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00:00and i want to read this to you and do whatever you want with it but uh here's jaylen rose
00:04talking about the 2000 nba finals in game one where he purposefully went underneath kobe bryant's
00:10landing area and injured his ankle and purposely tried to knock him out of the series to give the
00:17indiana pacers a chance quote one of the things that happened in my career i don't think it's cute
00:22or am i proud of it i came from an era where you did whatever it takes to win we also realized very
00:30quickly we couldn't guard him this dude is something different so i acted like i was contesting the jump
00:38shot and purposely made him come down on my foot in my mind i didn't want him to break his ankle
00:46but i wouldn't mind if he missed the next few games because we would have a better chance to win
00:52in true kobe fashion the dude only missed one game lakers win the series and um jaylen rose says
01:02again i don't think it's cute not proud of it it was from a different era we realized we couldn't
01:09guard him to me that's what these things all say from dylan brooks that's what when you ask him are
01:16you purposely going after steph's thumb and he says this no i've been playing the game shoot uh if you're
01:22gonna come play the game injured or whenever you guys are all about the ball about about the game
01:26you know if i had an injured ankle i would attack that ankle every single time so that's just that's
01:32my take you should not think that that's cute you should not be proud of it you're not from a
01:38different era you're from this one you are admitting that you are not good enough to win on your own
01:44accord and the officials need to be much more aware of this especially now that he's openly admitted
01:51in front of a microphone well and i don't hear anything in there of him saying that i'll do
01:57anything that i possibly can that's dirty to try to target the thumb he's just saying that you come
02:03into a series hurt then we're going to go at you and he's going to go out the thumb and he's going to
02:08do it as much close to within the lines as he can it's not like he's i think that is dirty that is
02:14dirty it's physical basketball i don't think it's dirty physical basketball is not picking out one
02:19certain body part physical basketball is just playing physical ball what about when you intentionally
02:24land underneath the guy and here he has a bad ankle dirty and you're down 21 and you know you close
02:31out when zaza did that to kawaii who who has ever argued that i'm not i'm just saying that these
02:36things happen yeah like it's not it's not like happen this is not a lone actor you make it sound
02:42like that no i don't horrendously dirty person he is well that's yeah your opinion yes it is my
02:47opinion and i'm not seeing him like run over and grab his thumb and like during a stoppage of play
02:53what's wild to me is that when you say these things happen it's as if it just well then that excuses all
02:59of it like the guy literally just said i will i will go purposely after the thumb that's the
03:06definition of dirty it's the definition of dirty it's not the definition of dirty if he's dribbling
03:12the ball and you go and you try to steal it and you happen to hit his thumb that's not what's
03:16happening he's going after an injury not the ball not physical ball i'm trying to make your injury
03:25worse that's not basketball well it's basketball if it happens in the course of a play but it's and
03:31it's no not if you're targeting absolutely i mean you've got a guy who's hurt and trying to play the
03:37game not hurt the thumb right you're trying to play the game he's playing the game hard and when steph
03:41curry is going to shoot a three and you're going to contest it you're going to contest it hard and
03:46you're going to go after the thumb if he's got a bad thumb you're going to contest it in that way
03:50it's the playoffs yeah if you're dirty this is not again quote not a pre-season game i don't think
03:55it's cute and i'm not proud of it it's not dylan brooks yes no it's not and jaylin was from an
04:01era where this was much more accepted than it is now well that's you know what he says about his
04:05quote era and if you want to go back to other eras you had a lot of physical play and this would be
04:11right this would be par for the course and just because it's 2025 now dylan brooks is not supposed
04:16to be a certain way because you decide that no the league has we haven't decided because he's not
04:23getting fouls called and he's not jordan suspended he's not nothing's happening to dylan brooks so the
04:28league hasn't decided anything the league has made tons of rule changes over the last 30 years to get
04:33this crap out of the game well in fact the rule change that they made allows contact to the shooter's
04:38hand so the rule that they changed actually made this play you're much more allowable they've made so
04:44many rule changes over the last 30 years of hand checking and beyond they have tried to get
04:49this ugly 81 to 80 basketball from the detroit pistons out of the game if they've worked their
04:56butts off to get this out of the game so it again it's not nostalgic to me i don't care how many of
05:03you want to call me soft like this is the same stuff that we talk about in so many sports they won't let
05:09you breathe on the quarterback they won't let you run over a catcher they won't let you do this stuff
05:13anymore because knocking the greats out of the game on purpose is not cool no matter how rough and
05:20tough y'all think it makes someone it's not cool here's what steve kerr had to say about it you know
05:26the the rule the nba is once the shot has been released um you're allowed to hit the guy's arm and
