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00:00This programme contains strong language and adult humour.
00:05APPLAUSE
00:31Good afternoon and welcome to the Countdown studio
00:35on the very day that 80 years ago, back in 1937,
00:39over in Chicago, at the Cook County Hospital,
00:43the world's first blood bank was opened.
00:45And now, of course, blood banks are all over the world
00:48and there needs to be a lot of blood available to rescue people.
00:52Rescue people. I think you're a blood donor, aren't you? Yep.
00:55And how much do they take at each donation?
00:58I think it's less than a pint. I think it's just, you know, that much.
01:03An armful. I'm ashamed to say I've never done it. Really?
01:06I did try and sell some blood once in New York City in my early 20s.
01:12I was a bit hard up. Your own blood? Yeah, yeah.
01:15LAUGHTER
01:17I went in and I thought, you know, something...
01:20I don't think I'm going to sell my blood in this place.
01:23It's a pretty ghastly place. But I feel ashamed that I haven't given it
01:26and you've given me the courage and you've led me to believe
01:29that I should do something selfless for once and I'm going to do it.
01:32You should. Now, who's with us?
01:34None other than Laurie Collingwood's back,
01:36a retired teacher from Barton on Humber.
01:39Three wins. Good win yesterday. 100 and something?
01:42106, I think. Excellent stuff. Well done.
01:45You're joined today by Bill Arnold,
01:47a retired salesman from Knighton in mid Wales,
01:50who once sold a pair of gloves to Morecambe & Wise.
01:54Not two pairs, but one pair. What happened?
01:56I was deputy manager of a gent's outfitters in Bristol
01:59and they were appearing on the Hippodrome. Yeah.
02:02And one day I looked up from the counter and they came in
02:05and I couldn't believe it.
02:07But he went, I want a pair of gloves for my lad.
02:10And they bought the gloves, genuinely bought a pair of gloves for Ernie,
02:14and did a little show of the...
02:18You can't see the join and the short, airy legs.
02:21They put on a little show in the shop.
02:23Oh, lovely. Legendary characters. Oh, superb.
02:26Treasure that memory.
02:28So let's have a big round of applause for Bill Arnold and Laurie.
02:31APPLAUSE
02:33Lovely story.
02:35Susie joined once again,
02:37and we hope he doesn't feel outnumbered in this studio.
02:40It's Hugh Dennis.
02:42Welcome back.
02:44I've got my glasses on today, Nick. You're looking good.
02:47I promise. I think the days go very fast on this programme, don't they?
02:53We talk about outnumbered.
02:55The thing is, actually, because you're a comedian and you're an actor,
02:58and you're a writer, presenter and a voiceover artist,
03:02are you playing your voice straight or are you doing impersonations?
03:07What, now? No, when you're doing voiceovers.
03:10It tends to be just sort of end lines, which are me.
03:14OK. So people are recognising your voice.
03:17I certainly recognise it.
03:19You've got a distinctive voice, I think.
03:22Now then, Laurie, let's have a letters game, shall we?
03:25Thank you. Good afternoon, Rachel. Good afternoon, Laurie.
03:28May I start with a vowel, please? You may, thank you. Start with O.
03:31And a second.
03:33U.
03:35And a third.
03:37O.
03:39O. Consonant, please.
03:41N.
03:43Another one.
03:45R.
03:47Another one.
03:49S.
03:51Another vowel, please.
03:53E.
03:55A consonant.
03:57R.
04:00And a consonant, please.
04:02And lastly, T.
04:04And here's the countdown clock.
04:13CLOCK TICKS
04:37Yes, Laurie? Seven.
04:39A seven. Bill? Seven.
04:41Now, Laurie, routers or routers?
04:44And Bill? Tourers.
04:46And tourers.
04:48Absolutely fine. Both.
04:50Any advances? Hugh and Susie?
04:52Not on the number of letters, but do we have onerous?
04:55Did somebody say onerous? No. No. That's good.
04:57It's the routers debate that interests me.
05:00Which is it?
05:02They're different things, aren't they? Yeah.
05:04You don't want to use a thing that you cut wood with
05:07for doing your Wi-Fi.
05:09That would be disastrous. Not to get confused.
05:12Susie?
05:14Sevens all the way returns another one from us.
05:17But, yes, line of sevens.
