Vladimir Putin reiterates Russia’s conditions for peace in Ukraine during a lengthy phone call with Donald Trump 🇷🇺🤝🇺🇸. Meanwhile, Trump hints that his peace efforts may also aim at “making America rich again” 💰⚖️. In Gaza, Israel orders evacuation from Khan Yunis ahead of an “unprecedented attack” ⚠️🚨 — but civilians face dire challenges with no safe exits, famine, and destroyed medical facilities 🏥❌. The world watches as tensions escalate on multiple fronts.
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00:00Now, the key to ending the war in Ukraine is eliminating its root causes.
00:04And that was the message from Vladimir Putin after he spent more than two hours on the phone with President Donald Trump.
00:13I would like to note that our conversation was very informative and very frank.
00:18And on the whole, in my view, it was very useful.
00:21First of all, I thank the President of the United States for the American support
00:25for the resumption of direct negotiations between Russia and Ukraine on a possible peace agreement.
00:31The question, of course, is for the Russian and Ukrainian sides to show maximum aspiration for peace
00:37and to find compromises that would suit all sides.
00:41On the whole, Russia's position is clear.
00:44The main thing for us is to eliminate the root causes of this conflict.
00:49Now, I think that there's a good chance we can get this done.
00:54I believe Putin wants to do it.
00:55Now, if I thought Putin didn't want, I mean, that's what I do.
00:57My whole life is like deals, one big deal.
01:01And if I thought that President Putin did not want to get this over with,
01:05I wouldn't even be talking about it because I'd just pull out.
01:10What did you hear that gave you confidence that he does want peace versus buying time?
01:16I think he's had enough.
01:18I think he's had enough.
01:19This has been a long time.
01:20This has been going on for more than three years.
01:23Well, joining me in the studio now to talk more about this,
01:29we have with me in the studio RT correspondent Anastasia Valodina and our contributor Tara Reid.
01:35Ladies, I'm glad to have you join me in the studio.
01:38Nastia, I'm going to start with you.
01:39Now, take us through what has been said by both presidents in the wake of this highly anticipated phone call.
01:48Well, this was the third official telephone conversation between the leaders of the two countries.
01:54The conversation lasted for over two hours and it comes just a few days after the much anticipated talks in Istanbul between Russian and Ukrainian delegations.
02:04And we have to mention here, it's very important that it was the first meeting between the two delegations since the start,
02:10since the last meeting that was held in March of 2022.
02:15And after the phone call ended, Putin gave a statement to the press in which he stated the following,
02:21that Russia advocates for the cessation of hostilities, but most effective path to peace needs to be developed.
02:28And ceasefire is feasible, but it has to be worked on.
02:32And of course, Putin underlined that most importantly, the root causes of the Ukraine conflict have to be eliminated.
02:39And he also talked about finding compromises that would suit both sides, the Russian and the Ukrainian.
02:45But it's still somewhat unclear what kind of compromises there might be.
02:50But most importantly, Trump and Putin did not agree on the 30-day ceasefire, which was talked about in the last few days and weeks.
02:58But what's particularly interesting in all of this is that Trump, being the man of business,
03:04sees, of course, benefit in all of this, especially in trade.
03:07Let's listen in.
03:09Russia wants to do large-scale trade with the United States when this catastrophic bloodbath is over.
03:16And I agree.
03:17There is tremendous opportunity for Russia to create massive amounts of jobs and wealth.
03:22Its potential is unlimited.
03:24Likewise, Ukraine can be a great beneficiary on trade in the process of rebuilding its country.
03:30And of course, besides the fact that Trump sees benefit in all of this, we have to admit,
03:35and I think Tara would agree with me on this,
03:37that the Trump administration has shown time and time again that it's ready to advocate for peace
03:43and is interested in resolving the conflict in Ukraine, which could not be said about the Biden's administration.
03:50Yeah.
03:51Well, Tara, let me come to you now.
03:53The issue there is President Putin has reiterated time and again that the key to peace and lasting peace
04:00is addressing the root causes.
04:02Do you think this is something the collective West would like to engage in?
04:07Well, there you have it, Mike.
