The Jeremy Kyle Show 12th December 2017
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00:30What if she has stolen this money, what will that do to you?
00:37You need Steve.
00:44The deposits for the puppies are put in this tin.
00:47You don't trust this bloke at all? No.
00:49If you had to put your house in it, would you blame him? Yeah.
00:52Stacey, your daughter, has in fact stolen from you in the past. Yeah, yeah.
00:56She says that you're gone if you've nicked the money.
00:58Put out of it.
01:00Do you steal the money? No.
01:02Do you steal the money?
01:18Come on, guys.
01:20Come on, guys.
01:22Come on, guys.
01:24Come on, guys.
01:26Hello, my friends. Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:30Right, my first guest today, Anne-Marie, is here as she is certain, and I mean certain, that her sister Trisha has burgled a house and stolen.
01:37Check this.
01:38Two grand that this woman had saved and hidden under a mattress.
01:42Anne-Marie says that Trisha has a history of stealing and was one of the only people who knew exactly where the money was hidden.
01:47Anne-Marie says that when, not if, when her sister Trisha fails the lie detector, she will have nothing more to do with her.
01:53She will disown her.
01:54She says, I've waited years to know the truth about this lady.
01:56I know it in my guts and today I'll get the proof.
01:58Anne-Marie is on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
02:00You look ready.
02:01I'm ready.
02:02You look ready.
02:03I'm ready.
02:04You look ready for this.
02:05I am definitely.
02:06I'm slightly scared, but I'm coming a bit nearer.
02:07Welcome to the show, Anne-Marie.
02:08Um, Trisha's your sister.
02:09Tasha and Darcy are your kids.
02:10What did she just say?
02:11Whatever she mumbled, I don't know.
02:12I am 100% sure my horrible sister stole two grand from under my mattress or had some involvement.
02:31Give me some fact, not about her, what happened, what did she discover, when did it happen, etc, etc.
02:36I was basically out on the Sunday night and obviously I've received a fine call.
02:41I've received a phone call off Trisha basically saying, just mumbling some message.
02:45You say you hadn't heard from her for months.
02:47Hadn't heard from her for months.
02:48Apparently she was inviting me out for her birthday, which was on the Friday.
02:52So I don't know which birthday she was taking me out for.
02:55You told my team, I get the feeling now that she rang to check that I wasn't home.
02:58Definitely.
02:59Definitely.
03:00Um, why would you think that, well it was £2,000, why were you leaving such a large amount of money at home?
03:05Cos I just, I just save.
03:07Cos she doesn't want to admit she's going to work!
03:10Cos obviously I save, obviously I've made mistakes in my life and I have five children
03:15and I'm saving for their future and that's all I've ever done.
03:19What's your relationship been with her growing up?
03:21She's just always been a pain.
03:23Why?
03:24She just is, she's just needy and obviously aggressive.
03:27You say she's a druggie.
03:29Yeah.
03:30I get it.
03:31Hey, give her that.
03:32Tell her to wipe her chin for all that s*** she's just about to speak.
03:37Tell her to keep the tissue to put her teeth in.
03:43Tell her to keep the tissue to put her teeth in.
03:44Oh, anything else you want?
03:45Oh sure.
03:46Can I just speak to her and then you can come out please don't do that again with your
04:02teeth.
04:03I'm slightly shocked about that.
04:06Erm, right, so, erm, big thing to call out your sister though, why would she nick off you?
04:12Because she's literally, she's got nothing.
04:15Let's have a look, somebody broke through the window, why's their tape up? Because somebody smashed their way in?
04:20Well, basically because obviously they've pulled the window open, and obviously with them taking all my savings, they've now, I've had to take the window up because they've obviously said it's £150 to get it fixed.
04:30She never had any credit, she's never got anything, but strangely, the day after the money went missing, she was on Facebook.
04:36What, what, do you need money to be on Facebook? Well, she needs money for credit.
04:39Oh, right, okay. Did she know the money was there? Yeah, yeah.
04:42Why? Why would you tell somebody you've got no contact with for many months that there's money under the, wherever?
04:46Is that just because everybody, because I've been saving for so long, everybody knows, well, not everybody, but...
04:51Might I suggest that actually be trying to hide something you don't tell people?
04:54No, but I, to be fair, I know, I know, I know that.
04:58The only one said to me, I'm really good at keeping secrets, it's just the people I tell that tend to let me down.
05:02I know, I know that, but you, you wouldn't expect your sister who's...
05:05No, but you're calling her a liar and a druggie and a cheat and a thief and she'd done it before, why would you damn well tell her what the money is?
05:10I know, I know.
05:11How sure are you that it's her?
05:13100%.
05:14And what if you're wrong? What if you've called her out?
05:15I'll apologise, straight away.
05:17What if she has stolen this money, what will that do to you?
05:20Erm, you need Steve.
05:23You will need Steve.
05:26So your sister in your mind, a druggie and a thief, she's a scumbag.
05:30She's definitely taken the money today, she does a lie detector.
05:32Do you know what she says?
05:33I'm fuming.
05:34I've always been accused by her.
05:35I'm better than that.
05:36You have ruined my life and I'm going to put you right.
05:38Trisha's on the Jeremy Kyle show.
05:40Are you sure?
