The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 1 Episode 2
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00:00Arrested it was a worse time of my life. I ended up being charged with
00:04aggravated assault with three years of probation
00:09It's been a challenge going from the scandal to relationship to miscarriage to arrest to
00:16being pregnant again
00:22Okay
00:25After I was arrested
00:27Dakota and I like we actually never broke up
00:30We stayed in our relationship and I think we wanted it to be honest. It might not be the smartest decision in our situation
00:36It wasn't
00:38But it is what it is
00:41This place is so cute. I want to get a little drinky drink. Hello. I got this one. You got it. Thank you. I
00:49Was so shocked when I found out Taylor's pregnant and they couldn't believe it you were shocked. Yes
00:55You weren't surprised. She's been kind of MIA. I feel like she's like separated herself from all of us
01:00I mean, I feel like I would if it were me
01:03She had this winger scandal had an affair with her husband. Then she had her miscarriage with Dakota
01:08Continued breaking it on and off with Dakota. Then she got arrested and now she's pregnant. It's like
01:15Like they say guys like think with their dick that's like Taylor things with her vagina
01:19She does not think of like I don't think she thinks with anything
01:24Love her, but sometimes I'm like sweetheart like it's not that hard. Yeah
01:31Good morning. How's it going? Good. How are you? Good freezing. It is cold outside
01:39I'm so excited to go shopping. What all have you bought so far? Nothing
01:44You haven't bought anything
01:45I want to wait till after the shower to get stuff cuz then you know what you do and don't need, you know
01:50Yeah, I want to invite all of mom talk to come to my baby shower
01:55I feel like this would be like a good fresh start. Did you guys get her baby shower invite though? Yeah
02:01They're gonna go obviously. Yeah, are you going I?
02:06had one of
02:08my last
02:09probation
02:10Appointments today
02:12Yeah, what what did they say? So this is how it works
02:16So I went like once a month every month, but now it changes to every six months
02:20I go in so I don't have to go in every month, which is that's a step, you know, yeah
02:27Yeah, we should we just shouldn't even be there
02:31After the arrest I was under so much stress I
02:35Was filmed leaving the jail and then that was immediately on the internet
02:40It was a blessing in disguise that helped me like wake up
02:44I'm not gonna go through this again Taylor. I can't
02:47You've aged me like 10 years
02:50I've aged myself
02:53It's put a very
02:55I'd say negative image on mom time. I think that something needs to change we need to get back to
03:02What mom talk was before all this how do you want to exclude her from it? Like what are you saying?
03:06I just think like let's change the culture
03:10The swinger scandal sure. We got a lot of ice
03:13We got a lot of publicity from it, but I feel like ever since the arrest it's been the complete opposite
03:18I know for a lot of people like brand deals have gone down
03:22We need to make sure that we have a good reputation on social media
03:25Because brands aren't gonna want to work with us if they think we're going to jail and throwing stools at a wall
03:32We need to make sure to just completely get rid of that culture because it's our livelihood
03:37Right now I feel like we're like holding on a thread here. Yeah, I feel like it's a rocky
03:42Mm-hmm
03:43And I feel like it's gonna take at least one of us to kind of step up to keep the group going like it's almost weird
03:48Today doing content without Taylor. Yeah, this feels different, you know, yeah, it is weird
03:55I'm just like
03:58It's overwhelming like I feel like right now I just have a lot on my plate and Dakota's like
04:04Talking about marriage a lot and I'm not quite
04:09I'm not fully in
04:12I'm so scared to like just get hurt. I guess I've done like everything like push him. I
04:20Think it's more of a test like are you gonna stay here with me through like thick and thin, you know?
