- 5/17/2025
On this powerful episode of Going Underground, host Afshin Rattansi sits down with George Papadopoulos, former Foreign Policy Advisor to Donald Trump and author of Deep State Target.
Papadopoulos reveals the major diplomatic gains from Trump’s landmark Middle East trip, discusses the neoconservative push for war with Iran, and gives insight into Trump’s efforts to end the Russia-NATO proxy war in Ukraine.
He also breaks down the deep state sabotage campaign waged against Trump and his allies since 2016, the international attempts to entrap his circle, and the continuing threats that could impact the 2024 election landscape.
A must-watch for anyone interested in U.S. foreign policy, intelligence warfare, and global power dynamics.
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Papadopoulos reveals the major diplomatic gains from Trump’s landmark Middle East trip, discusses the neoconservative push for war with Iran, and gives insight into Trump’s efforts to end the Russia-NATO proxy war in Ukraine.
He also breaks down the deep state sabotage campaign waged against Trump and his allies since 2016, the international attempts to entrap his circle, and the continuing threats that could impact the 2024 election landscape.
A must-watch for anyone interested in U.S. foreign policy, intelligence warfare, and global power dynamics.
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01:00I'm Afshin Ritansi and welcome to Going Underground Broadcasting all around the world from the heart of the Middle East in the UAE where US President Trump visited this week as part of his first international tour of his second term.
01:22That was just before today's Arab League summit in Baghdad, Iraq, infamously destroyed on fake evidence by NATO nations.
01:27In 2003 and today where the Gaza Holocaust is being discussed.
01:31So how come Trump has the freedom to pursue foreign policy goals he couldn't in his first term?
01:37He's managed to avoid Israel, make deals with Hamas and Yemen, China and Iran and attempt to wind back the US proxy war on Russia through Ukraine that arguably brought the world to the brink of nuclear annihilation under genocide Joe.
01:50Even he though hasn't been able to pardon Julian Assange of WikiLeaks.
01:53One reason Trump has had authority though is the destruction of the Russia hoax narrative that moved like a hurricane to derail his first term.
02:02The conspiracy of Crossfire Hurricane has been revealed by a best-selling book, Deep State Target, How I Got Caught in the Crosshairs of the Plot to Bring Down President Trump.
02:11And in recent weeks the mask has fallen further thanks to Trump declassifying critical FBI files.
02:17Joining me now is the author of the book, former foreign policy advisor to President Trump, himself pardoned by President Trump, George Papadopoulos.
02:24He's in Miami, Florida.
02:26George, it's been way too long.
02:28I don't know, six years?
02:29Longer.
02:30And a lot of water flown under the, gone under the bridge since then.
02:35I bet before I get into that and the conspiracies, it's been a huge geopolitical seismic week here in Europe and in the Middle East.
02:43It's been NACMA week here in the Middle East.
02:46I mean, did you fear for Trump on this visit?
02:49We've seen assassination attempts in the past.
02:52He's avoiding Israel.
02:55Despite Miriam Adelson's money, he's not gone to Israel.
02:58He says he's open to negotiations with all these people that Israel doesn't want him to talk to.
03:04Well, thank you very much to be back with you.
03:06Look, I was recently actually at Mar-a-Lago just a couple of weeks ago where the president was at the same dinner that I attended.
03:15And the security has completely been ramped up compared to what it was last year or even two years ago.
03:21So clearly, the threats on the president's life have been responded to in an adequate fashion by the security services, by the Secret Service and by probably the FBI.
03:33So I didn't think that the president would have a danger episode during his trip to the Middle East.
03:40But you never know.
03:41Of course, the president is going against many globalist agendas or many influential individuals on the left in the United States and around the world who are basically being decimated politically, economically.
03:55And their own pocketbooks are being affected by Trump's policies.
03:58So you never know. Regarding the current trip that the president had in the Middle East, I thought it was an absolute slam dunk.
04:06It epitomized what America first really means, both domestically and on a global stage.
04:12When I brokered President Trump's first ever meeting with a foreign head of state, LCC of Egypt, during the campaign in 2016, I didn't broker this meeting because of LCC's star sparkling human rights record.
