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Summer Lee Asks Expert: ‘Is $7.25 Enough For A Worker To Take Care Of Their Families?’
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4/15/2025
During a House Education and the Workforce Committee hearing before the congressional recess, Rep. Summer Lee (D-PA) questioned witnesses about wage inequity and living standards.
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Hello, Pennsylvania. Ms. Lee from Pennsylvania.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do want to say that it is a little interesting of a choice
00:09
to be holding a hearing on dismantling protections for equal pay on Equal Pay Day.
00:15
But we need Equal Pay Day because wage laws in our country were never designed to be fair.
00:20
From the very beginning, they have reflected the choices that we make, the choices about who we value,
00:25
whose labor we under or fairly pay, and who we leave behind.
00:31
And for generations, black workers, brown workers, women, and especially black women,
00:34
have been trapped at the bottom of that hierarchy.
00:37
We see that clearly in today's economy, where the people holding up entire industries,
00:42
nursing home aides, restaurant servers, grocery store workers, are often the lowest paid.
00:48
Those are overwhelmingly women. These are disproportionately women of color.
00:52
And they are working full-time jobs that still don't cover the rent, food, child care, their basic needs.
01:00
Mr. Stettner, in your testimony, you shared a report from the Institute for Women's Policy Research
01:04
finding that women earn about $0.83 on the dollar compared to men.
01:08
And for black women, of course, it's closer to $0.67.
01:10
For Latinas, closer to $0.58 on the dollar compared to white men.
01:16
So when we talk about modernizing wage laws, we can't afford to leave this context out.
01:20
As long as skyrocketing corporate profits and poverty wages exist side by side in our country,
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our communities will continue to suffer needlessly.
01:28
So we've grown accustomed to the idea that some people are bound to be wealthy
01:32
and others are bound to live paycheck by paycheck.
01:35
And the billionaires in the White House are counting on us staying accustomed to that idea.
01:40
This should come as no surprise given that our country and my home state of Pennsylvania
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has been stuck at a minimum wage of $7.25 for the last 16 years.
01:50
Mr. Stettner, do you believe that $7.25 is enough for a worker to take care of their families?
01:56
And will we ever address the wage inequity if that remains the federal wage floor?
02:00
The $7.25 minimum wage, I think everyone with common sense can know.
02:07
Even on a full-time job, you won't be able to support yourself.
02:12
And that's, besides the most of you are trying to even support a family on that little bit amount of money per week.
02:18
So my Democratic colleagues and I have supported legislation to raise the minimum wage
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and institute automatic increases based on the cost of living.
02:24
How will those types of proposals benefit working people?
02:28
So it means that working people can know each year, as the price of living goes up, that their wages will go up.
02:37
In many parts of the country, January 1st is a celebration day because states have put indexing in place.
02:43
And once Congress does that, we won't have to be debating and keeping as a token or a chip
02:48
of whether the minimum wage for the American worker goes up each year.
02:52
Thank you. And I can tell you from my time working on the fight for $15 that $15 is not enough.
02:56
We need a wage floor that reflects the real cost of living.
03:00
Workers shouldn't have to cobble together multiple jobs just to stay afloat.
03:04
We also need to talk about the subminimum wage.
03:06
While Republicans in the House are fighting to give over $4.5 trillion in tax rates to billionaires
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and large corporations, tens of thousands of workers with disabilities are being paid as little as $0.25 an hour.
03:16
Mr. Stetner, can you start by explaining the legal basis of separate treatment for workers by disability?
03:22
Section 14C of the FLSA allows people with disabilities to work in what are called typically sheltered
03:28
workplaces. And it's the employer that gets to see, well, based on your ability, how much
03:33
can I pay you? Which is, that's why people have been paid as little as $0.25 per hour.
03:37
Only certain workplaces are allowed to operate in this way under Section 14C through certificates.
03:43
People with disabilities do not want to work in segregated workplaces.
03:47
They want to live and work in their community. That's why the number of certificates have gone
03:52
down each year to just only about 500 across the country. And many states are already outlawing
03:58
this practice. The Department of Labor has done the right step. We've issued a proposed rule
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to cease issuing any more certificates. And the idea that the Trump administration won't follow
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through. And rather would say, let's put more workers with disabilities in this discriminatory
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environment in 2025 is something it's hard to contemplate.
04:20
And thank you. And just in the interest of time, I think there's so much more that we can talk about.
04:24
The subminimum wage, right? Separate from the wages for those workers with disabilities, but those
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workers who work in service industries, restaurant workers, folks who we know live off of tipped wages,
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where they see their employer able to shift the burden to the consumer. But we also know that those
04:41
jobs are more likely to come with sexual workplace harassment. We haven't talked about the benefits
04:48
cliff, where we know so many folks who work for lower wages recognize the simple math that if they
04:55
get too little of an increase, but not enough, then they would lose the benefits that keep them in their
05:00
homes or keep them with health care. Those are all issues that we have to take much more seriously.
05:05
So I thank you all so much for your time and for allowing me to join today. And I yield back.
05:11
Mr. Grothman from Wisconsin.
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