- 5/21/2025
The Supreme Court has granted interim bail to Ashoka University Professor Ali Khan Mahmudabad, who was arrested for social media posts on Operation Sindoor.
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00:00Good evening, hello and welcome, you're with the news today, your prime time destination
00:06news, newsmakers talking points. It's Wednesday night and we have plenty on the show tonight.
00:11Tonight we'll ask the big question, does free speech in this country need more judicial
00:16protection? This on a day when an Ashoka University professor is finally granted interim bail.
00:22Also decoding Donald Trump's peacemaker avatar, his former NSA, John Bolton, will be among
00:28my guests tonight. So we have plenty on the show for you tonight. He'll be joining me
00:33there later. But first, as always, it's time for the nine headlines at nine. The Ashoka
00:39University professor arrested for Operation Sindoor is granted bail by, for his Operation
00:46Sindoor post is granted bail by the Supreme Court. Top court though slams the professor
00:51claiming that his comments amounted to cheap publicity and dog whistling is barred from
00:56speaking to the press. High court appointed fact finding panel says police were inactive
01:06during Murshidabad violence in Bengal and local councillor is accused of inciting the
01:10violence. The enforcement directorate accuses Sonia Gandhi and Rahul Gandhi of cheating
01:18and money laundering in the National Herald case. ED claims Gandhi's pocketed 142 crores
01:23from proceeds of crime. A major blow to Naxals. Prime Minister and Home Minister hail a successful
01:36Chhattisgarh operation that eliminates 27 Naxal leaders, including one of their major
01:42chiefs. NEP Rao gets bigger. Tamil Nadu government now moves the Supreme Court against the Centre
01:52for Withholding Funds, seeks the release of more than 2,000 crores under the National
01:57Education Policy. Supreme Court dismisses a plea for an FIR against Justice Yashwant
02:06Verma in the Cash Discovery Rao, says action has to be taken by the President and Prime
02:11Minister. ED raids education institutes linked to Karnataka Home Minister Parameshwara, searches
02:20in connection with the Ramya Rao gold smuggling case. China-Pakistan agree with Kabul to expand
02:29economic corridor to Afghanistan, announcement after Pakistan Deputy Prime Minister Ishaq
02:34Dar meets Chinese counterpart Wang Yi. Trump unveils plans for a Golden Dome missile defence
02:43system that can cover 40 times the land size of Israel, planned to cost up to 100 billion
03:18crores.
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06:07Heavy rains lashing large parts of North India
06:09of Gujarat, of Pune
06:11and a hailstorm in Srinagar
06:13leading to that flight
06:15having a very narrow escape
06:17So, that's the big story
06:19at the moment
06:20The good news of course
06:21as Mir Fareed explained today
06:23is that all the passengers
06:25are safe
06:27Okay, let's move on then from there
06:29to the other story that we are tracking
06:31Top Maoist leader Basava Raju
06:33has been killed in a Chhattisgarh encounter
06:36The CPI Maoist General Secretary
06:38was killed in a shootout
06:40in Chhattisgarh
06:41Basava Raju's death was confirmed
06:43by Home Minister Amit Shah
06:45The Maoist is among the NIA's most wanted
06:47with a bounty of 1 crore rupees on him
06:51Let me get more from our correspondent
06:53in Raipur
06:54Sumi Rajapan now joins us
06:56Sumi, the centre is claiming a major victory
06:58and this comes on a day when we are told
07:00as many as 27 Naxals
07:02have been killed in this firefight
07:04with the police
07:05Can you give us more details
07:06particularly about the importance
07:08of Basava Raju
07:15It's absolutely a big day for Chhattisgarh
07:17especially for the DRG unit
07:19which is the specialised unit
07:21of Chhattisgarh force
07:22and it was a joint operation
