- 5/5/2025
Law & Order UK Season 8 Episode 2 Safe From Harm
Category
📺
TVTranscript
00:00...who prosecute the offenders, these are their stories.
00:05I could have left you.
00:09I could have...
00:12walked away.
00:17You'd still be sick.
00:23But I didn't.
00:26You didn't know it was wrong.
00:30Because I want you.
00:40I don't care what the law says.
00:46I've always wanted you.
00:51Philip Gardner, child psychiatrist, 50 years old.
00:55Married, two kids.
00:57Lives just around the corner.
00:58The cleaner found him this morning.
01:01She's downstairs, and it is.
01:03Right.
01:05Excuse me, my old mate.
01:06Morning, Joy.
01:07All right, Ronnie?
01:08Yeah.
01:08So, we've got multiple stab wounds to the chest and stomach.
01:13Wounds are deep, so we're looking for a large blade, possibly a serrated edge, but at this
01:21stage...
01:22Too early to tell.
01:24You guessed it.
01:25Yeah.
01:25Well, someone's had a proper go at him, haven't they?
01:28Certainly have.
01:29Ronnie.
01:30Yeah.
01:30Yeah.
01:30In a sec.
01:35Mm-hmm.
01:48What have we got here, then?
01:49And you say he treats kids.
02:01What is this, a place to sleep?
02:05A place for sex.
02:06A place for sex.
02:36I was
03:05helping my son
03:06with his homework
03:07he's behind
03:11on his history project
03:12so we worked
03:13on it together
03:14till quite late
03:15then I had a bath
03:17and went to bed
03:17and were you
03:23expecting your husband
03:25home
03:25his hours can be
03:28very erratic
03:29sometimes he sleeps
03:31in the office
03:32right
03:36whereabouts
03:37does he sleep
03:37on the couch
03:40I suppose
03:41this morning
03:44I had to get
03:44the kids to school
03:45and then I
03:47brought the dogs
03:48around me to
03:48the park
03:49we're gonna need
03:52to speak
03:53with your children
03:54I mean
03:54just to confirm
03:56that
03:56I haven't even
03:58told them yet
03:59just let us
04:00have a little time
04:01to adjust
04:02please
04:03of course
04:05Mrs. Gardiner
04:08you said this morning
04:09you took your
04:10dogs for a walk
04:11round the park
04:12what did you do
04:12after that
04:13then I came back
04:15and now you're
04:19here
04:19mum
04:20they allow us
04:21to come home early
04:22so I missed
04:23the French test
04:24mum
04:30DS Brooks
04:42this is
04:42Jonathan Shale
04:43he'll be
04:45examining
04:45Dr. Gardiner's
04:46patient files
04:47for us
04:48he'll be able
04:49to answer
04:50any questions
04:50without breaching
04:51patient doctor
04:52confidentiality
04:54really
04:55so
04:56we're not
04:57allowed to look
04:58into the files
04:59ourselves
04:59but you can
05:00and then tell us
05:01exactly what's
05:02in there
05:02well
05:02not everything
05:04of course
05:04but I'll help
05:05as best I can
05:06it is how it is
05:08we're on
05:08right
05:10so
05:11he just worked
05:12with kids
05:13yeah
05:1313 and upwards
05:14Dr. Gardiner
05:16specialised in
05:17children with
05:17deep emotional
05:18issues
05:19if that's your
05:20criteria for
05:21finding a suspect
05:22you've got your
05:23hands for
05:23run
05:25come and look
05:26at this
05:27excuse me
05:27this is some
05:30of the stuff
05:31we pull from
05:32the hidden
05:32room
05:32Dr. Gardiner's
05:34office
05:34right
05:34I've got a
05:35loyalty card
05:36from a cafe
05:37here
05:38this face cream
05:41which costs
05:42200 quid
05:43what for
05:45moisturising
05:45yeah
05:46I know
05:46and
05:47and this
05:48what's that
05:49soap
05:50no no
05:50this stuff
05:51is skateboard
05:52wax
05:53right
05:54and this
05:55coffee place
05:56is next door
05:57to the
05:58undercroft
05:59on the
05:59south bank
06:00yeah
06:00it's a skate
06:00park
06:01no no
06:02it's the
06:02skate park
06:04is it really
06:05the skate park
06:06very good
06:07well let me tell you
06:08Joe
06:08that stuff could
06:09belong to any
06:10number of kids
06:11wait
06:11this is a good
06:12lead
06:12yeah
06:13but you're telling me
06:14we're not even
06:14going to go down
06:15there
06:15all right
06:15and what
06:16are we going
06:16to look for
06:16then
06:17a skateboard
06:17or a perfect
06:18skin
06:18no
06:19this is
06:20a rich
06:20girl
06:21you don't
06:22know that's a girl
