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- Sheikh Waqas Akram PTI
- Dr Musadik Malik PMLN
- Faisal Karim Kundi (Governor KPK)
Modi Ki Geedar Bhapkiyan - Waseem Badami Ka Modi Ko Karara Jawab
"America Nay Bharat Ko Mushkil Mein Dal Diya Hai...", Aizaz Chaudhry's Analysis
What was the reason for Ali Amin Gandapur's non-participation in two important events?
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Host:
- Waseem Badami
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- Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry (Former Foreign Secretary)
- Sheikh Waqas Akram PTI
- Dr Musadik Malik PMLN
- Faisal Karim Kundi (Governor KPK)
Modi Ki Geedar Bhapkiyan - Waseem Badami Ka Modi Ko Karara Jawab
"America Nay Bharat Ko Mushkil Mein Dal Diya Hai...", Aizaz Chaudhry's Analysis
What was the reason for Ali Amin Gandapur's non-participation in two important events?
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00:30I didn't even know who would win the match.
00:32Lahore Qalandar won.
00:33The date was calculated.
00:34Out of the last 4 finals, 3 Lahore Qalandars won.
00:38There were a total of 10 PSLs.
00:403 Islamabad won and 3 Lahore won.
00:42A lot of other records were made.
00:44More than 500 sixes were scored.
00:45I mean, a lot of records were made.
00:47But when we saw the second scene,
00:49because during this PSL,
00:50of course, PSL, Alhamdulillah, is such a thing
00:52because of which Pakistan is in the headlines
00:54for good reasons.
00:55And during that time,
00:56when this Pakistan-India tension arose,
00:58then PSL couldn't stay without being affected by it.
01:00After that, when it started,
01:03we saw what great scenes there were.
01:04That stadium,
01:05about which the Indian media had said
01:07that this Pindi Stadium has been destroyed,
01:09for which they were tweeting.
01:11There, we saw that there was no one else.
01:13There was a crowd of people.
01:16Joshu Kharosh was on his feet.
01:17But we saw that the head of the Pakistan army,
01:20Field Marshal Asim Munir, was present there.
01:21You are also seeing this scene
01:22in which you can also see the ARY
01:24and Karachi Kings' leadership.
01:26All this has a lot of importance in terms of its optics.
01:29After all the frequent appearances,
01:31the leadership of Afwaj,
01:32all this has a lot of symbolic significance.
01:34The position of Field Marshal,
01:36has a lot of symbolic significance.
01:37Which is also being discussed there.
01:39That sir, here,
01:40that is, it is being discussed in India
01:41that people are celebrating in Pakistan,
01:45giving the title to their army chief.
01:47And here, in our country, the atmosphere is something else.
01:49So this, and after that, when it was finalized yesterday,
01:52Pakistan's history's
01:54first such big cricket match was held yesterday.
01:5734,000 people were seen in Qazaafi Stadium, Lahore yesterday.
02:01And the world saw these amazing scenes.
02:03They saw the magnificent display of fire.
02:05What else did they not see?
02:06So, Alhamdulillah,
02:07Pakistan has crossed another milestone
02:09in a very magnificent way yesterday.
02:12It seems that Pakistan is repeatedly giving these reasons,
02:17with its successful wisdom,
02:20to the people of Pakistan,
02:21to the political leadership of Pakistan,
02:22to the Afwaj of Pakistan,
02:23because of which a person is sitting across the border,
02:26who has the future of billions of people in his hands,
02:31and who is ready to touch every limit of stupidity.
02:34Perhaps this is causing more pain,
02:35seeing these scenes and seeing many other scenes.
02:38Now, when I am talking to you,
02:39then a great meeting is going on in Iran,
02:41of the Prime Minister of Pakistan
02:43and the highest leadership of Iran there.
02:45That is why we have seen the testimony.
02:47By the way, Modi does not need any reason.
02:49He is a strange and poor stupid man.
02:51And I tell you,
02:52keeping all my biases aside,
02:54I am of the opinion that he is a strange and poor stupid man,
02:57who has the power of the world in his hands.
02:59To prove my point,
03:01I will show you a few hours ago,
03:03what Modi said in a meeting.
03:07Factually correct and incorrect are two different things.
03:10You see, does a person from the position of Prime Minister
03:12give importance to this tone,
03:13this thing, this stupidity, this stupidity, this idleness,
03:16this stupidity?
03:17Does he give importance?
03:19First, you see,
03:20Narendra Modi was talking to you a while ago,
03:22and in which he,
03:24all of you have seen that scene,
03:25when the white flag was waved at the Indian square.