04:24And so I've done these things or I'm like tried to push him and self
04:28he's like you're trying to ruin this like you want to ruin this and he's like
04:31You're gonna do it. Eventually if you keep trying it
04:35my due date is in six to eight weeks and I
04:40Don't know
04:43Um, I'll like ever forgive myself
04:48And that's why I like really pushed Dakota because I
04:52Don't feel like I deserve this like a happy ending life
04:57And I think that's like something like I learned in therapy like I
05:02Just like kind of struggle. Um, and I'm like terrified
05:11Sorry, I can't talk
05:12I'm like hurting so bad inside. I
05:16Know I don't want you to you to feel that way. I think that's why I had like a psychotic break is because
05:21I
05:22Don't know how to handle it and not much hurt that I had at one time and in the whole social media was watching and
05:29I didn't know what to do
05:31After the arrest, I lost a lot of friends. I miss having the close friendships
05:36So I would like to just kind of start over beginning with my baby shower. Oh
05:42Gosh, I'm sorry
05:44I'm gonna put some lip gloss on
05:47Act like I didn't have a meltdown in the car
05:51Oh, thank you, I know it's cute, huh? Yeah
06:21Please
06:38Please Lord make me the biggest star the world has ever known
06:44I
06:46Biggest thing surviving as a working mom with young kids is self-care and hanging out with my close girlfriends
06:53I feel like I need to be on a chair
06:56Please Lord make me the biggest star the world has ever known. That was it
07:01Taylor used to be the face of mom talk and then when that all blew up
07:05No one really knew what mom talks stood for anymore. I feel like if mom talk is gonna remake its image
07:11It's up to the rest of us to step up and make it happen
07:12I know you don't want to make a tick-tock, but we've got to pay the bills
07:16I mean who else is gonna pay the bills who is currently like the breadwinner at home?
07:24Think all of us. Yeah, definitely for sure. Oh all of us. Really? Yeah, we all are look at us
07:31Social media has been like the greatest blessing in that sense
07:33I feel like we haven't known a brand deal in a long time zero November zero December and then I got three that in January
07:39I wonder if holidays were just slow
07:42The past year has been a little rough going for mom talk after Taylor's arrest
07:47But we still want to keep mom talk going and I think it's up to us to keep everything flowing
07:52I had one brand deal like going into the holidays. Yeah, and then dry
07:59What's the weirdest deal you've gotten?
08:01Mia Jen got one what a bladder
08:04What was after giving birth like your pelvic is just so weak that you could sneeze and like yourself
08:11Yes, it was for diapers. I just said yes there. I'm reading the brief and me and Jen are like, wait a minute
08:17Okay, these are diapers. I'm like, are you doing it? Okay, I feel like you probably have had more you have
08:24Yeah, don't you yeah
08:26Do you have a weird brand? Oh, you want to share guys? I genuinely need your opinion. What?
08:32Okay, so I got this offer and it's like I'm not gonna lie like the money is really good
08:36I'm like how much we talking
08:3920
08:40202 hundred thousand
08:43Thousand twenty thousand twenty. Okay. Well, I thought for what it's really good money. Okay. What is that? What the oh
08:51goodness
08:53I
08:59Can't just like
09:03What is this
09:06Whitney love it from spreading the good word door-to-door to spread in the word about vibrators who would have thought
09:13Congratulations. Is that a little microphone?
09:16Karaoke
09:22Here you want to see them let me just my name on it Oh did me balance for you
09:29It's your finger but better
09:35Okay, so what do they want you to do because so open so literally all I have to do is hold it
09:41And take a picture like just me and post it on my Instagram that's it
09:46in the Mormon religion
09:48We're very conservative. I worry about
09:52The people that I grew up with specifically my family seeing me promote this sex toy because it's a very very taboo
10:03I know I don't I wouldn't do it for 20. I'd do it for a hundred baby. I would do it
10:08Honestly, I think Whitney should take the deal for the vibrator
10:10I honestly don't see anything wrong with promoting a sex toy
10:15The amount was still not enough for me to post that on my feed but get that back girl. I personally would never promote
10:24Sex brand sex has been such a taboo topic especially within the church for so long
10:30It's like if we're trying to break the mold and modernize and get to a place of like normalizing things that starts with us
10:36More than just making tech talks. I just love this group of women getting together and having these important conversations
10:41I also feel like this mom talk group, especially being in Utah is breaking a norm
10:47We're raising this new generation and things are changing and I'm loving what's changing. I think that a lot of women
10:56Because of the shame and lack of knowledge. I think a lot of women don't even orgasm. I would
11:03Die
11:05No, I'm dead ass never in my life
11:08I'm like scared. Take this home with you. My name is Layla Taylor. I'm 22
11:13I got married when I was 19 me and my husband were then married for three years
11:19But we ended up getting divorced. So I've only ever really dated about four people
11:24So that's not a lot of time to discover yourself. Have you tried a toy?
