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  • 6/9/2025
Sa naganap na Dexter Balala hostage taking, nagkaroon ng maraming maling response ang mga pulis, at iisa-isahin ito ng mga journalists na sina Arlyn Dela Cruz at Michael Fajatin.

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00:00Welcome back!
00:01Like we said earlier,
00:02we're with Arlene De La Cruz,
00:05Michael Fahatin,
00:07and Mary Ong, also known as Rose Beck.
00:11Good morning!
00:14What is your opinion on your work
00:17or your situation?
00:19Wow, I don't know.
00:20Is it because you are in search of the truth
00:23or is it because you want it out?
00:26What is your opinion on you today?
00:28May meaning pa ba ang word na katotohanan sa inyo ngayon?
00:31So Arlene, naniniwala ka ba na patay na talaga si Abu Sabaya?
00:35Alam mo, hindi lang ikaw nagtanong yan.
00:37Andami, noong Friday pa.
00:39Andami, text message kung naniniwala ako.
00:42Ito yung pwede ko lang sabihin.
00:44Yung dun sa apat na nahuli nila
00:46na pinresent ng Southern Command,
00:48isa roon yung talagang nasa video
00:49nung in-interview ko si Abu Sabaya last November 25.
00:52That was last year.
00:54So, yung video na yun na pinapatunay na magkasama sila,
00:58indeed, close-in security nga siya ni Abu Sabaya.
01:01Ako, personal akong naniniwala na he was there sa encounter
01:05because yung mga gamit niya nandoon.
01:08Katya, yung kasama niya, yun ang nahuli.
01:11Kasi that person will never leave Sabaya.
01:13Very loyal yun kay Sabaya.
01:15Kung naniniwala ako na patay,
01:17ako, gusto ko pa rin makita yung bangkay.
01:20Gusto ko pa rin makatiyak na meron nga tayong napatay na Abu Sabaya.
01:26Pero kung nandun siya sa mismong encounter,
01:29doon sa sinasabing June 22 encounter,
01:31naniniwala ako na nandun siya.
01:35Hanggat hindi mo nakikita talaga, maaari pa.
01:38Dahil sa batas, pag walang corpus delicti,
01:42which means doubt.
01:42Walang body.
01:43There's always this doubt.
01:45For Michael, Michael,
01:47andung ka nung mangyari yung kay Dexter Balala.
01:52Syempre nakita mo yung pangyayari.
01:53First hand, nakita mo,
01:55sino sa tingin mo ang dapat managot?
01:58Yung katotohanan lamang.
02:00Because we are also in search for the truth.
02:02Mahirap na tanong yan.
02:04Kung sasabihin natin yung sinong dapat managot.
02:06Opinion mo lang naman.
02:07Hindi mo naman na, ano, di ba?
02:09Kung nandun ka nung simula hanggang tapos,
02:11makikita mo, maraming play of emotions eh.
02:14Makikita mo yung pagkananay mo,
02:15yung pagkatatay mo,
02:16yung concern mo sa bata unang una.
02:19Kasi it is not,
02:21hindi ito yung normal na coverage eh.
02:23You cannot be prepared for this coverage.
02:25Even me, mas marami ka ng eksperyensya.
02:28Kung nandun ka mismo doon sa lugar na yun,
02:29nung nakikita mo yung bata na pinututuwa ka ng kutsilyo.
02:32Kung nakikita mo yung bata na may sugat na.
02:35Kung nakikita mo yung bata na nagka-cry out for help sa nanay niya.
02:37Mama, mama.
02:39Iba na yung mararamdaman mo eh.
02:41Kung may pagkakamali man ang polisya,
02:44ang pagkakamali nila siguro,
02:45hindi ako yung dapat magsabi na,
02:47yung mga superiors nila,
02:48dun sa dapat nilang training na isinagawa
02:50o yung kasanayan nila
02:51sa paghandle ng sitwasyon na ganun.
02:54Ang pagkakamali siguro,
02:56eh, hindi tayo handa pa
02:58sa ganitong klaseng,
03:00grabing sitwasyon
03:02na kailangan pala dito,
03:03ekspertong,
03:04ekspertong pagkahandel.