06:22no Ron
06:23how long was that
06:24child protection
06:24this is a Jane
06:25not a John
06:26I guarantee it
06:27right
06:27this is a rich
06:28girl
06:29emotional issues
06:30right
06:31hangs out with the
06:32skater boys
06:32it's got to be
06:34worth a try
06:34look if you're
06:36worried
06:36I'll hang back
06:38you can go in
06:39dazzle the kids
06:40with your skating
06:40skills
06:41yeah
06:41maybe chuck
06:43a few ollies
06:44maybe a few
06:45grinds
06:45what do you reckon
06:47what you got
06:51some front
06:51I'll give you
06:52that
06:52okay
06:57and where
06:58is she
06:59you see
06:59she's over
07:00there
07:00the one in
07:01the burgundy
07:01hat
07:02in the hat
07:02yeah
07:03all right
07:03does she have a
07:04name
07:04Anna
07:05Anna
07:05yeah
07:06okay
07:07all right
07:08thanks lad
07:08thank you
07:09Joe
07:15any luck
07:19I'm starting
07:21to think this
07:22wasn't such a
07:22good idea
07:23you know
07:23really
07:24well I thought
07:26you was going to
07:27charm them all
07:28with your cool talk
07:29you say cool talk
07:30yeah
07:31you know
07:32being down
07:32with the kids
07:33I don't even know
07:35where to start
07:36with that
07:36no
07:37well that's okay
07:39because Anna does
07:42don't you Anna
07:43no
07:44you can't just
07:46stand there
07:46hey
07:47hey
07:49police
07:50stop
07:52hey
07:52stop there
07:52hey
07:55hey
07:56stop
07:56calm down
07:57no
08:15get away
08:17get away
08:18from me
08:18you can't make
08:20me go back
08:20I'm not gonna
08:21go back
08:22it's okay
08:23calm down
08:24I'm not gonna
08:24hurt
08:24you can't make
08:26me go back
08:26to her
08:27I am not
08:27going back
08:28to her
08:28I can't watch
08:32her day and
08:33night
08:33no no
08:34Mrs. Sands
08:34I am not
08:35judging
08:36I just need
08:36to know
08:37where Anna
08:37was last night
08:38I told you
08:39she was staying
08:40with a friend
08:40she's been
08:41staying there
08:41all week
08:42she doesn't
08:43like my boyfriend
08:44she doesn't
08:45like any
08:45of my boyfriend
08:46so when was
08:47the last time
08:47you spoke
08:48to Anna
08:48well she won't
08:50pick up the
08:50phone when she
08:51knows it's me
08:52well how does
08:53she get on
08:53with Dr. Gardner
08:54does she see
08:55him a lot
08:55Philip the
08:57wonderful
08:57Philip
08:58yeah she's
08:58just fine
08:59with him
09:00but then
09:00you know
09:00when you're
09:01throwing bricks
09:02through pub
09:03windows
09:03and burning
09:04the curtains
09:05you need
09:05all the help
09:06you can get
09:06so yeah
09:07she sees him
09:08twice a week
09:09cost me a
09:10small fortune
09:10and somehow
09:11I'm still
09:12a bloody
09:12bitch
09:13well no
09:14I'm sorry
09:15I just don't
09:15know why
09:16I'm here
09:16so I skipped
09:18school
09:18so what
09:19hello Anna
09:30I've just been
09:33talking to your
09:34mum
09:34whatever she says
09:38it's bollocks
09:39well she was
09:40telling me about
09:42Dr. Gardner
09:43yeah
09:45and
09:48well
09:49what's he like
09:51he's the best
09:55we found some
09:57of your things
09:57in his office
09:59what is this
10:00what this is about
10:01me staying at
10:02Philip's
10:02I thought you
10:03were staying
10:04with your boyfriend
10:05okay wow
10:07you got me
10:09look
10:09he told me
10:11not to tell
10:12anyone
10:12so
10:13I
10:14why
10:14what did
10:15he do
10:15nothing
10:17jeez
10:18you've got
10:18such a dirty
10:19mind
10:20so why
10:21keep it a
10:22secret
10:22look
10:23he had
10:24strict rules
10:25about behaviour
10:26and a curfew
10:27and all that
10:27stuff
10:28look
10:29please don't
10:29tell me
10:29that he's
10:30in trouble
10:30about this
10:31because that's
10:31just totally
10:32unfair
10:32Dr. Gardner
10:41died last night
10:41Anna
10:42he
10:47he was
10:50murdered
10:51no
10:55no
10:57no
10:57did he ever
11:00talk to you
11:00about any
11:01of his other
11:01patients
11:02you're lying
11:03I know
11:06you're upset
11:07okay
11:09and I know
11:10that he was
11:11very very special
11:12to you
11:13but
11:13you can help
11:15him now
11:16by helping
11:17us
11:18find out
11:19who did
11:20this
11:20Anna
11:24this is
11:24for Dr. Gardner
11:25now
11:25please
