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  • 09/06/2025
CGTN Europe interviewed Dr John Gong, Professor of Economics at the University of International Business and Economics in Beijing.
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00:00to Dr. John Gong, Professor of Economics at the University of International Business
00:04and Economics in Beijing. John, welcome back. Good to see you. I wonder to what extent perhaps
00:11the President Trump, President Xi phone call created the political landscape,
00:17the political momentum necessary for these talks.
00:22Well, first of all, thank you very much for having me, Jimmy. I think the phone conversation
00:27between the two presidents is the deciding factor. This round of talk is actually taking place.
00:33And I think, you know, this conversation is more than just about providing a political stage for
00:40this to happen. I think President Trump said, he mentioned that, you know, during this 90-minute
00:46call, the bulk of the time was spent on talking about the trade. So I would expect that the two
00:52great leaders did go into some of the, you know, larger details of this potential trade agreement.
00:57And I would expect that, you know, this talk will destined to generate some positive results
01:04for both countries. And probably as a big gift to President Trump's birthday, you know,
01:10which is going to be a few days coming.
01:13I'm sure, yes. I wonder how internal economic conditions in China, things like deflationary,
01:20factory gate prices, falling exports and so on. I wonder how much that's shaping
01:24China's approach to these negotiations.
01:29Well, I think China's economy is still doing okay. I mean, there are some headwings, but I think
01:34overall, it's tugging along. But I would argue that these challenges, these factors play a very
01:43minor role in its relationship with the United States with respect to this trade talk. I think this
01:49whole thing is not so much about solving China's economic problems. It is about responding to
01:55Washington's trade war against the entire world with dignity, with an equitable response and with
02:03respect. Just a few hours ago, United States new ambassador to China held a reception in which he made
02:14a speech. And he said, the most important thing is respect between the two countries. So I would say,
02:18you know, this whole talk is more about respect and that, you know, China will like to work with
02:24Washington to solve its trade concerns. But it has to be done in equitable, respectable manner.
02:30Given that, then, what would a win look like for each side in these talks? And I wonder how realistic
02:38that might be. Well, I can go into a little bit detail. I think the temporary agreement reached
02:46in Geneva a few weeks ago, set the stage for a further reduction of tariffs. I think from China's
02:56perspective, the major issue is respect to that 20% tariff associated with fentanyl. Now, this thing,
03:04I would expect today that it should be able to be taken out because United States recognizes that
03:11China is making great progress in helping Washington to solve its fentanyl problem. As actually recognized
03:20and mentioned by Nicholas Burns, the previous U.S. ambassador to China during a recent conference
03:26at Brookings Institute, he said that he had a conversation with the Ministry of Public Safety,
03:33which is sort of, you know, the combination of the director of FBI and the other intelligence
03:39communities in the United States. But in any case, they had a good conversation. And Burns said that,
03:45you know, China has done a great deal about doing this. They have arrested, you know, over 300 people
03:50involving this illicit trade, you know, for fentanyl. And, you know, this, and he said, I'm quoting him,
03:57he said this should be acknowledged by the United States.
03:59John, good to see you. Thank you for that. Dr. John Gong, Professor of Economics at the University
04:04of International Business and Economics in Beijing.

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