05:41Back here.
05:42Texts one to no one, innit?
05:43Staying cool standing here now, bab.
05:44Just get them over and done with.
05:45Because you're going to have such a shock.
05:47I'm fuming.
05:48I've been accused.
05:49I'd never steal from my sister.
05:50But you've stolen from other people.
05:51No, no I haven't.
05:52You've never stolen in your life?
05:53Who've I stolen from?
05:54I'm asking you, not her.
05:55I'm asking you.
05:56Have you ever stolen from anybody?
05:57Yes.
05:58Years ago.
05:59So you set the bar that you only steal from strangers, not your own family, yeah?
06:02Well, no.
06:03Are you on drugs?
06:04I've told him I smoke weed and take amphetamine, yeah.
06:05We've done a drugs test and it did show cannabis and amphetamine.
06:06Yes.
06:07But because of your honesty you were able to do the thing.
06:08So, this ruins your birthday, this accusation.
06:09When did you first find...
06:10Well, it didn't do my birthday, because my birthday was Friday.
06:11I phoned her Sunday night, just to see she wanted to come out for a couple of hours.
06:12She didn't answer.
06:13She didn't answer.
06:14She didn't answer.
06:15So, you've never stolen from other people.
06:16No, I haven't.
06:17You've never stolen in your life?
06:18Who've I stolen from?
06:19I'm asking you, not her, I'm asking you.
06:20Have you ever stolen from anybody?
06:21Yes.
06:22Years ago, I got bought a burglary.
06:23Amphetamine but because of your honesty were able to do the thing so so this ruins your birthday this accusation
06:28When did you first find my birthday to my birthday with Friday?
06:30I found it Sunday night. You see she wanted to come out for a couple of hours. She didn't answer so obviously I thought she
06:34Why would you bring her out the blue darling? I did answer I did answer on Sunday and it's in my phone records
06:40That I did answer on Sunday so that there's one lie. You say this woman is slander
06:45Do the thing Jezza. Ann what? Just do the lie detector. Annemarie is slandering me on Facebook calling me all sorts of vile things
06:52Just what? I'm not on smack. I'm not you. You lost your kids twice because you couldn't handle not getting off it
06:58I am fat and told Jeremy and his team. Yeah, maybe they should do a hair, innit? Hair job test, innit? You see how long it's been? Everything
07:05When was the last time you had to slip a smack and crack? Why look like a smack head and a crack head? No, you just look fat
07:10Exactly, exactly. So how many do you see? How many fat smack heads do you see? I was fat. I was 24 stone
07:17We didn't mean I was on drugs, did it? I weren't on drugs. Oh really? So you're not you're not on drugs?
07:21Well, because I'm not a pothead. How'd you get your money for your drugs? I don't get my money for my drugs. I'm on ESA
07:27Do you not think that that money could be spent maybe better sort of you know food or somewhere to live or maybe
07:32I've had a really bad thing. I do buy food
07:38My greatest line ever in the history of the Jeremy car show is listen, I'm not that stupid if I'd stolen two grand
07:43I've been living at large in Skeg Vegas. What's Skeg Vegas?
07:46The thing is you think it's funny this 2,000 pounds this woman's
07:52You told my team you know what this woman's a liar this woman's probably mislaid the money she's out to frame me
07:59I've not said that I said no I've not said that what I actually said was do you remember what he's bored?
08:04Yeah, and maybe she's bored. That's what I said
08:06I'm thinking I'm gonna be here. You've just had you okay, God don't make sure money disappear. Wait a minute. Oh, I mean
08:17Tashana Darcy don't even like their mum Darcy. Where's Darcy Steve up don't you do 50 quid off me mom?
08:23Apparently you stole off your own mother. Is that right? Grandma?
08:26No, off your grandmother did you steal? No, she didn't. Yes, she did. Did you steal off your grandmother?
08:31No. Do you believe auntie Trisha nicked this two grand? I hope that she didn't. What do you think though?
08:37It's a bit suspicious how she ran gone that day
08:40You know that is true that you didn't you didn't speak for months and then you ring her out the blue
08:45She text me and said is this Trisha so I phoned about and said it where and I turned around and said to her because
08:52She was going on. Did you steal the money? No. No, I text her and says who is this because I had a missed call
08:58Who's Tashana? Your daughter. Let's get a chair. Tashana the daughter's on the Kyle show that way
09:09Welcome to the show. You start on class this lady as my auntie. Why? No, we don't see her
09:12We don't see her. We don't see her. So we don't see me, so I'm a thief
09:15I've not said that have I
09:17Oh, you don't think she's a thief? No, no, I'm saying that. But what are you saying?
09:21What I'm saying is, no, I do think it is because I think it's very suspicious. She don't speak to my mum
09:25Yeah, my mum would not be sat here accusing you if you didn't make the phone call or if you didn't have who you've around you
09:32Who you've got around you, that's the point. You have to understand that. You're being accused because out of the blue
09:37Yeah, you have rang my mum. Why would you ring her?