11:28Yeah, and anytime I get close to the feeling of it I get scared and I like stop
11:33Yeah, two kids 22 never in my life. I went to a very
11:38Mormon populated high school. So I'd be like, okay, what's the one thing that all of my friends have in common?
11:42They're all part of the church. So I got baptized on my own when I was 16 being black in the church
11:49I have never taken it personally, but you definitely do stick out like a sore thumb
11:54I feel like I'm like missing out and I like want to but I just you will
11:58Once you do it once you will want I know you'll be like a teenage boy
12:05No, she literally starts levitating
12:11Do it for yourself don't even do it for him cuz sex isn't just about the guy
12:15It's about us to you know, the more you enjoy it the more they enjoy it, you know, I don't have that problem
12:21I'm gonna enjoy it funny. Yeah, you definitely
12:24It's for
12:26Before you're married, it's like sex is taboo
12:29But then the second you get married you're supposed to be this like porn star for your husband
12:32We know who the real porn star is for their husband
12:43My name is Jen Affleck, I am 24 years old facts gonna kill me for this one, but Ben Affleck
12:50This is second cousin
12:51I'm definitely the first Jen Affleck and not only that her middle name is the same as mine Jennifer Lynn Affleck
12:57I don't know. Maybe we can convert them to the church. I am a content creator
13:02My goal was really just to be able to provide for my family. I've always been super comfortable with my sexuality
13:09which I
13:11Definitely think has also gotten me in trouble
13:14Because I am a conservative Mormon I do follow all those rules
13:18I'm not kidding. You inspired me like full like for Brett and I've never done any way you did it. Yes
13:24Like you took a bar. Oh, I took so many
13:44Here
13:46We are a group of women and mom talk who can inspire other women to not be ashamed to use a sex toy
13:53I think is very empowering. I just worry that my family would be a bit shocked by me
14:01advertising something like this
14:13I
14:22Come on in how's it going? You guys can sit down. What are you doing?
14:27Dishes, what are you guys up to? Your mom drugged me here off of my job sites
14:32really
14:33So what's so important you need to talk to us about?
14:36Did you not tell him mom? I did tell him that Dakota was probably gonna move in
14:42Not yeah, probably like yeah, he's moving in
14:46when
14:48Today like now
14:50Yeah
14:52I'm very excited for this next step one
14:54We have a child on the way and I feel like I really just want to
14:59Try to move forward heal and really work on our relationship
15:03I know you guys prefer marriage before moving in but like that's obviously not how it's gonna go, you know
15:10I'm not supportive of it
15:13Why do you have to rush it?
15:15Because we're having a baby. I know but that doesn't matter you'd rather me do it alone
15:19Yeah, that's the choice you made when you got pregnant
15:22in our religion
15:25Marriage is like essential to have that partnership
15:29We believe like it's a sacred thing
15:31That's what me and your mom have tried to teach you
15:35The church teaches that we shouldn't live with a partner outside of marriage
15:41You already got divorced, you know at a young age and then you bring Dakota in this when you don't know if he's a hundred
15:47Percent sober. I don't want you to be like, oh this is not gonna work out. Okay. I have a baby from a second daddy
15:53I don't want a revolving door of men
15:57Attached to my daughter and to my grandkids for having this baby out of wedlock
16:02You guys can be mad all you want, but he's moving in and he's gonna help me with the baby
16:06That's the goal is to get married. It's not like I'm having this kid. I don't want to get married ever
16:10You want to give yourself time before you marry someone for the rest of your life again, you know
16:14Like it's my second marriage. So it's like I'm scared. Yeah, I'm like again. You shouldn't have got pregnant
16:19It's true
16:21Is that him probably
16:26I'll go say hi and help him. I'll be right back
16:32Going here. I'm gonna help you bring some boxes. You don't have to baby. Do you have any light ones a lot of them?
