- 5/14/2025
The guys are still dealing with the fallout of the Miami Heat not getting their own draft pick from making the pointless playoffs... Who is to blame for the Miami Heat missing out on the 1st pick?
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00:00marcos is uh back in the saddle today he was very upset during the break leroy
00:04uh do you want to into leroy why you're upset living why i'm sure leroy's gonna somehow find
00:12a way to disprove this but as we all know mavericks got the cold envelope this year
00:21which they only had 1.8 chance of getting do you know who was previously slotted in that number 11
00:30position before winning two meaningless games at the end of the season meaningless i mean it was
00:36meaningful for davion mitchell i mean yeah great yes i'm aware it was the heat spot frog boy so with
00:42that being said i think we have to add this to the list of things that eric spolscher did wrong this
00:50year and i'm personally taking all the blame that we no longer have a chance at cooper flag
00:57i don't even think we're gonna get our first pick correct that goes to golden state no our pick
01:02went to okc we have the 20th pick from golden state oh okay so but if we would have given that pick up
01:09we would have been out to drive for the next two picks because they would have been unprotected
01:13next year now you may say who cares we got cooper flag yeah maybe we would have had cooper flag
01:19cooper flag maybe without giving up anybody we're talking about a player that could potentially
01:23change your team at a cheap rate because he's a rookie so we can go before he is cheap the super
01:29max maxi super max whatever we have an opportunity to change that but no we're gonna win those games
01:35can i can i can i just say this there is nothing in this world that pisses me off than a loser
01:52talking about losing what yeah nothing pisses you off more than a loser wanting to lose more
02:00yeah that's what pisses you off the most that mentality interesting like you've been competing
02:07your whole life dude if you've been competing your whole life you get on that floor and you want to
02:14win i don't care what the circumstances are i don't care what the situation is for people to just assume
02:20that all these guys are just gonna go out there and say hey it would be better if we got a higher
02:28draft pick let's just go lose you can't tell me we wouldn't have sat in here the next day and called
02:34them all bums yeah i don't know no i want no part of this you can watch guys competing their whole life
02:44okay let's just go lose if if if the sixers end up getting and what did i tell you about the sixers
02:53what do you think they will never win because they have a culture of losing and that organization
02:59what about the mavericks the maverick the mavericks did it the year beforehand they tanked the end of
03:03the season didn't make the playoffs got derrick lively made the finals okay it happened it does it
03:09it has benefited teams before everyone does it except for the miami i just think this part i don't
03:15think i think if they were going to do it they should have done it after the 10 game losing streak
03:20for sure because the six game win streak it was a boldly win streak the only legitimate wins were
03:26beating jimmy and beating the celtics everybody else it was a bunch of hornets and wizards it meant
03:31nothing really like i don't i don't understand uh make up your mind you want your team to win when
03:36you go watch them or you want them to lose no i'm just saying like there's when you look at a
03:41six game win streak leroy if you have a win streak built on hornets and wizards it's not a win streak
03:45like okay okay like that that absolutely drives me crazy that you're now you're okay with we were
03:54okay with the dolphins losing right people were okay with all you would have did was people were
03:59dolphins losing the only people who weren't okay with the dolphins losing was espn who the entire year
04:05was saying they were a danger to players and yet somehow the the bangles got to sneak in there
04:09with a worse record and was like yeah which by the way by the way it did nothing for brian flores
04:17if you know if anything apparently it did worse for him for not taking enough because he claimed that
04:22he was getting offered bonuses for losing all right yeah warriors tanked a few years to get
04:29wiseman how'd that work out okay well they picked the wrong guy and they don't like their picks anyway
04:34yeah that's just bad drafting i mean if they could they could have worked he was the second best
04:38player in that draft no he was projected to be the second best player in the draft he stunk
04:44yeah yeah but but that's what i'm saying you don't know that when you draft him you should have known
04:49it okay didn't us didn't anthony edwards just come out and say when they had the second pick i think that
