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The Bold And The Beautiful S38E185 (Wednesday June 11 2025)
The Bold And The Beautiful S38E185

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00:00I won't allow Luna anywhere near us.
00:11You, the kids, the whole family.
00:15I promise Luna will not be a problem for us today.
00:21You have to understand why Finn would be hesitant to let you into his life.
00:25It's your fault!
00:27You kept me from my father.
00:29I never had a chance to have a relationship with him because of you.
00:33And I can't let Steffi keep me from him, too.
00:40I appreciate you taking a look.
00:43You know how I am with computers.
00:44It's a love-hate relationship.
00:47It's no problem.
00:49This will be an easy fix.
00:51But before you get too into that, I want to give you something that Beth drew for you.
00:58Ah!
00:59Wow, she really got...
01:03She got all three of us in there.
01:07You gotta tell her to sign it.
01:09We have a very talented little girl.
01:12We really do, don't we?
01:19Liam, you okay?
01:20Yeah, I'm okay.
01:21Just...
01:22I hate that I'm going to leave you two.
01:26I hate that I'm going to leave you two.
01:26Sorry.
01:49I'm not...
01:50I wasn't trying to be, like...
01:52a bummer.
01:53Hey, don't you dare apologize.
01:57What you're feeling is valid.
01:58I'm just happy to hear that you have some fight left in you.
02:04I do.
02:05I do. I think I do. I'm trying.
02:08I, um...
02:10How about first we fight in shining IT armor?
02:15Yeah, well, one of these days I'm going to teach you how to back up your storage.
02:17But, for the record, you don't have to come up with an excuse to check up on me.
02:24What?
02:26What's the best lot, what this is?
02:27No, totally not.
02:29I just...
02:30Maybe you wanted things to feel familiar, normal.
02:39I love normal lately.
02:42But you're not that bad at tech stuff.
02:44All right, well, I promise then that I will not come over under false pretenses
02:51as long as you promise that you will be here for as long as you can.
03:00I promise I'm going to do everything in my power to spend as much time as I can
03:06with the people I love.
03:08Your commitment to our daughter and to your family is admirable.
03:19Truly, Finn, we're so happy that you've been by Steffi's side through all of this.
03:23Couldn't have been easy given the circumstances, but you see what's important.
03:27My priority has always been Steffi and her family.
03:32Well, I feel your loyalty to me and the children, despite the fact that Luna is your daughter.
03:40Finn is the one person who wouldn't let me down.
03:43Luna, that is not true.
03:45It is.
03:46Oh, please don't give me that look like you're so surprised.
03:48I may not have been the perfect mother, but everything I did was for a reason.
03:55It was to protect you.
03:56From what?
03:57What, the instability of constantly moving me around?
04:01What, from moving me from one place to another?
04:03I had no roots anywhere.
04:05I barely had any friends because I was always the weird new girl.
04:09And let's not forget the revolving door of men, right?
04:12Even if a few of them were nice to me, made me feel included,
04:16they wouldn't stick around for long.
04:19I had to teach myself as a child to not get attached,
04:24to not rely on anyone else but me.
04:27So yeah, you're right.
04:29No, you weren't perfect.
04:32You were actually the worst mother in the world.
04:34I can't even begin to imagine what that must be like, knowing what you're facing.
04:52Yeah, it's, I mean, it's a struggle not to let it get the best of me, right?
05:01I, but believe it or not, there are these, um, there are moments, brief, fleeting moments where I genuinely forget.
05:11And it's awesome.
05:14Yeah.
05:17It's usually when I'm with the girls.
05:19And then, you know, reality kicks back in, and it's a reality that I can't quite believe is mine.
05:27But even, even after that, you know, the feeling is gratitude that I'm not alone.
05:33So, I don't think you'll ever have to worry about that.
05:40I'm here.
05:42And you got Steffi too.
05:43You both, you guys have been my lifeline.
05:50That.
05:51That.
05:52What?
05:52Right there.
05:53What you just said.
05:55You just referred to the two people who happen to be in the know about your condition as a lifeline.
06:02Which leads me to believe that you are grateful to have us to lean on.
06:06Which further shows me that you actually like having our support.
06:10support, which, you know, I conclude, I believe you could use maybe even a little more support.
06:18So, I think it would be a really great idea if you let the rest of your family know about your condition.
06:33Biologically, Luna is your daughter, but she is nothing like you.
06:36She doesn't have your heart, your goodness.
06:39I can't excuse what she's done.
06:41Even if knowing that I could have made a difference in her life will always haunt me.
06:46Don't do that.
06:48Don't go to the what ifs.
06:49It doesn't help anybody.