03:06Yeah, pero diba,
03:08I mean, after something like that,
03:09kailangan nga bang may mangyari pang ganun
03:11para ma-realize natin na
03:13hindi ba pala tayo handa.
03:15Maraming story sa Pilipinas,
03:17ito sa analogy ko,
03:18na kinakailangan may mangyaring ganito
03:21para magkaroon tayo ng awareness.
03:23Kailangan talaga may mangyari
03:25para magkaroon ng awareness.
03:26Oo.
03:27Sabihin mo na,
03:28wala talaga yung training.
03:30Ang palpag,
03:31ang palpag dyan talaga,
03:33ang pulis.
03:34Straight.
03:34Hindi mo masabi,
03:35baka malay.
03:37Isa po siya.
03:38For me, no,
03:39dahil para sa akin,
03:41napakadaling i-body shot,
03:43yung i-wound mo lang siya, eh.
03:46Barilin mo sa paa.
03:48Siguro kahit hindi pulis
03:49ang nasa eksena na yan.
03:51Tayo na lang.
03:53Or barangay.
03:55Or kahit mga kabataan na nanduan.
03:58Kayang-kayang nila yung sitwasyon na yun.
04:00Dahil yung killer,
04:02I mean yung hostage taker,
04:05ay nasa isang wall.
04:06May chance talaga na napakadaling kunin siya, eh.
04:10Pero ang palpag dyan,
04:12ang pulis.
04:14Kung sinong dapat sisisihin
04:15yung senior officer or what,
04:19basta pulis.
04:20Bibigay ng orders.
04:21Kasi I understand,
04:22you have to be given orders
04:23before you can take action, di ba?
04:25Paano ang ating pulis ngayon,
04:26puro pogi points.
04:27Parang I could feel na
04:29nung nasa senaryo na yun,
04:32nakita nilang may camera.
04:34So parang ayaw pa nilang tirahin.
04:36Dahil nandyan pa yung camera, eh.
04:38Pero kung walang camera,
04:38baka tinira na nila?
04:39I would think so.
04:40Umabot nga sa punto
04:41na yung media nga ang sinisisi.
04:42Dahil nakaharang daw yung media,
04:44na yung mga lente doon
04:46ng aming camera
04:46ay nakaharang,
04:47hindi sila magpunan
04:47ng doon view.
04:49Ito lang yun.
04:50Kung ang tanong natin,
04:52dapat na ba siyang
04:53i-neutralize
04:55or i-mame
04:55or kung ano man
04:56ang terminolohi natin
04:57na para matigil yun.
04:58Dalawa yun, eh.
04:59Intent to kill.
05:01Mayroon siyang intent to kill.
05:03Tapos meron siyang,
05:03yun nga,
05:04ang intent to kill niya,
05:05the fact that meron na siya
05:06nakatutok.
05:07Nakatutok.
05:08Tapos imminent danger.
05:10So imminent danger,
05:11you can see.
05:12Obviously.
05:12Obviously.
05:12Pero two hours
05:14ang hinintay, ha?
05:15Two and a half hours.
05:16Dalawat kalahating oras.
05:17Since nung dumating kami
05:18at natapos yun,
05:19dalawat kalahating oras
05:20yung naglapse ng period.
05:22So yun nga.
05:22Tapos yung eye level pa ng bata,
05:24yung bit-bit niya,
05:25hanggang dito lang.
05:26So,
05:27pwede.
05:28Libre.
05:28He was even saying.
05:30Didn't you even think
05:30yung nandudong ka,
05:31yung parang,
05:32kung kaya ako,
05:34ako na lang itong gagawa.
05:35Eh, kasi parang,
05:36di ba?
05:36I mean,
05:36yun o siya.
05:37I don't know if I'm allowed
05:39to say this.
05:39Na wala pa namang
05:40ganong kaso.
05:41Nung nandun ako,
05:42I was the first one there.
05:44Hindi ako nag-volunteer
05:46na kumausap.
05:47Lumalabas sa ibang mga pahigan
05:48sa mga komentaryo
05:49sa kabilang istasyon
05:50na sinasabi nila
05:51nakikilap.
05:52Inabutan ko siya.
