Former Conservative Party Chairman Sir Jake Berry demanded an apology from commentator Benjamin Butterworth as the pair descended into a bitter row over Brexit.Delivering their verdicts on Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer's 'reset' deal with the EU, Butterworth took aim at the previous Conservative Government's agreement and claimed that the numbers when it comes to fishing rights "are the same".FULL STORY HERE.
00:02Sir Jake, when he takes a breath, will remember that the numbers that are going to go forward
00:06for the next 12 years of how much EU can fish in our waters is just the same as it was under
00:11Boris Johnson's deal.
00:12The difference is that it would have come up for a renewal every 12 months.
00:14Which would have expired in a matter of months.
00:16This is a transition progression.
00:18And let's look at the reality.
00:19Hang on, before you move on and just shrug that off, which would have expired in a matter
00:22of months?
00:22Yes, and have to renegotiate it.
00:24Sir, as the only person sat round this sofa who actually negotiated Britain's Brexit
00:31deal, I was in the Cabinet at the time, that was a high price that we paid as a transition
00:37period which would see Britain get its Brexit deal through.
00:42This has now been given away for 12 years.
00:44He's got no mandate to do that.
00:4612 years.
00:47That's longer than even Tony Blair was Prime Minister of a country.
00:50It's three parliaments.
00:51It's three parliaments.
00:52Sorry, Benjamin, continue your point.
00:54Well, first of all, the Boris Johnson deal put a border down the North Sea and handed
00:59Northern Ireland to the EU.
01:00So I don't think that's less of a concession.
01:02The Theresa May deal collapsed a government which caused years of turmoil.
01:06Nearly let Jeremy Corbyn become Prime Minister.
01:08I don't think that was an acceptable concession.
01:10Now, actually, 70% of our fish is sold into the EU.
01:13And what these changes do is make that easier for them to sell their produce.
01:17And what we've got is so much less red tape.
01:19Conservatives should appreciate this, that what businesses have been saying for years,
01:23small businesses and big ones, is that the amount of red tape and the amount that that slows down getting products across the border,
01:30if they can at all, has cost billions.
01:31Why are the EU so vindictive to include all that risk?
01:33Because we left the EU and put up loads of barriers.
01:35No, the EU put up loads of barriers.
01:37Well, I mean, that's their right to do because we were outside their economic agreements.
01:42And so the fact is that, you know, the fishing industry brings in about, makes about £3 billion a year.
01:48This will make triple that for the UK economy.
01:51And when you've got companies like Marks and Spencer that had to cease trading in France because it couldn't get things across the border fast enough,
01:57how do we deal with the fishing industry then?
02:01Because they're getting shafted.
02:03There'll be no one to replace them.
02:04It will die, just like farming will die.
02:06I mean, you said it in your intro, you know, the older generation now, you know, they will die.
02:11Maybe their sons and daughters may not go into it because of this.
02:15But, you know, the thing is, I don't get Starmer, you know.
02:19You know, it's like he wants to be chucked out of power.
02:22You know, today he just gave reform a standing start to win the next election.
02:26Faraj has already said, you know, I will reverse all of this if you make me prime minister.
02:31I will kick it all out, make me PM.
02:34And people, I mean, I've been reading online today, you know, families who have voted Tory for years have just said, that's it now.
02:40We're going for reform.
02:41Not going wrong because the Tories are a busted flush as well.
02:44So people are now going to vote for reform.
02:46You're the people that wanted no deal at all.
02:49That would have collapsed the UK economy.
02:51But, Benjamin, Benjamin, Benjamin, so this is why, we're using this.
02:57If Brexit was so good, then why are food prices up?
03:00Why is immigration up?
03:01Why is energy prices up?
03:03Why are their economies in the toilet?
03:05Yeah, I mean, you're going to, you know, let me answer, you've asked me seriously, food prices are up.
03:09Well, as far as I'm aware, France, Germany, Italy and Portugal haven't left the European Union.
03:14And their food prices, their food prices are up more than ours.
03:17As far as I'm aware, France, Germany, Portugal haven't left the European Union.
03:20They're suffering with migration in the same way.
03:22But our prices have gone up.
03:23They've got, no, no.
03:25You're completely wrong.
03:26Prices have gone up across the European Union because of COVID.
03:31It's nothing to do.
03:32You know, the correlation between food prices going up is not the same thing as causation.
03:38Food prices have gone up because of Ukraine.
03:40And actually, do you know, you say big business welcomes this.
03:44Of course they do.
03:45Big business always welcomes uncontrolled migration to the country because it's a lot cheaper to give an immigrant a job than it is to train a British person.
03:54You're saying those companies that can no longer sell British products to the EU, they should be happy with that phenomenon.
03:58What Starmer has with this, and he has no mandate to do it, is that he entered the negotiations saying, whatever you say, I won't walk away from the table.
04:07At least with the no-deal Brexit, you say, oh, you wanted a no-deal Brexit.
04:11No, we didn't want a no-deal Brexit.
04:13But we were prepared to hold it over the head of the European Union to get the right deal for the British people.
04:18Starmer has just surrendered.
04:20The deal we've got on fish is the exact same number that Sir Jake's government got.
04:24For 12 years.
04:26This is a betrayal of democracy.
04:30People voted to leave the European Union and now we're going to be going back.
04:34Benjamin, Labour got a lower vote share than Corbyn.
04:37It was a loveless landslide, as it's been described.
04:40Comparing that to 17.4 million people who voted leave.
04:43The biggest, the biggest democratic vote in the history of this country, which has never, even by your government, Sir Jake, I'll say that, which has never been carried out because there's been not a genuine Brexiteer anywhere near government or in Parliament.
04:55We've never had a majority leave Parliament since Brexit.
04:58You had Liz Truss.
04:59Liz Truss?
05:00Yeah.
05:00You had Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak, OK?
05:03And she was shafted by the establishment.
05:06Two ardent Brexiteers and one person who actually voted for Brexit.
05:08So actually, that is a really good point.
05:10I mean, this project, this project to force Britain back into the EU is bigger, is bigger.
05:16I want to hear from Sir Jake.
05:18Ben, I think you should apologise for interrupting me, but let's not, let's not make a point of it.
05:22But actually, this project to force Britain back into the EU is actually bigger than Keir Starmer.
05:27He's the useful idiot who's done the establishment's work for him.
05:30But never forget that London, North London, the establishment don't like the fact that people across Britain in coastal communities who'll be decimated like Blackpool and other coastal communities had the pluck to stand up for their nation.