07:24by the DRG of four districts
07:26Sukma, Narayanpur, Bijapur
07:28and also Basta
07:31This was a joint operation
07:32led by the DRG units
07:34of all these districts
07:36and they led this operation
07:37for more than 50 hours
07:38in which 27, as you pointed out
07:4027 Naxals were neutralised
07:42However, in this a major name
07:44is definitely the Nambala Keshav Rao
07:46He used to go by the moniker Basava Raju
07:48He happened to become the General Secretary
07:50of the CPIM
07:51and he was one of the top Maoist commando
07:53and he was elevated as the General Secretary
07:55in 2018
07:57and this particular man
07:59who played instrumental roles
08:01in various Naxal attacks
08:03back in the day
08:05in Chhattisgarh
08:06has been successfully neutralised
08:08In fact, it was informed
08:09by the Union Home Minister Amit Shah
08:11when he took to the social media platform
08:13X to congratulate the armed forces
08:14He also informed the media
08:15about how this guy was successfully neutralised
08:18So, certainly it's a big deal
08:19He was carrying a bounty of 1 crore
08:21and this guy has played
08:22as I said, instrumental roles
08:24in many of the attacks
08:25including the 2013 Jeeram Act
08:27and also the 2010 Dantewada incident
08:31in which more than 76 CRPF personnel
08:33lost their lives
08:35and this guy was born in Andhra Pradesh
08:37back in 1995
08:39He joined the movement
08:41back in the 1980s
08:42and since then he was elevated
08:43as the General Secretary
08:44So, it is certainly the major
08:47significant blow
08:48in the insurgency movement
08:49and as we are moving forward
08:51to slowly inching towards March 2026
08:54certainly BJP's government
08:57under the leadership of Vishnu Dev Sai
08:58here in Chhattisgarh
08:59is inching close
09:00to the Naxal Bharat Abhiyan
09:04Okay, Sumi Rajapan joining us
09:06with those details
09:07that major Naxal encounter
09:11that took place earlier today
09:12in Chhattisgarh
09:14Let's turn from there
09:15to the other big story
09:16and our talking point tonight
09:18The Supreme Court today
09:19granted bail
09:20to Ashoka University
09:21Professor Ali Khan Mehbudabad
09:24The professor had been arrested
09:26based on a complaint
09:27by the Haryana Women's Commission
09:28Chief Renu Bhatia
09:30and a BJP Yuva Morcha Sarpanch
09:33The women's panel
09:34had claimed that
09:35Ali Khan's social media posts
09:36on Operation Sindoor
09:38insulted Colonel Sophia Qureshi
09:40who had held
09:41government press briefings
09:42A number of professors
09:43had come out in solidarity
09:45with Ali Khan
09:46saying he was being
09:47unnecessarily targeted
09:48only for expressing his opinion
09:51Today's Supreme Court bail order
09:52contains many riders
09:54raising questions
09:55over the right to free speech
09:57A report from Anisha Mathur
10:03Two social media posts
10:04landed Ashoka University
10:06Professor Ali Khan Mehbudabad
10:08in jail
10:10facing charges of sedition
10:12outraging modesty of women
10:14by allegedly attacking
10:15the two officers
10:16the faces of Operation Sindoor
10:20What resulted
10:21was a nationwide debate
10:23What was it
10:24that professors said?
10:25Was it an assault
10:26on academic expression?
10:28Was it an assault
10:29on freedom of speech?
10:33On Wednesday
10:34the top court
10:35the bench of justices
10:36Surya Kanth
10:37and N. Koteshwar Singh
10:39granted interim bail
10:40but also schooled
10:41Professor Khan
10:45Why make political comment
10:47during national crisis?
10:49You claim freedom of expression
10:51What about duty to nation?
10:53Why veer into politics?
10:56Why gain cheap popularity
10:58on this occasion?
10:59This is what is called
11:01dog whistling
11:02You have a right
11:03to express
11:04without hurting others
11:05Use terms
11:06which is simple
11:07respectful
11:08and not hurtful
11:09to others
11:10Why make a social media statement
11:12at all?