04:08And, you know, Trump said very clearly this is not his war.
04:11He said that yesterday.
04:13He has said it several times.
04:14Marco Rubio emphasized that this was a Biden-Obama war that started way back.
04:20The, you know, leading up to this special military operation was NATO's aggression.
04:27So it started in 2008.
04:28There was a coup in 2014 where Zelensky was installed, who's basically operating for the West.
04:35And that's been proven that coup was revealed in 2014, later on.
04:40But what happened was that made Ukraine not neutral.
04:43They were trying to join NATO.
04:44There was an aggression towards Russia.
04:46This was seen as a proxy war.
04:47So when Vladimir Putin talks about root causes, he's talking about the aggression of NATO,
04:52the non-neutrality of Ukraine.
04:55Ukraine needs to be neutral.
04:57And also, of course, the aggression to the eastern, to the Donbass region, where 14,000 people over eight, you know, 14,000 people over eight-year period were killed by Nazis.
05:09The Azov battalion is Nazi.
05:11So the special military operation is trying to denazify this area and also to get NATO to back off, because they're right up on the Russian borders.
05:21Now, you have the Europeans upset, right, because they wanted Trump to push for a ceasefire and for sanctions, more anti-Russia sanctions, which he did neither.
05:34So there we have it.
05:36And I think it was a very positive conversation between Vladimir Putin and Trump.
05:43All right.
05:44Nastia, just how committed is the United States to a peace deal here?
05:49Can you walk us through that?
05:50Well, Washington essentially hinted at the fact that it might pull out of the negotiations if things don't work out.
05:57And J.D. Vance actually underlined that Washington is essentially tired of the conflict that the previous administration has started.
06:05We should be able to move beyond the mistakes that have been made in the past.
06:09But that takes two to tanko.
06:11I know the president's willing to do that.
06:12But if Russia's not willing to do that, then we're eventually just going to have to say, this is not our war.
06:17It's Joe Biden's war.
06:18It's Vladimir Putin's war.
06:19It's not our war.
06:20We're going to try to end it.
06:21But if we can't end it, we're eventually going to say, you know what?
06:24That was worth a try, but we're not doing it anymore.
06:25We can draw the following conclusion from his statement that basically if Washington pulls out of the peacemaking efforts,
06:34Ukraine will be left alone with the EU that won't be able to support Ukraine nonstop.
06:39And with Russia, that is clearly winning on the battlefield.
06:43But we have to keep in mind, of course, that you can talk about ceasefire as much as you want.
06:48But Russia had been very clear from the very start that the root causes of the Ukrainian conflict must be eliminated first.
06:54Tara, Kiev claims to want a peace, a peace deal, a resolution and all of that.
07:02But they keep setting demands that even American officials feel these things are unrealistic.
07:08Why do you think the Ukrainians are so, let me use the word, stubborn, even when they don't have the cards,
07:15if I have to borrow the words from President Trump?
07:17Well, is it the Ukrainians or is it Zelensky, who is the illegitimate president at this point?
07:24You know, he hasn't held an election.
07:26He's banned political opponents.
07:28He has banned the Russian language and the Russian Orthodox Church.
07:32So he's operating as a dictator.
07:34You know, I'll say it again.
07:35I think that peace will move ahead a lot faster once Zelensky has been removed.
07:40The U.S. is done with him.
07:42So when they're talking about pulling out, pulling out from what, pulling out from the talks?
07:46Well, what that means is all aid will stop, which should have stopped.
07:50Trump said he would stop it before.
07:51So all military aid and all money would stop flowing to Zelensky.
07:56But beyond that, too, I think what it also means is they're going to be left to their own devices.
08:02So and that doesn't pose any kind of threat to Russia.
08:06And as far as sanctions, well, there's already 26,000 sanctions on Russia and Russia's economy is doing fine.
08:12In fact, it's thriving.
08:13So really, Russia is in a position where it doesn't have to do much of anything.
08:18It's already gained those territories.
08:20So going back to what you were saying about Ukrainians being stubborn, let's talk about Zelensky because he's the problem.
08:26He was the one yesterday talking about territorial, you know, things that had to be worked out.