05:33so what's happened in the league this year is players always are they're going to outsmart you know
05:39the rules they know what they're doing so players all over the league are just taking shots at guys
05:45shooting hands after release because they know it's not going to be a foul and i'm very confident
05:51the next year the league will fix it because it's only a matter of time before somebody you know breaks
05:56a thumb or breaks a hand or whatever but this these these are the rules i do believe they're allowed
06:02to call a flagrant if they want the refs could call flagrant if they if the guy winds up and takes a
06:06takes a shot but no it's been happening um across the league all year long it's the dumbest thing i've
06:12ever heard but you know we have to we have to take it through the league process to get that changed and
06:18that'll probably happen this summer i would guess what a perfect way to get the message out without
06:22getting fined i mean a brilliant answer a brilliant answer to bring attention to it to bring the word
06:30flagrant up uh to call it the dumbest thing you've ever heard but do it in a way where you're
06:35kind of six feet away from the actual topic that's being asked because he was asked if he thought
06:40players were targeting the thumb it's typical steve kerr yeah very very well played he answers it uh in
06:46the correct fashion which is you know he thinks the league will take a look at it and change the rule
06:50i'm not sure if they will but the one thing that he's trying to get across is that they should be
06:55enforcing the current rule which is if it's excessive or hostile then it's a foul and maybe it could be a
07:03flagrant if it's determined to be that excessive and that hostile if it's unnecessary in nature
07:09then yeah you could call that but the seed's been planted for the refs whoever the crew is for
07:14tomorrow to certainly watch this and we're already watching the off the ball movement and it feels like
07:20steph curry was given a couple of those calls in game three so this is all part of the posturing in
07:25an nba series um let's hear from some people on this daniel in the city wants to weigh in hi daniel
07:30thanks for the call hey guys thanks for having me yeah i mean i'll say this this thing with thing
07:36with dylan brooks you know nothing about it is new i feel like this guy's been in my life for what
07:4110 12 years i'm an organ alum um and you know he was the the most uh it was a love-hate relationship
07:48he had that really an amazing year took the ducks the final four but at the same time he was you know
07:53hitting guys in the balls and almost always suspended uh you know the rumor around campus was that he was
07:58bipolar um you know so for me it's like when what does it where does it end with this guy
08:04right i mean uh clearly he's not going to change i will say he is a pretty good player so people keep
08:11trying to pay him so i don't know if one day he's going to knock someone out and get suspended or get
08:15knocked out himself um but man this guy uh he's consistent i'll leave it at that daniel you're making
08:22another oregon alum mark grandy uh you're making him make weird facial expressions what's your
08:28response to this grandy daniel did you say the word around campus was that dylan was bipolar
08:32yes that was that was the word around campus and i think there was a lot of truth to it yeah so
08:40what year did you graduate dylan or sorry daniel i graduated in in in uh 2012
08:47uh but my buddy actually uh was uh was a coach on the the team so that was uh i had some good
08:54insight uh inside knowledge there so yes i think uh i think uh we all could see that uh he might be
08:59bipolar and last thing i'll add i actually one time during a volleyball game was suspended for uh
09:06talking a little smack to dibs uh had to sit out a game my coach was uh was a man of great character
09:12everyone let me play the next game because it did such a legend wow what school was that
09:17uh marine catholic you're uh yeah yeah yeah you're going to the alma mater yeah yeah things got a
09:27little bit yeah yeah things got a little heated daniel i talk to mr dibs every day and it works out
09:31fine it's okay while we're learning things about daniel what high school did you go to daniel
09:34i went to marine catholic myself you just said that what's your phone number and address
09:39no i can't tell you that no i'm just like what are we how long i thought he was playing against
09:45dibs and dibs was coaching mc i see i coached it uh drake knee archie williams and uh yeah marine
09:51catholic was the gold standard until i launched the dynasty thank you daniel thank you daniel appreciate
09:56it now i'm trying to circle back if i know any daniels because he graduated oregon in 2012 i graduated
10:02mc from 09 that means he probably graduated from mc in 08 i mean you could go home and get your
10:07yearbook if you want can we like get back to warrior basketball finally a reasonable duck take
10:13dylan brooks is bipolar go ahead and tweet that the worst thing dylan brooks ever did as a duck was
10:19he had the most egregious flop versus utah but he never did anything that he's done in the nba at
10:25oregon well apparently he did you just weren't you weren't in you didn't have a friend on the coaching
10:30staff the other worst thing he did was bipolar he took and made a very deep three at the end of a
10:36sweet 16 game against duke yes coach k got livid with him and that was all on coach k uh well
10:43that's an opinion i actually agree with you on that one i was bothered by coach k on that one i
10:49remember that i remember that because coach k during the handshake line he got in his face and then he
10:54talked about it in the press conference he's like i told dylan you're better than that right you don't