11:27think
11:29oh
11:31well
11:36there was
11:40this
11:41this boy
11:43I think
11:46it must have
11:46been one of
11:46his patients
11:47or something
11:48and he was
11:51he was going
11:53to bring a knife
11:53into his school
11:54Philip
11:56sorted that out
11:57so
11:58that he
12:00he
12:01can't be dead
12:04he can't be
12:08Paul
12:18Paul
12:18Paul for God's sake
12:22open the door
12:24can I try
12:25can I try
12:25be my guest
12:27Paul
12:29hello mate
12:31it's DS Hawkins
12:32listen
12:33I know you've had
12:35a real shock
12:35right
12:36but it's very important
12:37that we talk to you
12:38about Dr. Gardner
12:40okay
12:41so we
12:41we just
12:42dad
12:42dad
12:44who's on his webcam
12:45and now the police
12:48are here
12:49they're saying
12:50that Dr. Gardner
12:51has been murdered
12:52I
12:52I don't believe it
12:53I trusted him
12:55he said
12:58everything was
12:58going to be okay
12:59but now
13:01it just feels like
13:02everything's
13:03gone black again
13:04Jesus
13:11Jesus
13:12oh
13:12ah
13:13ah
13:15ah
13:17ah
13:18ah
13:19ah
13:20ah
13:21ah
13:22what
13:22take it
13:23take it
13:23take it
13:24I can't
13:25work with me
13:27work with me
13:28take it
13:29take it
13:30that's it
13:31no
13:33Mr. Downing
13:40was Paul with you
13:43the whole night
13:45Dr. Gardner died
13:46well
13:48no
13:50he was
13:51since he was taken
13:54off the medication
13:55he
13:55he goes out for walks
13:58at night
13:58to clear his head
13:59what do you mean
14:01sorry
14:01Dr. Gardner
14:05took him
14:05off the medication
14:07I
14:07know he's a very good
14:10psychiatrist
14:11but
14:11that scared me
14:14and that's why
14:16I stopped the sessions
14:17and how did Paul feel
14:20about that
14:20um
14:23he went ape
14:24alright
14:26um
14:30they're transferring
14:31your son
14:31to the psychiatry
14:32ward now
14:33what do you reckon
14:44well
14:46Paul seemed
14:47pretty upset
14:48when we told him
14:48Gardner was dead
14:49yeah he did
14:50I just don't like
14:54the way all them
14:54kids love their
14:55doctor so much
14:56you know
14:56well you think
14:58he was abusing
14:58Paul
14:59I don't know
14:59maybe
15:00Paul's got no
15:01alibi though
15:02Joe
15:02you take a
15:05mentally unstable
15:06lad
15:06mess with his
15:07pills
15:08what happens
15:10then
15:10I think
15:11it's completely
15:12irresponsible
15:13Paul can't survive
15:15without a certain
15:16level of medication
15:16I'm just not a fan
15:19of
15:19kids being
15:20ducked if it can
15:21be avoided
15:22yeah nor me
15:23but if you study
15:23Paul's case notes
15:24you'd see there's
15:25no other option
15:26why Dr. Gardner
15:28decide his throat
15:29all out the window
15:29is beyond me
15:30Paul seemed to
15:32like his methods
15:33well he's a child
15:34he's a teenager
15:36but he's still
15:36easily influenced
15:37so Dr. Kerry
15:38you don't think
15:40Dr. Gardner's
15:41methods help
15:42Paul at all
15:43no I don't
15:44kids love
15:46doctors like Gardner
15:47because they
15:47break the rules
15:48but it's irresponsible
15:50and Paul's breakdown
15:52is all the proof
15:53you need
15:53well how do you
15:54think Paul would
15:55react then
15:55if Dr. Gardner
15:56had told him
15:57he was going to
15:57get better
15:58than he didn't
15:59not well
16:01where were you
16:03two nights ago
16:04Paul
16:04I'm just walking
16:07around
16:07thinking
16:08did you
16:11go and see
16:11Dr. Gardner
16:12just walked
16:15in circles
16:15my head
16:18gets
16:19so busy
16:20is that because
16:22Dr. Gardner
16:23messed up your
16:23treatment
16:24he didn't mess
16:25with anything
16:26well you've
16:29got to tell us
16:30what we've got
16:30wrong then
16:31Paul
16:31I'm a rock
16:33in the sea
16:35of chaos
16:35Philip taught
16:38me that
16:39it's what
16:40I say to
16:41myself
16:41I go walking
16:43in the dark
16:43and I say
16:44over and over
16:46he helped
16:48calm me down
16:49don't you feel
16:50calmer now
16:51that you're
16:51back on your
16:52medication
16:52suppose
16:54I feel
16:57shit
16:58you took a
16:59knife to
17:00school
17:00Paul
17:00went to
17:02the school
17:03and my
17:05brain was
17:06on fire
17:06and I
17:07just