03:29But Modi is claiming something else here.
03:31He is talking in a strange and poor way.
03:32See what he is saying.
03:34India has shown the form of Raudra.
03:38And finally,
03:40it was the strength of our army.
03:43It was the strength of our army.
03:46It was the strategic operation of our army.
03:49Within a few hours,
03:51Pakistan started waving the white flag.
03:56Now the whole world has seen
03:58who waved the white flag.
04:00First thing.
04:01Second thing.
04:02Sometimes you say that Pakistan ran and went to America.
04:05That's why the war stopped.
04:07Sometimes your Prime Minister says that America was nowhere in this matter.
04:10America was in America.
04:12Sometimes you say that Pakistan waved the white flag.
04:15Third thing.
04:16You went to end terrorism.
04:19We were saying from the first day that we don't want war.
04:21If you force us, we will respond.
04:22And we did that.
04:23But you were saying that we went to destroy the Marrakesh of terrorism.
04:28You were saying that we went to make Pakistan conscious.
04:31So if Pakistan had waved the flag,
04:33then why did you stop?
04:34Did you have mercy on Pakistan?
04:36You said, okay, don't say bad things.
04:38Why did you stop?
04:39This is the proof that you were being beaten.
04:41And it was a very severe beating.
04:43It was also hitting the embassy.
04:45It was also hitting the military.
04:46That's why you said that now it's your turn to stop this matter.
04:50Otherwise, why did you stop?
04:51Now, look at the next conversation.
04:53Before that, let me show you.
04:55In Pakistan, at this time, the whole nation of Pakistan,
04:57we were telling you again and again.
04:58We were telling you that you people have done a great job.
05:01With your unity.
05:02With your unity.
05:03Because the enemy thought that there is a small country against us.
05:06There is a small defense budget against us.
05:08There is a small economy against us.
05:09There is a polarized society.
05:10There is a divided society.
05:12There are problems.
05:12There are disagreements with institutions.
05:13I don't know what the youth is thinking.
05:15He wanted to take advantage of all this.
05:17You proved everyone wrong in a jolt.
05:19That we have all our own problems.
05:21But where are you, brother?
05:22Where did you come from?
05:22When you come, we will forget everything and become one against you.
05:26An example of this is that until yesterday we were playing PSL.
05:28So, some boy from Karachi, some from Lahore, some from Peshawar.
05:31Now, when these boys will play against Bangladesh after three days.
05:34And someone will make a century out of it.
05:36So, will we say that someone from Karachi Kings made a century?
05:38No, we will say that Pakistan made it.
05:40We will all forget who was from which team.
05:42So, in this way, we all forgot.
05:44Come, everyone forgot.
05:45And because of this, you saw, on every level.
05:48Our youth, our youth were appreciated a lot.
05:51Now, the translation of Fahad-e-Pakistan.
05:53Again and again.
05:54Our youth, youth leadership.
05:57Thank you very much to the youth.
05:58First of all, look at this in these words.
06:00The whole nation, especially the youth, is grateful for the passion, courage and full support.
06:07We are also grateful to the youth of Pakistan.
06:10Who became the soldiers of the front line on the basis of cyber and information.
06:15Okay, you heard it.
06:17Now, listen to a conversation of Narendra Modi, which we will tell you a little while ago.
06:21You see for yourself, that a person of the level of a Prime Minister.
06:25I mean, these words, these styles.
06:28Brother, this is not your Bollywood movie.
06:30This is not a movie.
06:32You see for yourself and decide that this man is mentally capable.
06:37To rule a country of billions.
06:39Forget about Pakistan.
06:40Isn't this a threat to world peace?
06:42This foolishness of a man.
06:44You see his tone and see his words.
06:46Go ahead.
06:47To free Pakistan from the disease of terrorism.
06:52The people of Pakistan will have to come forward.
06:55The youth of Pakistan will have to come forward.
06:58Live a life of peace and tranquility.
07:01Eat food.
07:03Otherwise, I will have a bullet.
07:06I mean, I am not even getting angry about it.
07:10I am not able to take it so seriously that I am angry that what has he said to us.
07:14I am laughing.
07:15Is the movie going on?
07:16The people of Pakistan, eat food.
07:18Otherwise, I will have a bullet.
07:19Brother, what has happened?
07:20I mean, it's a good thing.
07:22If someone comes from any background, we have a lot of respect.
07:24That someone has come from anywhere.
07:26It's a good thing if someone grows like this.
07:28But no mind, no shame, no shame.
07:31I mean, is there anything good?
07:32What has happened?
07:33This is a strange situation.
07:35Let's talk about it.