10:58do stuff like that you're better than that i've always kind of across the board had this thing
11:03about the whole rubbing people's nose in it by scoring i'm like if you want the game to be over
11:08then step out of midcourt end the game like but other than that people are allowed to play basketball
11:13this to me is a completely different subject i know people say stuff like that is like oh it's it's
11:20outside the lines or there's a code it's not classy rules it's not classy this goes way way far
11:27beyond not classy attempting to hurt steph curry i just i i don't know man yeah i know i know it's
11:34pro sports i'm not i i'm i'm agreeing with you i know it happens yeah it shouldn't you certainly
11:39shouldn't admit it out loud and my god he's allowed to he's well and they're allowed to call it and call
11:45flagrant fouls they certainly are and they should you know i almost in a way applaud him for going out
11:50there and saying what everyone else is saying like yeah he's hurt and i'm going after the thumb and if i
11:56had a bad ankle i would expect the same thing from the other team at least he's not hiding behind
12:01it like no i'm not trying to do that he's basically saying yeah he's hurt and that's what we're doing
12:07i'm laughing because one of our youtube commenters jan i says uh jan chosella i think just wrote it's not
12:13his fault he's bipolar so yeah i'm really really uncomfortable with uh people assigning an illness
12:23to another person a mental illness me too this is yeah but that's not no but well no no but you
12:31don't like you can't just you can say it but i think that that's a cheap shot you're you're going
12:35to say to somebody that they're bipolar that is uh for me it's reckless okay i'd like to challenge
12:42you in this last 20 minutes it's kind of odd that you don't think it's reckless to go after steph
12:46oh it is it is but it's it's pro sports but it's not okay for somebody who actually no you can do it
12:53but you don't know the first thing about dylan brooks and you don't know the first thing about
12:56steph's thumb injury and i know that uh it looks pretty bad yeah and he's had a rap on it for a
13:01couple weeks i mean i didn't say that i did know anything about dylan brooks's mental state i have no
13:07idea i know that i disagree with the way he plays basketball and have for years and just about 98
13:13percent of this fan base does yeah because this ain't our first rodeo with him it doesn't mean
13:17that and i know you can assign bipolar to the guy and i didn't one of our listeners just did he's got
13:23history i have no idea what it is right but i can tell you this i also get very bothered whenever
13:30somebody goes oh there's a warrior fan getting upset about dylan brooks when draymond green's on the
13:35team first of all two things about that draymond green does get criticized by warrior fans and media
13:42for some of the decisions he's made but you and i've had this conversation draymond has never ever
13:49in our eyes done this it is completely different it is completely different to be over the line with
14:00your aggression versus intentional injury okay i mean i totally different there are things that he's
14:08done that i would characterize as intention to injure i don't when you uh kicking steven adams
14:14in the groin that's twice are you not are you not trying to hurt a guy by kicking him in the ball
14:19you're gonna compare that to going after a wrapped thumb or hitting gary payton six feet in the air
14:24that was one of the cheapest things i've ever seen completely different i'm not all i'm saying is
14:29that that's what i'm comparing i would not exonerate dream on green and say that he's never tried to
14:34intentionally injure another player because i believe he has i don't exonerate him for doing
14:38that it was out of line but it wasn't to the level of what dylan does not even close okay not even i
14:43would disagree with that that's fine when you pick up michael beasley with two seconds to go in a game
14:48and you body slam him at half court that to me is you're intending to hurt him i don't see it that
14:53way at all i don't know i don't know why else you would pick a guy up and throw him to the ground
14:56you're listening to 95 7 the game kgmz fm in hd1 san francisco and odyssey sports station always
15:03live on the free odyssey app and now coming to you live from the laughing monk studios none of those
15:08things are taking somebody's career into doubt which is what he did with gary payton the second
15:12yeah no doubt agree none of those things are attacking a pre-existing injury which is what he's
15:17doing right now to steph curry um let's uh let's keep going 888-957-9570 how about uh that guy in
15:25oakland what's up that guy hey good afternoon fellas appreciate you taking my call i got three
15:32three quick takes uh one is about last night came initially i was uh a little disappointed and
15:38upset by it but i see uh steve kerr's move on that it's a chess game and he knew he was coming into a
15:44hostile environment he had a game to play with he's like well let me just let these guys wear it wear
15:50themselves out if it gets you know take the temperature of the room if it gets too hot we're just
15:54going to close up shop and let the young kids go and that's what he did and then as far as the topics
15:59guys uh uh dibs i'm a little disappointed in you as a fellow uh la marinda and i understand you're up
16:06in in my town now motown moraga that that that you're taking this stance because there's two
16:12differences here the first one is and i'll use other sports as an analogy if you know brady's got
16:19hurt ribs coming into the game and one more shot that's going to get him out of that afc title game
16:24then of course that's dirty knocking him out but if you hurt him during the game if you're boxing and