08:32And, you know, the four territories he was talking about have already voted to be with Russia legitimately.
08:39And he stopped talking about Crimea finally.
08:42But we'll see what else he tries to throw in there.
08:45But I think that Washington mentioned about a month ago about removing Zelensky.
08:50And I think we've reached the end of the road with him being part of any of these peace negotiations.
08:56All right.
08:56Nastya, what has been the reaction from Europe to this phone call?
09:01Well, Europe just continues with its warmongering rhetoric.
09:05EU leaders had a so-called panic call right after the conversation between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.
09:12And also Ursula von der Leyen posted on X thanking Donald Trump for his efforts to bring ceasefire to Ukraine,
09:20but underlining that EU will continue to support Ukraine.
09:23And EU leaders, we could say, could also be upset by the fact that Trump is not showing any desire to impose new sanctions against Russia.
09:33Meanwhile, Europe itself continues to threaten Russia with more sanctions.
09:38And, you know, this just seems absurd considering how relatively positive this phone call between Trump and Putin was.
10:01And Europe isn't even hiding the fact that it wants to prolong the conflict and wants this war to continue.
10:08And what's ironic is that actually Keir Starmer, who on the same day stated that Britain is back on the word arena,
10:15was not on the list of those whom Trump called after he had a phone conversation with Vladimir Putin.
10:20Yeah, exactly. If I have to stand on that, Tara, the point is President Trump didn't, you know,
10:28the UK leader was not one of those he informed of the conversation with President Putin.
10:34What does this say about this omission?
10:37Well, the U.S. has moved on without Europe.
10:39I mean, and, you know, when Trump ran, remember, he wanted to talk,
10:42he talked about on the campaign trail about getting rid of NATO.
10:45What is the use of NATO?
10:47NATO is not a peacekeeping force.
10:49It's been causing a lot of these endless wars.
10:52And he's talked about that openly.
10:54He's also said that it's up to them to deal with their own defense,
10:57and they haven't been doing their part.
10:58So I think with these negotiations, he sees them as stirring up problems,
11:03aligning themselves with Zelensky, and, you know,
11:06continuing this war that Trump said doesn't belong to him.
11:10So I think he's moving away, and he's also pulling the rug out of their legitimacy.
11:15And let's face it, Macron and Starmer, you know, they have no place to go without the U.S.
11:23You know, it reminds me of my brothers, right?
11:25My little brother would start the fight and say, well, yeah, but right behind me is the big brother.
11:30Mike is coming, you know?
11:32And so that's what Macron's doing.
11:34He's saying, well, the U.S. is right.
11:35Well, no, the U.S. is not.
11:37We're not going to be involved with this proxy war against Russia.
11:40And I think the U.K. and France and Germany are starting to come to that realization.
11:44Italy already left the table.
11:46They're like, we're not going to be part of this.
11:48We're not sending our troops.
11:49So I think with this, it's inevitable that Europe and Russia have a relationship that's more positive again.
11:58How and when they'll get there, I don't know.
12:00But I think the U.S. is really interested in economic partnership, as Trump outlined.
12:06And I think a year from now, we'll be sitting in this table talking about economic innovations
12:10and maybe even innovations in space and partnerships between Russia and the U.S. in space again.
12:17So I'm hopeful for the future of peace.
12:21And I think that's where we're headed.
12:22Yeah.
12:22Being positive, that's the way it should go.
12:24Thank you, Tara Reid, for bringing us up to speed on this.
12:27Your opinion is amazing.
12:29Nastya, thank you very much as well.
12:31Right.
12:32Now, following the call between Putin and Trump, we got reaction from a former Virginia state senator.
12:39Richard Black says that the two leaders have their work cut out as some Western powers don't want to see a peace deal.
12:47Keep in mind, the European Union has a bit of a longer view of this war.
12:55They feel that if they can just wait until President Trump is out of office in like, you know, almost four years from now, but four years comes and goes.
13:08And what they would like to do, the European Union wants to have some forces inside of Ukraine and to be ready in case the Democrats are able to win the White House and change American policies.
13:26At that point, the EU and NATO, of course, would like to then resume the war and enlarge it.
