Prakriti and Purusha || Acharya Prashant (2020)

Acharya Prashant

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00:00So as we are saying now that the material part of us is Prakriti and the immaterial part

00:09is seeking for Mukti.

00:11So is this just a model for helping us to understand or else is this factual?

00:20It's a model.

00:21It's a model because the body itself is a model.

00:25What do you mean by a model?

00:26That which represents something.

00:31Whatever you can think of or conceptualize is just a model.

00:35Because if it is not a model then it ought to be the truth.

00:42It is not the truth obviously because the truth is not bodily.

00:47So every word is just used to model something.

00:52When we are speaking we are actually modeling.

00:57A model and a concept are fundamentally the same thing.

01:01So it is a model but it's a very very useful model.

01:06Useful for whom?

01:09For one who is...

01:11For the body?

01:12Yeah.

01:13Useful for?

01:14Purush.

01:15The Purush.

01:16Purush itself is the model.

01:18Right?

01:19But then there is somebody who is dissatisfied.

01:20We can consider the structure of the mind itself is like that entangled.

01:32And we are modeling this way to understand it.

01:37That's right.

01:38Because there is nothing else that can reach the mind except words.

01:43And every word is an exercise in modeling.

01:47So it is a model.

01:49There is no doubt about it.

01:51But then what else can be used?

01:53Rather we can look at the mind as a mechanism.

02:05Whatsoever is mechanical within you, that is Prakrati.

02:15Right?

02:16And then there is something that is dependent on the body.

02:20And yet not satisfied with just things bodily or material.

02:30That is what is called as Purush.

02:33That Purush is not Atma.

02:35That Purush is consciousness, Chetna.

02:41That consciousness is very much dependent on the body.

02:45If your head is banged with a hammer, consciousness will take a beating.

02:57Right?

02:58So the situation of the Purush is that it is in a relationship with the body and yet that

03:09relationship will never satisfy it.

03:15You know just like the husband and wife thing.

03:18Or man woman thing.

03:20So the entire body you could say is the wife.

03:28I am not trying to have any gender connotations here.

03:36But then that is the thing.

03:39The entire body is the wife.

03:43And then there is the husband who is definitely attached to the body.

03:50As I said, if you bang the body with a hammer, the consciousness too will suffer.

03:57It is not that just the brain will take a beating.

04:02The consciousness too will suffer.

04:05But then the brain is not consciousness.

04:08Though the consciousness is definitely dependent on brain, there is some relationship.

04:17And consciousness is not merely dependent on the brain.

04:20It is actually dependent on the entire body.

04:24Even if your knee is hit with a hammer, it affects your consciousness.

04:30Does it not?

04:34But is the consciousness the knee?

04:39The consciousness is not the knee.

04:41The consciousness is similarly not the brain.

04:44But it is in a relationship with the brain.

04:49And that consciousness seeks liberation.

04:53All spirituality addresses not the brain but that urge of the consciousness to get liberated.

05:05Therefore, those who apply only the brain in comprehending the spiritual notes, definitely end up misinterpreting.

05:18Because the ones who are bringing spirituality to you are not talking to your brain.

05:26They are speaking to your consciousness.

05:30What is the difference between brain and consciousness?

05:32Brain is that which comprehends using its well settled old patterns.

05:40Brain is a system, a mechanism.

05:44It is a pattern.

05:46It is a particular way.

05:49Consciousness can go beyond the old ways.

05:54Spirituality brings something new to you and the brain with its old ways cannot decipher that.

06:01But consciousness can, though it would stretch the consciousness.

06:07It would demand a lot from the consciousness to really know what the seers are saying to you.

06:14But still, it is within the capacity of consciousness to get a whiff of what an Upanishad is saying to it.

06:23The brain, brain can make no sense.

06:25The brain can at most translate.

06:29The brain can at most interpret like a computer.

06:34Can a computer understand?

06:38You can have artificial intelligence or what so ever.

06:42But can a machine or a process or a system ever understand?

06:51Understanding is a function of consciousness.

06:53Not anything that has weight.

06:55Not anything that is bodily or material.

06:59If an awakened mind gets knocked up with a hammer, will it forget everything?

07:06The Vivek you mentioned.

07:10Whatsoever is in the purview of memory is prone to be forgotten.

07:18Because memory is very much bodily.

07:22Memory resides in the cells.

07:25Memory is a material thing.

07:28So you can hit the brain of an awakened one with a hammer.

07:33And everything that was in the purview of memory would be gone.

07:40Do not believe in fancy miracles.

07:59That won't happen.

08:02If you shoot a so-called awakened person, he will bleed.

08:08That's Prakriti.

08:10There very now.

08:17You have never been destroyed.

08:19You have to sieve with a coinling без membours.

08:22You have to die.

08:24Where is the body that drowns you up?

08:26You have to die.

08:27But then another one wants you.

08:28Another one wants you to die.

08:30This is a natural tool.

08:32It's a natural tool.

08:33You have toена the way beyond connect to me.

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