17:08couldn't
17:08stab
17:09everyone
17:09just
17:10stab
17:10them all
17:11but
17:11I
17:14remembered
17:14what
17:15Philip
17:15had taught
17:15me
17:16that I'm
17:17a rock
17:18in a sea
17:20of chaos
17:21and it
17:24stopped
17:24me
17:24he
17:26he saved
17:27me
17:28see
17:28where's the
17:31knife now
17:31Paul
17:32I gave
17:34it to
17:34Philip
17:35he locked
17:37it in his
17:37desk
17:38to keep
17:40those who
17:40safe
17:40if there
17:46had been
17:46a knife
17:47our guys
17:47would have
17:48found it
17:48during the
17:48original
17:49search
17:49well you're
17:51right
17:51oh and
17:53CCTV picked
17:56up Paul
17:56wandering
17:57around the
17:57park
17:57so he's
17:58in the
17:58clear
17:58right
17:59okay
18:00Joe
18:03well not
18:08a knife
18:08but
18:09what have
18:11we got
18:11here
18:12clear
18:20right
18:33but the
18:33taste
18:34of your
18:34skin
18:35of your
18:37perfect
18:39unblemished
18:40body
18:41made me
18:43forget about
18:43everything
18:44it didn't
18:45matter if
18:46people could
18:46see us
18:47through the
18:47glass
18:47I don't
18:48care what
18:49they say
18:50I want
18:51you
18:52I want
18:54you
18:55I have
18:57to have
18:57you
18:58whatever
18:58the
18:58consequences
18:59who is
19:02this
19:02Claire
19:03we don't
19:04know
19:05yeah there's
19:06no Claire
19:07listed among
19:08these clients
19:08and she
19:09doesn't speak
19:09on the
19:10tapes
19:10not once
19:11to be honest
19:13gov
19:13we're not
19:14really sure
19:14what these
19:15tapes are
19:15or who
19:16she is
19:17and we've
19:17got as a
19:17Christian
19:18name
19:18and a
19:19rough age
19:19group
19:19that's it
19:20well if
19:20she was
19:20underage
19:21you'd have
19:21wanted to
19:22hide her
19:23oh look
19:23gov
19:24we can
19:25always go
19:25back and
19:26re-interview
19:27all of
19:27his female
19:28clients
19:28see if
19:29Claire's
19:29a nickname
19:29for one
19:30of them
19:30good luck
19:30with that
19:31what else
19:33well we're
19:33still not
19:34able to
19:34see his
19:35kids
19:35what his
19:36wife's
19:36in the
19:36way
19:36yeah
19:37strange that
19:38because
19:39they're the
19:40ones that
19:40can confirm
19:41her alibi
19:41it don't
19:43add up
19:43Wes
19:44I think
19:44she's
19:44lying
19:45she won't
19:46like it
19:46I don't
19:47care
19:47do it
19:49whatever
19:52mum said
19:53okay
19:54um
19:55be good
19:56to hear
19:56it from
19:57you
19:57though
19:57Riley
19:58hey
20:02Riley's
20:03unusual
20:04name
20:05it's
20:06my
20:06maiden
20:07name
20:07sorry
20:08it's
20:09my maiden
20:10name
20:10original
20:13original
20:13uh so
20:18anything else
20:18you can tell
20:19us about
20:19that night
20:20we just
20:22did my
20:24homework
20:25together
20:25took ages
20:28and then
20:29I went
20:29to bed
20:29hey that's
20:31that's good
20:32that's helpful
20:32Riley
20:33what time
20:35was it
20:36ten
20:40fifteen
20:41ten
20:43fifteen
20:44that's
20:48pretty
20:48precise
20:49how do you
20:50know that
20:50it all
20:51happened
20:52just like
20:53mum said
20:54well you
20:59know what
20:59that's really
20:59helpful
21:00Riley
21:00thank you
21:01very much
21:01I'd like to
21:03talk to
21:03Lisa now
21:04if it's
21:04okay
21:04I'm
21:06about
21:07afraid
21:07she's
21:07still at
21:07school
21:08just wanted
21:10to get
21:10some
21:10things
21:11be with
21:11her
21:11friends
21:12for a
21:12while
21:12have you
21:14come
21:14back
21:14no that's
21:15fine
21:15we'll go
21:16to the
21:16school
21:16talk to
21:17her
21:17there
21:17well
21:18I'll come
21:18with you
21:19that's
21:19okay
21:19thanks
21:20Mrs. Gardner
21:21we can
21:21handle that
21:22I was in
21:30my room
21:30mum and Riley
21:32were downstairs
21:33doing his
21:35homework
21:35Lisa
21:41yes
21:43yes
21:43doing that
21:43see I
21:47don't think
21:47so
21:48now
21:50why are you
21:51lying to us
21:52what did
21:54Riley say
21:55Lisa you
21:59gotta help us
22:01out here
22:02he came
22:11into my
22:11room
22:12okay
22:16when was that
22:16I don't know
22:18late
22:18he'd gone to bed
22:21and he woke
22:22up he gets
22:22these nightmares
22:23and
22:23he was looking
22:26for mum
22:26and
22:27and
22:30he couldn't
22:30find her