09:39Because I was going to ask you to come and bear me. Okay, but why? You haven't spoke to her for ages
09:44She texted me on the Wednesday. Did you steal the money? No
09:47Do you think she stole the money? Yeah
09:48Give me the results, please, if you can
09:50You're very sure, aren't you? Yeah
09:54I hope I'm not. I will apologise
09:56I don't want you to apologize
09:57Straight away
09:57Then she doesn't have to accept it
09:59We asked Trisha, did you steal the money that we're missing from Anne-Marie's bedroom
10:03How many people in the audience think that Trisha's a thief?
10:07Put your hands in the air. Hands totally in the air. The rest of you don't
10:10We asked Trisha, did you steal the money that went missing from Anne-Marie's bedroom?
10:13You said no. Why'd you say no? Tell him the truth
10:15Tess says you're a liar, love
10:16I've not known
10:19I've not known
10:21I've not known
10:23I've not known
10:25I've not known
10:27Why did you fail the test then?
10:30I've not done it
10:31Go back in the audience
10:32I've not done it
10:33You don't need to do that
10:34I've not done it, Anne-Marie
10:36I've not done it
10:37I've not done it
10:38I've not done it
10:39I've not done it
10:40I've not done it
10:41I've not done it
10:42She went to go to the decoration
10:43She discovered the tin's gone missing
10:44You are devastated
10:45And instantly, quite interestingly, you blame Dean, your partner of five years
10:49He said it wasn't him
10:50And he accused Stacey of doing it
10:53Do you don't trust this bloke at all?
10:54No
10:55If you had to put your house on it, would you blame him?
10:57Yeah
11:12What kind of Christmas do you call this?
11:14The last Christmas present
11:16The only chance of you spending Christmas together?
11:21Happy Christmas
11:25Little Mother Christmas
11:27I've got lords here
11:29It's supposed to be Christmas
11:31Sweet
11:33You've got it
11:34Happy Christmas
11:37Happy Christmas
11:39I love you
11:44Holiday
11:45Don't doō
11:47Unique
11:48Get out of my way
11:50I win
11:52Why did you fail the test then?
11:53I've not done it
11:56Go in back in the audience
11:57Sit down
11:58You don't need to do…
11:59I've not done it Anne-Marie
12:00I mayいき him to give that
12:02I've not done it
12:03Why'd you fail the test then?
12:04I've not done it Anne-Marie
12:05What'd you do then?
12:06Why'd you fail the test then?
12:07then? Darling, I don't need to shout. It's written all over your face. Why did you fail
12:12the test then? Maybe it was because what time we got here last night? I was tired. Oh, my God.
12:17Just admit it. I've not took it. I've not took it. Yes, you have. My children will tell you
12:25what I save for. I save for a better future than them. I go without everything. I sit
12:30at home every single day. Oh, no, I've not took it. Very suspicious. Failed the test.
12:36Wrang her out of the blue and you're sitting there like butter, wooden, milk. You're sitting
12:39there degrading my sister saying that she stole when you're a thief. I've not took it. You're
12:44still. But you're sitting there degrading my sister. I've not took it. I've not took it.
12:51You failed the light. I've not took it. You live with burglary. Look her in the eye and tell
12:58her. You know what she's done. She knows what she's done. I've not took it. I've not took
13:04it. I knew. I knew. As soon as I came back that day. I've not took it. Why'd you fail
13:11the test then? I've not took it. It was an inside job, love. Nobody took anything else. It's
13:17not an inside job. Nobody took it. Nobody took it. But if you were naked, not that I've ever
13:21done that, you go to somebody's house, you wouldn't just go straight, oh, there's a television,
13:25there's an Xbox. I'll tell you what, I just lift up that mattress, oh, there's two grand
13:29and then I'll leave. That's ridiculous. It had to be. I've not took it. Why'd you fail
13:33then? I don't know why I failed, but I've not took it. I've not took it. I've got to find out
13:36where she was. That's what you've done. Admit it. You've got a drug problem. You've used
13:40it for that. Well, you've got to admit what you've done wrong. No. I've not took it.
13:44I've not took it. The batter wouldn't melt. I've not took it. Four years of saving for
13:49a better future because I messed up. I've not took it. Four years. Why did you mess
13:53up? I messed up. I was a heroin addict myself. I was a heroin addict myself, yeah, and I
13:59ruined my children's lives and I'm trying to better the future for them. I've not took
14:03it. Is that what you're going to say? I've not took it. All my close friends know. I've not
14:08took it. I've not took it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I want to listen to your sister
14:13because you've got nothing else coming out of your mouth. You're a liar. Be quiet.
14:16I've not took it. Talk. I just wanted a better future because I've destroyed my children's
14:21lives through drugs. I'm not lying. I've not took it. I'm no angel. I want a better
14:28future. If she admitted it to you, could you forgive her? I've not took it. I've not
14:32admitted it because I've not took it. The word is taken, but don't worry about it. Go
14:35on. Would you... Listen. I understand that drugs lead to death. I've not took it.
14:41Listen to your sister. I understand that drugs lead to desperation, but after what I've
14:47gone through these last few years, for her to know that... Be quiet! For her to know
14:52that and do this, I'm absolutely shocked. I really am. I've not took it. I've been through
15:00too much. I've not took it. I've been through too much. It's the lowest of the low, isn't it?
15:04Yeah? Yeah. I've not took it. So what happens from here? That's my children's future. I've
15:08not took it. So what happens from here? She's got no one. I've got... I've got nobody, anyone.