07:37And along with that, the real problem, I think,
07:39is that you see, the real problem,
07:43is that maybe Modi was thinking of something else.
07:46But Pakistan has done a strange thing.
07:47Pakistan has done a very wrong thing.
07:48What is that?
07:49Pakistan has attacked India.
07:51What we have done is wrong.
07:54Show me, in what words did Modi express this?
07:58Instead of supporting India's action on terrorism,
08:04Pakistan has started attacking India.
08:08On terrorism.
08:09What he said is that Pakistan has attacked India.
08:12I think this is the problem.
08:14I mean, you have attacked India.
08:16What have you done?
08:17This is the problem, I think.
08:18And now when we are talking to you,
08:20Pakistan has, on one hand,
08:21in the leadership of Bilawar Bhutto Zardari Sahib,
08:23and I think this whole matter is very important,
08:26has made a delegation
08:28who will market in the world what has happened,
08:31what this man is doing.
08:32On the other hand, when I am talking to you right now,
08:34an important meeting is going on right now.
08:36The Prime Minister of Pakistan,
08:37the political leadership of Pakistan,
08:38the government leadership,
08:39the leadership of the Pakistani army,
08:41Asim Munir Sahib,
08:41Shahbaz Sharif Sahib,
08:42all of them are present in Iran.
08:44A little while ago,
08:44the Supreme Authority of Iran,
08:46the spiritual leader,
08:47the leader of the season,
08:49met Ali Khamenei,
08:52the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
08:53He has also tweeted,
08:55Ali Khamenei as well,
08:56and Shahbaz Sharif Sahib said,
08:57you are seeing the scene,
08:58you see that as well.
08:59He says that recently,
09:00during the Pakistan-India withdrawal,
09:02Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif,
09:03has thanked Iran for supporting Pakistan.
09:07In this meeting,
09:08Field Marshal Asim Munir,
09:09Mir,
09:10Mr. Ishaq Dar,
09:11Mohsin Naqvi Sahib,
09:12and Atta Talar Sahib were present.
09:14The Prime Minister of Pakistan,
09:15has declared Ali Khamenei,
09:16the Supreme Leader of Iran,
09:18as the pillar of the Muslim Ummah.
09:21The personality of Ali Khamenei,
09:24holds a prominent position in the Muslim world.
09:26This is what the Prime Minister of Pakistan had to say.
09:28For the leadership and leadership of the Muslim Ummah,
09:31is looking towards the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei.
09:35The Prime Minister,
09:36praised Iran's leadership in the nuclear talks with the US,
09:40and praised other powers as well.
09:42And during this time,
09:43Ali Khamenei's tweet,
09:45if we can show that as well,
09:47please show it,
09:47in which he says,
09:48over the past years,
09:50Pakistan has had a very good,
09:52and strong position,
09:53on the Palestinian issue.
09:55So again, this is a big thing.
09:56We know that,
09:58the issue of Palestine,
09:59Iran's popularity is very high,
10:01and to give an opinion on someone from Iran's side,
10:04is very important in many ways.
10:06And of course, for us,
10:07this issue is very close to our hearts.
10:09To be said from Iran's Supreme Leader's side,
10:12that in the past few years,
10:13Pakistan has held a very strong position on Palestine,
10:18a very good position.
10:20This is a very significant statement.
10:24He says,
10:25while in recent years,
10:26there have always been temptations for Islamic countries,
10:30to have relations with the Zionist regime,
10:32Pakistan has never been influenced,
10:35by these temptations.
10:36To sum up,
10:37on such an occasion,
10:38that when in many cases,
10:40there was a lot of confusion,
10:41or such an atmosphere was created,
10:43that when big countries,
10:44were expressing their submission,
10:46to some other side,
10:48or to accept the Zionist state,
10:50Pakistan has never done this.
10:51So again, this is a very strong statement,
10:55from the Prime Minister of Pakistan as well,
10:57and then from Iran's Supreme Leader,
10:58Sayyed Ali Khamenei's side as well.
11:00We want to understand this from an international angle,
11:03the mindset of Modi as well,
11:05and how important the Iran issue is right now,
11:07that is why we have contributed.
11:08You have been our ambassador,
11:10of Pakistan in the United States,
11:12Mr. Izzaz Ahmed Chaudhry.
11:14Sir, thank you very much for your time.
11:15The other day, we spoke to you,
11:17and you said,
11:17you will not be surprised,
11:19if Modi does any foolishness again.
11:22What he is really saying,
11:24I was saying that,
11:26I will put aside all the biases,
11:28I mean, a person of the Prime Minister's level,
11:30is not such a fool,
11:31that he is saying,
11:32Pakistan's youth,
11:34eat your food,
11:34or else my bullet will...