22:31so we
22:32weren't looking
22:32together
22:33you didn't
22:34find her
22:34did you
22:35do you think
22:44what
22:47do you think
22:51she did it
22:52your daughter
22:56made a
22:57statement
22:57you forced
22:58her to
22:59where were
23:00you on the
23:01night of
23:01the murder
23:01my client
23:02already answered
23:03this
23:03did it bother
23:04you
23:04your husband
23:05was spending
23:06so much time
23:06with young
23:07impressionable
23:07girls
23:08it was his
23:08job
23:09who's
23:09Claire
23:10I don't
23:12know
23:13why is there
23:13a secret room
23:14in your
23:14husband's
23:15office
23:15I don't
23:15know
23:16well I
23:16think
23:16you do
23:17I'm
23:20going to
23:20play you
23:20a tape
23:21recording
23:21that we
23:21found
23:22I'm
23:25willing
23:25to
23:25break
23:26every
23:26rule
23:27and
23:27every
23:27vow
23:28for you
23:29nothing
23:30else
23:31matters
23:31how can
23:34it
23:34when our
23:34feelings
23:35are so
23:35turn it
23:36off
23:36what can
23:49a sea of
23:50chaos
23:50jonathan how
24:09far back
24:10does the
24:10list of
24:10patients
24:11go
24:11i've got
24:12over 20
24:12years of
24:13cases
24:13here
24:13could you
24:14show me
24:15the first
24:15first
24:15ones
24:15please
24:16great
24:16hyper
24:18come here
24:28here
24:29go
24:36Alison, were you a patient of Dr. Gardner?
24:58Have you ever been a patient of Dr. Gardner?
25:00What's that?
25:03Is that my file?
25:06How old were you when he treated you?
25:08It's my file.
25:10He can't see that it's not allowed.
25:12Were you young?
25:18I was 15.
25:22Did you fall in love with him whilst he was treating you?
25:25I really don't want to talk about this.
25:28Well, you reacted very strongly when we played that tape.
25:32Was it because it reminded you of your experiences with Dr. Gardner?
25:35Is he doing it again?
25:39Replacing you with a younger model?
25:40He doesn't love her.
25:43And she doesn't love him.
25:46And how do you know this?
25:48He says acting without control or discipline.
25:51You've heard these tapes before, haven't you?
25:57They are the actions of a diseased mind.
25:59I don't understand.
26:01No, but there's no point trying to make him better.
26:04What did you do?
26:15Alison, you killed your husband because you knew he was abusing a teenage girl, didn't you?
26:25That's right, isn't it?
26:34Your silence isn't helping you, Alison.
26:36You know that.
26:38You think it is, but it isn't.
26:39You are wrong.
26:42Alison Gardner, I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder of Philip Gardner.
26:46You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when you question something which you later rely on in court.
26:58Hello.
27:00You gone mad?
27:01Huh?
27:01You can't start waving a patient's case file around.
27:05God.
27:05Huh?
27:06No.
27:07No, this is confidential information.
27:10You know as well as I do.
27:11They're going to keep this straight out of court.
27:13One, I didn't use any confidential information.
27:15Two, Wes.
27:17Two, I just asked questions.
27:19She answered them.
27:20Right, Joe?
27:20Yes, okay, but the file was in your hand.
27:23What, Wes?
27:24Oh, I'm sorry.
27:25What, this file?
27:26Yes.
27:26This isn't Alison Gardner's file.
27:28Well, I just picked this up on my way through to the interview room.
27:32Why did it seem like it was her file?
27:34I'm sorry.
27:42You still need to find Claire.
27:50Morning, Jake.
27:52Hey, Jay.
27:54We're up against each other soon.
27:55I'm defending Alison Gardner.
27:59Yes, I thought that she'd hired you.
28:01I look forward to it.
28:03Me too, Jake.
28:05Me too.
28:08I can't believe the daughter has changed her statement.
28:11How'd they get the girl to attract?
28:13Well, she's 16 and she loves her mom.
28:16Won't it have been hard to persuade her that she got her dates muddled and made a mistake?
28:19So now we have no witness to contradict Alison Gardner's alibi.
28:24No witness, no weapon.
28:26She's still maintaining her innocence.
28:28And we're no closer to finding Claire, whoever she is.
28:31And without Lisa's evidence, we're stuffed.
28:33Oh, well, now I'm reassured.
28:34I'm working on it.
28:35What else?
