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Secretary Marco Rubio Repeatedly Interrupted By Protesters While Giving His Opening Statement
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5/20/2025
Secretary Marco Rubio was repeatedly interrupted by protesters on Tuesday while delivering his opening remarks.
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Thank you. It's an honor to be here on behalf of the National Archives and in
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addition to... We don't have time for you to listen. Okay well we'll focus on state
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today. I appreciate the opportunity to speak to you today. You know when I came
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here four months ago I told you that what I wanted was a State Department that
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was at the heart and soul of American foreign policy. That it was the single
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biggest driver both of action but also of ideas and we're well on our way to
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achieving that. And the way we've... I'll talk about some of the individual things
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we've accomplished during that time. But first let me explain sort of some of the
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processes by which we seek to arrive at it. The first is a reorganization of the
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way the State Department functions. And we have sort of previewed that with a
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committee and many of the individual members. Obviously we'll have to come...
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We've taken input and are taking input now through the notice process and then
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we'll come back to you with a formal congressional notification once. But we
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are taking a lot of the input both provided by individual members and your
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staff but also from inside the building. But if I could simplify the goal is this
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and that is...
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The goal... The goal is to drive power and action in our agency to the regional
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bureaus and to our embassies. On everything we do we want our foreign
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policy to be holistic. So for example we recognize that the set of factors both in
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diplomacy and foreign aid in Guatemala or in Trinidad or in Jamaica are going to look
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different than they may somewhere in Africa, somewhere in the Indo-Pacific region. And we
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want those decisions and the influence over those decisions to be made to be driven to the regional
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bureaus. And so what we've done is we've taken a lot of the functional bureaus and functional
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processes and moved them under the purview of the regional bureaus and the career individuals that
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serve there and ultimately down to the embassy. One of our first tests, Senator Shaheen, is going
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to be in Syria. We don't have an embassy in Syria. It's operating out of Turkey. But we need to help
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them. We want to help that government succeed because the alternative is full-scale civil war
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and chaos, which would, of course, destabilize the entire region. And we are going to allow our people
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on the ground, both our embassy personnel at the Damascus embassy located in Turkey, and for the
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short period of time, at least in the interim, our ambassador in Turkey, to work with local officials
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there to make determinations about what kind of aid they need. Is it humanitarian? Is it improving law
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enforcement or governance functions? We think it's going to be the first test of this new model, but
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I strongly believe that our decisions and the power to drive decisions and the decisions
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and the inputs that we're taking have to be driven in many cases from the bottom up, not
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from the top down, and focused on the fact that there is unique sets of factors in individual
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parts of the world that require different priorities and attention. And ultimately, foreign policy,
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mature foreign policy, requires a balancing of interests. That's just a fact. Okay? Our human
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rights agenda is going to look different in certain parts of the world than it will in others.
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That doesn't mean that we, as a people, have abandoned it. That means that in a world where
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you need to conduct real foreign policy in a mature and structured way, there are ways
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you're going to have to balance all these-
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Stop it now! Stop it now! There is a bloodbath! There is a bloodbath going on! Stop it now!
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Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it!
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Actually, Senator Rubio, we're making progress. There's protests in English now, so-
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Oh, remember that? Yeah.
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Yeah, remember last time.
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So, we have to understand, and that's why we think it's so important that our regional
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bureaus be at the core and at the heart of everything we do. And so we feel good about
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that part of it. By the same token, I think critical to this are some of the reforms we're
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trying to make to foreign aid. And I said, when I appeared before this committee, everything
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we do has to make us stronger, safer, or more prosperous. So we've undertaken a review of our foreign aid.
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And the reality is that there are many of these programs, they may have- some are good programs.
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Some make all the sense in the world, and we wanted to pursue those programs.
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Go ahead.
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Some of these programs make all the sense in the world, but frankly, on the priority scale,
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perhaps other programs are more important. Others, frankly, made no sense at all. And we can talk about
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some of those programs today. We funded things around the world that made absolutely no sense.
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I will say this. Even with the reforms we put in place, and what we're suggesting is changes
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to our foreign aid, we still will provide more foreign aid, more humanitarian support,
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than the next ten countries combined. Than the entire OECD, and far more than China. China doesn't
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do humanitarian aid. China does predatory lending. That's what Belt and Road Initiative is. That's
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what all of their aid- they have no zero record of doing humanitarian aid in the world. And frankly,
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they don't know how to do it. They have no interest in doing it. What they're very good at is going
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into some country, making you a loan, and then holding that debt over your head. And that's
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what they continue to do. And by the way, you have to hire a Chinese company to do it. So,
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I don't agree with this assessment that there's no evidence whatsoever that China has either the
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capacity or the will to replace the U.S. in humanitarian assistance, in food deliveries,
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or in developmental assistance for that matter. We provide development assistance. They provide debt
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traps. And that's a point over and over again around the world that we've made, and we've found
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receptive audiences to it. Now look, any time you undertake reforms of this magnitude that needed
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to be made, you're going to have hiccups and you're also going to have controversy. But these reforms
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had to happen. At USAID, 12 cents of every dollar was reaching the recipient. That means that in order
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for us to get, you know, aid to somebody, we had to spend all this other money supporting this
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foreign aid industrial complex. We're going to find more efficient ways to deliver aid to people
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directly, and it's going to be directed by our regional bureaus, and it's going to sponsor programs
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that make a difference, and it's going to be part of a holistic approach to our foreign policy.
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And I look forward to engaging with this committee and the appropriators as well,
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and ensuring that we get to the right place on that. My last point I would make, and this is
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something I am very proud of. I believe, and I'm not besmirching anyone else, but I believe that the
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approach we have taken at the State Department, and frankly at USAID, but at State Department,
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to move forward reforms that involved intake from all of our partners that required input from people
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within the building. Many of the reforms we've made were driven by people inside the building,
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many of whom have worked there for 20 or 30 years. And now we are engaged with Congress, both in the
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House and Senate, in a comment period where we're taking many of your comments and are making changes
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to our organizational proposals that we look forward to bringing back to you with an official congressional
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notification. And even after that, there'll be an opportunity to move forward. But the State
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Department had to change. I'm telling you, it was no longer at the center of American foreign policy. It had
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often been replaced by the National Security Council or by some other agency of government,
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when in fact we have these highly talented people, many of whom have served in multiple posts around
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the world and have a holistic view of how foreign policy needs to be conducted, that were being edged
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out. Because you know what? When I get a decision memo early on at the State Department and they would
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hand me these memos, there were 40 boxes on this piece of paper. That means 40 people had to check off,
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yes, okay, before it even got to me. That's ridiculous. That takes too long. That's why people said,
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don't use State Department. They take too long and it's too cumbersome. And any one of those little
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boxes didn't get checked, the memo didn't move up the chain. That can't continue. We can't move at
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that pace in this world. Events happen quickly and we have to be able to move at the pace of relevance.
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And so I hope to work with you in a productive way to make that possible. You're not going to like
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all the changes, but I want you to know what the intent of the changes are. It is not to dismantle
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American foreign policy and it is not to withdraw us from the world. Because I just hit 18 countries in 18
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weeks. That doesn't sound like much of a withdrawal. And I see some of these foreign ministers,
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including individuals from Ukraine, more than I've seen my own children. And I talk to them at
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least three times a week. We are engaged in the world, but we're going to be engaged in a world
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that makes sense and that's smart. And that isn't about saving money. It is about ensuring that we
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are delivering to our people what they deserve, a foreign policy that makes America stronger,
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safer, and more prosperous. Thank you.
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