16:38I mean, I'll get most my heavy stuff. I just told him that you're moving in. Look at that one just now
16:42Are you listening? Oh, sorry. No, what I told him just now you just told them
16:47He's like, oh you brought him here
16:50He doesn't have anything no couches dirty clothes. Yeah, I didn't know your parents are even gonna be here. Do they need help?
16:57So
17:00He's scary it is scary we go
17:03It's all that gray hair. They've caused you to go gray
17:07Hopefully I can you do
17:09They don't ever listen to anything. We tell them to do anyways, so
17:14Seriously do you need any help?
17:18Like I have more but so first of all you knock up my daughter
17:22My gosh
17:25Okay, but you tripped and fell yeah
17:29Yeah, so moving in
17:36That's shocking
17:38Is that how you were raised you should know no see here's here's so here's what happened
17:44You just knock up girls. No and see everything we did completely opposite. I think like
17:50Realistically we would have liked to have done it the traditional the traditional way, but given our situation
17:57I want to also help Taylor's so I just feel like the only way for me to really do that is to be in here
18:03I'm excited to have another life into our family a little baby, but I
18:09Do have my reservations about this whole thing. This is honestly
18:14Everything I've ever wanted in my future. I just never thought it was possible for me to have
18:18I do want a family. I want all those things
18:21Not only that. I love your daughter
18:23Like I love her a lot and we align a lot on what we want in our future together. Yeah
18:29Which makes it really nice. We talked about that like even just like
18:34Religion, I guess as simple as like I wanted someone in the church
18:39To marry again, and he wanted the same. Yeah. Oh you did. Yeah
18:44Since the arrest and my pregnancy, I feel like I have changed spiritually I
18:51Have really looked at like what's important my priorities?
18:54I want someone like to go to church with when we go to church
18:58Like I don't want to be in a relationship or like I'm taking my kids alone and stuff and I just really wanted that like
19:04And you have usually the same morals and values. I feel like or do we always follow them?
19:10No, but we're pretty aligned. Yeah in that way
19:14being pregnant and
19:16recommitting and trying to go back to church is not the typical Mormon thing to do and most wouldn't and I feel like they'd be a
19:22Little bit more shameful and I do have those feelings anxiety fear of going back in and being judged
19:28However, I still love our faith and really want to make an effort to go
19:32So we are just gonna try I think that when you're pregnant and you're bringing a life into the world
19:38You need to be really considering marriage. It's really not that different, you know
19:44It's a coda moving in with my parents being here did not go at all, but I'm hoping our baby shower goes better
20:10My god
20:14Oh my gosh, it's getting so big oh small though. What the heck it's like you're lucky I get huge
20:20I know and I'm almost like
20:21There I know sweet. So we're looking for stuff for the baby. Yes. I want to show you like a picture. What's the vibe?
