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Jared Moskowitz To Marco Rubio: 'I Would Have Voted Against Your Confirmation As A National Archivist'
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5/27/2025
At a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Wednesday, Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL) spoke to Sec. Marco Rubio about his role as National Archivist.
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Representative Moskowitz. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, let me extend my condolences
00:05
to the Connolly family. Jerry's wit will be missed in this Congress. And so in the spirit
00:12
of Jerry, let me say, Mr. Secretary, that I am deeply disappointed and find your performance
00:18
as the National Archivist extremely underwhelming. And just for the record, we don't get to confirm
00:25
here in Congress, but if we did, I would have voted against your confirmation as the National
00:29
Archivist. That vote never happened, so. I know. I want to talk about Iran for a second,
00:36
okay? I'm deeply concerned about the language that I'm seeing from the isolationist wing
00:42
of the party. And I've been kind of shocked that the administration seems to be tougher
00:48
on Canada, Greenland, than they are on Iran. The Ayatollah insults our president if the language
00:55
coming from the Ayatollah was coming from Canada or Greenland or the EU, the president wouldn't
01:01
stand for it yet. He allows it from the Ayatollah. Is it your recommendation, I understand that
01:08
you can't guarantee what Trump would or would not do, but it is your recommendation to the
01:12
president that he sign no deal that allows Iran to keep enrichment?
01:16
Well, here's the answer to that question is, the president has made clear that Iran will
01:22
never have a nuclear weapon. He's also been clear, and I think you've seen this in statements
01:26
over the weekend, for example, that Ambassador Whitcoff did on television and the like, that
01:30
if you have an enrichment capability at any level, you are but steps away from nuclear weapons.
01:36
Of course. So I think that's why the no enrichment piece is so important.
01:39
Right, of course. And that was the issues that many people had with the JCPOA, is they felt
01:44
that it kept the enrichment capability along with ballistic missile capability, which Iran
01:48
now has, okay, a delivery system. And so what I'm trying to figure out is, you know, there
01:55
are many players in this, and I'm going to ask about those, but is it your recommendation,
01:59
should the president ask of it, I assume he would, is it your recommendation to the president
02:02
that he sign no deal that keeps their ability to enrich?
02:05
Yeah, and he doesn't need that recommendation because he's already said that.
02:08
Okay. Is it the vice president's position in your conversations with VP Vance that he also
02:14
does not believe Iran should have any enrichment capability?
02:16
Well, I'm not going to describe our conversations, but I can tell you the vice president's completely
02:20
aligned with the president and his foreign policy.
02:22
So that is his position then?
02:24
The position that they shouldn't have enrichment.
02:25
Yeah, is that the vice president?
02:26
Yeah, if they have enrichment, then they will have a weapon.
02:29
Or at least there'll be a near, and everybody in the administration has been consistent on
02:32
that.
02:33
Okay, what about Mr. Whitcoff? Is it his position that Iran should not be able to have any enrichment
02:38
capabilities?
02:39
He has said so in public interviews as recently as this weekend.
02:41
Okay.
02:42
That this is not an enrichment deal, what level Iran gets to keep enrichment.
02:45
What they have said is if Iran wants a civil nuclear program, like they want to have nuclear
02:49
energy, there's ways to do that.
02:50
Other countries have done it without enrichment.
02:52
That opportunity is available to Iran if they seek it.
02:54
They haven't been interested in it because they want to keep enrichment.
02:57
That's the crux of what we're facing here.
02:59
So any deal of the Trump administration is not going to look anything like JCPOA.
03:03
Is that your position?
03:05
The Trump administration has been very clear that Iran will not get to enrich because if they
03:08
enrich their threshold nuclear power.
03:10
Okay.
03:11
I want to shift for a second.
03:13
There was just a leak that is now national news that Israel is poised to strike Iran.
03:21
Where did that leak come from in the administration?
03:23
Do we know what department leaked that?
03:25
Is that being looked into?
03:26
Well, I'm not aware of the leak that you're discussing.
03:28
I'm obviously, I wouldn't discuss intelligence matters and even verify whether it's even true.
03:33
I also don't think it's a mystery though irrespective, I'm not talking about the leak, I'm not talking about the news story
03:38
that Israel has made clear that they retain the option of action to limit Iran from ever
03:45
gaining a nuclear capability.
03:46
I don't think that's a mystery, but I wouldn't comment if I had read the article, I wouldn't
03:50
comment on intelligence matters, confirm or deny them.
03:53
As far as leaks are concerned, I don't know.
03:55
I read stuff in the news every single day that I look at and say, I don't know where these
03:58
people are coming up with this.
03:59
Well, I mean, they're given polygraph tests in FEMA to determine where leaks are coming
04:04
from.
04:05
That's been well reported and not disputed by anyone in the administration.
04:08
That they're literally going, employee, employee, sitting them down, putting them up to a polygraph,
04:13
putting them up to an oxygen monitor, trying to test their heart rate to figure out if they're
04:19
leaking to the media.
04:20
Is that sort of same application that is happening in FEMA going to be applied to national security
04:26
team and to the State Department to figure out who is leaking?
04:30
As far as I'm aware, we've not conducted any polygraph tests at the Department of State.
04:35
Maybe we should, but we haven't.
04:36
Okay.
04:37
All right.
04:38
So I just want to be clear, because there is a lot of confusion, depending on the day,
04:45
the week, and a lot of the reporting that's coming out, is that any Iran deal, is it your
04:51
recommendation that that should go to Congress to improve?
04:53
Well, I actually think the law requires it.
04:55
If you recall, we passed legislation here a few years ago.
04:59
And it requires that Congress has a right to weigh in on any deal and could actually reverse
05:03
any deal.
05:04
I forgot the acronym for the bill, but it was one that was passed a few years ago, and
05:09
I was in the Senate when it passed.
05:11
It was after JCPOA.
05:12
Okay.
05:13
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
05:14
I'll go back.
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