16:30you bust the guy in his nose and you keep going after that nose that's a little bit different than
16:35coming into it and you send a linebacker around the edge full steam ahead and take take brady out
16:42that's saying a few things that's a bad look that's saying that we are not as good as him
16:47we cannot win if he's in the game and we're going to do anything we can to take him out because we
16:54knew ahead of time he's hurt it's different when you knock again you knock brady out of the nfc title
16:59game and it's a one-off and you knock them out and you win the game this is a dirty dirty dude
17:07going after something that you knew was already there that you didn't cause but you're going to
17:13target it because i am not as good as basketball player as steph curry the houston rockets we are
17:19not as good as the warriors so we're going to try and get rid of him and that's what i take
17:25from dylan brooks's comment it's true it's a difference there you knock a guy out on a plane hit
17:30sorry that's the game but you target something that's a pre-existing you're a dirty player you are not
17:37as good as him and i got a new name for that guy it's instead of dylan brooks it's villain crooks
17:44it's a good uptick i don't know if he's committing any crimes but i like the rhyme scheme here's the
17:50other thing could i just before you respond throw this in i'm almost uncomfortable with when we're
17:54making analogies to football that's literally the problem a lot of people keep watching these
17:59basketball games and going these don't look like basketball they're like you're not supposed to go
18:04hit guys in this body part or that party a body part in basketball it's a contact sport it is a
18:10contact sport it is not football it is not football no one's saying that it is football but some of it
18:16looks like that right now well watch the new york game tonight and i was looking at the last game that
18:20these two teams played and there were 52 fouls called and if you want to look at game four rockets
18:26and warriors you could have called 70 fouls because there were fouls almost on every play and every
18:31action so the nature of basketball it's not football and i disagree with the notion that
18:37just because you didn't cause brady to have hurt ribs that you can't go in there and go after the
18:42ribs of course you go after the ribs if he's compromised wow and you can make him more compromised
18:47it's different in football because the ribs are literally the only place you can even touch a
18:51quarterback anymore that's fair hit his head you can't hit his legs you better hit his ribs
18:54playing in the playoffs on a bad ankle then you're going to try to go after the ankle you're
18:59going to try to tackle the guy and make the ankle worse there's no doubt that it does happen i've
19:04already said that to you a bunch of times and there's no doubt that it does happen more in football
19:08than it does in basketball um but in this particular case especially in this sport um the idea that you're
19:16going to openly admit i'm i'm not i'm not it's not just a hard foul it's not just physicality i'm not just
19:22guarding you closely i am purposefully i know you're hurt and i'm trying to hurt it more
19:27and like it's dirty it's dirty fine it's just dirty it's the reality of of the sport yeah but
19:36reality of pro sports in the playoffs reality is fine does not make it okay there are a lot of things
19:42that are reality they're not okay racism reality okay you're gonna compare this to racism i'm gonna
19:48compare it to anything bad anything bad i know you hate scooters reality not good but reality
19:56fine okay so that's all i'm saying it's dirty it sucks i wish it weren't a part of this i hate
20:02watching him play basketball i wish the refs would do some more things about it i hate it i can't stand
20:08watching the guy hoop because he doesn't want to hoop yes he wants to hurt people it is you're
20:13you're characterizing his entire night his entire career based on one thing no that's not no on are
20:19you kidding me he doesn't want to hoop i'm you just said he doesn't you just you tell me that's what
20:26you said and all i'm doing is listening to what you're saying it on one thing it's literally what
20:31he's done for his career constantly we just had a caller say he's doing this stuff at oregon no matter
20:37what our technical director thinks yeah the guy has literally made a career out of this crap and it
20:42sucks because you don't want to know what gets tucked under the covers he's actually good he's
20:46playing around well he's a good player why don't you just play dude just play you're a good player
20:53well he is playing no he's not part of his over the line well he's over the line if he's over the
20:58line then the refs should enforce it and correct they haven't done that enough correct in your eyes
21:04and in the eyes of many people so to just say that he doesn't want to hoop i think is uh is inaccurate
21:10he doesn't he wants to do more he wants to be mr tough guy and he wants to get in everyone's faces
21:16and wants to laugh when he gets jimmy butler to call him a b this is who he is he's way more
21:22interested in this stuff than he is just knocking down threes and he you know what good for him he's
21:27made a bunch of money doing it because he's a bigger name now and he's a tough guy and the
21:32rockets are paying him to do that because all they've got is babies on the team and they need
21:36someone to to be like ime udoka who who didn't have nearly as much talent uh as a basketball player
21:43all of it yeah that's who he is and and and i would i would wish that he would be better because
21:51that stinks that stinks to go out and say what i'm going to do tonight is be a dirty player why why
21:58aim higher for yourself