05:53I was technically
05:53one foot away
05:54from that suspect.
05:57Hindi ko mapangkit
05:58yung pangalan niya.
06:00Kaharap na kami.
06:01The police was saying,
06:02you talk to this guy,
06:03you talk to Michael
06:03and he's our friend.
06:04Kausapin mo siya,
06:05kaibigan natin siya.
06:05So I did not volunteer
06:07any na mag-negotiate.
06:09Nakikipag-usap ako sa kanya
06:10based on sa sinabi nila.
06:12So nung wala pang gaan
06:13nung median dumarating doon,
06:15nakita ko nga yung kutsilo.
06:16So sinabi ko sa polis
06:17ang gagawin ng plano.
06:18Kinakausap ko yung mga polis ko
06:19anong plano nila.
06:20So wala pang plano.
06:21Hihintayin doon yung ground commander.
06:22Wala pang plano.
06:23Wala pang plano at that time.
06:25So I volunteered.
06:26Sabi ko nga,
06:27sabi mo nga,
06:27na malapit na ako sa kanya.
06:29Sabi ko,
06:29kukunin ko yung kutsilo.
06:31Agawin ko yung kutsilo.
06:33Pero pag hawa ko sa kutsilo,
06:34dadambulin natin lahat.
06:36Diba?
06:36Kasi hindi ko trabaho yung...
06:37Baka naman ikaw lang.
06:38At mo,
06:39nag-plano pala kayo.
06:40Nag-plano.
06:41May planong gano'ng ination.
06:42May planong gano'ng gano'ng.
06:45Siyempre,
06:46si Rose Bad,
06:47nung ano,
06:47nung i-expose mo
06:48ang leaders ng drug trafficking
06:50dito sa Pilipinas,
06:51syempre,
06:52kahit paano naging aware
06:53uli ang mga tao,
06:54parang natarantan na naman
06:55ng lahat.
06:57At this point,
06:58naniniwala ka ba
06:59na talagang
06:59nabawasan na nga
07:01ang mga drug traffickers
07:02dito sa Pilipinas.
07:03O nag-lilo lang.
07:04Medyo nagpahinga lang sila
07:06sandali and they're back.
07:07Na hanggang ngayon talagang
07:08talamak pa rin
07:09ng drug trafficking.
07:12Ang nakikita ko
07:13ay
07:13mas marami ng huli ngayon.
07:15Pero
07:16hindi pa rin nababawasan.
07:19Yan ang paniwala ko.
07:20So mas marami lang huli.
07:22May mga hinuhuli.
07:23Yung mga small timer
07:24na huhuli.
07:26Hindi naman mahuhuli
07:27ang mga big timer.
07:28Dahil lagang meron
07:29kung hindi police,
07:30official,
07:31ang kanilang mga protector.
07:34Is that really the case?
07:36Yes.
07:37Dahil lang
07:38maraming hindi
07:39nakakaintindi dun
07:40sa pag-expose ko.
07:41Akala nila
07:42isang personalidad
07:43ang kinakalabang ko.
07:45Hindi ko namang
07:46akakalain na
07:47nag-senador siya.
07:48Dahil nung
07:49kinalabang ko siya,
07:50siya yung chief PNP.
07:52Hindi pa siya senator.
07:55Nung kinasuhang ko siya,
07:56chief PNP pa rin siya.
07:57Ang kinakalabang ko,
07:59yung sistema na
08:00paano mo mahuhuli
08:02ang mga big time drug lord
08:04at kung sila-sila rin
08:07ang nagprotektor.
08:09Yung mga bata nila,
08:10pati na mismo
08:10ang chief PNP.
08:12Yun ang kinalabang kong sistema.
08:15Kaya kung hindi natin
08:16maipakulong
08:17ang mga taong
08:18involved,
08:21eh,
08:21there will never,
08:22it will always happen again.
08:24Minsan,
08:24for me siguro
08:26yung expose ko,
08:28I'm just very happy
08:29na
08:29nagkaroon ng awareness
08:31ang taong bayan.
08:33Yung mga mothers,
08:34mga parents,
08:36awareness sila ngayon
08:37na
08:38drugs is all over.

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