20:28I'm having my baby shower at this venue called the white shanty
20:32It is Mormon owned and they pretty much have like every Mormon event
20:36You can think of I just really want this baby shower to be perfect
20:40And I just really need my support system back. So I just hope all my friends come and show up for me
20:45We want to find like some eucalyptus
20:47And then baby's breath. Yeah, okay
20:50And I was looking at these like dang. I want to get some plants. I'd probably kill it on accident though
20:56So I am kind of nervous
20:58About my baby shower. Why just to see everyone. I'm just like
21:04Scared. Yeah, honestly, there's just no I don't blame you
21:07But I feel like when everything came out, I felt bad for you
21:11Everyone was shitting on you and I was like, I would hate to be in her position
21:14even if I effed up and everyone's like
21:17I'm like I couldn't just like I can't like imagine your mental health is that if anything it made me like want to come towards
21:23You more like this girl like needs a friend
21:26After the scandal and then obviously the arrest the moms and mom talk all for sure judged me
21:32They didn't know the background of the story
21:34We don't like Taylor those who love and support you will be there
21:37Yeah, and I guess I can kind of give you an idea of like who cares and who doesn't we don't have time for fake
21:43friends, you know, I
21:45Do feel like you've done a great job at taking accountability for like things from the past and like what you've done
21:50Yeah
21:51but I do think that you take all of the accountability and you act like it's all you and then like
21:58Dakota looks like this angel sent from heaven who's like this perfect person when he's not
22:05Like I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. I
22:08Worry because of like what I've seen him say to you
22:13Me and Mikayla went to this event Taylor shows up and then her ex walked in and immediately Taylor was like stressed
22:20Dakota was freaking out. He basically was saying like f you
22:24You're nothing slut and Taylor was sitting there like shaking she doesn't deserve that
22:29I just think that he's not treated you the way you should be treated
22:40When we were at that event and he was texting I was looking at your shoulder I was reading your whole conversation
22:47Because I can see that you were like shutting down and you were so anxious and I was like what's going on
22:52I just think that he's not treated you the way you should be treated
22:56But I also feel like things have gotten so much better. Like what has changed like he's being less toxic or both of us
23:06How so just like with the addiction or just like in the relation ever
23:10Taylor definitely hasn't confided in me as much since she got pregnant
23:14I don't really hear much about their relationship anymore, which I knew eventually what happened
23:18That's what usually does happen those toxic relationships two weeks before she told me she was pregnant
23:23She called me basically saying I want to get out of this relationship
23:27I don't know how to get out like she was basically asking for my help and then two weeks later
23:31She's telling us she's pregnant. I always think about you
23:34That's why I always check in cuz I'm like, I want you to know you can like talk to me
23:36I think that's why I always like defend you cuz I've been there
23:40Yeah, I'm telling you so many other girls don't and they won't
23:44And I feel like I really gave him benefit of the doubt, but I haven't seen any progress
23:48Maybe that's why like I only know what I saw in the past and that like pisses me off. Sure
23:52There's been a lot. I will say yeah, I can honestly say there's been so much progress
23:58Dakota is obviously very insecure because people who are confident and themselves in the relationship
24:03They don't act like that, but it's still no excuse for his behavior
24:06I'm just trying to be a good friend to Taylor and I see those red flags and it scares me
24:11I don't trust him. I don't think he's good for Taylor. I don't think that they should be together period
24:17Do you think I should just do this on my own?
24:19Like you'd rather be have you be happy without this person than miserable with them just for the baby. I
24:24Don't like them. I
24:29See Macy as like this
24:31Protective friend. She's always defending me in situations. I do appreciate that. She's blunt and always been honest
24:37I know she wants the best for me
24:38But at the same time it's really hard to hear and accept as well
24:43All right. Well, I want to look at the pots. Yeah. Yeah, let's look at the pot
24:46Oh
25:07Hey fun, you guys already have everything out. Yeah, guess who did it?
25:12Lexi is she the new favorite? I don't know about new
25:19Being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
25:22I know it's a whole mouthful. My family is very conservative. My family's family is very conservative
25:29How's your boyfriend?
25:30Good mom. How do you feel that? He's not Mormon. He's a great kid
25:34Why do I feel like if I were to date a non-mormon boy in high school mom would have absolutely said no way
25:41Well now, you know, I wouldn't have cared
25:48Of course it's gonna weigh in to my decision whether or not I'm gonna promote a vibrator
25:52I'm just trying to figure out is this a gray area or is this an absolute?
