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'Patience In Washington Has Its Limits': Expert Says Putin Must Give Trump 'Something' In Talks
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5/5/2025
On "Forbes Newsroom" Tinatin Japaridze, an analyst at the Eurasia Group, spoke about President Trump's frustrations with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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Let's talk about the Russia element here, because it seems like Zelensky has been trying to shout
00:05
from the rooftops, hey, Vladimir Putin does not negotiate in good faith. And it seems like
00:10
President Trump could be picking up on that. This is what he said in a Truth Social post,
00:14
quote, there was no reason for Putin to be shooting missiles into civilian areas
00:18
in cities and towns over the last few days. It makes me think that maybe he doesn't want
00:23
to stop the war. He's just tapping me along. So it seems like President Trump is publicly musing,
00:28
hey, is Putin taking me for a ride here? What do you think of that?
00:33
Well, actually, the meeting that took place between Zelensky and Trump, it also led Trump to
00:40
publicly threaten additional sanctions on Russia if his counterpart, Vladimir Putin, refused to agree
00:46
to a ceasefire. So we should note here that Trump has not necessarily been consistent in following
00:52
through on such threats that he has made in the past. But he appears to be visibly irritated
00:58
because ultimately, he needs to get some sort of a win. Now, what that win looks like on the
01:06
battlefield is not necessarily going to dictate to President Trump whether or not he's been able
01:13
to get what he needs to get out of these negotiations, because he needs to show that he has delivered
01:20
on his promise, if not to end the war to at least come up with some sort of a solution that results
01:28
in a durable ceasefire. So not a ceasefire for two days, but something that lasts a little bit longer.
01:34
Now, I'm very skeptical that this can be a long term ceasefire, because again, we are dealing with
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Vladimir Putin, who I don't think is going to give up on taking over Ukraine anytime soon. And I think
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President Trump knows this to a degree, but he may be underestimating how important essentially
01:55
having full control down the line of Ukraine is important to Vladimir Putin. This is not something
02:02
that Putin started thinking about last week. And it's probably something that President Trump
02:08
started thinking about and worrying about relative to Vladimir Putin somewhat recently. So it's a little
02:15
bit difficult for him to calibrate the importance of Ukraine in this conversation with Russia compared
02:22
to how he views the importance of this ceasefire and an end to the war.
02:28
I want to talk about something you said something a Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, and that is
02:33
both sides need to want peace need to want a permanent ceasefire for this to work. Is there evidence
02:39
you're saying no time soon that Putin that Russia wants a permanent ceasefire because he did offer
02:45
that temporary ceasefire in from May 8th to May 11th? Zelensky said that's an attempt at manipulation,
02:50
but it does take Russia to come to the table in a meaningful way saying, hey, I want a ceasefire
02:57
too. Does that look like that's happening? Well, I do think, Brittany, that actually Vladimir Putin had to give
03:04
something to President Trump, because obviously, patience in Washington has its limits. And President
03:13
Trump, and not just his broader administration, but him specifically, he was starting to really lose his
03:20
patience, as you alluded to this earlier in your question. And I do feel that it was very important for
03:28
Vladimir Putin to at least hand something over to his US counterpart. Now, is this a solution? I don't
03:36
think so. I think it's it's a bit of a stretch to even call it a bandaid. Because we have seen sadly,
03:43
that Russia does not necessarily abide by its own unit unilateral temporary halts to fighting in terms of
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any commitments to that, that it ends up breaking very quickly, whenever it decides to do so. So in a way, the
04:00
victory day related, temporary halt in fighting that President Putin announced for the for the for the for the
04:09
May Day, and broadly for for the May victory day observations, I think this signals that Moscow does not
04:19
anticipate a lasting ceasefire agreement anytime soon. Because if they were to think that a longer term
04:25
ceasefire is around the corner, I don't think that two, three days would really be worse even discussing
04:34
at this point, because they would be working towards something more durable. So I am skeptical about this
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announcement, I am generally skeptical about these unilateral sort of moves and, you know, commitments to
04:49
to stop fighting for a couple of days, because what does that actually do? Perhaps it signals that
04:54
there is some willingness to stop, but then there would really have to be a total halt in fighting. And
05:01
in the prior examples, including over Easter, we have not seen that. So, you know, especially through the
05:09
prism of a truce, if anything, both Russian and Ukrainian positions on the broader war, and any prospect of a
05:16
peace settlement as such, continue to be unchanged. So at the core, we still have the same problem.
05:23
There's massive distrust between the two sides. And as we've discussed over the past several months,
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when we revisit this topic, anything that is really going to signal a political settlement, a peace
05:36
settlement is going to be unlikely, not just in the coming weeks. But I would argue that we really are
05:42
at least months away from even seeing realistically, can there be any sort of a durable solution here?
05:50
And I'm just not sure that Vladimir Putin feels any real pressure, especially bearing in mind that Russia
05:59
does continue to stand pretty strong on the battlefield for them to feel like they really
06:04
need to stop fighting because they have to regroup and rearm. There's just no need for them to do that.
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