15:14Can I point out? She may take my money, yeah, but what I've got is priceless. I have my children
15:18back in my life. I've not took it. I'm clean and I have a nice... I've not took it.
15:22Can I say something for you? I can't... I can't... I can't go anywhere else with this
15:30story save to say to you this. God knows the frustration, the anger, the whatever you
15:35must be feeling, but when you did what you did, that is lowering yourself to a level you
15:41have brought yourself from. I know. I was just so... Now hear me out. I'm sorry.
15:43Because what would be so difficult for your kids to appreciate is that you made the mistakes
15:48you did, you turned your life around, you've been wronged... Oh, be quiet. You've been wronged.
15:52I've not took it. And if you react, if you make threats, if you do what you did, it will
15:56be you who gets into trouble, rightly, if you do something you shouldn't do, and then your
16:00kids will lose you all over again. So for me, it's really difficult, right, to walk away when
16:05you know this is the truth and something you've worked hard for. But there is a word that you,
16:10I think, would admit you've discovered in the last few years. Your kids certainly
16:14are here supporting you, which is dignity, love, and you need to maintain that dignity, don't you?
16:18And I've survived. Do you know what I mean? I've survived. Not many people could come out of
16:23a drug addiction, but I've survived. And I'm... Money's money. Do you know what I mean?
16:29She can't take my children away or anything, so if that's what she felt she had to do...
16:35Is that all you can say? Because I've not took it. Why'd you fail, then?
16:39I don't know why I fell, but I have not took it. Because you're lying. I'm not lying.
16:41She's called a lie detector. I know what it is. I'm wearing my security.
16:44Oh, I didn't take it. You took it away. I wouldn't do that to you.
16:47Do you know she's been there for you as well, wouldn't you?
16:49When has she ever been there for me? When has she ever been there for me?
16:52When has she ever been there for me? Everybody gave up on you. Everybody gave up on you.
16:56Everybody gave up on you, except for me. You can ask these what I have said about you all morning.
17:02That is my sister. I love that. And you can ask these. You can ask these. I haven't.
17:06I haven't. You need help. I haven't. She needs help. You need help.
17:10I'll help you if you admit what you've done. She needs help. I've not took it.
17:13I've not took it. Get the help while we are. I've not took it.
17:17I've not took it. We've had that. We've had that. I've not took it. How many times? 29 times?
17:21Yeah, and more. I've not took it. 30?
17:23We'll go 50. Failed the lie detector. I've not took it. Then why did you fail the lie detector?
17:28But I've not took it.
17:32Are you going to admit anything? Because I haven't took it.
17:36If I said, did you take it, what would you say? No. Why?
17:39Because I haven't took it.
17:41I really want you to hold onto that word I said. You're better than what I saw.
17:49I'm sorry about that. I really am.
17:51No, no, darling, you have your kids back and you have your dignity back and you have the respect of people.
17:55That's priceless. That's priceless.
17:56And you can't buy that, babe. No, I'm not taking it.
17:58You could have all the money in the world and still be on heroin and still have no relationship with your kids.
18:02What you've found... I could be Trisha. And I'm not.
18:05We will help you, Trisha.
18:07I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what...
18:12I'll tell you why people will warm to your sister through her honesty and not to you is because...
18:16I've not took it.
18:17For you, it's a joke and it's a facade.
18:19Yeah, I've not took it.
18:20You have issues, this show, the remit is to help.
18:22People will offer you that, but you need to be honest.
18:24And do you know what's really sad at some point?
18:2620 minutes, half an hour, tomorrow, next week...
18:28I won't.
18:29Somebody will really need to go, that girl admitted it.
18:31I won't.
18:32I really appreciate you putting your confidence in us.
18:33I took it.
18:34You two go that way.
18:35I'm a took it, babe.
18:36Brilliant, thanks.
18:37I didn't take it.
18:38I didn't take it.
18:39I know you apparently didn't, but you're fair.
18:40Listen, we'll let you know, my next guest today, Zoe, is here for all-important lie detector results.
18:52Now, she says that two years ago she was utterly devastated to discover a tin containing 300 pounds of her savings had been stolen from her attic.
18:59She says she immediately accused her boyfriend Dean, but also questioned her daughter Stacey.
19:03She says the past two years have been a nightmare and her relationship with Dean is now at breaking point.
19:07And she says there's no way she can marry this guy until he proves he's not a thief.
19:11Big Dave, very nervous.
19:12Zoe's on The Jeremy Kyle Show.
19:13The Jeremy Kyle Show.
19:14That way.
19:15APPLAUSE
19:16Why are you scared?
19:20Come on.
19:21Don't worry about them.
19:22They should be at work.
19:23Welcome to the show.
19:24Zoe, let's just see if we've got this right.
19:25Are you 43?
19:26I am.
19:27Are you called Zoe?
19:28I am.
19:29The producer got the notes right!
19:30Round of the round!
19:31Zoe, now this relationship with Dean for five years, before we talk about that, he's a suspect, your daughter Stacey, let's talk about the actual theft, what went missing, what you know. As loudly as you can. Come on.
19:46I had a tin, I had some puppies. Well, I didn't literally have puppies, but my daughter...