13:36And I think this is I think the Trump administration very keenly aware of that.
13:43I think President Putin is very aware of the fact that the EU has very sinister, long range intentions.
13:53Russia has always been prepared to make peace from the very earliest time in the war.
14:00But at the same time, President Putin, he feels responsible for Russia.
14:06He he can't just say, well, you know, I happen to like this fellow Trump, so I'll I'll make a favorable deal.
14:14But Trump will come and go. I wish he would stay in office for a long time.
14:21But the fact of the matter is he's got four years and can't run for reelection.
14:25And President Putin has to take the long view that it is his duty.
14:36It is President Putin's duty to preserve the integrity of the Russian Federation.
14:45He must not allow it to be attacked and caused to disintegrate.
14:51And he will not.
14:52Well, to the Middle East now, it's been another bloody 24 hours in Gaza with at least 52 people reportedly killed.
15:02And that's as Israel intensifies its ground offensive.
15:06The IDF has ordered locals to leave the city of Kanyunis in the south, warning of an upcoming, quote,
15:12unprecedented attack to destroy the capabilities of Hamas.
15:16But the Euromed Human Rights Monitor says that the evacuation order is akin to a death sentence.
15:24These orders were issued without providing safe corridors or alternative destinations amid the collapse of shelter capacity,
15:33depletion of relief supplies and destruction of essential facilities.
15:37The continued bombardment of both new and previously established displacement areas has transformed displacement into a mechanism of slow death rather than survival.
15:48Large crowds of Gazans can be seen leaving their destroyed neighborhoods, taking whatever belongings they can to areas in the region they hope will be safer.
15:59Meanwhile, the large-scale Israeli military campaign, including airstrikes and a ground incursion since October 2023,
16:07has already resulted in the deaths of over 53,000 people and left more than 121,000 wounded.
16:15And that's according to local health sources.
16:18RT Saeed Swerki reports now on the dire situation on the ground.
16:25This is the Gaza Strip, a land of delayed and immediate death, where there is no shelter from Israeli airstrikes.
16:32Evacuation orders are coming again, which will empty most of the city of Kanyunis.
16:37People are gathering their remaining belongings and moving by any means necessary.
16:41The city of Kanyunis, declared a red zone, will be the site of an unprecedented attack, according to the warning of the Israeli army.
16:49These attacks are aimed at destroying the ability to resist.
16:52While the Palestinians are aware that Tel Aviv wants to take over their land,
16:55these evacuation orders are perceived as a harbinger of forced displacement and expulsion of the residents from their homeland.
17:02They demanded that we move to the eastern areas, including Bani Suheila and Absan al-Kabir.
17:09As you can see, the elderly are in a difficult situation.
17:13The people are tired and hungry.
17:15We are suffering.
17:16We are not sleeping because of the rockets.
17:18You see how things are here.
17:21And was before the evacuation orders.
17:22A special forces team entered the city of Kanyunis, killing a man and child and arresting a woman with small children.
17:28They opened the gates of hell in Kanyunis.
17:31Israeli planes carry out dozens of raids and airstrikes, resulting in the deaths of more civilians
17:36and the destruction of medical supplies in the NASA medical complex.
17:41We were sleeping in a room when suddenly explosions were heard nearby.
17:45My brother and I went out to see what was happening.
17:47We saw people with shields and sticks.
17:49We went upstairs and hid.
17:50And then we heard the sounds of gunfire, explosions and shelling.
17:54The occupiers continue to bomb this hospital and now we are talking about the only hospital in the southern part of the region.
18:04Between the attacks, the names of new victims emerge, including women and children.
18:08And for many, they become mere numbers in statistics.
18:12Others leave their destroyed homes and go into tents.
18:15But even the tents do not protect them from the shelling.
18:17So they end up in the open.
18:19Gaza citizens confirmed that Israeli policies from systematic destruction and random killings to starvation
18:26and the destruction of state institutions reveal a single goal on Tel Aviv's list of priorities,
18:32making the Gaza Strip uninhabitable for any form of life.
18:36This forces those who remain on this land to consider emigration as an acceptable option.