04:25But because I knew a leader like LCC in Egypt and those type of leaders in the Middle East who were forward looking, wanted to make deals with the United States, would behoove you in U.S. interest.
04:36That's exactly what I think the United States did during this trip to the GCC.
04:42The United States viewed its partners in the GCC as equals, not as vassal states.
04:47They responded with robust arms deals and foreign direct investment pledges.
04:52And this is incredibly important as the United States seeks to wean off of Chinese investment into the United States market.
04:58Yeah, I don't think we need to pay much attention to the kind of I don't call them left.
05:04Actually, I call them neocon, neoliberal.
05:07Actually, he said neoconservative when he met MBS in Saudi Arabia.
05:13So he's called them out as well, those promoting war.
05:16I mean, we'll remind the audience about the conspiracy against you and Donald Trump in a bit.
05:21But, I mean, you were identified, you identified a sting against you in Israel.
05:28And I don't know whether some of the characters in your book, Deep State, from those years ago, they seem to have disappeared.
05:36Just tell us who Charles Towel is and what you say he tried to do as part of the conspiracy against Donald Trump and against the American people who wanted to elect Donald Trump.
05:51Every four years, the most highly anticipated and watched event around the entire world is not the World Cup.
05:57It's not the Super Bowl or the World Series.
05:59It's a U.S. presidential election season.
06:02There are vested interests both domestically and internationally in who ascends to the Oval Office.
06:07There were foreign governments working with the FBI and the CIA in a concerted effort to not only spy on the 2016 campaign, but to sabotage the presidency of Donald Trump during his first term.
06:23This has now been robustly reported.
06:25This is not innuendo.
06:26This is not conspiracy theory.
06:28Individuals like Matt Taibbi, Schellenberger in the New York Post have written about this in my book, Deep State Target.
06:34I highlight which foreign governments were involved, which characters were involved, what the motivations were.
06:39And this individual that you referenced, Charles Towel, was an individual who met with me in Israel under the auspice of some sort of energy business deal,
06:49which is what my former business was and now my current business is in Miami, and basically presented himself as some sort of Israeli businessman.
06:58He gave me $10,000 in cash.
07:01I returned it to my lawyer in Greece before I went back to the United States, and then I was met with 10 FBI agents looking for money in a briefcase.
07:08So what I'm trying to say in this episode is that this entire situation was premeditated by these governments with assets by various agencies that were set to entrap various associates of President Trump, not only myself.
07:23Of course, you have the infamous episode of Paul Manafort, General Flynn, Roger Stone.
07:27The president was ultimately targeted.
07:30We fought back.
07:31The truth came out.
07:32There were various investigations into this episode, which now there are new episodes, investigations ongoing under this Trump administration.
07:39I think we'll finally see some accountability.
07:41And that's perhaps why there's some light between President Trump and Netanyahu.
07:46Yeah, that's I mean, obviously, the Times of Israel in 2018 said,
07:50Tawel had a Tawel saying he was pro-Trump.
07:54Tawel said, oh, I support Trump and denied the money was part of a sting operation.
07:59But given the number of people you mentioned there, many of whom have been ongoing underground, Google's YouTube platform banned them.
08:07So they're on Rumble instead.
08:10It is interesting who those states were and whether Trump is aware of the forces that were ranged against him.
08:18Certainly.
08:19If you just look at the political environment in 2015, 2016, I was actually based in London from the first months.
08:26I was on the Trump campaign and after I worked for Dr. Ben Carson's presidential campaign as an advisor.
08:31Brexit was an important issue that affected the United Kingdom and the European Union.
08:38Candidate Trump was the only candidate that expounded upon sovereignty.
08:43First, the UK leaving the European Union and being pro-Brexit.
08:46That's exactly why I believe that this entire operation started in London and then metastasized involving other foreign governments, including potentially Italy, Ukraine, Israel.
08:58This has all been reported.
09:00So I think that was the motivation behind why these countries became involved in what they did,
09:06because they believed during the political environment in 2016 that Hillary Clinton would have been much more pro their interests.
09:13They failed, and now it's all being exposed.
09:17Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously happy to see you again on Going Underground after all these years,
09:20but I can't say we're that happy at the speed of justice.
