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Lloyd Smucker Asks US Trade Rep What Will ‘Success Look Like’ In Current Tariff War
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4/23/2025
During a House Ways and Means Committee hearing prior to the congressional recess, Rep. Lloyd Smucker (R-PA) questioned Ambassador Jamieson Greer, a United States Trade Representative, about the hopeful outcome of President Trump’s tariff policies.
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I now recognize Mr. Smucker for five minutes.
00:04
Thank you. Excuse me. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hello, Ambassador.
00:08
I want to thank you for the work that you're doing, for the change that you're working to bring about.
00:15
And I also want to point out the differences that we've seen in the past four years of the Biden administration
00:21
compared to the four years of the Trump administration, specifically in regards to trade.
00:27
I think Democrats and Republicans alike were very unhappy with the past administration's approach to trade,
00:37
basically, which was to do nothing, to do nothing to try to generate new agreements
00:42
and to do nothing to try to open markets up for American manufacturers,
00:47
to do nothing to try to bring jobs back to America.
00:52
And that's just in such stark contrast to what we saw during the previous Trump administration.
00:59
He had a bold and effective approach to trade,
01:02
one that really delivered prosperity and brought our trading partners to the table.
01:07
So we appreciate the work that the president did during his previous administration.
01:12
We appreciate the work that he's doing and that you're doing on trade.
01:18
It's a refreshing change to what we've seen over the past four years.
01:22
And we trust the president to get this right again.
01:24
We believe that we're seeing already the impact when you have tens,
01:32
I don't know how many we're up to now, but countries coming to the table that have for a long time
01:38
had tariffs in place for our goods, but we weren't doing the same.
01:42
And so the idea of reciprocal trade, I think, is a great one that I can tell you,
01:49
the American people in my district, business owners in my district, very much support.
01:56
And they support the goals of this administration to bring back manufacturing jobs to the country,
02:03
to bring back that investment in the country,
02:08
and then to open up markets to our great American businesses.
02:14
So I will also say this.
02:19
Many of those business owners who love what the president is trying to accomplish
02:26
are feeling a little consternation.
02:30
They're concerned about how we're going to achieve what the intent is here.
02:39
They still believe in what the president is doing,
02:42
as I think every at least Republican member here agrees with that.
02:47
But I just want to give you an opportunity, if you don't mind,
02:50
to just sort of expand maybe on some of the things that you've said previously,
02:56
but with that sort of audience in mind.
02:59
What would you say to, for instance, a copper manufacturer in my district
03:03
who you and I have spoken about previously,
03:06
but this is impacting their business in a big way?
03:11
And what would you say to other businesses who are in a similar situation?
03:16
And maybe how would, if you could just paint a picture of what success will look like here,
03:21
again, in the context of the successes that we've seen with USMCA negotiated
03:27
under previous administration and all that,
03:28
but take us out a few months, take us out a few years.
03:33
What is the end goal here?
03:37
I think I know what that is, but I'd love to give you a chance just to expand on that.
03:43
What will success look like?
03:45
How will that help every American business?
03:49
Thank you, Congressman.
03:51
I think we'll find that American businesses are much more competitive
03:54
when they have open markets overseas.
03:57
People talk about the high cost of doing business in America
04:00
and manufacturing in America and growing in America.
04:03
But when we cannot access foreign markets or we face barriers overseas,
04:08
and not just tariffs, but also all the non-tariff barriers that we've outlined
04:11
in this 400-page book, that increased cost.
04:14
And it makes it difficult to be competitive globally and even domestically.
04:18
At the same time, we have foreign producers who receive subsidies.
04:21
They have countries where economic policies depress domestic demand.
04:25
They make more stuff than they can consume.
04:27
They send it here.
04:29
And so I think what we're going to see in the near term,
04:31
we're going to see a handful of partners who open their markets more to us,
04:34
and it makes it much easier and much more competitive economically
04:38
to have manufacturing here, to grow products here, to process them here,
04:42
and export them to the rest of the world.
04:44
So it's a virtuous cycle that you create when you create a situation
04:48
where you have open markets, you create broader economic policies,
04:51
whether it's good tax policy, good energy policy, to give you the tailwind you need.
04:55
We have to reshore manufacturing.
04:58
This is an important way to do it.
04:59
We can have tariff protection as we get rid of the trade deficit,
05:03
reshore manufacturing, and as other countries open their markets,
05:06
they can potentially have a different arrangement that helps us
05:09
as we try to have reciprocal trade and get rid of the deficit
05:11
and get back to being a producing economy.
05:13
It's where we need to be.
05:14
Well, thank you again for your work.
05:16
I'm out of time, but appreciate your work, and we're with you.
05:19
Thanks.
05:21
And now recognize Ms. Sewell for five minutes.
05:23
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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