11:14The Supreme Court
11:15in its order
11:16did grant interim bail
11:18but also said
11:21Supreme Court gagged
11:22Professor Khan
11:23to not post
11:24or write on the issue
11:26No comment to be made
11:27by Professor
11:28on the terror attack
11:29recently faced
11:30by the country
11:32Haryana
11:33to set up
11:34three-member SIT
11:35Police to clarify
11:36what statement
11:37insulted women
11:40The court also questioned
11:41the Haryana government
11:44Where is the statement
11:45in the post
11:46which insulted
11:47women officers?
11:49The government lawyer
11:50did not have any answers
11:51and asked for time
11:53The same bench
11:54on Monday
11:55passed a order
11:56in the case
11:57of MP Minister Vijay Shah
11:58who communally
11:59charged public speech
12:00was criticised heavily
12:03The same bench
12:04had directed
12:05the Madhya Pradesh Police
12:06to set up an SIT
12:07to investigate the case
12:08against the
12:09Tribal Affairs Minister
12:10of Madhya Pradesh
12:12but did not pass
12:13any gag order
12:14like with
12:15Professor Khan
12:18Professor Mehmoodabad
12:19will likely
12:20to be released
12:21from jail
12:22date Thursday
12:23and the court
12:25against the FIR
12:26now on Friday
12:27In the meantime
12:28the Haryana Police
12:29have questioned
12:30foreign travel
12:31by the Oxford
12:32educated professor
12:33and asked for
12:34his bank details
12:35and passport
12:37While the top court's
12:38order giving
12:39interim relief
12:40to Professor Khan
12:41but also cracking
12:42down on him
12:43for his posts
12:44leaves a larger
12:45question to be addressed
12:47What impact
12:48will the court's
12:49order have
12:50on freedom of
12:51expression in India?
12:55Interim bail granted
12:56but with a gag order
12:57and now an SIT
12:58investigation
12:59This case
13:00has thrown up
13:01serious questions
13:02of freedom of
13:03expression
13:04and how
13:05courts are
13:06interpreting
13:07comments made
13:08during a national crisis
13:09In New Delhi
13:10this is Anisha Mathur
13:11for India Today
13:24Will judges be
13:25doing much more
13:26to protect
13:27free speech?
13:28Is anti-government
13:29opinion now
13:30equated with
13:31anti-national views?
13:32Let's get straight
13:33to our Talking Point
13:34Joining me now
13:35on our Talking Point
13:36three special guests
13:37joined by
13:38Dushyant Dave
13:39Senior Supreme
13:40Court Advocate
13:41by Professor
13:42Surajit Majumdar
13:43President of
13:44the Jawaharlal Nehru
13:45University Teachers
13:46Association
13:47and by Rashmi Saman
13:48She is an author
13:49activist based in
13:50Udupi
13:51I appreciate
13:52all three of you
13:53Let me get
13:54straight to you
13:55first
13:56How do you see
13:57the SC observations
13:58in this Ali Khan
13:59case?