09:26I mean, of course, it was amazing how they destroyed USAID, which is a kind of deep state project that has been all around the world.
09:35But just tell me where it's at, the level of the investigations since Kash Patel took over at the FBI, because we're getting certain leaks.
09:46Tell me about Aaron Zelensky, who prosecuted you and others close to Trump,
09:52and now a letter has appeared from a District of Columbia attorney, interim U.S. attorney, trying to get answers.
10:02I certainly think that the reason that people like Kash Patel and even Dan Bongino, who's a deputy director of the FBI,
10:11are in those positions is because they became infamous looking into parts of my story, Crossfire Hurricane,
10:18and this weaponized government's operation that we've been discussing here today.
10:25And I think these people have done their research.
10:27Kash Patel was once a research associate on Capitol Hill with Devin Nunes, who investigated Crossfire Hurricane.
10:34And now you have U.S. attorneys like Ed Martin, or he's now part of the weaponized government department at the Department of Justice,
10:42looking into what the Mueller team knew and when they forgot it, basically.
10:48They have now subpoenaed Aaron Zelensky, who was a prosecutor on the Mueller team.
10:52They're digging into what the Mueller team really was up to.
10:55Were they covering up illegal activity of the Comey regime?
10:59Were they up to something else?
11:00Were they up to illegal activity?
11:01We're going to get these answers one way or another, because this issue has never been resolved.
11:05And it upended the United States and the world for close to eight years, almost dismantled the presidency,
11:11and the president will not let this go unturned.
11:14I know you analyze the shifting sands here through your energy lens as an energy expert and commodities expert,
11:21but you don't see the perceived Iran threat as another made-up Israeli invention,
11:28because the people in this region, in Dubai, they want peace.
11:33So does MBS want peace, and so does Donald Trump, appearing to want peace.
11:37He did a peace deal with the Ansar Allah of Yemen, separately to Israel.
11:44Where can you see the forces in his cabinet, even?
11:49Mike Waltz, of course, he, some people say, demoted.
11:52Trump says, kind of promoted to the U.S. ambassadorship at the U.N.
11:57Are there these forces still in the Trump cabinet, unbeknownst to leading members of the Trump cabinet?
12:04If you have followed private citizen Trump from the 80s into the 90s,
12:10candidate Trump in the 2015-2016 campaign, him as a first-term president, and now a second-term president,
12:18when he says something, he does it.
12:20And he campaigned as a peacemaker, as somebody who would end the forever wars,
12:25repatriate industries back to the United States.
12:27Well, he started a war in Yemen, arguably, that had stopped.
12:30I don't think it was technically a war.
12:33I think there were strikes.
12:34Of course, there was calamity that occurred.
12:37Civilians died.
12:39Those hostilities have ended in actually quite a short time.
12:42I think there's been a ceasefire agreement.
12:45I don't think there will be a resumption of desultory strikes or strikes whatsoever on Yemen,
12:51given the current situation.
12:52That is that there should be peace in the Middle East.
12:55You do have Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the Gulf seeking some sort of detente, at least with Iran.
13:00I think that's a very good, good idea.
13:03And quite frankly, war does not serve anyone's interests, including the United States or Iran or the Middle East.
13:09I think the United States right now under President Trump is focused on two fronts.
13:13That is the Western Hemisphere.
13:14This is something that I've argued that the Trump Doctrine, a sort of Monroe Doctrine 2.0,
13:20is where Donald Trump's foreign policy priority is.
13:23And dealing with China at an economic and military point of view, the United States being dragged into yet another war,
13:30especially with Iran, does not serve either of those interests.
13:33I think that's why the president is open to deal with Iran.
13:36They have direct talks with Iran.
13:38And I do believe at the end of the day, there won't be a strike on Iran.
13:42And that happens whilst Israel, with all its powerful money, I mean, he doesn't need the money from Miriam Adelson, arguably.
13:53And he doesn't need to do necessarily what Netanyahu tells him to.
13:58But yet he could just have made the phone call to create a Gaza ceasefire, couldn't he?
14:04Which he did around the time of the inauguration.
14:07Hopefully, by the time this is being broadcast, there may well be peace, some kind of organized peace.
14:12But it's clear that Netanyahu didn't want peace in Gaza.