25:59Do not promote this
26:01So mom and Lexi, I'm curious to know your point of view on this, too. I
26:07Got a really juicy brand deal for a vibrator
26:11Okay
26:13Just to promote it on my social media
26:17Why would you do that? Well one the money is really good
26:21and do and
26:24I feel like I can go about it where it's like empowering
26:28You don't think it's like empowering
26:32No
26:34Why do you like that like matches your platform though? Cuz you're all like, oh my god kids homemaking
26:41vibrator I
26:44Mean yeah, like let's empower each other
26:48does much I
26:49Just think a lot of that is private personal
26:53But I also I wanted to cuz I like I didn't want it to be shunned. It's like if you need this tool
27:00to enjoy
27:02Intimacy with your partner more like there shouldn't be shame around it. Do you feel like there is with the church in sex toys?
27:09Probably yeah, I think it's a personal thing between you and your partner
27:14What if you were single?
27:16I'm not sure how I feel about that
27:18You think that it should be a no-no. I think when you're seeking pleasure, it can just get out of hand
27:25And I put these in I feel like we were so involved in the church
27:29growing up even in young women's or girls camp or young women's activities like whenever we would talk about the law of chastity or
27:37Sex like it was always no, no, no, no, no
27:41There's this verse. I remember where it talks about how sex was comparable to murder. And so that's what's
27:49Going in my mind as a young woman. I even have the sex talk before I got married
27:55To Connor and I was a virgin
28:00I'd have figured it out on my own
28:02My
28:04Wedding night should have come from a horror movie. That was a horrible horrible night
28:10It was a conversation that was never had so we both just went in this blindly. Okay, maybe not a horror movie a comedy
28:21I don't know if it's a Utah thing
28:23but no like when I like would watch these movies and they like hold the banana and like put the condom on the banana I'm
28:29like
28:30Never at my school. I
28:33Remember at your shower that your friends through you. Yeah, the bachelorette party
28:38I mean you had to know so you guys had penis cookies. I was kind of like what is going on?
28:42I I had just had another baby. She was a toddler cut me some slack. You should have taught me how you had the baby
28:51Obviously you figured it out. I wish that I had conversations with my mom about
28:58Topics such as this and it's hard because you know
29:01My mom was raised in the church and her mom didn't talk to her about it. We just never did talk about it
29:07So I just took that as oh, this is just something you don't talk about. It was this is
29:11shameful
29:12Horrible don't ever do this. Don't even think about it
29:15If you do your horrible person like that's literally what I believe
29:19If I could go back in time
29:20I would check that off of my parenting list to make sure that I
29:24Asked if there was anything that you wanted to know that you didn't know. Oh
29:29I love you. Mom. The sex is great now if you're wondering
29:35And you know what made it better
29:37Twice so I wish my mom had talked to me about it, but I'm so happy that she's listening now
29:43Sex can be viewed and religion is like disgusting but times are changing
29:48It's a new generation coming in with mom talk we're here we're embracing our sexuality
29:54It's empowering and it's exciting and it's fun. I
29:59Think I'm gonna do it. I think I'm gonna promote at the vibrator. You hate it. You hate it so much
30:07Well, there's lots of things I don't agree with but that's okay
30:12The cycle ends here. I'm going to have this conversation because it needs to be had maybe I'll send you one. It's okay
30:37Be careful watch your step this slushy
30:42I
30:46Guess it right over here. I'm doing well. How are you guys? Thank you so much. This is so this is cool. Oh, yeah
30:54Thank you. Thank you
30:57So who's going to the baby shower invited my family?
