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  • 5/25/2025
Pope Leo XIV made plenty of enemies helping dismantle a powerful Catholic movement whose leaders physically, sexually, spiritually and psychologically abused members. As Leo's past record of handling clergy sexual abuse cases comes under scrutiny, victims of the now-disgraced group are stepping up to defend his record. (Video courtesy of Associated Press)

READ: https://mb.com.ph/2025/05/24/as-pope-leo-xiv-faces-scrutiny-victims-of-abusive-catholic-group-say-he-helped-when-others-didnt

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00:00After that, I started to understand the strength of who I was dealing with,
00:07I was looking for other authorities.
00:10So that's how I arrived in 2021.
00:14And to start, what can I say about him?
00:18He is listening to me.
00:19It seems evident in a cura, in a sacerdote, but it's not so.
00:24It's because the Sodalicio had a lot of power.
00:28After that, I started to understand the force of whom I was dealing with.
00:34However, it was very clear in saying that for me the Sodalicio has no charisma.
00:39That's the reason why Francisco ended up deciding to dissolve the Sodalicio.
00:46The Sodalicio had a lot of power.
00:50And in that meeting, he invoked the Confederation Episcopal for the people.
00:54So, the fact that Provoz acted differently, it made me understand that he didn't have a rabo of paja.
01:00That at least he didn't have any conscience of having acted wrong in any case.
01:07So, he had the freedom to have clear and clear to say that the Sodalicio had no charisma
01:15and not afraid of any kind of consequences.
01:19Although, in that he was very alone in the National Episcopal.
01:23The abuse is not only physical abuse.
01:27Un abuse of the Church is not only sexual abuse.
01:30Before there is an abuse of sexual abuse,
01:33there must be an abuse of consciousness.
01:36So, for example, I am not a victim of abuse of sexual abuse.
01:39But I am a victim of consciousness.
01:41And the abuse of consciousness are very serious.
01:45They can mark the rest of the life of a person.
01:51So, he understood that the abuse of the Sodalicio
01:57were not only sexual abuse.
02:01In particular, in Peru, it is very complex.
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