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"Espero que el público británico vea lo práctico que es", dice Maros Šefčovič
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23/5/2025
"Espero que el público británico vea lo práctico que es", dice Maros Šefčovič
En una entrevista con 'Euronews', Maros Šefčovič afirma que se ha dado un paso muy importante hacia un nuevo capítulo en las relaciones bilaterales.
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00:00
Welcome to the Europe Conversation.
00:09
My guest this week is EU Trade Commissioner Maros Sefcovic.
00:13
He's in the middle of a 90-day window of negotiations with the United States over trade tariffs.
00:19
He says he's hoping for a fair and balanced outcome,
00:22
but he says EU standards on food are not up for negotiation.
00:26
Commissioner Sefcovic, EU Commissioner for Trade,
00:30
thank you very much for joining us on the Europe Conversation.
00:33
Thank you very much for the invitation.
00:34
So we've been talking about Brexit for years,
00:37
and there's always been a lot of rancour around the EU and the UK moving apart.
00:42
But earlier this week, we saw a tiny movement towards each other.
00:46
I mean, was that sort of a victory for you after all your years of turmoil?
00:51
I think we really made a very important step forward,
00:55
and we are opening really the new chapter in the EU-UK relations,
00:59
and we clearly covered lots of ground also in the new areas
01:02
where we were to cooperate much more and much more closely.
01:04
But obviously you wouldn't have been surprised at some of the messaging
01:07
in some of the UK press saying that Keir Starmer was stitched up like a kipper
01:11
and this was a surrender summit.
01:13
Did you get guarantees that a further government in five years' time or so in the UK,
01:18
a Tory government, couldn't break the deal made from the UK and the EU?
01:23
I think that they would do what is the best for the people.
01:28
And I believe that the agreements we have reached today are the best for the UK citizens,
01:35
the best for the EU, because we are eternal neighbours,
01:38
we are the biggest trading partners, and we are closest to the lies.
01:43
So if we want to restore the bridge building among the young people between the EU and the UK,
01:50
if we want to make it easier for the farmers, for the fishers through the SPS agreement,
01:55
and if we want to make it even better for the people from Northern Ireland,
01:59
I think these are all very important messages,
02:02
and I hope that also the people in the UK would see it like that,
02:06
and the practical results and practical implementation of the agreements will just prove that.
02:09
Getting back to, let's say, the EU and the US negotiations,
02:12
nobody will forget where they were on April 2nd in the Rose Garden
02:15
when the Trump administration applied huge tariffs to countries all across the world,
02:20
including an island of penguins, as well as 20% tariffs on the European Union.
02:24
But there is a 90-day pause on that for negotiations.
02:28
That's coming up soon, in about a month and a half.
02:30
Tell us where the negotiations are.
02:32
I spent quite some time with my both interlocutors,
02:36
with Secretary of Commerce, Mr. Lutnik, or U.S. Trade Representative, Ambassador Greer,
02:42
and I have to say that we are almost in permanent touch.
02:45
We are talking over the phone.
02:48
We are communicating via all possible channels,
02:52
and we are preparing for another round.
02:55
I mean, we are ready to have technical discussions now on, I would say,
02:59
the scoping process which we just completed.
03:02
Is that new, though, Commissioner?
03:04
Is that a decision in recent days that you've actually moved to a new raised position
03:08
now that you're actually talking much more specific?
03:11
Yeah, I think we are now on much more specific discussions.
03:14
Of course, what is very important for us is that the deal,
03:18
which I believe we will reach in the end, is fair and it's balanced,
03:23
because I think this was a very, very clear message which I got
03:26
when we've been debating this issue on the level of the trade ministers of the European Union.
03:32
We, as the biggest trading partner of the United States,
03:37
clearly deserve the equal treatment, fair treatment,
03:39
and this is what we are aiming in the deal with the U.S.