14:15I certainly think that President Trump views Israel as an ally.
14:19I think his relationship with Netanyahu is cooling.
14:21I think that's quite obvious.
14:23I think there is now some sort of light between the United States strategic and foreign policy goals in the Middle East
14:29and the greater Eastern Mediterranean vis-a-vis Israel.
14:32And that's quite evident for the world to see.
14:35I think that the Gaza situation really upsets and upended potentially the United States strategic partnerships
14:43that it does have, not only with the Gulf states, but also with Egypt and with other Middle Eastern countries, even Turkey.
14:51And I think moving forward, given that the United States is a superpower, it has various interests around the world,
14:56while Israeli interests are primarily myopic, if you will, in the Middle East,
15:01that the United States and Israel won't always see eye to eye.
15:05But that's not necessarily a bad thing.
15:07It just means that the United States will pursue its interests.
15:10And those interests right now are repatriating industries to the United States,
15:14bolstering the United States economy, ending forever wars, and preserving stability in the Middle East.
15:20And that's exactly what President Trump is doing.
15:22George Papadopoulos, I'll stop you there.
15:24More from the former advisor to President Trump after this break.
15:39Welcome back to Going Underground.
15:40I'm still here with the former foreign policy advisor to President Trump
15:43and best-selling author of Deep State Target, George Papadopoulos.
15:46George, you were talking about Trump's priorities and the intent to create peace.
15:52I mean, would you think that the greatest facilitator of BRICS and the diminution of American power
15:57was that Biden proxy war on Russia through Ukraine?
16:02How catastrophic has it been for United States power?
16:06Because you were talking about the need for a Monroe II doctrine.
16:09I know Lula is not going to like that, who's been on this show, President Lula of Brazil.
16:13But I mean, what impact did the Biden proxy war have on U.S. power in your hemisphere?
16:18This is certainly something that I've argued for many months,
16:22including shortly after the war between Russia and Ukraine started,
16:25that sanctions or punitive sanctions will do nothing more than two things.
16:30They will bring Russia into China's orbit,
16:33and they will result in Russia and other countries seeking to redesign
16:38the global financial, trade, and security architecture.
16:42Because if a Western country or a Western alliance system can freeze billions of dollars in assets
16:50the way that the European Union and the United States has done to Russia
16:53based on a war that they don't approve of,
16:57then other countries will say they can do this to me.
17:00And that's exactly what lesson has been taught here based on the war between Russia and Ukraine
17:05and the faulty U.S. foreign policy and the billions of dollars in taxpayer money
17:10that has been sent to this endless war.
17:12That Russia is a robust economy.
17:15It's a resilient economy.
17:16It is now a fortress economy.
17:18It has grown its ties from a security and energy and economic perspective with China.
17:24And probably most importantly than all,
17:27the global South has looked at the situation and said,
17:30we don't want to be Russia 2.0.
17:31We should seek to examine alternatives to the Western-based financial system.
17:37And that's what BRICS was all about.
17:39If you look when President Trump ascended to the Oval Office,
17:42one of his first posts on Truth Social was,
17:45if any country seeks to trade other than in U.S. dollars or to affect the U.S. dollar,
17:50they will basically be sanctioned.
17:52Now, why did President Trump say that?
17:53Because he understood that the United States reserve currency, the dollar,
17:58was under direct threat from the faulty foreign policy of the Biden administration.
18:02That is why I think more than ever that the United States has sought an end to this war
18:07to bring Russia back into a Western orbit of some nature
18:12and to basically sever the relationship between Russia and China and to slow down Russia.
18:18I think it's a bit too late for that.
18:19A bit too late for severing that relationship,
18:21the reverse Nixon or reverse Kissinger, as they say.
18:25But, I mean, if that is the aim, there are clearly forces against that.
18:30I mean, what did you think of the appointment of Marco Rubio as Secretary of State?
18:35Because we know that, of course, I suppose sharing your opinions there is not only President Trump,
18:42there's J.D. Vance, there's Torsey Gabbard, there's Pete Hexer.
18:45You know, of course, there's Scott Bessant, there's Steve Witkoff, notably.