18:41Now, former U.S. President Joe Biden has revealed that he has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of cancer.
18:51And while Donald Trump expressed sympathy, he also pointed out the physical and mental decline of his predecessor was clear,
18:59even while he was still in the Oval Office.
19:01Actually, I'm surprised that it wasn't, you know, the public wasn't notified a long time ago,
19:09because to get to stage nine, that's a long time.
19:11I think, frankly, anybody running for president should act, you know, take a cognitive test.
19:16They say it's unconstitutional.
19:17But I would say in that particular case, having a cognitive test wouldn't be so bad.
19:22Well, Donald Trump is not the only one questioning Biden's cognitive decline.
19:27CNN host Jake Tapper, once a fierce supporter of the former president, has completely changed his tune.
19:35In a new bombshell book, he calls out an establishment cover-up of just what was happening in the White House.
19:42Artie's donor quarter has been delving deeper into that story.
19:47Explosive, superb, a Shakespearean drama on steroids.
19:51The mainstream media is absolutely fangirling over a new book by CNN talking head Jake Tapper.
19:57Provocatively titled, Original Sin.
20:00It puts the decision to run a mentally declining Joe Biden for a second term on the chopping block,
20:06despite the fact that Tapper himself had smeared the former president's critics all along the way.
20:12How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that?
20:16It's very clearly a cognitive decline.
20:19That's what I'm referring to.
20:20It makes me uncomfortable.
20:21You have no...
20:23You have...
20:23I can't...
20:24It's so amazing.
20:25It's so amazing.
20:26Between 2022 and 2024, Tapper was on a CNN crusade to defend Biden from those who dared to raise questions about his obviously declining mental health.
20:36And the worst it got, the harder it became to say that the sky wasn't blue.
20:41Yet Tapper seems to think his previously undying loyalty to Biden is perfectly qualifiable.
20:46Some of the criticism is fair, to be honest, of me, certainly I'm not going to speak for anybody else.
20:53But knowing then what I know now, I look back at my coverage during the Biden years, and I did cover some of these issues, but not enough.
21:02I look back on it with humility.
21:06Look, what we learned through our reporting is that starting in around 2019, 2020, there were two Bidens.
21:14There was a Biden that was perfectly workable, serviceable, seemed fine.
21:18And then there was a non-functioning one that couldn't come up with names of top aides, that would lose his train of thought to an alarming degree.
21:25And that non-functioning Biden reared his head increasingly over and over.
21:31It really seemed to exacerbate and get much worse in 2023.
21:35Two Bidens, sure.
21:37One of them was the Joe that the Democrats had imagined for themselves.
21:41Does the president have the stamina, physically and mentally, do you think, to continue on even after 2024?
21:47Don, you're asking me this question.
21:49Oh, my gosh.
21:50He's the president of the United States.
21:52You know, he, I can't even keep up with him.
21:55The most difficult part about a meeting with President Biden is preparing for it because he is sharp, intensely probing and detail-oriented and focused.
22:07And I'm telling you, this guy's tough.
22:09He's smart.
22:10He's on his game.
22:11Joe Biden has vision.
22:12He has knowledge.
22:14He has a strategic thinker.
22:16This is a very sharp president.
22:20He is engaging.
22:20He is capable.
22:22He has an incredible record as president.
22:24He is as sharp as ever, as I have known him to be in my engagement and my experience with him.
22:30Then there was the other Biden that most people remember, the real Biden.
22:35You know, the guy that made absolutely no sense half the time.
22:38If you turn on the TV, look at the ads.
22:40When's the last time you saw biracial couples on TV?
22:43When's the last time you saw the way, I mean, people are selling products.
22:47They do ads to sell products.
22:49And they sell products when people, they appeal to people.
22:52This generation is going to change everything.
22:54We just got to make sure we don't give up.
22:57There's an ability for us to do everything from increase the access to education, health care.
23:04Look what we did in health care.
23:05Take a break.
23:06And then we'll talk a little bit more.
23:07We have some biracial commercials we need to show.
23:12We'll be back with President Biden.
23:14Today we remember and we reaffirm freedom is worth the sacrifice.
23:21Democracy is not perfect.
