Conservative commentator Michael Knowles says President Donald Trump looking into celebrities that didn't support him isn't a big deal ... 'cause he claims Democrats have done investigations just like it after past elections.
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00:00Michael, let's just, let's get real for just a second.
00:05The thing that all three of them have in common is they were his political enemies.
00:09That they didn't want him elected.
00:10They all supported Kamala Harris.
00:12They all showed up for Kamala Harris.
00:15He hated Taylor Swift for that very reason.
00:19But he's using the Justice Department to investigate, not coincidentally, the people who were against
00:29him.
00:30And isn't that retribution?
00:31Isn't that what he's been calling lawfare?
00:34This is lawfare.
00:35Doesn't retribution belong outside of our justice system?
00:40I don't think it's exactly that.
00:42I mean, this kind of investigative work goes back a long way.
00:46Back during the Obama era, I was part of a group that was associated with the Tea Party.
00:50Barack Obama sicked his IRS under Lois Lerner to go heavy after all of the potential Tea
00:55Party groups.
00:56And that's wrong.
00:57Totally uncontroverted.
00:58That's wrong.
00:59Sure.
01:00You know, Barack Obama, sorry, Joe Biden was investigating Catholic churches.
01:04That's another group that I'm a part of.
01:05And it was suing nuns and going after Catholics pretty hard.
01:08So in this case, you say, OK, well, he's also Catholic.
01:10Exactly.
01:11That's that doesn't.
01:12He's Catholic.
01:13Say it again.
01:14But Biden is Catholic also.
01:15So.
01:16Yeah, he says he's Catholic.
01:17I don't know.
01:18He sure has a strange way of showing it.
01:19But but but but so you could say, OK, is Trump just doing the same thing that his predecessors
01:24did?
01:25I think so.
01:26You know, the lawfare that we see we saw under Joe Biden, where the former president top political
01:31rival at the time was prosecuted on four different fronts, had his house ransacked.
01:35That that is a totally other level here.
01:37What Trump is suggesting is there might have been a campaign finance violation, which,
01:41by the way, Democrats and Republicans are investigating all the time.
01:44I know.
01:45But you know what?
01:46Then go after the candidate.
01:47You're going.
01:48First of all, Oprah's already made it clear because she had that very public town hall with
01:52with Kamala Harris and made it clear I didn't take any money.
01:56But she did.
01:57Her company took money.
01:58She obviously doesn't personally need money because she's one of the richest people on
02:00the planet.
02:01But her her company.
02:02This also New York Times.
02:03By the way, you are totally.
02:04You are totally.
02:05If not millions of dollars.
02:06You are totally allowed to fund the event.
02:09The production.
02:10It's not that she made the production.
02:11I mean, my God, Michael.
02:12I don't know.
02:13Guys, how many.
02:14Michael, he is on the White House in the White House driveway selling Teslas to his biggest campaign
02:21dope?
02:22No, he's buying Teslas.
02:23He was buying Teslas.
02:24So, look, there will be an investigation.
02:26You're smiling.
02:27And we'll see.
02:28Michael, come on.
02:29Does it cost hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars to put on a podcast?
02:31I don't know.
02:32Maybe we're just more efficient than the Kamala Harris campaign was.
02:34They'll investigate it like they investigate every presidential campaign.
02:37But when you start using the government, using the Department of Justice to run these
02:43investigations, which are clearly just to go after your opponents, I just don't get why
02:48you can't see that that is exactly what he was yelling at about the Democrats doing.
02:53If there was no impropriety, the investigations will turn up no problems.
02:56I get it.
02:57That was not the case with the Obama administration.
02:59Michael, investigating creates a chilling effect on America.
03:03Look, I agreed with you on Obama and the Tea Party.
03:08I agreed with you on that because I know what happened.
03:10Take it back to McCarthy.
03:11Go ahead, Hart.
03:12And I also think there were some issues certainly with Trump during the Biden administration
03:16where they were targeting him.
03:18I get it.
03:19Not with all of it, but some of it.
03:21And I agree with you.
03:22Why can't you just be open enough to say there's a line that shouldn't be crossed?
03:27Because this is so obvious.
03:29It just seems to me, look, I want to get back to a place where there is no more lawfare
03:33of the sort that we've seen Democrats in particular push for the last 15 years.
03:36The only way you're going to get back to that is not by unilaterally disarming and saying,
03:40well, okay guys, do you double pinky promise that you're not going to do it again next time?
03:44Is it to triple down?
03:45No, it's to use the law in a just way, in a small way.
03:49You're just investigating some campaign finance violations.
03:51This is not just.
03:52Who's to say what's just, Michael?
03:53He has no evidence.
03:54Do you guys really think, do you guys think it cost hundreds of thousands if not millions
03:58of dollars for Kamala Harris to put on an event with Oprah?
04:01You don't think there might have been a little bit of graft in there?
04:03There might have been a little bit of pay to play?
04:05Oh, okay.
04:06So, Michael, what about the lotteries that Elon Musk was putting on?
04:11Should we investigate those?
04:12But wait a minute.
04:13I want to answer that question, that the Justice Department should not be saying theoretically,
04:19you know, it probably cost more money, so maybe it's them.
04:23That's not the way justice works.
04:25You follow evidence.
04:26And when you don't follow evidence, and you come up with theories to go after your opponents,
04:31it corrupts the system.
04:32But there's a lot of evidence.
04:33There's a lot of evidence.
04:34That's the point of the investigation.
04:35No, there isn't.
04:36There isn't.
04:37There isn't.
04:38There is a lot of evidence that Oprah Winfrey's company took a lot more money than was necessary
04:41to put on that event.
04:42And maybe, especially at a time when you had the Biden administration going around the
04:47world, shaking down foreign leaders to enrich the Biden family, maybe there was a little
04:51graft.
04:52Now, I'm not saying there certainly was graft.
04:53And I agree with you that investigations created chilling effect.
04:56But we can't only have that chilling effect made on ordinary conservative Americans at the behest
05:01of Democrats.
05:02You've got to make sure that it's a fair playing field for everybody.
05:05All right.
05:07I'll be watching.
05:08This is a great video for you, guys.
05:10I'll have to take care of you.
05:11Yes.
05:12Thanks.
05:15Thank you, everybody.
05:17I enjoyed today.
05:18Oh, my Lord.