19:53That would be a different show. I gave birth to seven puppies. Right, you had some puppies. What's this got to do with the theft?
19:58And then, erm, the deposits for the puppies, I put in this tin, as well as keep on chucking, changing.
20:06Where did you put the tin, sweetheart? It's quite interesting.
20:09Erm, I didn't put it anywhere. Dean, Dean was the one that put it in the hattock.
20:14When and how did you discover, Zoe, that the money had gone?
20:18Erm, basically when my daughter, erm, went back up in the loft to go and get the Christmas...
20:27..tree.
20:28She went to get the decoration, she discovered the tin's gone missing.
20:31Yeah. You are devastated and instantly, quite interestingly, you blame Dean, your partner of five years. Why?
20:36Because he's, erm, in the past, he's done things in the past.
20:41Has he stolen from you?
20:42Erm, no. Not stolen.
20:46You have that look on your face that so many do who come here for a theft lie detector,
20:51that somebody that close that would do something like that is devastating and difficult to handle.
20:56And it's almost like you're sat on this precipice, you don't wanna accuse either of them,
21:01but there's that sort of horrible feeling that maybe today you'll discover
21:04that somebody that you trusted, somebody that you love, would cross that line.
21:08Dean's moved out. This relationship is suffering massively.
21:14Yep, yep.
21:15Because you don't...
21:16There's just no trust.
21:18Erm, he was struggling for money as well, I believe, when this dosh went missing?
21:23Erm, yeah, yeah.
21:25And I think quite soon after that I was told he bought a second-hand car.
21:29Why are you looking so scared? Is it because you don't really wanna know the answer but you do?
21:32No, not really.
21:33Erm...
21:34Why do you suspect your daughter, then, if it's all on Dean?
21:36Because Dean pointed the finger and when I asked Dean and he said it wasn't him
21:41and he accused Stacey of doing it.
21:43Now, here's another thing that you have to do with Stacey, your daughter has, in fact, stolen from you in the past.
21:47Yeah, yeah. Which she'll hold her hand up to doing that, which was just a little amount of money.
21:54Anything else over the months and years gone missing? Some jewellery, I believe.
21:58Some jewellery went missing.
22:00You don't trust this bloke at all?
22:02No.
22:03If you had to put your house on it, would you blame him?
22:05Yeah.
22:06What happens if it is him? What happens if he fails the lie detector?
22:09That's it. I'm gone. I'm done.
22:12APPLAUSE
22:15Easy to say that and hard to deal with, right?
22:19Both have done lie detectors, both report that they're innocent.
22:22He said, you know, Dean said, we were perfect, this relationship is beset by constant arguments
22:28because she doesn't believe me. I've made mistakes in the past, but I would not.
22:31He said, in a million years, nick that off the woman I love.
22:33Dean's on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
22:35APPLAUSE
22:36Dean, welcome to the show, how are you?
22:45I'm good.
22:46Um, been with Zoe for five years, you say you were perfect from the start, but there has always been, according to your notes, an issue of trust. Why?
22:53Yes, yes.
22:54Because you're a liar, aren't you?
22:56I have lied to her.
22:58Why?
22:59For one, I tried to probably buy her love.
23:04You can't even look at each other.
23:06We can't look at each other.
23:07But you're not living there right now, why is that?
23:10Because of what I've done in the past.
23:12How did you feel when she accused you, Dean?
23:14Devastated.
23:15Devastated.
23:16The relationship has been affected massively, how?
23:19Through trust. Her barrier's always been there.
23:22She says that you're gone if you've nicked the money.
23:24But I haven't.
23:26Why did you point the finger at daughter Stacey straight away?
23:28Because she took some money out of my jeans at one time, I know she did.
23:33Did you know that?
23:35I did mention it to you.
23:37Dean did mention it to her.
23:38Because she's stolen from you and she's stolen from you.
23:42Why are you so miserable, you two?
23:44Why are you so miserable?
23:46There's no passion in you.
23:47Why aren't you out here passionately saying I haven't done this?
23:49You look resigned to your fate.
23:51Because I haven't done it, that's...
23:53I'm not going to...
23:54I'll stand my ground if I need to stand my ground, but...
23:56You're going to pass the test?
23:58Yeah, because I haven't done it.
23:59You didn't nick the money?
24:00No.
24:01So it was Stacey?
24:02No, I'm not saying it.
24:03I pointed...
24:04So what, she imagined the money we're missing.
24:06This is horrible for you, isn't it?
24:07Yeah.
24:08Going to go to a break, get the daughter Stacey our next double lie detector.
24:10Don't go anywhere, right back.
24:11What's it like being accused, sweetheart?
24:13Are we Bill?
24:14I know, right.
24:15I pinched him past.
24:16I've got to admit that.
24:17Did you nick the money out of his jeans?
24:18No, I didn't.
24:19I'd never trust the bloke.
24:20Why?
24:21After what he did.
24:22Checked my mum like...
24:23How?
24:24Lied.
24:25Nearly got his arm took away from us.
24:27Still the money?
24:28No.
24:29Still the money.
24:30No.