05:19Thank you. All right. Seven apiece and...
05:21Bill Arnold, it's your letters game.
05:23Hello, Rachel. Hi, Bill.
05:25A consonant, please. Thank you.
05:27Start with R.
05:29And another.
05:31H.
05:33And a third.
05:35P.
05:37And a vowel, please.
05:39O.
05:41And a vowel.
05:43A.
05:45And a consonant.
05:47N.
05:49And a vowel.
05:51I.
05:53And a consonant.
05:55P.
05:59And a consonant, please.
06:01And lastly, D.
06:03And here's the Countdown Clock.
06:07CLOCK TICKS
06:33Yes, Bill?
06:35Nothing.
06:37No? How about Laurie? Six.
06:39So, Laurie, pardon.
06:41Thank you. Happy enough?
06:43Yes. Can we beat it?
06:45I don't think we can in terms of number of letters, can we?
06:48I think you'd get orphan.
06:50An orphan. Yep. Susie, anything else?
06:52Still searching for something longer, Nick, but not there yet.
06:55So, Laurie on 13 and Bill with seven.
06:57And it's our first numbers game.
06:59Laurie. One large and five small, please, Rachel.
07:02Thank you, Laurie. One for the top row.
07:04One to start us for the day.
07:06And this selection is one, ten, nine, another one,
07:11six and the large one, 100.
07:14And the target to reach, 880.
07:17880.
07:34CLOCK TICKS
07:49Yes, Laurie? 880.
07:51And Bill? 890.
07:53890. So, let's stick with Laurie.
07:56One plus one is two.
07:58One plus one, two.
08:00Two times six is 12. Yep.
08:02Minus 12 is 88.
08:04It is indeed. Times ten.
08:06Lovely. 880. Well done.
08:08Very neat. Well done, Laurie.
08:12So, reason will leave there.
08:1423 to Bill's seven as we turn to our first tea time teaser,
08:18which is large list.
08:20And the clue.
08:21She has a large list of foods that make her unwell,
08:24so she goes to see this person.
08:26She has a large list of foods that make her unwell,
08:29so she goes to see this person.
08:32APPLAUSE
08:48Welcome back. I left with the clue.
08:50She has a large list of foods that make her unwell,
08:53so she goes to see this person.
08:55She goes to see the...
08:57..allergist. The allergist.
09:00So, Laurie on 23, Bill on seven.
09:02Plenty of time, Bill.
09:04Now, it's your letters game.
09:06Consonant, please. Thank you, Bill.
09:08T
09:10And another?
09:12N
09:14And a third?
09:16Q Thanks.
09:18I'll have a U, please.
09:20I'll try. E
09:24And another vowel?
09:27I
09:29Consonant?
09:31S
09:33And vowel?
09:35O
09:37Consonant?
09:39R
09:41And a vowel?
09:43Last shot for the U.
09:45An A.
09:47And here comes the Countdown Clock.
09:59CLOCK TICKS
10:19Yes, Bill?
10:21Six. Laurie?
10:23Eight. Eight, right. Bill?
10:25In a strain.
10:27Notarise?
10:29Very good.
10:31APPLAUSE
10:37Now, that's a Countdown word, too, isn't it?
10:39Now, what else have we got? You, Susie?
10:41We can't get to eight again, I think,
10:43but Senator, I think, is a seven.
10:45Yep.
10:47And if you want a Countdown word, Nick,
10:49or at least another one, there's Kintars.
10:51One of the few words where the Q doesn't need a U.
10:54Q-I-N-T-A-R-S.
10:56Monetary unit of Albania equal to one hundredth of a lek.
11:00That is a Kintar.
11:0231 plays seven. My word, Laurie.
11:04It's the letters game for you now.
11:08I can't say it, sorry. Vowel, please, Rachel.
11:10Thank you, Laurie.
11:12E
11:14And a second?
11:16O
11:18And a third?
11:20A
11:22Consonant?
11:24N
11:26And a second?
11:28C
11:30A third?
11:32S
11:34A fourth?
11:36B
11:38And a fifth, please?
11:40And the last one?
11:42D
11:44Stand by.
11:52O
11:54O
11:56O
11:58O
12:00O
12:02O
12:04O
12:06O
12:08O
12:10O
12:12Laurie?
12:14Seven.
12:16A seven bill?