04:56was was that i think this was the draft he said that if we had the first pick he told ant-man we
05:02wouldn't take you yeah that that did come out maybe they're just bad at drafting
05:08i mean so much in basketball is slotted very rarely do you have too much of a reach in basketball
05:16football's different spurs tank for wendy the spurs did tank for wendy that's true and then they got the
05:22two rookie of the years back to back and now they have another pick what's going on here what's going on
05:27here all right all right so so you guys you guys would have been fine with that yes okay i mean
05:34look i will say it literally literally turns my stomach i i bsu not but it is the worst trait
05:45but you know the heat but you know the heat don't feel that way like pat riley just came out and
05:50admitted we've only tanked twice in our life we did it wrong when we got dwayne wade because they
05:53won that last game which flipped them from four to five which ended up getting them d-weight instead
05:58of bosh so do you look at the heat and you know how they they feel you don't think that some
06:06organizations like the spurs are owed the benefit of the doubt it's not like they're the hornets
06:11or they're the sixers you don't get a reset season so if the heat did do that nobody would look down on
06:18the heat and say you know what even like they admitted when when they when they flipped it around
06:21went 30 and 11 great story never made the playoffs right and they ended up paying deon waiters and
06:27james johnson okay eventually they got jimmy butler but also they could have gone that route he admitted
06:35they were maybe thinking about tanking that year like i think if any organization is owed it from the
06:40fans of being like oh yeah i could understand even if they did it this year like i don't know you're
06:44making fans so understanding all of a sudden we're pretty understanding if you're trying to get
06:49cooper flag come on i'd be like what number 10 all you in here is we suck we're so bad we
06:55needs to go uh this guy needs to go uh this player's a bum this is that
07:01but they're saying that anyway i've literally it's literally bought them not it didn't buy them
07:08anything this year and then they get and by the way they deserve the criticism for this year they
07:11stopped right but rocks hey by the way i noticed that too why is james johnson still in the league
07:17i think just enforcement because he's dangerous i think i think i think he's just there to scowl at
07:25the other bench if i got you you fire james johnson i'm not gonna do it i get it i'm just saying
07:32i'm just saying what do you want to go as a player
07:36that it turns my stomach to think that they're players organizations that say it's okay to lose
07:49i don't mean listen you could be bad right but that's the thing is the heat were bad like they
07:58weren't they weren't good this year they weren't a good team they had a cataclysmic thing happen with
08:04their star now the heat would have gone from the losing streak and would have just kept like said
08:09hey bam go get a back thing he goes what yeah go get your hip checked on yeah here's what i would
08:15have said though i feel like your back hurt and and here's when i would have accepted it and i said this
08:21all year you're five games under 500 just put kalal in there and let him take his lumps
08:28put pella in there let him take his lumps pella got hurt you see what i'm saying you're not you're
08:35not full-blown tanker but you'll do it for like a straight be like you know what let's take the gas
08:40off the pedal boys cruise control i just i would have played the young guys because i would have been
08:48better off next year even though i wasn't as good this year here's a different situation
08:53here's the thing though marcos look i get it and i got attacked by the kids on twitter
08:58wow which is what i'm referring to them now as the stupid kids on twitter and they say take more
09:03copium bruh copium yeah that's that's a drug where you cope okay right okay and yes i am coping you
09:11want to know why i need to cope yeah but the only thing i'll tell myself is the heat weren't getting
09:18that number one pick because i think i look i i hate to say this i genuinely think it's fixed
09:23for sure i genuinely think it's fixed i think that it's either fixed on two cases one luka dodges
09:29getting traded to the lakers for that is patently absurd yep it's absurd it's absurd that that's what
09:36he got traded for okay it is i'm sorry everybody thought that it was fake nobody can believe that
09:41stupidity this poor guy had to go with security his entire next few months because of how everybody's
09:47like how do you not get it's not even that you got that you didn't even get more from the lakers
09:52and you should have gotten more it's so silly and all of a sudden 1.8 percent you get the number one
10:01pick because it's either two things one the entire lakers luka thing was a ruse because they're the
