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  • 6/5/2025
During Tuesday’s Senate Agriculture Committee hearing, Sen. Cynthia Hyde-Smith (R-MS) questioned Under Secretary of Agriculture for Natural Resources and Environment Nominee Michael Boren about timber production support.

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00:00Senator Hodge-Smith.
00:03Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you so much for being here today and your willingness to serve.
00:08And I'm really glad that Stevie is here today.
00:10We don't get very many little girls in here.
00:12So glad that you're here today, Stevie.
00:15You know, in Mississippi, we call ourselves the Wood Basket of the Nation,
00:19and you and I had a really good visit about that.
00:21But we play a critical role in the U.S. timber supply.
00:25We're uniquely positioned just to meet the growing meat demands.
00:30Of the timber needs here and the wood products, but we also ship them through our ports.
00:35Our port at the Gulf of America and down on the Mississippi River as well.
00:41But even in challenging times, public and private forests in Mississippi
00:45have been at the forefront of common sense forest management that helped keep us healthy, working, and productive.
00:52In the next Farm Bill, and through the Fix Our Forest Acts,
00:57we are currently being considered by the committee,
01:02we hope to create more opportunities to support this industry that's very critical to my state
01:08and to improve the essential tools that we need at the Forest Service
01:13to increase the pace and scale of active forest management in Mississippi and across the country.
01:19If confirmed, how do you plan to approach the management within the agency,
01:26especially when it comes to streamlining projects and the approvals of that,
01:31coordinating with state and local partners,
01:33and making sure decisions keep on-the-ground realities in mind?
01:38Senator Hyde-Smith, one of the things that I intend to do is learn more about Mississippi
01:45and how you've accomplished the things you've accomplished,
01:48because some of the projects that you've been involved in in Mississippi
01:53and some of the things that are going on in the forest in Mississippi
01:57are truly revolutionary and should be applied throughout the country.
02:02And I appreciate your example as a state.
02:05But really, I think what it comes down to is we have large tasks ahead of us
02:14with the Forest Service in all the areas you mentioned,
02:18and we need coordination with other entities, both state agencies,
02:23well, state agencies, but also user groups and other organizations
02:28that want to put skin in the game and be helpful.
02:33And I think that, you know, that can be a really, really good thing
02:37as we have not all the resources that we need.
02:41But one thing we need is help from senators and representatives.
02:46And you pointed out that we have a need for streamlining what we do.
02:51And there's some things that we probably can't streamline
02:54without streamlining some of our acts of Congress
02:58that might need a little tweaking so that they work appropriately,
03:02both for protection of the environment,
03:04because one of the things that's important to us
03:06is long-term health of the forests
03:07and sustainability of their usability for the people.
03:12So, you know, that's important,
03:15but also being able to get the right things done at the right time on the ground.
03:20And a good example of that would be after a fire,
03:22it's really important to use that timber now
03:26rather than wait and try and sell it in three or four years
03:29when it has no value.
03:30And there's some things you could do to help us with that.
03:33And we'll be glad to do it.
03:34In Mississippi, it's called hard work.
03:36Our successes are because of hard work
03:39and some really good programs with people willing to invest
03:43and people willing to commit.
03:46But, you know, we've been working on one particular issue for decades now,
03:50and I had the opportunity to mention that to you,
03:53namely developing the area around Lake Okissa
03:55in Franklin County, Mississippi.
03:58It's in the Homachita National Forest.
04:00It's in southwest Mississippi.
04:02Beautiful area, so much potential.
04:051,100-acre pristine lake down there.
04:09And it was built in the 1990s is when it was built.
04:13But you can fish all day long by yourself almost,
04:17and you can ski by yourself.
04:19We've got to develop something to capitalize on the potential around that area.
04:24In the 2018 Farm Bill, we worked really hard to include a provision
04:28that transferred 150 acres of the Homachita National Forest land
04:32to support economic development.
04:35And we're beginning to see that pay off significantly since that's signed into law.
04:40And we're very excited about that project.
04:43Some really good announcements just lately on that.
04:46But the goal of this effort is to enable smart, locally-driven development
04:51that complements the natural resources
04:54and increases public access that you have mentioned.
04:58And I look forward to continuing working with this committee
05:01in supporting economic development in this very, very rural area of Mississippi.
05:07Two small towns.
05:08One of them has a red light.
05:09The other one doesn't.
05:11But, Mr. Boren, please share how you view this kind of targeted land transfer
05:17for economic development
05:18and what kind of support the Forest Service could provide
05:21to ensure the success of this project,
05:24and both for the community and maintaining stewardship
05:27of the surrounding Homachita National Forest lands.
05:31Thank you for the opportunity to address that, Senator.
05:36I have to correct you from my personal point of view, though,
05:39which is I don't want to fish by myself
05:42when I've got nine grandkids that like to fish.
05:45So it's nice to have some friends, even if you have to create them.
05:50But in terms of your project at Lake Okissa, I think it's brilliant.
05:56I think it's replicable.
05:58I think it's the kind of thing that we need to try to do throughout our forests
06:04to increase access and use of the forests.
06:07I don't know that we would have to do it just the way you did it,
06:13but the idea is really important to get people opportunities
06:16to benefit from the use of the forests.
06:18And I look forward to, I mentioned to your staff
06:22that I would love to learn more about that project, and I mean it.
06:25I look forward to coming to your office and meeting with them
06:28and learning how we can replicate that elsewhere.
06:30I'd love for you to come to Mississippi, and I'll take you to Lake Okissa.
06:34Well, as long as I don't have to land at the, what did you call it,
06:41the Brookdale Triangle, because that's a scary place from what I hear,
06:45I'm happy to come.
06:47We'll leave that right there.

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