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Chief Justice Roberts Questions Lawyers About 'Opt-Outs' During Hearing On LGBTQ Books In Schools
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4/22/2025
Chief Justice John Roberts questions attorneys during oral arguments for Mahmoud v. Taylor, a case involving LGBTQ+ books in schools.
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The school board alleges that the opt-out system became unworkable.
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Is that a factor we should take into account in deciding whether it could be required?
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Certainly, there could be situations where it could be unworkable.
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The board never raised that until after this litigation commenced.
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When they announced the withdrawal, they said it was because every student needed to read the inclusivity books.
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When they produced documents in response to an open records request,
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there was no mention of it not being workable.
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When parents met with the superintendents, this is in the Hisham Garti Declaration at JA44,
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the reason given there was inclusivity.
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There was no mention of administrability until the litigation has been filed.
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Even then, all the board was able to come up with was an argument that in one instance in one school
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there were dozens of students who opted out, where if the average school size in Montgomery County
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is 700 students across at least a dozen classrooms, you're talking maybe one student per classroom.
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That hardly compares with the one in eight students who are opted out for individual education programs,
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15% of students in Montgomery County who are taking English for speakers of a second language.
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The board's own opt-outs that are required from the same instruction required by state law
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to be opted out when the same books are read in health class.
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Counsel.
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The board's own opt-out.
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The board's own opt-out.
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The board's own opt-out.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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The board's own opt-in.
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