12:18Also seven.
12:20Obscene.
12:22Anything else?
12:24Can we match that?
12:26Beacons and absence, I think that's what we've got.
12:28Anything else, Susie?
12:30Beacons, beacons and absence.
12:3438 plays 14 and now it's Bill's numbers game.
12:36Can I have one and five pence worth, please?
12:38You can indeed, thank you, Bill.
12:40One from the top and five little ones.
12:42And this time around your small numbers are
12:44eight,
12:46three,
12:48nine,
12:50one, and the big one, 100.
12:52And the target, 195.
12:54195.
13:18MUSIC
13:26Well, Bill?
13:28No, 197.
13:30Two away, how about Laurie?
13:32195.
13:34So, Laurie?
13:36Nine plus one is ten, minus eight is two.
13:38Nine plus one is ten,
13:40minus eight is two.
13:42Times 100 is 200.
13:44And eight minus three is five to take off.
13:46Another eight for the five, perfect, 195, well done.
13:48Well done.
13:50APPLAUSE
13:54Very neatly done as we turn to Hugh.
13:56And yesterday you told us about your African adventure.
14:00Any more adventures you'd like to tell us about?
14:02Well, no, but sort of following on from that,
14:04one of the things when you're travelling
14:06is that you have to be...
14:08You generally have to be quite self-sufficient
14:10if things go wrong, you know.
14:12You have to be able to sort them out.
14:14You have to be self-sufficient enough on knowing
14:16kind of how things work.
14:18Until about two years ago, I bought a car
14:20with an electronic handbrake.
14:22Has yours got one of those?
14:24It has, which I never use, but anyway...
14:26Do you not? That's dangerous on slopes.
14:28LAUGHTER
14:30Anyway, this is the point of my story, really.
14:32So I didn't really quite know how it worked, to be honest.
14:34And I was used to just pulling the handbrake up.
14:36And I took my dad, who is 85, out,
14:38very proudly, for a drive in this car.
14:40And we stopped outside the village shop
14:42in the village next door to where we lived.
14:44And I just popped into the shop.
14:46I said, I'll just be a second to get some bread.
14:48And while I was buying the bread,
14:50I was aware that the people sort of at the counter
14:52weren't really looking at me,
14:54and their heads were kind of going...
14:56LAUGHTER
14:58And that is because, beautifully framed
15:00by the window of the shop,
15:02my car was just rolling backwards.
15:04But my dad, who obviously had never encountered
15:06an electronic handbrake before either,
15:08didn't know how to turn the handbrake on.
15:10And as it rolled past the window,
15:12he was literally just banging...
15:14LAUGHTER
15:16..banging on the car windows like this.
15:18And it did this beautiful...
15:20The slope was such that it did this beautiful turn.
15:22It went round a sort of well
15:24in the middle of this square in this village
15:26and then took out two tables
15:28that were outside the local pub.
15:30It was beautiful.
15:32Smashed them to pieces, yeah.
15:34Happy days.
15:36Big round of applause for him.
15:38Maybe you should leave the car in gear in future, who knows?
15:4048 plays 14.
15:42Laurie on 48.
15:44And it is Laurie's letters game.
15:46Vowel, please, Rachel.
15:48Thank you, Laurie.
15:50I.
15:52And a second.
15:54A.
15:56And a third.
15:58O.
16:00And a consonant, please.
16:02I.
16:04And a fourth.
16:06And a consonant, please.
16:08M.
16:10And another consonant.
16:12N.
16:14And another consonant.
16:16D.
16:18And a fourth consonant, please.
16:20R.
16:24And a vowel, please.
16:26And lastly.
16:28No, not lastly. E.
16:30And a fifth vowel, please.
16:32And the last one.
16:34And here's the countdown clock.
17:04LAURIE PLAYS
17:06Laurie.
17:08Seven.
17:10A seven, Bill.
17:12Six.
17:14And that's six, Bill.
17:16Minder.
17:18Minder and Laurie?
17:20Moodier.
17:22Moodier. Hugh, Susie?
17:24Aneuroid, as in aneuroid barometer.
17:26And doorman, I think.
17:28Doorman.
17:30So, Laurie on 55, Bill on 14,
17:32Bill.
17:34Consonant, please, Rachel.
17:36Thank you, Bill. M.