14:00Because while
14:01granting him
14:02interim bail
14:03they put
14:04severe restrictions
14:05on his right
14:06to free speech
14:07virtually a gag
14:08order
14:09and also
14:10passed several
14:11observations
14:12virtually suggesting
14:13why make a
14:14political comment
14:15during national
14:16crisis
14:17you claim freedom
14:18of expression
14:19what about
14:20duty to nation
14:21use terminology
14:22no statement at
14:23all
14:24why gain cheap
14:25popularity on this
14:26occasion
14:27this is what is
14:28called dog whistling
14:29when I look at
14:30these observations
14:31it seems Justice
14:32Suryakant and
14:33Koteshwar Singh
14:34want a restricted
14:35right to free speech
14:36your comment
14:37I agree with you
14:38completely
14:39I don't think
14:40judges have done
14:41service to the
14:42institution of
14:43Supreme Court
14:44by first
14:45you know
14:46passing an order
14:47yesterday
14:48not to arrest
14:49the minister
14:50from Madhya Pradesh
14:51to arrest
14:52the minister
14:53in respect
14:54of the
14:55professor Ali
14:56I think
14:57the I think
14:58these two
14:59orders are
15:00surprising
15:01unfortunate
15:02and to
15:03personally to
15:04me extremely
15:05sad because
15:06I respect
15:07and admire
15:08both Justice
15:09Suryakant and
15:10Justice
15:11Koteshwar Singh
15:12and therefore
15:13coming from
15:14them these
15:15kind of
15:16diverse
15:17orders
15:18completely
15:19unacceptable
15:20I cannot
15:21find any
15:22reason
15:23fathom any
15:24reason why
15:25judges have
15:26done what
15:27they have
15:28done including
15:29making these
15:30observations
15:31see
15:32in the case of
15:33the minister
15:34Madhya Pradesh
15:35minister Mr.
15:36Shah the
15:37judges said
15:38it's a national
15:39shame and
15:40ordered an
15:41SIT in the
15:42case of
15:43Ali Khan
15:44they're also
15:45ordering an
15:46SIT and
15:47saying you
15:48have a
15:49right to
15:50arrest an
15:51individual in
15:52the other and
15:53apology is
15:54enough but
15:55both the
15:56cases the
15:57judges seem
15:58to believe
15:59that there is
16:00no unrestricted
16:01right to free
16:02expression and
16:03comparing Ali
16:04Khan to Mr.
16:05Shah in the
16:06first instance
16:07seems a bit
16:08bizarre to me
16:09one was
16:10commonly loaded
16:11and one is
16:12someone who
16:13is expressing
16:14his opinion
16:15without making
16:16any sexist
16:17remarks
16:18which is
16:19a basic
16:20human rights
16:21that citizens
16:22have but
16:2319.1 is
16:24very beautifully
16:25worded 19
16:26begins by
16:27saying all
16:28citizens shall
16:29have right
16:30then sub
16:31clause A
16:32says to
16:33freedom of
16:34speech and
16:35expression
16:36so the
16:37right is to
16:38freedom of
16:39speech and
16:40expression
16:41underlying the
16:42words freedom
16:43now that
16:44freedom
16:45according to
16:46me means
16:47freedom of
16:48speech and
16:49expression
16:50so there is
16:51no unrestricted
16:52right to free
16:53expression and
16:54comparing Ali
16:55Khan to Mr.
16:56Shah in the
16:57first instance
16:58seems a bit
16:59bizarre to me
17:00one was
17:01commonly loaded
17:02and one is
17:03someone who
17:04is expressing
17:05his opinion
17:06without making
17:07any sexist
17:08remarks which
17:09is a basic
17:10human rights
17:11that citizens
17:12have but
17:1319.1 is
17:14very beautifully
17:15worded 19
17:16I think
17:17Professor Ali
17:18thought it
17:19fit while
17:20complimenting
17:21two of our
17:22most brilliant
17:23officers who
17:24were involved
17:25in press
17:26briefings on
17:27behalf of the
17:28nation
17:29statement by
17:30Prime Minister
17:31to introduce
17:32Colonel Qureshi
17:33and Wing
17:34Commander Singh
17:35was an
17:36outstanding
17:37statement
17:38it gave a
17:39great message
17:40to the world
17:41about
17:42professionalism
17:43of the army
17:44about the
17:45role of
17:46the
17:47PM
17:48MP
17:49and that
17:50message was
17:51echoed very
17:52positively by
17:53Professor Ali
17:54but he
17:55expressed his
17:56anguish that
17:57the situation
17:58in the country
17:59prevailing today
18:00requires equality
18:01because you
18:02can't just
18:03have semantics
18:04and optics
18:05but you must
18:06really on the
18:07ground have
18:08protection for
18:09the Muslims
18:10he talked about
18:11equality
18:12you cannot
18:13draw an
18:14equation
