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Pramila Jayapal: 'Research Clearly Shows That Immigrants Commit Fewer Crimes Than Americans'
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4/15/2025
At a House Judiciary Committee hearing before the Congressional recess, Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) pushed back on GOP attacks on sanctuary cities.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and welcome to all of our witnesses, including Sheriff Wagner from my
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home state of Washington. Good to see you here. Perhaps the chairman would have this level of
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concern for the victims of senseless gun violence across this country, 47,000 people who were killed
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from gun violence just in one year alone. Or perhaps the chairman would have this level of
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concern for the families of law enforcement that were killed during the January 6th insurrection
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on the United States Capitol, or even the families that are suffering from rising grocery prices
00:37
and devastated retirement accounts thanks to Donald Trump's chaotic economic policy.
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Ever since Donald Trump came into office, my colleagues have been very happy to sit back and
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let him run completely roughshod over our laws. President Trump, Tom Homan, Stephen Miller,
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all led you to believe that this attack on immigrants was supposed to be about criminal immigrants.
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It was supposed to be about people who threaten public safety, despite the fact that research
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clearly shows that immigrants commit fewer crimes than Americans. They actually led you to believe
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that they were for the immigrants who did things legally. I can't tell you how many times on this
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committee. I've sat here as my Republican colleagues say, we're not against legal immigration.
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We're for the people who do things legally. They led you to believe that legal immigrants had nothing
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to worry about. People on permanent residence status or legal visas or legal status. They even led you to
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believe that somehow getting rid of immigrants would be good for American jobs, that it would bring down costs
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for the American public, and that this was all about caring for you versus them, some shady criminal
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immigrant that might be invading our communities. Well, as people's 401k accounts plummet with Trump's economic
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policies, as costs of everything that Americans need to buy keep going up instead of down, the effects of
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Trump's unconstitutional and unlawful actions against all immigrants are causing fear and havoc in our
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communities across the country. Let me be clear. Trump has targeted immigrants who are here lawfully,
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suspending refugee admissions, a program that, by the way, was once hailed by both Republicans and Democrats and the
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faith community everywhere as the cornerstone of humanitarian assistance. They are revoking the very
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programs that created legal pathways for immigrants to enter that effectively brought down the numbers at the
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border. And in revoking student visas and green cards of legal permanent residents, many of whom are married to
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U.S. citizens. They are going after every single immigrant in America, fabricating stories about
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these immigrants being, quote, criminals, even deporting them to other countries in violation of judicial orders.
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All of this leads us to ask once again, as the Fourth Circuit said earlier this week, in the case of a
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Maryland father who was, quote, mistakenly deported to a Salvadorian prison by the Trump administration,
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if due process is of no moment, what is stopping the government from refusing and removing to return
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a lawful permanent resident or even a natural born citizen? That is a quote from the judge in the decision.
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This obsession to weaponize every part of the U.S. government against immigrants is hurting Americans.
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It's taking away critical resources for crime prevention and counter-terrorism, drug interdiction,
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and other law enforcement at the Department of Justice and Homeland Security investigations,
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and it's terrorizing immigrants and their U.S. citizen family members, including those with no criminal
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background and with legal status. Now, the Trump administration wants to coerce state and local
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law enforcement to help them round up immigrants by threatening to cut off their transportation and law enforcement funds
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if they don't comply. Even though multiple courts have held that this is illegal and numerous research studies
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and law enforcement officials have confirmed that keeping the long-standing distinction between federal immigration
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and local law enforcement actually helps keep communities safer. In 2019, my home state of Washington
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passed the Keep Washington Working Act with bipartisan support. It's a common sense law to ensure that local
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policy remains focused on public safety of all residents rather than enforcing federal immigration law.
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We know that when local police act as immigration agents, immigrant communities and their families
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are less likely to come forward to report a crime when they are a witness or even a victim.
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It destroys the trust that police rely on to preserve public safety in communities.
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Courts have ruled multiple times that states have the right to enact laws like Keep Washington
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Working Act. And despite what you might hear today, the law does allow information sharing with the
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federal government when necessary for an ongoing criminal investigation or pursuant to a court order or a
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judicial warrant. As the Trump administration continues to bully and intimidate the country to bend the knee,
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we won't be intimidated. And I fully support Attorney General Nick Brown's efforts to ensure that everyone in
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our state follows our laws. The Major City Chiefs Association has repeatedly reaffirmed that across the country,
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if law enforcement officers are viewed by members of the immigrant community as colluding or working with
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immigration law enforcement officers, this would, and this is a quote, result in increased crime against immigrants in the broader community,
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create a class of silent victims and eliminate the potential for assistance from immigrants in solving crimes
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or preventing future terrorist acts.
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The Major City Chiefs Association has also explained that cooperation with the immigrant community is a crucial part of solving crime and
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preventing further criminal activity within the entire community, including ensuring protections for victims of domestic violence
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and sexual assault. Instead of trashing the rights of every American and destroying communities in our economy,
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this subcommittee should be holding hearings on why Mahmoud Khalil remains detained simply for expressing pro-Palestinian views
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that Donald Trump doesn't like. Or why Alfredo Juarez, a long-time labor leader, has been detained in my state of Washington,
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apparently simply for organizing farm workers for fairer wages. Or why a local roofing company just had a raid
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where 37 immigrants, who are long-time residents in our state, building affordable housing for our communities,
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were all picked up and jailed. Or why the administration refuses to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the United States
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to reunite with his U.S. citizen wife and his three children, even after admitting
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to mistakenly deporting him to a Salvadorian gulag where he fears for his life. Let's have a hearing, Mr. Chairman,
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on the disappearing and the kidnapping of people across this country, instead of hurting public safety for
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all Americans by undermining trust policies of local jurisdictions. I yield back.
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The chair is now pleased to recognize the chairman of the full committee, Mr. Jordan, for his opening
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stand. I think the chairman, here's how it works. I sends a detainer to the local sheriff or the local police chief.
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