17:38And another.
17:40N.
17:42And a third.
17:44L.
17:46And a fourth.
17:48T.
17:50And a vowel, please.
17:52U.
17:54And a vowel.
17:56O.
17:58And a third.
18:00And a consonant, please.
18:02W.
18:04And a consonant.
18:06And lastly, T.
18:08Stand by.
18:10MUSIC PLAYS
18:30MUSIC CONTINUES
18:40Yes, Bill?
18:42Only six.
18:44A six, Laurie? Six as well.
18:46Bill? Mutton.
18:48Thank you. And?
18:50Tumult.
18:52Tumult, that's a good word.
18:54Very good, isn't it? He is excellent.
18:56Tumult. Yes, nice.
18:58And I think we've got...
19:00It's underrated, you know, mutton.
19:02It's wonderful.
19:04Well, it is so often dressed as lamb, isn't it?
19:06LAUGHTER
19:1061, please.
19:1220, and it's Laurie's numbers game.
19:14Laurie? Thank you.
19:16One large and five small, please, Rachel.
19:18The same as usual, thank you, Laurie.
19:20One large, five little, and these little ones are seven.
19:22Four.
19:24Two.
19:26And the large one, 50.
19:28And the target, 443.
19:30443.
19:32MUSIC PLAYS
19:56MUSIC STOPS
20:02Yes, Laurie?
20:04443.
20:06And Bill? 443.
20:08Laurie?
20:10Three plus four plus two is nine.
20:12It is indeed.
20:14Times 50.
20:16450.
20:18And take away the seven.
20:20Perfect, 443.
20:22And Bill?
20:24Indeed.
20:26Well done.
20:28APPLAUSE
20:30So, Laurie on 71 and Bill on 30
20:32as we go into our second tea time teaser,
20:34which is pressed in.
20:36And the clue, she pressed in the button to get some hand soap,
20:38but nothing came out, it was empty.
20:40She pressed in the button to get some hand soap,
20:42but nothing came out, it was empty.
20:48MUSIC PLAYS
20:54APPLAUSE
21:02Welcome back. I left with the clue,
21:04she pressed in the button to get some hand soap,
21:06but nothing came out, it was empty.
21:10And the answer to that one is dispenser.
21:12She was pressing the button on the dispenser.
21:14So, with Laurie on 71 and Bill on 30,
21:17it's Bill's letters game. Bill?
21:19Consonant, please.
21:21Thank you, Bill.
21:23D
21:25And the second?
21:27T
21:29And the third?
21:31Y
21:33And the vowel, please?
21:35I
21:37And the vowel?
21:39A
21:41And the consonant?
21:43L
21:45And the vowel?
21:47U
21:49Consonant?
21:51And the vowel?
21:53And lastly, E.
21:55Stand by.
21:57MUSIC PLAYS
22:21MUSIC CONTINUES
22:27Yes, Bill?
22:29Only six.
22:31A six from Bill, Laurie?
22:33Seven.
22:35And a seven. Yes, Bill?
22:37Derail.
22:39Derail and?
22:41Trailed.
22:43And trailed. Good one.
22:45Can we match it, Susie, Hugh?
22:47I think we can beat it. I think adultery is there.
22:49Yes. All right.
22:5178 pays 30.
22:53And now, Laurie, your letters game.
22:55Thank you. Vowel, please.
22:57Thank you, Laurie. A
22:59And the second? E
23:01And the third?
23:03I
23:05And the fourth, please?
23:07A
23:09And the consonant?
23:11N
23:13And the second? V
23:15And the third?
23:17S
23:19Fourth?
23:21B
23:23And the fifth, please?
23:25And the last one?
23:27V
23:29Stand by.
23:31MUSIC PLAYS
23:47MUSIC STOPS
24:01Laurie? Five.
24:03A five, Bill? Five.
24:05Laurie's five?
24:07Veins.
24:09Veins. And, Bill?
24:11Saver. And saver.
24:13Yeah, there's no R there, unfortunately.
24:15Bad luck. What have we got?
24:17Can we beat five, Hugh?
24:19Yeah, I can get us a seven, actually, with navies.
24:21Navies? Yeah.
24:23Where does navies come from, Susie?
24:25Well, Nick, it's linked to naval, obviously, as well.
24:29Actually, it's an abbreviation of navigator.