11:35I mean,
11:36this man has gone mad,
11:38I mean,
11:39so now,
11:39this,
11:40what,
11:40the contractors of international peace,
11:43even they are worried,
11:44forget Pakistan,
11:45that brother,
11:46this country of 1.25 billion,
11:47how can he be a fool,
11:48what is he doing?
11:51Yes, Mr. Badami,
11:52you are absolutely right,
11:54I heard your intro,
11:56and,
11:57like you,
11:58we are all surprised,
12:00that,
12:00how did such a big country,
12:02lose its leadership?
12:04Earlier,
12:05so much arrogance,
12:06and so much pride,
12:08used to come in the voice of their external affairs minister,
12:12but this time,
12:14when our answer has been right,
12:17and the agenda has turned out to be so weak,
12:21so now,
12:21I feel that,
12:22they are getting desperate,
12:24because,
12:25you see,
12:25the people who have gone there,
12:27Mr. Shashi Taroor has gone there,
12:29they are not getting any kind of leadership,
12:32okay,
12:32if we meet them in Congress,
12:34then it will happen,
12:35but everyone asks them a question,
12:37that tell me,
12:37what is the evidence,
12:38on the basis of which you have taken such a big step,
12:41that you have made the world,
12:43I mean,
12:43a kind of nuclear war,
12:45you have calculated.
12:47So that's why,
12:47this time,
12:48their agenda,
12:50is very weak.
12:52And Mr. Izzat,
12:52it would be right to say,
12:53that the size of India,
12:54India's economy,
12:55India's influence,
12:56the way America wants India to be the governor of the region,
12:59America wants to put India ahead to go against China,
13:02keeping all this in mind,
13:04the world not saying anything in support of Modi,
13:08this is enough,
13:10I mean,
13:10this thing should also be understood against them,
13:12would it be right to say this?
13:13It would be absolutely right,
13:14because America gave them time in the beginning,
13:18in the beginning they said,
13:18we have nothing to do with it,
13:20you do whatever you want to do.
13:21And when they couldn't do anything,
13:24they must have thought,
13:25what kind of a horse are we preparing against China?
13:28They are stuck with Pakistan.
13:31So after that,
13:32you saw,
13:32Donald Trump,
13:34did not say anything negative about Pakistan.
13:39He also praised it in Congress,
13:41because Pakistan's case,
13:43the case is absolutely great,
13:45right,
13:46clean,
13:47which is said,
13:48the snake does not have a tail,
13:49that case has been filed.
13:51So I think,
13:52that America has put India in a very difficult situation.
13:57India used to say,
13:58we will not talk to Pakistan,
14:01they used to say that there will be no third party mediation on Kashmir,
14:05they used to say that Pakistan cannot hyphenate with them now.
14:10Now it is happening that wherever they are selling food,
14:13the issue of Kashmir is also coming to the table,
14:16and at the same time they are hyphenating themselves,
14:19that is,
14:19we don't need to do anything,
14:21they are doing it themselves.
14:22And Mr. Izzat,
14:23but is there another aspect to this,
14:25that when this man can do such stupidity,
14:28and is getting so desperate,
14:29failures are coming in front of him every day,
14:32then he can do some more stupidity in desperation,
14:34and we can see some such scenes again,
14:37which we do not want,
14:38war type.
14:41Yes,
14:41not immediately,
14:43but you must have heard from Mr. Yashwat Sinha,
14:45who has been a very big politician,
14:48the foreign minister,
14:49the treasurer,
14:50you must have heard about him,
14:52that he said that all of this is for the elections.
14:56Bihar's election is coming in October-November.
14:58Before the elections,
15:01this happened in Pulwama as well,
15:03and they won the landslide,
15:04but this time there was a beating in the elections as well,
15:06the reason for this is that they have been beaten.
15:09Now if they do something again,
15:11then surely again of some kind,
15:13now they will have more,
15:15because they have been exposed in front of the world.
15:17Now how will they answer the stars first,
15:20how will they do such a big action?
15:21And sir,
15:22towards the end,
15:23tell us,
15:24the Prime Minister of Pakistan has left,
15:25the army chief is with him,
15:27now when I am talking to you,
15:28he is sitting with the leadership of Iran,
15:29as I said,
15:30Mr. Shahbaz Sharif has such strong words for Mr. Ali Khamenei,
15:34that his personality holds a prominent position in the Muslim world,
15:38he is the pillar of the leadership of the Muslim Ummah,
15:40then to reciprocate him as well,
15:41and to make Pakistan's position in the Israel-Palestine issue,
15:45good, strong,
15:47and always unwavering,
15:49both these statements are of great importance in terms of optics,
15:53and of course keeping in mind that Iran is also a neighboring country.