18:50But, you know, there was Mike Waltz, there was Rubio, who has always supported Joe Biden's foreign policies.
19:00And he's the Secretary of State.
19:02He's the one going to Turkey to talk with Zelensky and Russian delegates.
19:08I think Secretary of State Marco Rubio is a malleable character,
19:12somebody who will represent the President of the United States.
19:18If he was part of an administration that was more neoconservative,
19:21you would see him more of a neoconservative, having a more of a neoconservative approach.
19:26He is now part of a very peace-oriented, business-oriented administration,
19:30and he is reflecting those principles.
19:33I think other officials, like you referenced, Mike Waltz, some of these others,
19:36that were more hawkish in terms of foreign policy in Russia, they've been sidelined.
19:42You have Keith Kellogg, General Kellogg, who's also somewhat been sidelined.
19:48He goes on Fox News.
19:49He has this very hawkish approach to Russia.
19:52Those people, I don't think, have the influence of, of course, the President as commander-in-chief,
19:58and Secretary of State, and now National Security Advisor Marco Rubio,
20:01who is essentially reflecting the policies of President Trump as his paragon.
20:06So the people who have actually sought to overstep their authority or their boundaries have been demoted.
20:12Those that reflect the President's will and the American people's will have been elevated,
20:16and I think that's a tale of two signs with Waltz and Rubio.
20:21Yeah, that Cornflake descendant general who was in Iraq seems to have gone a little bit quiet.
20:27But actually, that, come to think of it, given Rubio, of course, was a senator,
20:30how many people are serving in Congress right now who unwittingly went along with the crossfire hurricane,
20:37remind us what that was, and the conspiracy against Trump's 2016 presidency?
20:43Because they must all be serving, and they're all going to be caught up,
20:46because didn't they have a duty to the Constitution and the Republic to explain to the American people
20:54that there were lies being spread by the Secret Services against a sitting president?
20:59Yeah.
21:00You know, it's one thing for lies to be propagated by the Hillary Clinton campaign or even high-profile
21:07Democrats, but it becomes an illegal matter if people lie under oath, if they testify with faulty
21:13evidence, if they shred the Constitution, if they spy illegally.
21:17And what was really going on is that the FBI, with the Secret Services, including the CIA,
21:22and this has all been robustly reported, was basically using Congress and the media as the
21:29mouthpiece to spread the lies and the disinformation all the way from the Christopher Steele dossier
21:33through the Mueller appointment and Comey acting as the sanctimonious character who was there to
21:40prevent so-called Russian interference.
21:42That all failed.
21:43People at the FBI, including Peter Strzok's boss, Charles McGonigal, is currently sentenced to prison.
21:49He's serving a six-year prison sentence.
21:51The head of the FBI's legal department, Kevin Clinesmith, was convicted of a felony for altering
21:56documents.
21:57The FBI's approval rating is at a record low.
21:59Congress's approval rating is at a record low, especially the Democrat side.
22:03And I think this really all begins based on their behavior during Crossfire Hurricane.
22:09So this is why it's so important and why I think the president has put the type of team he has
22:14together, especially at the FBI and the Department of Justice, to once and for all present the truth
22:20to the American people and hold these characters accountable, whether they were in Congress
22:24or in the intelligence services.
22:25Okay, but Christopher Steele was on Piers Morgan's podcast the other day.
22:32Robert Mueller, you know, why are these people still around, I'm really asking you, George?
22:40Because it's been a while.
22:41The president in a year's time will be approaching midterms.
22:46We know where power starts to drain away from the White House.
22:49Why are none of these people being brought to book now?
22:53I think millions of people are asking the same exact question, likely the president himself.
23:00I think there is a process.
23:01I think people like Attorney General Pam Bondi, FBI Director Patel, and Deputy Director Bongino
23:07have come out publicly and said there is a process to this situation.
23:11We are seeking testimony.
23:13I think there has been a grand jury.
23:14There has been a report that Jim Comey is under criminal investigation by the acting
23:19FBI Director Cash Patel.
23:21So there is momentum.
23:23There is a process.
23:24Things are moving ahead.
23:26But these things do take time.
23:28The president has been in office just over 110 days or so.