24:32Oh, from canal building?
24:34Yeah, exactly that. Yeah.
24:36Well done. Thank you.
24:38And it's 83 to 30 as we move to Susie's wonderful origins of words.
24:43Let's all lean slightly forward and concentrate.
24:46Now then, Susie.
24:48Well, I'm continuing my whistle-stop tour of the months of the year
24:52and where they got their names from in the Roman calendar.
24:55And January and February were added to the original Roman calendar
24:59quite late in the day.
25:01Originally, the calendar consisted only of ten months,
25:04and winter was considered to be a monthless period.
25:07So the year began with March, which is where we had got to,
25:11and that was the open spring season, if you like, for the waging of war,
25:14which is why the month was dedicated to the god of war, Mars.
25:18April was the month, traditionally, of first flowers in ancient Italy,
25:23and the opening spring buds may have given the month its name.
25:27It's actually one of the few months where we're not completely sure
25:30where it goes back to.
25:32But if it is indeed to do with blossom and the arrival of spring,
25:35Aprilis would be based on the Latin word aperio, meaning to open,
25:38which means it's linked to aperture and also aperitif, rather nicely.
25:43May, Sir Thomas Mallory calls this the lusty month of May,
25:46and traditionally we view it as a very romantic time
25:49when many of us feel vernal agnia, which is a great word meaning desire,
25:54if you like, brought on by the spring,
25:56romantic feelings brought on by the arrival of spring.
25:59So strangely, then, perhaps, the Roman calendar contained
26:03the feast of the unhappy dead, so it wasn't always viewed that way.
26:07But the name of May in Latin, maius, probably came from Maia,
26:10who was the mother of the god Hermes.
26:13But in Anglo-Saxon times, because they had their own names
26:16for all of these months, of course, before the Roman ones came along,
26:19it was called three milke, because in the long spring days
26:22the cows could be milked three times a day.
26:25And there is one very popular nursery rhyme associated with May,
26:28and it does seem quite curious. I'm often asked about this one,
26:31and it's here we go gathering nuts in May.
26:33Curious because, of course, we gather nuts in the autumn,
26:36not in the springtime in May.
26:38But, in fact, the rhyme was originally here we go gathering knots of May,
26:42referring to the old custom of gathering knots of flowers
26:45in the springtime, and may was another word for the hawthorn
26:48and its blossom.
26:50Well, well, well.
26:52APPLAUSE
26:55So good.
26:5783 to 30, Laurie on 83, and it's Bill's letters game now.
27:01Bill. Vowel, please.
27:03Thank you, Bill. E.
27:05Consonant.
27:07P.
27:09And a vowel.
27:11A.
27:12And a consonant.
27:15N.
27:17And a consonant.
27:20P.
27:22And a vowel.
27:24E.
27:26And a vowel.
27:28I.
27:30A consonant, please.
27:32G.
27:34And a consonant.
27:36And, lastly, G.
27:38Stand by.
28:04MUSIC
28:08Yes, Bill?
28:10Six. A six, Laurie?
28:12Seven. And a seven, Bill?
28:14Impede. Impede nothing, Laurie?
28:16Peeping.
28:18There's no N, it's an M there, unfortunately.
28:21Sorry, Laurie. There we go.
28:23And Hugh, anything there?
28:25I think we can get a seven with pipage.
28:29Pipage?
28:31There's a lot of pipage. There are lots of pipes.
28:34It's a very common thing for plumbers to say.
28:36Well, the reason it's useful for this game
28:38is that you can put the two Es in, so that's one of the spellings.
28:41But it's the conveyance or distribution of water, gas, oil, etc.
28:44by means of pipes. It actually goes all the way back to the 1600s.
28:47So we're going back to plumbers for a long time.
28:50Excellent. Well done, Hugh.
28:52So, 83 to 36, and, Laurie, it's our final letters game for today.
28:57Thank you. Vowel, please.
28:59Thank you, Laurie.
29:01E.
29:02A second.
29:04O.
29:05And a third.
29:07I.
29:08And a fourth, please.
29:10E.
29:11OK. Now a consonant.
29:13Z.
29:15Another consonant.
29:17F.
29:18A third.
29:20W.
29:22A fourth.
29:24T.
29:26And a fifth, please.
29:28And lastly, S.