06:50I mean, you're a good man, Finn.
06:52Luna is a deeply troubled young woman.
06:55She's not my patient.
06:57But what about her crimes, the mind game she's been playing ever since she came to town?
07:02Luna latched on to some fantasy of a life she thought she was owed because of what she endured growing up.
07:07In her mind, killing Tom was the only way to get there.
07:10That's proved by what happened with Hollis and what happened with Steffi.
07:15She was unwilling to deviate from her plan.
07:18And while she claims that she's changed, clearly that's not the case.
07:22She firmly believes in the delusion that she's created.
07:25Well, that's why she blames everyone but herself for what's happened to her.
07:29And why she believes she should be a part of your lives without any new repercussions.
07:33She's lost all touch with reality.
07:37That's why she's dangerous.
07:44I spent my entire childhood needing connection.
07:48We had that.
07:49We were a pair.
07:51Us against the world.
07:52No Zawa power, right?
07:54This catchphrase that you used as a secret mother-daughter handshake was really just a way to manipulate me.
08:00No, that's not true.
08:01That's interesting.
08:02So you're telling me that this wasn't a way to convince me that I didn't need a father in my life.
08:06That we were better off, just the two of us.
08:10It wasn't easy for me to let my little girl down.
08:14And I thought I was comforting you.
08:16By what?
08:17By not allowing me to feel what I need to feel?
08:20By not letting me cry?
08:21That's not comforting.
08:22That's controlling.
08:24Just like Steffi, you want to dictate my life.
08:27You kept me from Finn my entire childhood.
08:29And now Steffi's trying to do the same to me as an adult.
08:31Oh, honey.
08:32No, no.
08:33I was robbed of a relationship with the one person who could have changed my life.
08:38And now I'm being ostracized.
08:40I'm certain that my life would have been completely different had Finn been allowed to be a part of it.
08:45I've already lost so many years without my dad.
08:47I can't lose anymore.
08:51I mean, I've already told you why I wanted to keep the diagnosis quiet.
09:05Well, I get your reasoning, but it doesn't mean I agree with you.
09:08I know, but it's my decision.
09:11Okay, let's say I had never found out.
09:14Steffi never told me.
09:16If it was too late, and I didn't get this chance, this opportunity to spend this time with you,
09:24I would have been devastated.
09:25But you do know.
09:32And while I am grateful for that, I didn't want to upend your whole life.
09:38You didn't.
09:39Well...
09:40Liam, everybody's life gets busy.
09:44We get preoccupied with our own issues.
09:46But something like this, it brings clarity.
09:50It brings perspective.
09:52And Bill and your brothers, they would want to know.
09:58Because they would give anything to be able to have this time with you.
10:01And that is a gift that you can give them now.
10:03So please take advantage of that.
10:14Luna's disassociating herself from her horrible crimes.
10:18Well, it's a coping mechanism.
10:19More like an excuse.
10:21Finn's right.
10:21It's extremely common for someone who's experienced trauma.
10:25She's lying to herself.
10:26She believes her actions were justified.
10:29So we should do what?
10:30Show us sympathy?
10:32Absolutely not.
10:32Believe me, I agree.
10:34Luna will do whatever she needs to do in order to make her fantasy reality.
10:38Because she had such a complicated relationship with her mother,
10:40and the fact that she's not taking any real responsibility for her criminal actions,
10:44I'm worried about the lengths she'll go to to secure your place in her life as her father.
10:50Well, that's not going to happen.
10:52Luna's beyond help.
10:53I mean, even mine.
10:54I would just feel so much better if she was behind bars.
10:56But she's not.
10:57She's free.
10:58Because Bill got her that ludicrous pardon.
11:03Hey, I promise you, Luna will have no place in her land.
11:07I know.
11:09I just hope Luna understands that.
11:12You can't keep making excuses about your upbringing.
11:16I understand it was difficult.
11:18Still no accountability.
11:21I have already admitted to making mistakes as your parent.
11:26I can take responsibility.
11:29Can you?
11:29You have got to stop using your childhood to justify the horrible things that you've done.
11:36Crimes that you've committed.
11:37Crimes that you tried to pin on me.
11:40This is on you, Luna.
11:42And you alone.
11:46So that's it then?
11:47You're going to abandon me?
11:48You're going to leave me because I'm not your perfect, easily manipulated little girl anymore?
11:53Fine!
11:54Go!
11:55I mean, everyone else has turned their backs on me already.
11:57I mean, Bill won't even help me.
11:58So, Bill got you pardoned.
12:02You owe your life and your freedom to that man.
12:08Trust me, Penelope.