15:57This is not just optics,
16:00this is also the reality.
16:01Pakistan has certainly supported the truth,
16:03and our position has always been strong.
16:05It is a good thing that the Prime Minister has left,
16:07we should thank those countries.
16:09Not a single country has stood with India,
16:11all these countries have stood with us,
16:13that is why we should have gone,
16:13and our own people who are going,
16:15we should go and present a very powerful agenda this time,
16:19and I am sure that we will do so,
16:21I have just come to know that all of us will go together,
16:24I think that all these people who have selected names,
16:26they are very capable people,
16:29we should send all of them separately to different countries,
16:32because all of them can tell our agenda very well.
16:36This time we have got a chance to show the real face of India to the world,
16:40and God willing, I think we will show it.
16:42Some people have started telling me,
16:45Mr. Badami, that why are we celebrating so much?
16:48I said, why not?
16:49First, we have achieved success,
16:51and secondly, in India,
16:52they are lying that they have won,
16:54they should also know that.
16:55Precisely.
16:56Their people should also know,
16:57that this is a success,
17:00and the criticism of their government is increasing,
17:04you are deceiving us.
17:05Thank you very much, sir.
17:06Thank you very much for your time,
17:07I completely agree.
17:08We are not saying that we should start war mongering,
17:10we are not saying that we should start the Galam Golo,
17:12but the repetition of this matter is very important,
17:16in my humble opinion,
17:17because the opposition party is such a liar,
17:20that they make Karachi win,
17:21they make Lahore Port occupy,
17:23the opposition party is so crazy,
17:24that if you look at their talks,
17:25if you look at our attitude,
17:26that our Afaaq's translator is saying,
17:28that the celebration on our streets right now,
17:32is not a celebration of victory,
17:33it is a celebration of peace.
17:34So, we are doing this.
17:35There, the Prime Minister is saying,
17:36you eat your food,
17:38or else the bullet is also ready.
17:39So, if such a crazy person,
17:40and we have done this in the past,
17:42that even if our case was strong,
17:44then we used to lose it on the table of jokes.
17:47So, I also think that this is a good matter,
17:50it should be propagated,
17:51it is not only for media, optics,
17:53or cameras, or tickets, or talk shows,
17:55it has far-reaching effects,
17:56all these things should be done.
17:57And before we move to our next guest,
18:00you should also see,
18:01that Donald Trump,
18:03what is his main statement about Iran,
18:06that is also very interesting,
18:07which will help us understand the global scenario.
18:11See, Donald Trump's statement,
18:13in which he is not saying anything with certainty,
18:16but he is also expressing hope.
18:18I had some very, very good talks with Iran,
18:20and see what happens,
18:21but I think we could have some good news
18:24on the Iran front,
18:26and I don't know if I'll be telling you anything good or bad
18:30over the next two days,
18:31but I have a feeling I might be telling you something good.
18:34We've had some real progress,
18:36serious progress.
18:38Iran talks have been going very well.
18:41So, on one hand, there is this scenario,
18:42that even in the world's scenario,
18:44the way all these matters are going on,
18:46in the context of America and Iran,
18:48all these things are a cause of great devastation
18:52for that India,
18:54which believed that Pakistan will become isolated,
18:58and the voice for it will rise in the world.
19:02And what happened,
19:04you saw in front of you,
19:05when the Mumbai attacks happened,
19:06the US President stood up and said,
19:09he stood up in India and said,
19:10that Pakistan will have to control the safe havens of terrorists
19:14within its borders.
19:16Where is that matter,
19:17and where is this matter?
19:18India was also saying that terrorists are inside Pakistan,
19:20and is still saying it.
19:21What was the reaction of the US at that time,
19:22and what is it today?
19:23This is the whole matter.
19:24Now, let's move forward,
19:25let's come to the politics of Pakistan,
19:29in which we have seen that today,
19:31Bani, on behalf of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
19:33on behalf of Imran Khan,
19:35his sister, Aleema Khan Sahiba,
19:37has given a clear indication,
19:41that some other movement is going on.
19:43What did Aleema Khan Sahiba say?
19:44First, you see what she said while quoting Imran Khan Sahiba.
19:48She has said that today,
19:49all the parties should prepare clearly,
19:53I will start announcing the mass movement,
19:57in the whole of Pakistan.
20:00There are many other things in this regard.