28:37Well, the police have worked through Alison's phone records and she made only one call the morning after Dr. Gardner died.
28:43To her mom.
28:44I know it must be difficult, Mrs. Riley.
28:50I have nothing to say to you.
28:52No, but Mrs. Riley.
28:54She's a good girl now.
28:59Mrs. Riley.
29:01The phone call the morning after when she...
29:03She didn't do it.
29:06Philip had put an end to all that.
29:09But she must have caused you a lot of worry with the trouble she'd gotten into.
29:13Yeah?
29:14That's a nice way of putting it.
29:16She still blames me.
29:20But I wasn't the one out all night, blind, drunk, with my legs in the air.
29:24But Dr. Gardner helped her, though, yeah?
29:27Oh, he saved her.
29:30Everyone tuttered because she was so young.
29:33I mean, she was just 15.
29:36But the shame of that, of them, that I could live with.
29:41Did they ever fight?
29:42No more than any other couple.
29:44The phone call the morning after.
29:47Did she seem distressed at all?
29:50Well, you can hear for yourself.
29:53Well, sorry.
29:54I don't understand.
29:55I wasn't in when she phoned.
29:57She left a message.
29:59It's on the machine.
30:00You know, Lisa, we were very surprised when we heard that you changed your statement.
30:11I just got things muddled up.
30:15It's just, you seem very clear when we spoke to you before.
30:18I just got things wrong.
30:19I just got things wrong.
30:21That's all.
30:22I understand that you want to protect your mother.
30:25It's a good instinct.
30:26But I'm not like the police, Lisa.
30:28Lisa, I have to fight for my cases.
30:31And if you won't speak, then I'm going to have to call your brother to the witness box.
30:36I don't think Riley would cope very well, all alone in court, having to see his mother in the dark.
30:43Do you?
30:44I don't know what to do.
30:46It's okay, Lisa.
30:47Just tell me what really happened.
30:50It's all my fault.
30:54I found the tape in Dad's office.
31:00I was snooping.
31:03It was stupid because his patients often have really cool things.
31:08And later in, it was disgusting.
31:19It freaked me out.
31:21I tried to hide it, but Mom came in and she saw I was crying.
31:30I shouldn't have let her hear it.
31:32I know what she's like, but I've just put it back.
31:46It's all my fault.
31:50Hi, Mom, this is me.
31:53What if you'd heard from Philip?
31:54He didn't come home last night.
31:57Hope you're okay.
31:58Bye.
32:00I'm sorry.
32:01How is this helpful?
32:01Listen again, in the background.
32:04Hi, Mom, this is me.
32:07What if you'd heard from Philip?
32:08He didn't come home last night.
32:11Hope you're okay.
32:12Bye.
32:13That doesn't sound like Regent's Park.
32:15No, it doesn't.
32:17Well, she can say what she likes, but cell site tower was showing Mrs. Gardner was nowhere near the park.
32:22She was actually somewhere around St. Penquist.
32:26Forensic audio have managed to isolate and enhance some of the specific sounds from the tape.
32:31This is...
32:32Hi, Mom, this is me.
32:39Is a train.
32:43Also, and this is a bit odd, they've picked up what sounds like a winching noise.
32:49around some pancreas you say yeah
33:01really i need two officers stationed inside of the bridge that side of the canal yeah
33:08joe they've got her on close circuit walking away from goodsway bridge
33:13goodsway right guys we're gonna have to look further along yeah
33:17joe do us a favor mate stop fidgeting will you you should put this time to good use anyway
33:29like like think of a way we can find this clear i've searched all the national databases for
33:38missing persons you know i've talked to all of his patients
33:41we now have the knife whose serrated blade and size could have caused the wounds on dr
33:57gardner's body could a knife that we can prove is in dr gardner's office it was recovered close by
34:04where mrs gardner was seen on cctv does it show her holding this knife it shows her in the vicinity
34:10and not in regent's park as she previously claimed what dna is there to link my client with this knife
34:18because we all know the water will mean you have no real evidence i'm satisfied that we have more
34:24than enough so am i
34:26it's all circumstantial we've convicted on less a jury's gonna wonder why mrs gardner lied to the police
34:37and we'll point out just how often she did look i appreciate your disclosure but really i was raped
34:43i was 15 and he raped me when i found out he was going to do it again all over again i couldn't breathe
34:53i was so scared of what would happen to claire i felt sick so i ran to him to confront him and to
35:00to stop him but then i i don't know i just i lost control i i stabbed him
35:08mrs gardner do you understand the implications of what you're saying of course she doesn't
35:17it wasn't murder you want to change your plea from not guilty to guilty of manslaughter no yes
35:24i guess that's right i do
35:27can't believe they thought we'd just roll over and go for a manslaughter plea is it really such a bad
35:40idea at least we'd avoid the trial and the cost there's less damage to the children
35:46you'd accept her plea over loss of control yeah i would
35:52look the repeated rape clearly qualifies as a trigger and you know the jury's gonna empathize
35:58with that so you think dr gardner raped her i do yeah
36:02oh come on what a mattress in a secret room it's not right she's standing over and over and over
36:15and over seven times not once or twice seven loss of control maybe but she must have been