10:07flagship franchise and they want to make sure they got a post lebron plan okay and so they're like hey
10:13we got you or they saw how pissed people were about it because this guy was so dumb and they're
10:20like we got to calm people down in dallas so yeah i just don't believe that he would have gotten that
10:25pick they just wouldn't have it was going to dallas it was a frozen ping pong ball it was going that way
10:31now now smithan makes a point sitting vets to play young guys is literally what tanking is
10:38not in this instance because smithan i've been saying it all year and my reasons behind it was
10:45if you know this year isn't where you want to be i don't want to go into next year playing the same
10:54game of hoping or wondering whether the young guys can play and this team didn't have a whole bunch
11:02of vets anyway that were playing well so it's kind of a situation where let me see what my young guys
11:10can do now a couple of them got hurt and that kind of maybe put the nicks on that but i would have been
11:16playing where every night i would have been coaching him up letting him take his lumps and then in the
11:24offseason showing him all that and saying this is where we need to get better but that's a different
11:30situation what you're doing you're not you're you're splitting hairs like no i'm not you are it is
11:36it's essentially wait who would you who would you have played if you obviously you would play your
11:40young guys but if you're doing that wink because bam hey bam go rest your hip for the rest of the
11:46season no i'm not saying instead of bam oh well i am telling you that's how it goes yeah like
11:52because you're acting like kalal were didn't play at the end of the season he played basically through
11:57the middle of the season leroy okay he did yeah so some nights he got three minutes not not the most
12:04most nights he played significant minutes he did so you're saying he's going to play 38 minutes a night
12:12instead of 28 minutes a night like that's what you're saying and bam go rest your hip tyler go
12:19rest no i wouldn't i wouldn't do that though okay i'm just saying i would have played the young guys
12:26more to to like if you're if you're not here i don't want to go into next year with the same questions
12:36i have this year about the young guys because now you're almost just like reset and doing it all over
12:41again i'd say you have more questions about your vets now than you do of anybody than even more of
12:45the young you always did like but that's but you don't understand that's everybody's point on it and
12:50i'm not a guy who like again i think there was a there was a there was a through line here of where
12:56it could have been for the heat and it was after losing 10 straight and it should have been like
13:00hey do we pull the plug on this thing and only the heat being as stupid as they were this year
13:05responded with a 10 game losing streak with a 16 a six game win streak though it was built on crappy
13:10teams and so you were in this no man's land of like are we going to be bad or are we going to be
13:16mediocre playing because there was a time where they could have like fell below the raptors and all those
13:21teams which didn't even end up getting the ping pong balls but you would have understood it because
13:26that team has like they get the benefit of the doubt they've you know what the team and the
13:30franchise is about now it's almost like you're you're clinging to what you feel like is winning
13:36basketball when really all they really built leroy this year they were the worst fourth quarter team
13:40in the league by by by every metric yeah all you all you did was reinforce how bad you are at winning
13:45and how bad and how how you continue to have losing habits so i really i don't think you're holding on to
13:52anything that's really beneficial like you you're you're holding on to this thing of honor that's not
13:55really there for the um it's not about honor it's about competitiveness like it's about they're not
14:04competitive they lose in the fourth quarter every game they didn't compete all right this i can't ever
14:12get you guys to understand where i'm coming from simply because we come from two different places
14:21um and and that's fine but i've played on three and 13 teams one it was the worst like the worst
14:35but i never went on the field who'd you get in the draft that year the next year
14:41eric turner how good was he he was good he was good he helped you the next year uh yeah yeah he
14:52went to um he went to a pro bowl you feel like you guys built losing habits the last year or you
14:58feel like you're able to bounce back no we didn't no see that's just it we were bad well we didn't get
15:04a chance to build losing he has because they fired everybody highest traffic defensive back in nfl history
15:11eric turner 2008 hall of fame ucla
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