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25:00lies in the past maybe by your own omission tried to impress it but you
25:03wouldn't do that to the woman you love the relationships affected it's been
25:06five years but right now you've moved out the intimacy's gone la la la your
25:09daughter's also in the frame she's Nick from you before and we just find out as
25:13Nick from Dean is that right yeah but you didn't know that or you did know
25:17that it told me that it told me that but could be a delay in tact you put the
25:22blame on to her it was you I don't know let's get her out of stasis on the
25:24Jeremy carl show that way did you make the money no I didn't I can end up on
25:39my heart that I didn't need that money he said that as well what's it like being
25:43accused sweetheart are we bill I know what I pinched it past I'm glad they admit
25:47money out of his jeans no I didn't why are you upset because it's not nice
25:54do you think I'll nick after she struggled with them seven puppies on
25:59her own a lot of people come on this stage and I'm not being horrible because
26:04they don't know people come on this stage and say that they haven't done it and
26:07they have you steal the money no you steal the money could you just mislaid the
26:13money no no chance no what do you make of Dean I'd never trust the bloke why after
26:20what he did straight my mom like how lied and nearly got his own took away from
26:28us and there's that many things can't explain when he blamed you how did that
26:37feel horrible do you think that's him deflecting it don't know most for someone
26:44find out so I see you sat there between two probably the most important people in
26:48life the man you've been with for five years and I guess a lot of people have
26:50said you know you shouldn't be with him is this is that is the other your
26:53daughter who yes might have done a couple of things in the past but it's
26:56probably grown up horrible position for you could you think Nick the money either
27:00one neither what no I'll have the results please well your choice my darling and her
27:16results John his results Stacey in a pass yeah I'm 1,000 percent now Stacey did you
27:27steal the tin of money that went missing from your mum's at it you said no why'd you
27:30say no telling the truth daughter was telling the truth
27:32we always do are you complicit I did you know who was who did it but it wasn't
27:47you do you know for sure it's still the tin that went missing with the money in it
27:49from your mum's attic Stacey said no your daughter told the truth on both questions
27:53happy yeah I am because it's not nice to get accused you know relieved as well
28:07Dean sure you didn't misplace this money if you steal the tin of money that went
28:12missing from Zoe's attic we asked Dean the man you've been with for five years you
28:15said no what did you say no because I didn't this is you're a liar she did she
28:23passed it you failed it I'm going to tell me I'm wrong now I am really you're
28:27wrong mate you've got it written all over your dodgy face I didn't you're a liar
28:31you need to get the woman you say you love is crying her eyes out
28:46I haven't took it this entire morning is somebody going I haven't took it I
29:09haven't took it yes you have you're a liar I haven't I've done a lot and listen I
29:14admit to a lot of things I've been in my life but I ain't admitting to that and
29:18I will take another lie detector you won't you failed him I spent any more
29:21money on you you're a tea leaf you're not worth anything can you speak to me
29:24please come on darling horrible I know and you know what I do is five I haven't
29:32took it do you know how many times you have lied to this woman and I have seen her cry and cry and cry
29:39in my arms we don't know who we're doing listen I haven't took this
29:45yes
29:47you know the worst thing for Zoe is that she basically defended you and didn't listen to
29:56everybody else saying you were a low-life scumbag and in fact now the problem is
30:00not that she's finished with you because she'll get over that because she needs a
30:03man who treats her decently the worst thing for her is she's sitting there feeling
30:06like an idiot for believing you for so long don't you yeah but I haven't took
30:10it I haven't took it is that all you can say yes because you need to get it
30:16fruity I haven't told that I don't believe you get that into your thick skull you're a liar
30:20you need your money I know you need your money why are you throwing your money I've been
30:26locked up my eyes out you just listen coming out now is it can have a go at me tea leaf what
30:31I'm not being funny wrong but we've done exactly the same lie detector test where you put your
30:37arms like that you sit still I'm not saying my aunt at all I passed I passed I passed I know I
30:45just be honest because I never took I passed but you know what I'm sure that
30:56everybody who was outed me for so many years I know yeah you blamed her quick
31:04enough didn't you you liar and I blame it's no you don't like the truth not a woman that
31:09you can manipulate your little finger faith not anymore I know I watched you and I was in
31:26with it but for another thing do it I was there with you why'd you have to lie I was
31:33there with it don't you think she's been through enough all the years tell me the truth why don't you just man up and tell the truth
31:39all over your face mate if I've done something no you're a smug is that you knew you were
31:53going to get criticized by him and you don't like it I did because there's no point shouting
31:58but I would have been a massive scene I want to make it that as a side as my job
32:04I mean a lot of people don't stick to what you said because you'd have to sleep awake at night to make
32:10sure that didn't nick other stuff off you seriously and you tell you said to me I
32:15can anybody sleep at night knowing that they've pinched well I can because I
32:19haven't talked in believe it I haven't I haven't I haven't wait around long enough for to admit it
32:29I'd leave with your daughter and get the hell out of that liar's face
32:31it's a whole day of people saying I didn't take it I didn't take it he definitely took it I hope
32:43that lady makes the right decision and moves on right let's make our next guest today Tiffany who's
32:47here to find out if Dave the man who she has always believed to be a dad her entire life is
32:51indeed a father now she claims that just two weeks ago she was told that Dave was not her dad frankly
32:57turning her entire world upside down she says today is probably the most important day of her life
