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Deborah Ross Absolutely Shreds Trump For 'Disrespect' To The Judiciary And U.S. Citizens
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4/18/2025
At a House Judiciary Committee hearing prior to the Congressional recess, Rep. Deborah Ross (D-NC) slammed President Trump for his "disrespect for the judiciary."
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A gentlelady from North Carolina, Ms. Ross, for five minutes.
00:03
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to the witnesses for being here today.
00:08
This is an extremely important issue for our country and for the future of our country.
00:15
But let me be clear before I ask my question.
00:19
Donald Trump's contempt for the judiciary is not new.
00:23
He has fought civil cases against him because of real estate deals and people he hasn't paid.
00:31
He's fought victims that he has sexually assaulted and he has been convicted of sexually assaulting.
00:39
His disrespect for the judiciary is based on his disrespect for anybody who doesn't let him do whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
00:50
And he is very dangerous right now because he is the president of the United States of America.
00:57
And we are seeing him treat the people of the United States of America the same way he treated those poor contractors he never paid.
01:07
The same way he treated women who he sexually assaulted.
01:11
He is doing the same thing to the United States of America.
01:15
So, Professor Shaw, on February 9th, Donald Trump told reporters that no judge, quote,
01:23
should be allowed to rule against his administration's unconstitutional changes to how our government operates.
01:31
And the next day, Vice President J.D. Vance posted on X,
01:37
judges aren't allowed to control the executive branch's legitimate power.
01:42
Now, just to be clear, does the president decide what issues judges get to rule on under our Constitution?
01:54
No, really since, you know, Marbury v. Madison, 1803, judges and the Supreme Court, right,
01:59
sitting at the top of the federal judiciary, have had the final word on the meaning of the Constitution
02:04
and the laws and the consistency of laws or executive action with the Constitution.
02:08
So, in our system, it has been the courts and not the president who have had the final word.
02:13
Thank you for that.
02:15
So, I am going to quote Fourth Circuit Judge Michael Ludig, who I can testify, no liberal.
02:23
I had a case in front of him.
02:25
He was a tough customer in the Fourth Circuit.
02:28
He was appointed by George H.W. Bush, and he recently noted in an op-ed for The New York Times,
02:36
quote,
02:37
A country without an independent judiciary is not one in which any of us should want to live,
02:43
except perhaps Mr. Trump while he resides in the White House.
02:48
Trump has railed against the federal judiciary for years, as I said in my opening,
02:52
and especially now that his administration is losing in courts nationwide.
02:58
So, Professor Shaw, what could Congress do to stand up against Trump's attacks on the judiciary
03:06
to ensure that it remains functioning, independent, and co-equal in our system of governance?
03:16
Well, you know, I certainly don't think resolutions of impeachment,
03:19
for no other reason than rulings that, you know, members disagree with,
03:24
are constructive from the perspective of preserving judicial independence.
03:28
I mean, one thing that I would imagine that bipartisan support could, you know,
03:31
easily rally behind is judicial security, right?
03:34
We are in a moment in which we have read about the U.S. Marshal Service concern
03:39
about heightened levels of threats to federal judges.
03:41
When there was an actual threat against Justice Kavanaugh in 2022 on a bipartisan basis,
03:46
security for Supreme Court justices was increased.
03:49
But I'm not sure that we've seen anything to that effect now.
03:52
So, shoring up judicial independence at a moment where, frankly,
03:57
there are not a lot of other functioning checks on the executive branch is, to my mind,
04:02
critically important.
04:03
And, you know, maybe that's one way this body could devote itself to doing that.
04:06
And then, going back to the impeachment issue that my colleague from Vermont discussed,
04:14
if Trump is successful in getting judges impeached in the House, I don't think he would be successful
04:19
with the final decision in the Senate.
04:23
Is he allowed to demand that a judicial nominee promise not to rule against him or his administration
04:31
if he, under his appointment power?
04:35
You know, there's nothing in the Constitution that speaks to that one way or another.
04:38
But it is certainly a very established tradition, bipartisan and longstanding,
04:43
that presidents do not secure commitments, in particular with respect to particular rulings
04:48
from nominees they are considering.
04:49
You know, certainly the Senate, in its advice and consent role,
04:53
could seek to enforce that longstanding principle by asking nominees if they have been, you know,
04:58
asked or have given any kinds of assurances.
05:01
But it would be wildly inconsistent with our practice for a president to seek such assurance from a nominee.
05:07
Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I yield back.
05:09
Gentle lady yields back.
05:10
Does the ranking member have a unanimous consent request?
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