23:32And I think based on the characters that he has put in these positions of power, that
23:36they're not there to simply be symbolic, but they're to have action.
23:40And I think we will have those actions and people will be prosecuted.
23:44They will be held accountable.
23:45And instead of the Republicans losing the midterms like they did because of Mueller in the first
23:51term, they will win it based on this information that will come out during Trump's second term.
23:56Ah, so that's the strategy.
23:58I'm still awaiting Pam Bondi Attorney General's release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, frankly.
24:03And since that's probably about Israel, I might as well ask you.
24:08I mean, we were talking about the Israeli alleged, what you allege is a sting operation.
24:13What about these other shady characters in Deep State Target?
24:16Where is Joseph Mifsud, who I think your wife said there was something spotted about him in
24:242019 in Rome?
24:26Azra Turk.
24:28We're talking about Charles Tower.
24:29Where's Joseph Mifsud?
24:31Explain who he is so that if anyone has seen him, maybe we can find out where he is.
24:36Joseph Mifsud is at the epicenter of at least four different investigations from Crossfire
24:43Hurricane, Robert Mueller's investigation, AG, Inspector General Horowitz's investigation,
24:50and ultimately Special Counsel John Durham's investigation.
24:53This was a person who was connected to me in Rome from a think tank company I was working
24:59at in London that I later learned was connected to various MI6 officials, British intelligence
25:05officials and the FBI.
25:07I met with him in Rome under the auspices that this was some sort of professor that would
25:12help me network with countries that I did not have connections in, including Russia and
25:16others.
25:17And later, he tells me unsolicited that the Russians have Hillary's emails, and this creates
25:22a cascading effect that we have now been unfortunately living for the last eight years based on
25:30the Comey and Mueller investigations.
25:31This person has been underground for the last eight years.
25:35The last reported sighting of him was living next to the U.S. Embassy on Via Veneto in Rome.
25:41He's extremely well connected to both the British intelligence services and the Italian intelligence
25:46services.
25:48And unfortunately, during the John Durham testimony that presented his findings, he told the American
25:54people that he cannot delve into details about Joseph Mifsud.
25:58This is a massive scandal.
26:00It's probably a scandal that implicates Western intelligence, and that's why he has gone underground.
26:06I detail it in my book, and hopefully we do have some sort of resolution to who this person really was.
26:12Yeah, there's a lot of MI6 all over this.
26:15Alex Downer, the former Australian diplomat, always invited on the BBC, the state mouthpiece,
26:20there as an expert.
26:22Of course, he was linked to MI6.
26:24He's connected to Hackloid and Co., created by ex-MI6 officers.
26:30But there you saw Trump doing a U.K. trade deal with the U.S. with the new British ambassador,
26:35Peter Mandelson, infamous for being a friend of Jeffrey Epstein.
26:39Do you think the Kash Patel and the head of the CIA, I don't know what you think about
26:45his appointment at the head of the CIA, are aware of MI6 operatives operating against Donald
26:53Trump in the United States and in Europe?
26:55And the MI6 are obviously in Ukraine fighting with the dictator Zelensky.
26:59I certainly think, and actually President Trump, during his first term, was posting about the
27:07U.K.'s involvement.
27:09He went public, I believe, right before a trip to Japan during a remark to the journalist
27:14that said that Ukraine, Australia, the U.K. have to be looked into for their potential
27:19involvement of what happened in Crossfire Hurricanes.
27:21So he clearly understands who was involved.
27:25He has access to all of the declassified material.
27:27He has people in office in positions of power from Ratcliffe and the CIA, Director of National
27:34Intelligence, Gabbard, and Patel at the FBI, who are there to present these findings to
27:38him and not to obfuscate them or to prevent the truth from coming out.
27:42So clearly, I think that is why he did have a relatively cool relationship with the U.K.
27:47his first term.
27:48I think that continued into his second term.
27:51And now, of course, the U.K. kowtowed to Trump's administration.
27:56This was a very lopsided deal, I believe, for the United States and the Trump administration
28:01vis-a-vis the U.K.
28:03And of course, the United States will sign that deal as it bodes well for the U.K.
28:07for the United States.
28:09George Papadopoulos, thank you.
28:11Thank you very much.
28:12And that's it for the show.
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