36:24covered in blood and yet she walked away changed her clothes now the presence of mind to dump them
36:29somewhere we still don't know where like the tape she heard precisely disposed of and then she sent
36:36that message to her mother and took her children to school made them lie on her behalf and then only
36:42because we finally found the knife did she change her story now i understand why you feel like that
36:49allison's a very sympathetic figure but she knew exactly what she was doing and we have to make the
36:56jury see it's murder could you tell the court where you were on that evening i was at home
37:06and what were you doing at home we had dinner mom and riley like we always do and then i did my
37:13homework and stayed in my room all night no i was on my computer chatting to friends and stuff
37:24and then riley came in and what did he want he wanted to know where mom was and where was she
37:32we couldn't find her when did you notice she was gone about ten i think and when did she get back
37:41i don't know
37:44lisa
37:46i didn't see her till the morning but your mother said that she was with you the whole time
37:53your honor
37:54mr thorne
37:56is there an actual question you would like to ask the witness
38:01thank you your honor no your honor she said everything she should
38:06it's okay my love it's all okay i love you lisa i love you too mom
38:13please mrs gardner i cannot allow this i'm sorry sorry i need to get this to mr prasad
38:21mr prasad uh yes your honor i'm sorry um yeah okay right
38:44lisa would you tell us about the time that your mother planted lilies in your front garden
38:53i don't want to it's okay lisa it's fine mrs gardner please
38:57mom planted flowers two rows all the way from the gate to the door but when dad came home he was really angry
39:08angry and what did he do he ripped them up why why did he rip them up lisa dad said that
39:18she didn't have permission he treated me like a child didn't he mrs gardner i'm being as patient as
39:26i can in these circumstances i'm sorry but i will not have this case overrun by you
39:33you will respect this courtroom or you will be removed from it is that clear mr prasad
39:40thank you your honor is it correct that you were the person who found the tape
39:46yes and you showed it to your mother yes how did she react when she heard the recording she went quiet
39:58and locked herself in the loo thank you sir one last question lisa and then you're done did you ever
40:07hear your mother tell your father that she loved him yes of course lots of times
40:16that's what the jury make of it i think they're like him they love her there's something else
40:24great the defense have called up a child psychiatrist to dr antonia carey to give
40:29evidence in support of allison saying what emphasizing the ongoing trauma of childhood
40:34abuse in adult life oh no this is bad yes that's what i thought we're going from guilty of murder
40:42with a life sentence to manslaughter on grounds of loss of control with good behavior she can be very
40:48well behaved when she needs to be i can see her being back out in two years what do you know about
40:55this dr carey she is smart and very principled when we brought in the young lad who tried to kill
41:01himself well she made it very clear she had no time for philip gardner's methods well you think this is
41:07personal well she just felt the boy in her care would have been mistreated but the guy's dead i
41:12don't know why she wants to tread the dirt in her motivation isn't important will she damage the case
41:18she'll convince the jury all right she comes across very well yes she does doesn't she
41:25no news of claire well joe's out now trying all the homeless shelters hostels
41:31that sort of thing when we know you'll know i appreciate your efforts roly
41:45okay
42:01i think i can help you
42:07dr gardner abused the privileges of his profession
42:11there is never an excuse for sexual relationships with your patients
42:15it is an absolute betrayal of trust if you break that trust then your behavior can have tragic and
42:23even violent consequences even much later on in life absolutely thank you dr carey
42:33dr carey do you have examples of these cases where violence followed the sexual interaction between
42:40doctor and patient i do and of these cases how many of the abused patients went on to marry
42:49the adult with whom they had sex
42:52i don't know of any but
42:54how about those where doctor and patient remained married for 20 years and raised two happy and
43:02well-balanced children
43:05none but dr gardner was in a position whereby he could convince
43:10allison she was in love with him even if this wasn't the case
43:13so are you certain that dr gardner crossed a line when he had sex with allison yes it's unforgivable
43:21have you ever done the same
43:22of course not
43:24of course not
43:25never
43:27no
43:31when you were much younger
43:33uh quite early on in your career
43:35is it right that you used to counsel members of the legal profession after traumatic cases
43:42i did
43:44did you ever sleep with a patient
43:46how about a young solicitor who was deeply affected by a harrowing case involving the death of a key witness
43:57i
44:00yes once but only once and i should stress that the man was not a child he was 31
44:08but you betrayed his trust all the same surely
44:11dr carey weren't you worried about the tragic and violent consequences that may follow