20:03Mr. Sheikh Waqas Akram,
20:05who is the Secretary of Information,
20:06of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
20:07who is getting the honor of talking to us after a long time.
20:11Huzoor, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
20:13Yes, Waalaikum-as-Salaam,
20:15How are you, Wasim Bhai?
20:16May Allah bless you.
20:17Yes, your blessings, sir.
20:18Thank you very much for giving me the time.
20:20Sir, first, please give a quick comment on this.
20:23Just a while ago,
20:24maybe it was passed by you,
20:25there was a statement of Modi,
20:26about 5-6 hours ago,
20:27he said something crazy.
20:29I want to say to the youth of Pakistan,
20:31the youth of Pakistan,
20:33eat your food,
20:34or else my bullet is ready.
20:36I am saying it again and again,
20:38that a minister's position,
20:39is such a small thing for a man,
20:40that it doesn't even bother him.
20:42But,
20:43Allah forbid,
20:44if due to his mindset,
20:46he does any other stupidity,
20:48then,
20:49it is clear to us,
20:50that the way it happened before,
20:51the way everyone,
20:52together,
20:53forgot everything,
20:54and took one opportunity,
20:55the matter will remain the same,
20:56completely forgetting the political divide.
20:58Mr. Sheikh Waqas.
21:00Sir, look,
21:01the first thing is,
21:02in Punjabi,
21:03I will use that first,
21:05and then I will tell you the rest.
21:06Okay.
21:07In Modi,
21:08all the Punjabis say,
21:09he is a chabal man.
21:10You understand,
21:11what you just said.
21:12Yes.
21:13He is a chabal man.
21:14So,
21:15when a man is a chabal,
21:16then,
21:17what will you expect from him,
21:18that he is the Prime Minister,
21:19and what is his glory,
21:20and what is not.
21:21And,
21:22I have heard,
21:23I have read somewhere,
21:24that chabal,
21:25this word,
21:26it cannot be defined,
21:27it cannot be told,
21:28it can only be shown,
21:29that this is how it is.
21:30So, this is how it is.
21:31That's it,
21:33you are a chabal,
21:34you know,
21:35the definition of chabal is being fulfilled.
21:36Okay.
21:37And,
21:38the Indian media is doing this,
21:39and the Indian people are doing this,
21:41the historical defeat that Pakistan has given,
21:43the nation has given to India,
21:45I think that,
21:46after that,
21:47Khan Sahib was rightly,
21:49I mean,
21:50Khan Sahib very rightly said that,
21:52he hates Pakistan,
21:54and he can try some kind of adventure again.
21:58That's why,
21:59we have to go towards the real unity.
22:01And,
22:02we can attain the real unity,
22:04only when,
22:05within the country,
22:06we stop the corruption,
22:07the victimization,
22:08that is going on.
22:09You see,
22:10Shah Mahmood Sahib,
22:11was taken to the judge,
22:12with him,
22:13on the stretcher,
22:14and he said,
22:15I have called the ringdar,
22:16Yasmeen Rashid is inside.
22:17They don't let their children meet Khan Sahib,
22:19they don't let their sisters meet him.
22:21They are doing injustice to him.
22:23To fix his case,
22:24we have to protest,
22:25in front of the High Court,
22:26in the morning.
22:27So,
22:28the real unity,
22:29that we can attain,
22:30only when,
22:31we stop the corruption,
22:32that is going on.
22:33Until,
22:34you can't attain that,
22:35this kind of,
22:36disgusting,
22:37cowardly,
22:38and divisive enemy,
22:39will keep showing us eyes.
22:40And,
22:41it is important,
22:42that there is talk of unity,
22:43and unity.
22:44So,
22:45I think,
22:46that with clarity,
22:47this victimization,
22:48of authority,
22:49should stop.
22:50The children,
22:51who were being presented,
22:52as terrorists,
22:53and terrorists,
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33:09I think they are eliminating the news.
33:12And there is nothing else.
33:14In the last few years,
33:16they have drawn a map of a magical break,
33:20which is called smoke and mirror.
33:23They had made a myth that in conventional warfare,
33:26we will do this to Pakistan,
33:28we will do that to Pakistan.
33:30Now, twice they were killed in conventional warfare,
33:34and that myth was broken.
33:36The last time when we dropped two ships,
33:39Prime Minister Modi himself said that
33:42if we had Rafale somewhere,
33:45then we would have blown their wings from the borders of our own country.
33:50They felt the lack of Rafale,
33:52he said.
33:53Yes, yes, yes.
33:54But like birds,
33:55Rafale was falling down,
33:57like birds fall.
33:59So that second myth of air superiority was also over.