03:42
So what we proposed was several areas where we believe that we can achieve much more
03:46
if we work jointly, you know, be it energy security,
03:50
be it dependencies in the critical minerals,
03:53
or be it the whole area of the digital cooperation.
03:57
Because, as we know, the United States said 0% tariffs is a nice start,
04:00
but we want greater access to your markets when it comes to agriculture.
04:03
Is that a red line for the Commission,
04:05
that it won't reduce scientific-based standards when it comes to agriculture production?
04:10
I think we've been quite clear that we clearly would preserve our regulatory autonomy.
04:17
And if I follow a little bit the discussion in the United States of America,
04:22
I mean, there is also a lot of talk about, you know, having healthier food,
04:28
what should be, you know, the composition of the food processing, and so on and so forth.
04:33
And I think we already had this discussion in Europe,
04:36
and we are very proud of our health and safety standards.
04:39
If it comes to food, if it comes to agri-food production,
04:43
we are going clearly to stick to them.
04:45
So that's not going to happen, because that's something that they are being pushed for.
04:48
They keep saying they don't take our meat, they don't take our agriculture products.
04:51
Are you going to be able to change that in any way?
04:53
It's not a 100% correct statement, because we take their products
04:58
if they respect the health standards of the European Union.
05:03
And as far as I'm following the discussions, in the U.S.,
05:06
they are also kind of pointing into that direction to have healthier food,
05:11
less chemicals, you know, more focus on the organic production,
05:15
and all these things which already, I mean, we discussed and agreed upon in the EU.
05:20
So everything depends on the standards.
05:22
We respect American standards.
05:24
We, of course, ask the Americans to respect the European standards.
05:26
So that's not up for negotiation standards?
05:28
I think if it comes to health and safety issues,
05:32
I mean, clearly these are not up for negotiations.
05:34
The other issue that they have is the VAT is a form of collecting tax.
05:37
They say it's a non-tariff cheating, and they don't really get that.
05:41
Obviously, they pick up taxes in other ways, but VAT is a problem.
05:45
Is that something? Is that a red line also for the EU?
05:47
I think that it's not realistic to expect that now the 27 member states
05:53
would change their budgetary procedures,
05:55
because for us the VAT is a very important source of revenue for the government.
06:01
And we, of course, spent quite a lot of time in explaining
06:04
that the VAT is non-discriminatory,
06:07
that it's levied on everyone, on European producers,
06:10
on American producers, on Asian, on African producers.
06:14
And on top of it, I think it's like more than 150 countries around the globe
06:18
is using the VAT tax.
06:22
Do they agree with that, though, because you haven't yet met
06:24
the senior trade secretary, Peter Navarro?
06:27
So, Peter Navarro, I understand, is playing a very important role
06:31
as advisor to President Trump.
06:34
My two interlocutors are Secretary of Commerce,
06:38
Mr. Havard Latnik, who has, I would say, huge authority
06:41
over the issue of trade.
06:42
And then, of course, the US Trade Representative, Ambassador Greer.
06:46
So, these are my two principal interlocutors.
06:48
We are always happy to talk also to Mr. Navarro
06:52
if there will be availability.
06:54
And you talked about the tech industry
06:56
and how you could engage with the tech industry in the United States.
07:00
That's something we've heard for quite some time.
07:02
They would like to weaken the regulatory standards
07:04
of the Digital Service Act and the Digital Markets Act.
07:08
I mean, is that something that the EU may have to look at doing?
07:11
Because the tech industry does really have
07:13
a lot of influence in the White House.
07:15
If we agree on the, let's say, basic principle
07:18
that what is illegal offline should be illegal online,
07:24
so then I think we have a common understanding
07:27
that we should be able also to enforce this principle in practice.
07:30
And this is what our digital legislation is about.
07:33
I was also explaining to our American interlocutors
07:36
that if it comes to, let's say, the dominant position of the market,
07:41
it's very often the medium-sized and small American companies
07:45
based in the EU who are pointing out to some of the,
07:48
let's say, anomalies on the markets.