31:02Your family and then I think mostly all of my close mom friends are coming like they'll be there
31:06Is it all the mom talk girls? Yeah, I'm talking. How was uh,
31:11Macy didn't you go to the flower shop with her? It was good. We kind of just caught up
31:15She asked about how we were doing. Oh, she's still talking shit
31:18Like always no. Yeah, that's all she does. She doesn't like me. It's not that she doesn't like you
31:25It's like she's been the one friend that I've opened up to about things. So she's of course just no no, she's petty
31:32I'm sorry, like like there's a difference like I've opened up to my friends to Taylor
31:37She doesn't like any picture you post of us like she's so petty. She won't even like the picture
31:43Who does that? Sorry, that's weird. I don't know where she seems like she has this right to like cuz I can find in her
31:52She's the only person you can fight in
31:57But I haven't even tried I am scared of friendships right now like just like kind of like I'm scared of like a
32:03marriage and everything like just from everything that's gone on like I
32:07I'm scared to have close friends
32:09I really am because the close friends that I had the last five years were not even really my friends and we're gone in the
32:13Snap of the fingers. Macy was one of the first ones to come and be my friend. I
32:18Have screwed up with mom talk twice now first the scandal and then my arrest so I do feel on the outs
32:26insecure and
32:28Probably a little bit judged
32:29I don't know all of their intentions and I don't think you ever really do know your friendships until something happens and then you find out
32:37The hard way and I don't want there to be drama
32:39And so I'm hoping that mom talk they will kind of give me another shot and we can all have a fresh start together
33:02Yeah
33:04Hi
33:06Okay, awesome, thank you
33:12Whoa, this feels so weird. Oh look, he's like no. No, you can do it buddy
33:19It's Himalayan salt. Yeah, but supposed to be really good for your immune system
33:23So it's like anytime my kids are sick or if I'm sick, like I'm like, uh, we need to go to a salt cave
33:29My kids do
33:32Okay, wait, what are you wearing to Taylor's baby shower? I don't know if I'm gonna go to that
33:37Why I don't have that kind of relationship with her. We've cultivated this relationship online, but
33:44We don't have one in real life. I don't even think she'd care the whole time
33:47I've known her it's always been give give give and it's never been reciprocated and I'm just kind of like
33:53Well, then why am I why am I still giving why am I still supporting?
33:56Why am I still entertaining this relationship when there's nothing even there?
34:01Like I'm know it's gonna be fun, but it's like and I don't want to do that anymore
34:06I want to lead mom talk back in the direction that it was originally founded on I
34:12Am NOT supporting this fake friendship that we don't have anymore
34:15I just feel like I have to walk around on eggshells. Yeah every time I'm around her
34:22Because of this audience that she has on social media. It's like I'm so intimidated by it
34:27I'm like, oh my god, like look what she did to her best friends. Look how she fucked them over
34:32When this whole mom talk swinger drama happened it was
34:37Immediate crash we were all in this massive group chat and then people are just fighting back and forth and friendships were torn apart
34:44because of what Taylor was saying and
34:46It sucks that she even allowed something like that to happen online. It looks like we're all the bestest of friends
34:52It's like but we're not all she cares about is herself. I genuinely feel that way
34:57This is definitely typical Whitney
34:59She will have problems with somebody have tension and she just wants to avoid it rather than to talk to them every time
35:06we're together she has to create a tick-tock and it has to make sure that like she's shown as the Queen B and we're all
35:11Like these girls who kiss her ass and like her pee and I'm like, I'm not I'm done with that facade
35:15I don't want to entertain it anymore. I'm out
35:18I'm not really sure why Whitney would consider not going to this especially just because one of the purposes of our group and mom talk
35:25Is that we come together and we support each other through all the things that we're going through in life. She was getting a divorce
35:31She was having an affair. She got arrested. I'm done with that
35:35I feel like all of us in mom talks really important that we all stay strong and united
35:40It makes me honestly really worried that Whitney might not show up. I
35:44Don't trust her. I don't feel safe around her. I don't want anything to do with her and I think that's fine
35:56Oh
36:09Actually, I have an idea what if I'm gonna put all the greenery on here and then we'll just keep this one the green
36:15Hey Taylor, what did you want to do with the welcome sign?
36:18They have on the table and yeah, we have easels we could put it on. What do you think would look best?