23:24It's never been good, perfect.
23:26But it's worth fighting for.
23:29If necessary, worth dying for.
23:33It's more than just our former government.
23:35It's part of the very soul of America.
23:40And now I want to hand it over to the president of Ukraine, who has as much courage as he has determination.
23:47Ladies and gentlemen, President Putin.
23:50President Putin.
23:51You can beat President Putin.
23:53President Zelensky.
23:55I'm so focused on beating Putin, we got to worry about it.
23:58Anyway, Mr. President.
24:00I'm better.
24:01You are a hell of a better.
24:02And Homeland Security Secretary.
24:07I'm not sure I'm going to do shit all the way.
24:09But all kidding aside, Secretary Maruakos.
24:13I don't know what that was.
24:14And I'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more Border Patrol and more asylum officers.
24:26President Trump.
24:27I really don't know what he said at the end of this.
24:29And I don't think he knows what he said either.
24:31Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID.
24:41Excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with.
24:45Look, if we finally beat Medicare.
24:52Thank you, President Biden.
24:53President Trump.
24:55Well, he's right.
24:56He did beat Medicare.
24:57He beat it to death.
24:58And he's destroying Medicare.
24:59And they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people down the party in the ticket.
25:06If you're concerned about Joe Biden's age, you probably don't know Joe Biden.
25:10Biden is actually in good shape.
25:13And now they're in a, I won't say a full-fledged panic, but it's getting there's a full-on panic tonight.
25:19Right.
25:19Mentally, he's quite acute.
25:20Any aid who engages with him or reporters, we can see this.
25:24The gears of his mind are working.
25:26The right-wing media has so fixated on Biden and Biden purportedly having cognitive issues.
25:32It's not just making an issue of Biden's age.
25:34It's lying.
25:35It's saying he's senile.
25:36It's saying he's demented.
25:37Even at the Democratic primary debates, Biden contradicted himself constantly.
25:42He just couldn't remember the points he was making just two minutes ago.
25:46You just said two minutes ago that they would have to buy in.
25:48You said they would have to buy in.
25:50Your grandmother would not have to buy in.
25:51If she qualifies for Medicaid, she'd automatically be informed.
25:55Are you forgetting already what you said just two minutes ago?
25:59I mean, I can't believe.
26:00Biden's strange behavior was something you would have had to have been blind to miss,
26:04even when it comes to CNN anchors.
26:07Every single person who saw Joe Biden knew that he wasn't capable of doing the job.
26:12And for three years, they said nothing until he became political dead weight.
26:16Joe Biden is like, he's like really like progressed.
26:33So how did one of America's so-called most respected journalists fail to make such a glaring observation,
26:39especially when Tapper was conducting over 200 interviews for his book with Democrats
26:44who knew that Biden was losing his marbles
26:47at the same time as he was calling publicly the idea ridiculous.
26:51Perhaps the CNN mouthpiece realized he placed all his bets on the wrong electoral horse.
26:57And now he's trying to hedge his bets and make a buck by acting like nothing happened.
27:01But look, John, I take also issue with the term bombshell here
27:05because this is a bombshell to people who didn't have eyesight, hearing, sobriety and sanity.
27:11And the thing is that, you know, overall, it is just patently insulting
27:15that Jake Tapper is trying to rewrite history while lining his own pockets in the process.
27:20He was very much a part of the media, Kamal, who defended Biden.
27:23He blamed a stutter.
27:25He called Laura Trump a conspiracy theorist when she appeared on his show
27:28for simply pointing out the obvious that Joe Biden had no business
27:31being anywhere near the Oval Office years ago.
27:34But now that Joe Biden is expendable in the eyes of Democrats
27:37and, you know, the books are going to come, the leaks are going to come.
27:40It's all a CYA for everybody involved.
27:43I'm not calling brave here.
27:44I'm calling, you know what, this is apparent
27:46and now people are trying to profit off of it.
27:48Blind, opportunistic, or just downright dumb.
27:51Why Tapper didn't jump off the Joe Biden bandwagon earlier,
27:55we can't say for sure.
27:56But it definitely looks just a little hypocritical.