
02:58
You come out of the business world.
03:00
And so I respect that quite a lot.
03:02
I grew up in a family of small businesses.
03:05
And I'll just say this in a very honest way here, because I think it needs to be said,
03:10
because many of our tribal leaders are afraid to say this directly,
03:13
because they don't want to have a bad relationship with the department,
03:17
because they need to have a good relationship.
03:20
What's happening at the department right now is not okay.
03:23
It's impacting all 570-plus tribes, and they are in crisis right now,
03:30
spending constant time trying to figure out how they're going to plan for their communities,
03:35
how they're going to finish projects, what they're going to do if these budget cuts go through.
03:39
They're in crisis.
03:40
And when they try to reach out to your office, when they try to reach out to Indian Affairs,
03:44
when they try to reach out to BIA regional staff, they're not hearing back from people.
03:50
And part of why they're not hearing back from people is because a lot of people got fired, right?
03:54
But also because there's a lot of, there's a culture of fear inside of Department of Interior.
04:00
And, you know, I know that there was a kind of shock and awe policy at the beginning of the administration
04:06
to try to winnow out some of the staff.
04:09
But because of the tribal trust responsibility, like, this can't continue.
04:14
It's not sustainable for our tribal governments.
04:16
So my ask to you in a very earnest way is that you will make space and create opportunities
04:25
to meet with tribal leaders directly, honestly, and have these honest conversations
04:31
that you'll fight to try to reverse the budget cuts that are in this budget
04:35
because our tribes can't sustain a billion dollars in cuts to BIA.
04:39
They can't.
04:39
And I know you know that.
04:40
I mean, most of this is contracts that go directly to tribes.
04:46
And to work to try to address these issues and ensure that there's real consultation with our tribes.
04:52
And I'm short on time, but Mr. Brigham, can I get your commitment that you'll do that?
04:58
I would love to follow up with you.
05:01
You've got some insights.
05:02
I'd like to start off with a meeting with you.
05:05
But if there's an opportunity to meet with the bipartisan caucus to have a more in-depth discussion
05:10
and listen to everything that you're hearing, I would look forward to that.
05:14
I would deeply appreciate that.
05:16
And Mr. Chairman, I'll just say very quickly, you know, I'm a former OMB-er.
05:20
I was a career staffer at OMB in the interior branch, and I know how that place works.
05:25
And I know this budget was shoved down the throats of our agencies,
05:28
and I hope you'll work with us to fix what's broken in it.
05:31
So appreciate it.
05:33
I yield back.
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