33:02Tiffany's on the Jeremy Kyle show give her a round of applause
33:05you have got to put into context ladies and gentlemen this 23 year old girl right for all of your life
33:22Dave is your dad yeah he is this guy brought her up on his own single dad did everything two weeks ago a
33:32family member does what out the blue told me that my dad's not my dad I don't even know the right
33:40question to order what how does that makes me feel like I'm a nobody but you are somebody whatever
33:48who are you darling sorry I'm a step mom oh bless you you Dave's how close are you today I'm very close but it don't seem like I'm that close anymore because what I've been told
34:05has it changed the dynamic yeah it has but through the years what sort of father I've loved him he's been
34:11there for me has cared for me has raised me you said the most hurtful thing about the last two weeks is that he's quite
34:18literally he's he's pulled back yeah like he's pushed away so he has doubts as well are you Mary Jane yeah I am sweet she
34:26said Mary Jane is like a mum to me she was the first person I called when I found out and we both cried this has made me feel like I'm a
34:32nobody that I don't belong anymore I'm lost she's a somebody she's still whatever she's still a part of our family
34:40what if um how would you deal with how would you deal with it if someone's not it would hurt me it would kill me inside
34:48what if he is though happy happy happy happy over the moon what would you do to your relationship with that person who thought they dropped that bomb into your life two weeks ago
34:57she can she can walk out my life all she wants now let's get him out um there's no there's no way to make this
35:05there's no way to make this easy I can only read the results I hope you get what you want I know you can I watch
35:10every day good girl bless you Dave's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
35:27how are you kidder I'm going to say something now without anybody making any noise I know this is going
35:41to come out the wrong way I have the utmost respect for single fathers you brought this kid up on your
35:48own what is it like after 23 years to have that bomb dropped into your life it rips your world apart
35:54sorry it rips your world apart how hard was it bringing her up it was awkward very
36:03no help at all
36:08you and my mama and my granddad I've got him on my arm was this a shock to you Dave did you have doubts
36:15before are you angry are you furious are you confused what are you it's more anger more than
36:23anything else but she could you know somebody could do that to me don't you know you said something
36:28which I thought was very candid you said it's I don't want to have to admit this but I have found
36:34it difficult over the last couple of weeks I suppose I've pushed back from her I have yeah why
36:40I don't know it's something inside I just don't want to get hurt you know it's I don't your mind's a
36:48mess yeah does that mean to you everything the world everything I don't think I've ever seen two
36:54people so everything means everything the DNA test results show that Dave
37:01that's your dad
37:13oh my god
37:31listen listen I won't hold you long just listen to me people do things in life for all sorts of reasons
37:37you'll deal with that in your own way your judgment is a man is that this girl said you were the best
37:42father in the world I love the way you supported her you will make your own decisions people stir it
37:47you are happy you've got the truth that is your dad that is your family forget all the bs
38:04my daughter is hugely overweight if she carries on eating she'll be dead before she's 30 she'd been
38:09told that medically yep you thought you were 20 stone you're almost 25 stone
38:18i'm ugly you're not ugly at all i don't like myself at all
38:28do you think you're being lied to do you have evidence to prove it like home videos recordings
38:33or texts that you want to confront someone with if you're 18 or over you'd like to be considered
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39:02thank you my friends welcome back different story now our next guest hazel is here because she is
39:06terrified that her 20 stone daughter is quite literally eating herself to death hazel says that
39:11she can't help but blame herself for her daughter's size and lives in constant fear for kayla's health she
39:15says she's petrified kayla won't even reach the age of 30 if she doesn't change her life this lady is
39:20concerned guilty all sorts of emotions already on stage hazel's on the show give her a round of applause
39:32this show has always been about different stories it's about people's lives
39:36um i blame myself for my daughter being morbidly obese now i just that's difficult for me i love your
39:46honesty but how honest are you why do you blame yourself um i'm sure there's stuff that i could have
39:53done just tried to help her out more than ever i'm sorry my daughter is hugely overweight if she
40:00carries on eating she'll be dead before she's 30 she'd been told that medically yeah
40:04people will say oh my child was big boned i don't go with that at all you you also don't go with
40:11this this is overeating yeah are you been feeding her the wrong stuff encouraging or what it's
40:16truth she's a secret yes she'll have a meal and then she gets crisps or something from over the shop
40:23and then she'll sit upstairs that's so bad love from the age of 13 you had to take her out of school
40:27why didn't you get her help then she's 23 years of age i took her to the doctors um they just said oh
40:32it's what you're eating i get started giving her salads and stuff like that but i said when she was
40:37outside i couldn't keep an eye on what she was eating she was bullied unmercifully wasn't she yeah
40:43and i guess it's a vicious circle isn't it she'd seek comfort from the bullies by going back to her
40:49room and eating and then she'd come out again and this this lady i mean her weight has ballooned over
40:55the last year yeah it's really easy isn't it for me to sit here and feel sorry for her and you or
41:01it's harder to be honest you've overfed her she is a secret eater in terms of her organs from what i
41:08can gather already from from the medical side she's in severe danger of dropping down dead at any moment
41:14because of the pressure she's putting on vital organs that keep her going yeah so now a lot of
41:19people so when you listen to that they go well that's very black and white wouldn't you just stop it
41:22but that's like saying to a heroin addict or an alcoholic you're killing yourself you're going
