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WATCH | Wunmi Mosaku On The Magic Of ‘Sinners’ And The Artistry Of Ryan Coogler
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4/18/2025
The actress shares what made this film a cinematic calling, and why every character left a lasting impression on her heart.
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I hope that people love these characters as much as we love these characters.
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When I finished reading the script, I thought to myself, I have never, and I actually said
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it to my agent, I've never read a script where I love and care for every single character
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that's written on the page.
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My name is Oakley Jones with Essend Magazine, Wound Me, I'm very excited to speak with you
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again.
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You know, I haven't been invested with a film quite like I am with Sinners, and I'm just
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happy for the world to be able to see the film and be able to speak with you again.
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Thank you so much.
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Good to see you again.
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Likewise.
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Likewise.
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For my first question, your character Annie, she's described as a spiritual leader and a
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healer.
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Can you talk about the role that she plays in the community?
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She is a spiritualist, a conjure woman, a healer.
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She is a pillar and center in the community.
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She owns a little shop where with roots and herbs and hoodoos, and then also hoodo practices.
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She also cooks.
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She smokes other half.
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She is a part of him in a way that she's his healer and his sanctuary, his place of vulnerability
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and openness, he can't hide from her, neither can she hide from him.
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She's a mother, and yeah, she's someone who is deeply rooted in her traditions, she's connected
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to the motherland, she's connected to the spiritual world.
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She's connected to the community, she's a very powerful person.
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So I think Sinners has a very unique storyline and unique plot.
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What drew you to the role of Sinners?
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Was it the genre-bending nature of the story?
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Was it Annie's character?
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Was it Ryan Coogler?
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Like, what was it for you?
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I mean, first and foremost, Ryan Coogler, someone who I deeply respect and I'm inspired
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by.
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I just think his artistry is so profound and necessary and he's a beacon and a keeper of
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Pan-African culture.
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I mean, he's a keeper of the culture and he like spotlights us and ours.
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I feel like the first seven pages I read were some of the most beautiful writing I had ever
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read.
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The scene between Annie and Smoke, that's all I had when I had my first meeting with him
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and I just felt this love for the two of them.
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I mean, I had never read something that was so perfectly written where you understand their
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history, their grief, their love, their hopes, their fears.
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They're why's and they're why not's, I guess.
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I wanted to be a part of that from the moment I read that.
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And I didn't have the whole script initially.
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I read that, I met Ryan, I was inspired by him.
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That meeting, he's so thoughtful, he's so intelligent and so eloquent.
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And he sees things in a way that I need his eye for me to see it too.
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In everything that he's done, I've been so grateful for his perspective and his wisdom,
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because it's taught me something for myself, for my hopes for the future.
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And so, yeah.
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When I heard Ryan Coogler, I knew that it was going to be special and then I knew I wanted
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to be a part of it.
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So I was able to see an early cut of the film and then, you know, as it got cut down, you
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know, you have a heightened role in what the finished product is now.
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How much does that excite you and what do you hope audiences would take from your performance?
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I, yeah, again, I just feel like so honored to be in this movie and to be, have the arc
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that my character does, like she, she's, she's an integral part of their understanding and
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their fight.
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And I, I hope that, I hope that people love these characters as much as we love these characters.
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I, I, when I finished reading the script, I thought to myself, I have never, and I actually
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said it to my agent, I've never read a script where I love and care for every single character
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that's written on the page, whether it's the young girl outside the, the, the store at the
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beginning, keeping an eye on the truck.
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I love her.
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I feel like I love that scene.
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I love that, that teaching of community and this is how you survive.
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Every single character that, uh, the Choctaw, um, chiefs at the beginning, I feel like I love
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them.
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Everyone's written so well, um, I hope that every person who watches this film loves each
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of these characters and feels for each of these characters in the same way that we do.
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So you spoke about Smoke earlier.
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I actually want to talk about Stack now, well, specifically Smoke and Stack.
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Um, what was it like playing alongside like opposites?
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You were playing with Michael B. Jordan.
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What was it like acting alongside Stack and alongside Smoke and was that like a challenge
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for you at all?
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Um, honestly, Michael, Michael's work was so detailed that it was so clear who he was even
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in rehearsal.
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Um, his energy was different when he came onto a set.
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When he was Smoke, I felt like we gravitated towards each other.
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I feel like, especially in the emotional scenes, there was always like, I was always kind
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of by his side behind him as support.
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And when he was Stack, he, he'd be doing his, his thing and I wouldn't even, I, I, I would
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be like, oh, that's Stack.
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Stack.
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You know, there was this, there was just such an energy shift with him that was so apparent.
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I could tell with my back turned if he was Smoke or Stack, I could tell so clearly.
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Um, so it was actually pretty, other than the technicalities of the actual filming, doing
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the scenes a certain way, a certain way, it was actually pretty easy.
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It was, it was easy because, because he, they, they were so different.
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They were so different.
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So for you, how big of a role do you think, uh, the music and the blues aspect played in
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the film for you?
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Oh, I think the music is, is an, is the heartbeat.
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Um, I think Sammy is the heartbeat, um, his love, his passion, his, his actual voice, like
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his journey, um, to the blues, his, his fight from, against his family, his love, his discovery
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of himself as an artist.
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Um, I just think it's, it's all, I think of the blues and Sammy kind of entwined in, in
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that it's the, it's the, it's a journey of like torment and, and, and, and, and love.
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Um, I think the blues is absolutely integral to the movie.
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So one thing I thought was really interesting when I was, um, you know, doing research on
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you and research on the film, um, Ryan called this film a, uh, comfort food movie.
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Um, it's something that he thinks is a personal and exciting for him as a moviegoer, because
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he's a director.
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But of course, I know he's a fan of film as well as, as are you, uh, how do you think
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that energy translated on set for you?
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I mean, it was amazing.
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Um, Ryan has such, uh, love and, um, respect for movie making and movie makers.
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I mean, but he also like, you know, he, he would always joke like, well, not joke, but
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he would always say, well, we're making a major movie motion picture, maybe major, major
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motion picture.
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He'd say, um, like, like every day, maybe three times, like guys, we're making a major
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motion picture.
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And it seems, seems like obvious, but actually when he says it like that, you're like, wow,
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we're really doing this.
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We're really creating something together and let it be major, like let it be.
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Um, so there was always a reverence there and there was all, and there was always a reverence
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from everyone surrounding Ryan of the work that he puts out into the world.
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Um, so I, I dunno, I, the, the, the feeling was always respect and enjoyment and wow, we're
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really doing it.
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We're making, we're making a piece of, of like culture, like it's a thing, it's going to be
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part of the culture and yeah.
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Well, Wumi, I appreciate you so, so much.
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I always love speaking with you.
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Um, the film is amazing and I know the world is going to think the same thing and you had
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an amazing performance.
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I'm just, I'm really happy.
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I'm, I'm excited for you.
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Thank you so much.
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