36:22I think if you used an easel, let's do that. Yes. Yes
36:29I'm kind of nervous
36:32With the arrest, I don't know necessarily if the girls did judge or have any opinions about it
36:38I came back to the church try to get my life together and just kind of redeem myself and I'm like finally getting there
36:46We're we're moving we're progressing
36:49But I feel like I
36:51Have distanced myself from you know, all of my friends
36:54I don't know who's gonna show up and who's not but I do want them there for me. I don't want to do this alone
37:01I'm stressed. I'm like
37:03anxiety attack
37:18I
37:48Know
37:56Despite my issues with Dakota. I know it's important to be able to show up for Taylor for her baby's shower
38:01She has gone through so much in the last year. I'll make sure she feels loved and supported
38:05I think when Taylor sees as a group of girls rallying around her
38:08She'll be more excited and happy to come back to mom talks that can all start making videos again and be a united front
38:15I
38:17Am here to fully support her on her journey and whatever her journey looks like
38:23Even if she's taken a step back lately, which I totally understand and respect
38:27I have supported Taylor through all of the ups and downs
38:31Throughout mom talk and this is no different
38:34You know belly with the ribbon
38:36You are gonna cut how big you think Taylor is and then whoever is the closest to guessing how big she is
38:43Wins a prize. I just like he's gonna be such a sweet guy. Yes. He's gonna be really cute
38:49What was
38:51I think he'll be a great dad. The baby daddy part is where I think we worry a little bit
38:56There's just like stuff from the past. I think so bugs me when you're at that event
39:00Something like if you like they feel like you're an epic war or something
39:06Okay
39:07You guys have your ribbons. Yeah, I would love to check for you guys do a check
39:12Awkward
39:16I'm gonna put my hand on your belly. I love it. Do you guys know where Whitney is? Oh, it's Whitney not here yet
39:26Is she coming last night I was with her and
39:31She's not coming. Wait, what?
39:34Yeah, Oh, did she tell her coming? No, and I told her maybe she should but she said that Taylor's probably not even gonna notice
39:41I am shocked that when he is not coming to the baby shower at the same time
39:46I know she's not a big fan of Taylor right now. So it doesn't surprise me, but she should at least send her a text
39:52I feel like this is sending a message to Taylor that she does not wanna be friends and she does not care about Taylor
39:57I should say like I don't want to go into like too much detail
39:59But she just says that she just doesn't want to be involved with Taylor
40:04Can I get a pic with all of you girls? Is everyone here? Um, I think so Whitney. Where's Whitney? Oh, yeah
40:11I don't know if she's coming. What do you mean?
40:13Did she say she wasn't coming? Um, I think I guess she told Layla last night. She's couldn't come. I
40:20Honestly, thank you. Why why isn't she coming?
40:23I'm I wait. You're not coming. You're like the worst liar ever. I know
40:31You guys don't have a friendship so she felt like she didn't need to come today because you guys don't have a friendship
40:36Oh, well, that's news to me. I don't want to be the one to have to bring it up the messenger
40:41Hoping you wouldn't notice so I don't know she's not here
40:45the tension between Whitney and Taylor is
40:49very
40:50Tangible with them at all times
40:53It's like you're either team Taylor or you are team Whitney
40:56I feel like they both love the spotlight in different ways
41:00But they both have this very alpha female energy and that seems to be the bigger issue
41:12I
41:22Hey Whitney, yeah, this is Leanne tase mom. How's it going?
41:28Good. I was just calling because I noticed you weren't here. Your mom called Whitney. Oh my god
41:34Yeah
41:38Taylor's mom called Whitney. I would die at my mom to die. What is going on?
41:54Here's a clear division in mom talk
41:57sinners first Saints
41:59Zach's parents are very conservative. They don't smoke. They don't drink. I thought it was a graduation party guys are all going
42:07We're hosting Lucas baby blessing and like super sacred and spiritual you just don't want any bad energy
42:13I didn't know we were uninvited that was to hurt you
42:16It's kind of like the mean girls in a sense because it's like them three against the world to me
42:20I have a gift for you though
42:22Oh
42:25This was completely intimate and off the table
42:29It is very hypocritical because she wants to create the safe space with mom talk. I just think it's below the belt