12:11I'm going to make the most out of my freedom.
12:13And that means a future with my father.
12:15And nothing is going to stop me.
12:18Especially not Steffi Forrester.
12:28I don't want all the focus to be on me because I don't want my family just like constantly trying to do every single thing that they can do while they have the...
12:43Okay, like my dad, right?
12:44Dollar Bill Spencer.
12:45You think if he knew, he wouldn't spend every waking moment of his existence calling every single specialist there is?
12:52And it's like...
12:52What's so wrong with that?
12:54What's wrong...
12:55What's wrong with that is that what I want to do...
12:59What I want to do is spend my time with you and Beth and Steffi and Kelly while I am strong enough to enjoy it.
13:10While I am as strong as I'm going to be.
13:12Because there's no...
13:14There isn't capacity beyond that for me.
13:18Do you think that maybe you could try?
13:21Because they're your family, Liam.
13:23They wouldn't want to overwhelm you.
13:25I'm not saying...
13:25That would obviously not be their intention.
13:29But it's what would...
13:30Stop, please.
13:31Please, Liam.
13:33Listen to me.
13:35Heed my words.
13:37Okay.
13:40You have always been there.
13:42For the people in your life.
13:45At the drop of a hat.
13:47You've been such a source of strength for everyone else.
13:52Now can you please let us return the favor?
13:55It's...
13:55It still feels like asking too much.
13:57It's not.
13:58It's...
13:59It is not.
14:00I promise you.
14:02I'm one of the fortunate ones who knows about this situation.
14:08So I am able to take advantage of every moment that I have with you.
14:15Bill.
14:18Wyatt.
14:19Will.
14:19They deserve to have the same chance.
14:26So please, Liam.
14:27I am asking you.
14:32Don't be stubborn.
14:35You're already not alone.
14:37You already had help.
14:39So please let the people who love you rally around you and support you.
14:43Please.
14:46They deserve to know.
14:56Dad, I feel as though something's on your mind.
14:58Finn's not here.
15:00Obviously it seems like you don't trust what he said.
15:02It's not that obvious at all.
15:04I do believe that he wants to do what's best for you, for Kelly and Hayes.
15:08But you're a daughter.
15:11You know, your mom and I are always going to worry about you.
15:14You can't take a chance with Luna.
15:17She's too dangerous and unpredictable.
15:20I mean, I gave you my professional opinion, but I can only guess what she's truly capable of.
15:25I don't even want to think about the possibilities because she's already targeted you.
15:28Oh my gosh.
15:29So that's just it?
15:30What, I'm supposed to live in constant fear, always wondering who's lurking around the corner, what they're going to do?
15:37Look, I get what you're saying and I promise you I'm not going to let my guard down, but I can't let Luna control my life.
15:47I trust Finn.
15:48I trust Finn to keep me and our family safe.
15:52And if he says he's not going to have Luna in our life, I believe him.
15:58Okay.
16:00Well, what happens when Luna realizes she won't be part of Finn's life?
16:05And what?
16:22Liam?
16:22You back already?
16:26Hi, Dad.
16:26I can't.
16:32What are you doing here?
16:33Is Steffi here?
16:34No, but you still can't be here.
16:36I've had to see you.
16:37I have to talk to you without Steffi.
16:38Okay, that won't matter.
16:40I have told you how this has to be.
16:41I need you.
16:42I spent so much of my life dreaming about my father and how if he knew me, he wouldn't abandon
16:47me and treat me the way my mom did.
16:49That he'd take me away from all of it.
16:51And you know what?
16:52The reality is so much better than the dream now because it's you.
16:56And I know you feel the pull from me too.
16:58I'm your daughter.
16:59I'm a part of you.
17:00We have been over this.
17:01We have, but always with Steffi there.
17:04And she's not here now, right?
17:05So she's not here to sway your opinion or speak for you.
17:09And honestly, I don't really care about what Steffi thinks anyways because it's about
17:12us.
17:13You and me.
17:14Father and daughter.
17:16Dad, everybody else in my life has shut me out.
17:19And I don't think I could bear it if you did the same too.
17:21So please, Dad, tell me that you want me to be a part of your life.
17:24I have thought a lot about this.
17:26About you.
17:29And how I never could have imagined neglecting my own child if I had known.
17:33But I never could have imagined being in this situation and you put us here.
17:39You killed two people, Luna.
17:42You drugged and abducted my wife.
17:45You left her to die.
17:46You may be my daughter, but we will never have a relationship.
17:51No, you don't actually mean that.
17:53I do.
17:54And you can't come here to see me or my family ever again.
18:09You're allowed to see me.
18:13Transcription by CastingWords