07:50
And this is what we are discussing with the big tech.
07:53
But as I said, we are always ready to debate
07:57
all these issues in a friendly manner with the U.S.
07:59
As you know, we go through quite an important process
08:03
of simplification on parts of our legislation.
08:06
But I think that for the big tech of the U.S.,
08:11
we are a very important market.
08:12
For some of them, we have more subscribers here in Europe than in the U.S.
08:16
I understand that it's somewhere between 30 to 50 percent
08:18
of the revenue they are generating in Europe.
08:25
So it's only logical.
08:27
Okay.
08:27
So the other issue is making up the €15 billion deficit
08:31
in trade of goods that the U.S. and the EU have.
08:35
The idea being to buy more from America.
08:38
What areas would you look at?
08:39
How would you get consumers to buy more?
08:41
And how would it look like the EU could buy more from the United States
08:44
to, I suppose, fill that gap?
08:47
I think that first and foremost, there's clearly the huge potential.
08:51
And I would say on the both sides.
08:53
Because, I mean, we have also lots of products
08:56
which are totally indispensable for the United States of America.
09:01
And we also recognize the fact that if you take into account
09:05
trade in goods and services,
09:08
so the overall deficit is a little bit more than €50 billion.
09:11
We have a difference of opinion on that figure.
09:14
But I think if you take into account
09:16
the internationally recognized category of trade in goods and services,
09:20
so it's €50 billion,
09:21
which I think comparing to €1.6 trillion of euros
09:24
is really a small sum of money.
09:26
And we should be able to solve that.
09:28
So, coming to the concrete categories,
09:30
if it comes to energy security,
09:32
I was responsible for the common purchase of gas
09:36
where the US LNG was playing a crucial role.
09:38
I know that our farmers are in need of soybean support.
09:43
I know that we want to build a robust AI infrastructure in Europe.
09:52
And you simply need these high-quality AI chips,
09:54
which also, and it runs into the billions and billions.
09:58
And the UK just finished its trade negotiation with the US,
10:01
but has accepted a 10% tariff baseline.
10:04
Is that something that you think the EU might have to concede
10:07
in order to get past this?
10:08
Because as we know, we're coming up to the end of the 90 days
10:11
and there hasn't been sort of an end to the negotiations yet.
10:15
What was a very clear message I got from our trade ministers was that they insist on having a balanced deal with the US.
10:24
So, of course, we are ready to negotiate with our American partners.
10:29
We would look for the balanced deal.
10:32
Our UK partners, they concluded the negotiations.
10:39
Of course, there is a lot what is in the paper.
10:42
There is a lot which still have to be worked out
10:44
because it was, I think, a very important framework agreement
10:49
with a lot of things to be done in the future.
10:52
But you couldn't accept 10% tariffs, though, could you?
10:55
I mean, what we want is a symmetrical, fair deal, and this is what we'll be pushing for.
11:00
Because the countermeasures, of course, that the EU has ready to go if the negotiations fail,
11:06
I mean, there's things like whiskey and bourbon are on them,
11:08
a lot of countries in negotiation to make sure that wasn't on the list.
11:11
Are you concerned about the implications of moving forward after 90 days
11:15
without an end to the negotiations?
11:17
If you look at the measures, which some of them are already imposed by the US,
11:22
we are already paying 10% tariff, we are already paying 25% tariff for steel,
11:27
we are already paying 25% for cars.
11:30
And we really believe that this is simply not fair.
11:33
So we want to resolve it through the negotiated solutions.
11:38
But, of course, we are also preparing alternatively
11:42
that we would have to protect the European jobs and European companies.
11:45
And, therefore, we started the consultations on eventual rebalancing measures.
11:50
Okay, Commissioner Shefsevich, thank you very much for joining us on the Europe Conversation.
11:54
Thank you very much for inviting me.
11:55
Thank you very much for joining us on the Europe Conversation.
11:59
Thank you.
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