18:15between
18:16the
18:17BJP
18:18leader
18:19and
18:20Professor Ali
18:21but
18:22Rashmi Saman
18:23why do you
18:24believe
18:25that it is
18:26right to
18:27send out a
18:28message to
18:29the
18:30Professor
18:31why do
18:32you and
18:33others from
18:34the right
18:35wing
18:36believe in
18:37a way
18:38that
18:39Professor
18:40Khan
18:41had
18:42crossed
18:43the
18:44line
18:45and
18:46that
18:47is
18:48why
18:49we
18:50should
18:51ask
18:52questions
18:53like
18:54can those
18:55who
18:56benefit
18:57from
18:58judicial
18:59leniency
19:00that
19:01compromised
19:02national
19:03security
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19:06critique
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19:08operations
19:09designed to
19:10protect
19:11those
19:12who
19:13benefit
19:14from
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47:43national security strategy. It's what attracts his attention at any given time. And I think
47:49you can expect that very transactional approach to foreign affairs that he's just demonstrated
47:55during the Middle East trip to apply in the case of the bilateral India-U.S. relationship
48:01as well. I wish it were more on broader strategic concepts, but I think that's unlikely for
48:08the remainder of Trump's term.
48:11John Bolton there for joining me. Appreciate your joining me. You can watch that full interview
48:16on our India Today global site, the entire detailed interview with John Bolton. Okay.
48:22Just about enough time to leave you with our good news today's story. And it is a good
48:26news really, because Kannada author Manu Mushtaq and translator Deepa Basti won the International
48:33Booker Prize for fiction this year. Heartlamp is a collection of 12 short stories written
48:40over a period of more than 30 years that chronicle the everyday lives and struggles of women
48:46in Southern India, especially Muslim women and women on the margin. I leave you therefore
48:52with that. Okay. Let's take a look at our good news today's story.
48:57The winner of the International Booker Prize 2025 is Heartlamp.
49:05And with that, the short story collection of struggle of Muslim and Dalit women, Heartlamp
49:14swept the world of literature. Written in Kannada over three decades by Manu Mushtaq
49:22and translated in English by Deepa Basti is the groundbreaking winner of the International
49:27Booker Prize of 2025. If I may borrow a phrase from my own culture,
49:39this moment feels like a thousand fireflies lighting up a single sky. To even stand among
49:49these extraordinary finalists is an honor to me. I will never forget and I accept this
49:58great honor. The story of the world, if you really think
50:01about it, is a history of erasures. It is characterized by the effacement of women's
50:07triumphs and the furtive rubbing away of collective memory of how women and those on the many
50:13margins of this world live and love. This prize is a small win in a long ongoing battle
50:20against such violences. For the first time, the award has been given
50:27to a collection of short stories. Deepa Basti is the first Indian translator and ninth female
50:33translator to win the prize since it took on its current form in 2016. Manu Mushtaq
50:40is the sixth female author to be awarded the prize since then.
50:57This is a win not only for her, but for all the Kannadigas and Indians as well. This is
51:08the first Kannada book which has won the Booker Prize and the second Indian book which has
51:16won it. Manu Mushtaq's dry, gentle humor and the
51:22spoken, colloquial style narrates patriarchy and struggles of marginalized women from Muslim
51:29and Dalit community. Deepa Basti selected 12 gems from Manu's
51:34bouquet and eloquently complimented their translation without losing the essential flavor
51:40of the regional language, lighting heart lamp. Bureau Report, India Today.
51:48Just about enough time to leave you with our image of the day. Homebound is the only
51:53Indian film that features at the Cannes Film Festival this year. The film received a nine
51:58minute long standing ovation after its premiere and the post shared by Dharma Productions
52:03producer Karan Johar can be seen giving a long hug to director Veeraj Bhaiwan.
52:09Homebound is our image of the day.
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