29:30And here's the Countdown Clock.
29:59MUSIC STOPS
30:02Laurie?
30:03Five.
30:04And Bill?
30:06Six.
30:07And six. Now then, Laurie.
30:09Sweet.
30:10Bill?
30:11Theorist.
30:12Yeah, absolutely fine. It's a tough one, this one.
30:15Seas is in there, is it?
30:17Seas, yep.
30:19I became obsessed by a three-letter word, which is fez.
30:22LAUGHTER
30:24You and your fez, or my fez.
30:26What else have we got, Susie?
30:28There's a bit of Australian or New Zealand slang for you.
30:31It's a bit of an insult.
30:33A westie is a person from the western suburbs of the city,
30:37typically seen as socially disadvantaged.
30:40That is a westie.
30:41All right.
30:4283-42, Laurie in the lead, and it's Bill's Numbers Game.
30:45Last one for today, Bill.
30:47Four large and two small, please.
30:49Thank you, Bill. Why not?
30:51All the top row and two little ones.
30:53The final Numbers Game of the day is one, seven,
30:56and then the big four.
30:5825, 75, 50 and 100.
31:02And the target, 266.
31:04266.
31:23MUSIC PLAYS
31:36Yes, Bill?
31:37267, I think.
31:39And Laurie?
31:41258.
31:42Mm.
31:43Bill?
31:45I think I've forgotten how I did it.
31:47LAUGHTER
31:4925 plus 50, 75...
31:5225.
31:5325 plus 50, 75.
31:56Plus 75.
31:58Plus 75, 150.
32:01Add 100.
32:02250.
32:04LAUGHTER
32:06Plus seven, plus one.
32:08No.
32:09Er...
32:10I'm blaming.
32:11Plus 258.
32:12Yeah.
32:13Oh, bad luck.
32:14I think we turn to Laurie now.
32:16Laurie?
32:17Add them all up.
32:18Add them all up, and what did you declare?
32:20258.
32:21There we go, that's what we've done.
32:23Well done.
32:24All right, and now we turn to Rachel,
32:26because, Rachel, what do you think?
32:28Can you crack this for us, 266?
32:30It was hidden in there.
32:32If you say 100 minus 1 is 99.
32:3650 divided by 25 is 2.
32:40Times them together for 198.
32:43Add the 75 for 173 and take away the 7.
32:47Sorry, 273.
32:49There we go, 266.
32:50Well done. Well done, Rachel.
32:52Excellent job.
32:54So, Laurie is in an impossibly strong position here,
32:5988 to build, brave 42 as we go into the final round.
33:02Gentlemen, fingers on buzzers,
33:04let's roll today's Countdown Conundrum.
33:21BELL RINGS
33:23Laurie.
33:24Passenger.
33:25Let's see whether you're right.
33:27Here we go. Passenger, well done.
33:29APPLAUSE
33:35Well done, Laurie.
33:37And a brave, brave attempt there, Bill.
33:40I must say, you held him back, because he's only 98.
33:43I think he was 106 or something yesterday.
33:45So, well done. Well done, Bill.
33:47And here's a goodie bag for you to take back to Knighton in Mid Wales
33:51with our very best wishes.
33:53You have a safe journey. We've enjoyed having you.
33:55Excellent stuff.
33:56And we shall see you, Laurie Gollingwood,
33:58with your four wins, halfway to becoming an OctoChamp.
34:02We shall see you tomorrow. Well done.
34:05See you tomorrow, Susie.
34:06See you tomorrow.
34:07And you. See you tomorrow.
34:09Rachel, he's a good player, isn't he?
34:11He's very good. Almost 100 today.
34:13I know. I know.
34:15Back tomorrow for more.
34:16See you then.
34:17See you then.
34:18Join us then, see how Laurie gets on.
34:20Same time, same place, you'll be sure of it.
34:22A very good afternoon to you.
34:24You can contact the programme by email at countdown at channel4.com,
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34:35You can also find our web page at channel4.com forward slash countdown.
34:42The secrets of the Royal House of Windsor tonight,
34:44Prince Charles' secret meeting with his uncle,
34:46exiled King Edward III at nine.
34:49Sunny property hunting next,
34:51with two families of estate agents helping Brits find homes in Spain here on four.
34:56But 15 to 1 is coming up.
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