41:26to have cirrhosis of the liver you're going to do whatever stop it's difficult imagine being
41:29addicted to the one thing that sustains us it's really horrible but what i'm trying to say to you
41:32is this i can't molly cuddle this kid no she doesn't she needs a severe kick up the bump i mean we've
41:39tried it my husband's tried it this girl doesn't even leave the house so if we're to come here today
41:43says she knows she's got a problem she's 23 years of age um kayla's on the jeremy car show well done
42:01that's brilliant that you came out here and i mean that mate okay that's brilliant
42:04i've always been on the larger side but recently it's got totally out of control i can't stop eating
42:17why do you eat i get bullied so i finally eat comfort food i'm five foot one and i weigh 20 stone but you
42:24don't do you because we measured you just now yeah you thought you were 20 stone you're almost 25 stone
42:34you can't look at yourself can you why i'm ugly you're not ugly at all i don't like myself at all
42:53so what do you think you're doing by eating even more then it's making even worse
42:57to the point that i'm gonna eat myself and end up killing myself medically what do you know i've been
43:03to doctors he said i was obese morbidly obese and he said i can have uh miscarriages because of my
43:10weight i can have the pressure that you're putting on your heart the pressure that you're putting on
43:14your main organs the risk of type 2 diabetes is phenomenal very easy isn't it to stand here and go
43:23stop eating difficult when you're slagged off in public and your response is to go home and
43:30binge on junk food i love the fact that you came here i love the fact that you said the first thing
43:40you said today to my team was i don't want to die i don't in any way ever ever think that this show
43:48can just click its fingers but we do have opportunities to hopefully make
43:53people's lives different if they want to do it give graham a round of applause if you get me a chair please
44:03great just to start um in your words how brave and how important is her coming to this studio
44:10it's hugely important uh and we've had a long morning haven't we uh it's been a very tearful morning
44:16very tearful morning and you have shown a lot of courage doing this today you um
44:26you always great you always talk about how any addict in this instance food can be weaned off
44:33through abstinence but it's the psychological impact and it's the strength that you need to find
44:39through other help counseling or whatever to sustain that position it is but yeah in this particular
44:44situation uh we've had a long chance this morning and so we go to the goal what's your goal your goal
44:51is to lose weight have children okay so we know that the goal is to lose weight then you go to the why
44:59why do you want to lose weight i want to have kids okay and fit in a dress that my mom when she gets
45:06there's two why's there's not a lot more there i don't want ill health i don't want to end up with
45:12diabetes okay i don't want to end up disabled i don't want to have mobility issues if i have babies i
45:20want to be active involved in their life so the why's are massively important okay because you keep
45:25focusing on the why's and that's where the motivation will come from i have to tell you
45:30something you've really really really surprised me because i think there's a lot more to you than
45:34you thought there was to you and i mean that okay i really mean that i thought i thought you'd come
45:40here i thought you'd come here and you you've absolutely taken ownership of this you haven't
45:45flunked you haven't said oh it's not me you've done that now listen here's the thing he's the nice one
45:50i'm the horrible one you're going to thank me you're going to hate me in a minute
45:56you really want to do this do you i do well you think it's going to be easy do you
46:00please welcome craig from team boot camp that way
46:12just residential by the way is this residential here's what's going to happen you're going to love
46:18this slash hate it you're going to go to team boot camp with this man for you ready for this three
46:24months you won't leave there for three months the last person that went lost was it ten stone yeah
46:30just just about working out every morning until you ate the thought of getting out of your bed
46:34this is an incomplete change of your entire lifestyle craig tell us more
46:37basically what you need now is a big short sharp shock in the right direction you've got yourself
46:49in a rut and we need to break out that rut what you're going to go through is about five hours a
46:54pretty tough military style no compromise training every day if you think you're going to lie in your
46:59bed we're going to drag you out okay the flip side of that is that we're going to make sure that your
47:04food is right we're going to look at the mindset behind why you're eating we're going to create
47:09some new habits change some old habits we're going to get you on track within three months
47:18these guys are amazing i wouldn't use anybody these guys are amazing graham knows that but let me just
47:23tell you because i'm not allowed to swear this will be the hardest thing you have ever done in the history
47:26of your life when you want to eat more chocolate these guys will drag you but i swear to god
47:31if you get your head down right and you go through the pain like a detox if you like
47:37come back here because i think you're i think this audio i think everybody will be amazed these
47:40guys are fantastic and it will change your life if you embrace it it's down to you
47:50this is the help and support that you were asking for yeah it's yours to take and only you can
47:55mess it up okay yes or no i want it i want to prove to my mom that she won't have to wake up and see me
48:01dead too
48:08i never know when i'm going to do a part like this what's going to happen i really genuinely mean
48:11this i like you very much i hope well i know craig's a good man and graham believes this is the
48:16right way i know this will make a massive i think for you to come here today and do this
48:20in front of these people tells me everything and i hope we can make a difference come back in three
48:25months promise me brilliant and you have to be strong as well okay thanks buddy before we go that
48:34way thank you honestly give a round of applause good luck nice way to end she'll be back in three
48:41months great from team boot camp and do his stuff i'm out of time for this morning if you want to be here
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