34:03Then they had made a third trap,
34:05some S-400,
34:06or I don't know what number it was,
34:09S-100,
34:10that no stone can enter Pakistan,
34:13we will drop it.
34:15Oh brother,
34:16what a stone.
34:17The Pakistanis destroyed the batteries of that S-400.
34:22Then you had made a myth,
34:25that technology is used by the whole world.
34:28All the software engineers,
34:30America,
34:31Europe,
34:32India,
34:33all the Nobel laureate materials are in India.
34:40So now their satellites are jammed,
34:43their radars are also jammed,
34:45their ship's radars are also jammed,
34:47their electricity is also off.
34:49So that technology superiority,
34:51that myth they had made,
34:53that was also over.
34:55Now you complain,
34:57that they lost the war,
35:00that there was a diplomatic chaos in the world,
35:04and for this I congratulate the Prime Minister and the Deputy Prime Minister.
35:09And on winning the war,
35:11I congratulate my entire army,
35:13and especially Field Marshal.
35:15But after all this,
35:18if they are now struggling to put an end to the chaos,
35:23then what is there to complain about?
35:25But this matter will remain only till the statements.
35:28Now they will not do any such mischief again,
35:30in your opinion?
35:32Yes, look, it is possible that they will do it.
35:35And if they do it, then what will happen in your opinion?
35:38Now this is not a theoretical thing.
35:40Now, yes, no one says that it is just a wordplay.
35:42We have told you that we do not want to do it,
35:44but if you do it, then this will happen.
35:46Then it will happen as it is.
35:47Yes, look, two ships were dropped,
35:49I have forgotten the name of the pilot,
35:51Abhinandan,
35:52what was his name,
35:54they gave him tea,
35:56dropped him to the border,
35:58now this time five ships were dropped,
36:00then another ship was dropped,
36:02then their drones were dropped,
36:04all their myths were busted.
36:06So what will happen next time?
36:08I was watching them myself,
36:10a gentleman was saying that this is just a trailer.
36:12So, brother, in a trailer,
36:14the film that is about to come, that is what works, right?
36:16Yes, right.
36:17Through this trailer, you got to know
36:19what will happen in the upcoming film.
36:21So if it happens again,
36:23I want to talk about something serious.
36:25Look, we started this with a dialogue.
36:27Right.
36:28They accused us
36:30that you are behind Pahalgam.
36:32We said, okay, brother,
36:34you bring the evidence,
36:36we will cooperate with you.
36:37They said, no, no,
36:38we will not tell you the evidence.
36:40We said, okay, do this,
36:42that you provide evidence to any institution of the United Nations.
36:45They said, no, no,
36:47we do not even believe in the United Nations.
36:49So we said, okay, do this,
36:51tell us a few countries of your choice,
36:53on which you can trust,
36:55we can also trust a little.
36:57We will give them all the evidence.
36:59They said, no, we will not give evidence to anyone.
37:01So we said, okay,
37:03if you do not give evidence to anyone,
37:05then the places you are talking about,
37:07we will take all our international journalists
37:09and our local journalists there,
37:11we will show them.
37:13In a day, the camp does not end.
37:15In a few hours.
37:17And we gave them the entire schedule.
37:19We said, we will talk.
37:21You said, we will fight.
37:23You forced the war.
37:25You lost the war.
37:27After doing so much destruction,
37:29then finally said that now we will talk.
37:31So brother, let's listen to us first.
37:33Let's talk first.
37:35Sir, you have summed it up very well, very nicely.
37:37But I have one last question on this.
37:39Now what to do about this,
37:41that the Sintas agreement,
37:43that as we speak,
37:45which we are saying,
37:47we will consider it as a declaration of war.
37:49They are already violating it,
37:51as we speak.
37:53Now what to do about this?
37:55Look, the thing is that,
37:57first of all,
37:59you know this,
38:01I get to know this
38:03by watching your programs.
38:05First of all,
38:07you know that
38:09the Sintas agreement
38:11has no scope to be
38:13suspended unilaterally.
38:15There is no possibility.
38:17Now, what comment can I make
38:19on the fact that there is no possibility?
38:21We can't even recognize it
38:23because there is no provision in that treaty
38:25to recognize it.
38:27Now, for a moment,
38:29assume that they suspended it.
38:31Although I will tell you later that
38:33they had suspended it for two years.
38:35When nothing could be done legally,
38:37they suspended it.
38:39That is amazing.
38:41If you had to suspend the treaty
38:43then what would have happened?