44:31that was a low blow
44:47she's guilty of murder
44:54you're certain of that are you my team are and i trust them well you should have warned me
45:01how could i
45:03those were private moments between us
45:08we managed to keep them a secret for this long
45:12i remembered them fondly until today
45:18i can't let her walk free antonia and what if she's telling the truth
45:23she isn't
45:31my parents trusted him so
45:41when he took me away for days at a time they never questioned it
45:44the first time he drove me to a cottage in the middle of the countryside and
45:48there he forced me to have sex with him
45:55i left him because i wanted to please him but it hurt
46:01when i said that i'd tell someone he'd laugh he said no one would believe a screw-up like me and i'd end up in the loony bin
46:07and then he would touch me and tell me we were in love
46:17after a few years
46:29sex felt normal
46:31my behavior was better in public so i told him
46:37i wanted to go to college
46:39and he went crazy he
46:41drove me to a mental institution he parked right opposite right where i could see the gates and he said
46:47he would have me committed if i tried to leave him and then
46:52he forced me to have sex with him right there in the car he said he was turned on by the idea that someone might see
47:00yeah oh hello joe
47:03it's me yeah are you near a computer
47:06i dropped out of school
47:09my parents didn't seem to care
47:11and then uh not long after he announced that my
47:19therapy had been a success
47:26for a moment i thought i was free but
47:30then he told me that we were getting married
47:33well look in the other file
47:36yeah keep looking
47:41hi i need access to exhibit 17 the crown versus gardner case quick as you can thank you
47:49really
47:51that's great well done
47:56you looked at me and began to unbutt new blaze
48:00i have a park right opposite the hospital
48:04it was so blatant
48:06okay
48:08you couldn't help us
48:09kate
48:12i think i found something
48:16i found claire
48:17i heard him talking on the tape and
48:21it was all the same the same games the same tricks
48:27but now he was doing it to someone else
48:29i don't remember walking to the office i don't remember leaving the house
48:37i'd seen the knife before in his desk and he was lying on the sofa
48:48and i stabbed him
48:49no further questions your honor
48:59why didn't you go to the police when you heard the tape
49:02i knew that claire would never dare speak against him so nothing would have happened
49:07and why did you say that you loved him
49:09i i said what i was expected to say
49:13well it would be fair to say that his actions were not threatening
49:17wasn't he trying to help you
49:34mr thorne
49:39mr thorne
49:42yes yes i just
49:54yes
49:54you mentioned that dr gardner drove you to a country cottage could you tell the court about this please
50:06i i don't really remember he took me to lots of places
50:11but the first one
50:13what do you remember about that
50:16it was about an hour's drive for my parents very remote
50:20there was a small town nearby for food but otherwise we were completely isolated
50:25and what was the name of that town
50:30i
50:33i can't remember
50:34your honor
50:35with your permission may i play an excerpt from one of the tapes for the court
50:49and
50:58he laughed
51:00he looked at me and began to unbutton your blaze
51:03because we were parked right opposite the hospital
51:09it was so blatant and forbidden
51:12but we couldn't we couldn't help ourselves
51:17i'd become part of your disease
51:20and i knew right then that
51:23i had to be your doctor for life
51:26we were parked right opposite the hospital you said
51:31you and he had sex right outside a mental institution
51:35no
51:36he's describing you isn't he
51:39no
51:43what was the name of that town allison
51:45i i don't i can't
51:47the town was called claire
51:50it's the name written on all these tapes
51:52i think
51:53you thought he had betrayed you
51:57but the tapes are actually a memoir
52:00dr gardner named them after the town that you and he first went together
52:06these tapes
52:08are a testament of his love for you
52:11isn't that right
52:15there is no other girl
52:16no betrayal
52:18no betrayal
52:20no repeated offense
52:21no claire
52:24there was only you
52:30allison
52:38he never raped you
52:39did he he fell in love with you and you with him but you were
52:44so scared
52:46that he was going to leave you that you killed him
52:56did he abuse you allison
53:03allison
53:04no
53:10no no he loved me
53:14he promised he would save me and he did and i loved him
53:23i loved him what do i do now
53:28what do i do
53:34what do i do now
53:50time for a drink
53:53you won
53:54you two well spotted
53:56no it was more ronnie than me
53:58look at us both
54:01try not to take any credit
54:05you were right she was very convincing
54:08the jury would have gone with her
54:10and we got lucky
54:14you feel lucky
54:28he was a man who would stop at nothing to get his own way
54:33if you missed our new drama the widower it's on itv player now
54:37over on itv3 could a case from the past be back to haunt tony there's wire in the blood
54:43and there's western drama over on itv4 as a local tribe plans its attack in hell on wheels
Recommended
54:58
|
Up next
54:58
55:14
56:57
54:56
55:10
55:17
54:35
55:19
55:00
55:00
55:00
58:04
55:08
54:18
9:53
54:56
51:47
55:11
54:25
54:58