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  • 6/6/2025
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) takes questions about former President Biden's autopen use.
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00:00The focus that not only President Trump, but some of your Senate and House colleagues have made on investigating the Biden administration and his alleged cognitive decline.
00:08Do you think that's a good use of time?
00:10I think the auto pen is a valid thing to look at.
00:13I think it's a valid question to ask who ran the auto pen.
00:17In the past, White Houses have been particular about this.
00:20They have a login.
00:21It's not like anybody can walk over and auto pen a pardon.
00:23It's a pretty big deal.
00:24So I think it's a reasonable question to ask if you were running the auto pen, bring you in under oath and say, who told you to run the auto pen for the pardons?
00:32And I was thinking the president's got to tell you or you're going to say so-and-so told me.
00:36Then you go to him or her and you say, who told you?
00:39But if the ultimate answer is Jill Biden told me to do it or the ultimate answer is Jill Biden's chief of staff told me to do it, you've got a real problem.
00:46You've got a constitutional crisis in those pardons, really, and there could be a real problem.
00:50But somebody's got to ultimately say, and the question is, will they say this and be honest about it?
00:56Did President Biden direct them to do that?
00:58And this isn't like sending a constituent letter out.
01:01Like we might have a standard letter if you ask a question about Social Security and 5,000 people ask me that question and we have a standard letter and an auto pen signs it.
01:09This is law.
01:11And it's very important.
01:12Do you think there's a chance that President Biden didn't authorize the pardoning of his son, for instance?
01:15I think they looked at that when they said it wasn't the auto pen.
01:19That one looks like he signed that one.
01:20And he may have taken particular care in that one because it was personal to him.
01:25But I think that some of it could be, you could say, is overly broad.
01:29But I think the specific question of who ran the auto pen and who did they get permission from, I think is a valid question.
01:35I think we're going to get an answer to it, too.
01:37Do you think those investigations take away, offer a needed distraction for Republicans as you guys try to get together in this big view of the Hill?
01:44I don't know.
01:44I think they're just another issue.
01:46There's a lot of controversies.
01:48How many court cases are going on right now?
01:49I mean, there's two dozen court cases.
01:51So I don't know if you want to call them distractions.
01:54A lot of them are important questions.
01:55Can the president hire and fire certain people in the executive branch?
01:58And actually, I think he's going to win most of those.
02:00He's already winning a lot of those in court.
02:02I think you have to have the president have the ability to hire and fire the executive branch because then nobody would have the authority if he doesn't.
02:08But the legislative branch can't fire people in the executive branch.
02:11So I think he's going to win a lot of those cases.
02:13There's going to be cases on impoundment.
02:15You know, there's going to be a lot of cases decided.
02:17There's cases on deportation.
02:20So the courts have probably never been busier.
02:23But the interesting thing is the cases aren't as clear-cut as people on either side make them out to be.
02:28They are very debatable points of all these cases.
02:31But they're also defining separation of powers.
02:35You know, separation of powers are defined by the Constitution.
02:38They haven't really been adjudicated that much.
02:40There's going to be a lot that will happen under this Supreme Court that will solidify or define what are the separation of powers.
02:47Thank you so much.

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