38:45First, when you violated
38:47all its stipulations
38:49and we kept
38:51engaging you,
38:53you also kept engaging us,
38:55but when you realized
38:57that the legal provisions
38:59to renegotiate the treaty
39:01are very less,
39:03then you said,
39:05the treaty is over.
39:07But I want to say something else.
39:09Look, the thing is that
39:11first of all, the world will have to
39:13understand what a treaty is.
39:15And if there is no importance
39:17of this treaty,
39:19then there is no importance
39:21of any other treaty
39:23after the Second World War.
39:25That is, any person,
39:27whether it is a ceasefire,
39:29peace treaty,
39:31water treaty,
39:33environment treaty,
39:35it means that the status
39:37of any treaty is not more than
39:39the status of any treaty.
39:41Which proves that we have a very strong case.
39:43Now we have to do this.
39:45What you are saying is a very strong thing.
39:47And if a precedent is set
39:49that the water of the Low Riverine
39:51country is stopped,
39:53then it will not be unlawful for China
39:55to do the same with India.
39:57So we have a strong case,
39:59but now we have to market
40:01this case well,
40:03which we may not have been able
40:05to do very well in the past
40:07when the Prime Minister
40:09and Deputy Prime Minister
40:11marketed Pakistan well.
40:13And the fact is that
40:15they are sending us anyway.
40:17Actually, if you want to market,
40:19then you should have sent us.
40:21This is a little unfair.
40:23At least you should have gone
40:25with us. Who can do better
40:27marketing than you?
40:29I am with everyone in this matter
40:31without any distinction.
40:33No, no, I know this.
40:35Is water the origin?
40:37Because if it is the origin,
40:39then as you said,
40:41then China can also stop
40:43your third water coming to India.
40:45And you have no agreement
40:47with them either.
40:49This means that you are creating
40:51a ground for this thing
40:53that your water should be stopped.
40:55The second thing is
40:57that is water a river
40:59and the environment
41:01that lives around it?
41:03It is not possible that the winds
41:05that come from India to Pakistan
41:07will stop.
41:09It is not possible that
41:11the water that flows will stop flowing.
41:13So do you
41:15consider that water
41:17only as a river and the environment
41:19and climate around it
41:21that you are now destroying?
41:23Or the thing that you are
41:25calling water,
41:27we call it Indus Valley Civilization.
41:29Whenever you mention
41:31Indus River,
41:33you mention Indus Valley
41:35Civilization.
41:37So are you now attacking
41:39civilization?
41:41So think about
41:43what India is doing.
41:45Does it want to destroy
41:47the environment?
41:49Does it consider water
41:51only as the origin?
41:53Does it consider water as civilization
41:55and want to attack civilization?
41:57Does it want to attack culture?
41:59Does it want to attack culture?
42:01Does it want to attack the future?
42:0350% of Pakistan's population
42:05do agriculture.
42:07Does it want to attack them?
42:09Does it want to make them unemployed?
42:1125% of Pakistan's GDP
42:13is related to agriculture.
42:17Does it want to destroy
42:19Pakistan's economy?
42:21All of Pakistan's food security
42:23is related to agriculture.
42:25Does it want to bring
42:27prosperity to Pakistan?
42:29Does it want to bring
42:31prosperity to Pakistan?
42:33Towards the end,
42:35one last question
42:37about Pakistan's
42:39internal politics.
42:41Does it want to bring
42:43peace to Pakistan?
42:45Does it want to bring
42:47peace to Pakistan?
42:49Does it want to bring
42:51peace to Pakistan?
42:53A quick final question.
43:23Fundamentally,
43:25if you look at it,
43:27if you look at it,
43:29if there is no Khan,
43:31there is no Pakistan.
43:33They say that if Khan cannot
43:35come out of the court,
43:37then they will burn
43:39the whole of Pakistan.
43:41Respected Aleema Khan,
43:43she is very respectable for us,
43:45but what she is saying
43:47and the way she is
43:49saying it,
43:51what does it mean?
43:53We have just won the war.
43:55The way she is talking
43:57about giving the position
43:59of Field Marshal,
44:01I will only request that
44:03when Manik Shah was made
44:05Field Marshal in 1971,
44:07no one objected.
44:09And when we won the war,
44:11everyone objected
44:13that why did we make him
44:15Field Marshal?
44:17You are great people.
44:19And if India won the war
44:21or thought that it won
44:23and made him Field Marshal,
44:25then there is no objection
44:27in Pakistan or India.
44:29And if we won the war,
44:31then who are these people
44:33who are objecting?
44:35And they are great people.
44:37They are talking weird.
44:39I tell them to stay for
44:41at least two days.
44:43At least take a breath.
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