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Get ready for another outrageous episode of Pillow Talk, hosted by the charming Ryan Pownall! This time, he's joined by the hilarious Whitney Cummings and the mesmerizing Angela White as co-hosts, creating a power-packed trio. Their special guest is the charismatic and talented Hannah Stocking, known not only for her incredible comedic skills but also for her eventful love life.
In this episode, they dive deep into Hannah's romantic escapades, sharing candid stories, hilarious anecdotes, and valuable insights on navigating the complexities of love and relationships. From heartwarming moments to laugh-out-loud tales, get ready for a rollercoaster ride of emotions and
laughter as they peel back the curtain on Hannah's captivating love-life.
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00:00:00Welcome back to the show, everybody.
00:00:24Today on the show, I have the beautiful, blonde, Elsa Jean.
00:00:28Hi, Elsa.
00:00:29Hi, guys.
00:00:30How are you?
00:00:31I'm good.
00:00:31How are you?
00:00:32I'm good.
00:00:33I really appreciate you coming on the show, especially because it was so last minute.
00:00:37I kind of panicked yesterday and hit you up, and I was like, hey, are you available to
00:00:41do my podcast tomorrow?
00:00:42And you were, which really, really surprised me.
00:00:45Yes.
00:00:45I mean, I've been off for a couple weeks now, so the avian.
00:00:50The avian flu.
00:00:52Yeah.
00:00:52Yeah.
00:00:52Germs.
00:00:54Everyone's sick, so.
00:00:56Yeah.
00:00:56And we call it, so we call it the avian flu, not to be confused with the avian flu, because
00:01:02everybody, when they go to this convention, the avian show and the avian awards in Las
00:01:08Vegas every year, everybody gets sick because it's in this small casino, and there's a ton
00:01:14of cigarette smoke in the air, and you're signing, and you're taking pictures, so you're touching
00:01:20a bunch of strangers.
00:01:22And a lot of times, girls, you have to go out and go to parties that night.
00:01:26So people are up late, and then they have to get up early, so it's this perfect kind
00:01:30of petri dish of viruses and bacteria and immune system lowering variables to make you
00:01:39sick, and just everybody gets sick.
00:01:41And I usually make it a point not to book a shoot the week after avian, because I know
00:01:46that half of the people are going to be sick and not be able to show up.
00:01:50I feel like you either get the stomach flu or an actual cold or whatever.
00:01:56Because last year, I had the stomach flu, and that was terrible.
00:01:59I've been dying to get the stomach flu.
00:02:01I need to lose these last 10 pounds.
00:02:02Stop it.
00:02:03So I'm like, where can I get the stomach flu?
00:02:05No.
00:02:06Next time, I'm just going to ask people, whoever's the stomach flu, just come over and
00:02:10let's make out, because I'm just like, I need to lose this weight like that, and I
00:02:14hear that that's the best way to go.
00:02:16It's like the new diet, like the new-
00:02:19Get this flu, because I didn't eat for a week.
00:02:22Are you still, you're not still sick, right?
00:02:24I mean, I have been on antibiotics for, you know, for forever.
00:02:28Do you want to maybe like, give me a little tongue after the show and like-
00:02:30Should I cough, I do?
00:02:31Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:02:31And you just hold your mouth open.
00:02:33Yeah, perfect.
00:02:36That's so disgusting.
00:02:38Unfortunately-
00:02:38You won't eat with this, whatever this flu is.
00:02:41Okay, that's what I need.
00:02:42My friend lost nine pounds.
00:02:44I lost my ass, which I didn't even have an ass before, so I was like so upset.
00:02:50So get the flu.
00:02:51The only problem is, is that I have work, and I don't want to not show up to work.
00:02:56I have three shoots next week.
00:02:57You won't show up.
00:02:57Fuck.
00:02:58Yeah, I can't get sick.
00:02:59Because it's bad.
00:03:00I was on like breathing treatments and everything.
00:03:03Jesus.
00:03:03Yeah.
00:03:04You know, the last time I got sick, I got, the last time I got really sick, I got bronchitis.
00:03:10And, you know, I've been, well, on and off, I guess, but I've been sober for a while.
00:03:15And so like, I don't take drugs or drink or anything.
00:03:18So they, but I was so sick, they had to give me cough medicine with codeine, which gets you
00:03:23like a little bit high.
00:03:24And I remember taking that cough syrup and I was like, this is, oh, I feel good.
00:03:29And I had, yeah, and I hadn't like, you know, and this was in the stint of like, I was sober
00:03:34for seven years and then I fell off the rails and then I got, I got sober again.
00:03:38But because of that, no, it actually was something else that happens.
00:03:41Oh, totally.
00:03:42No, a hundred percent.
00:03:43I have to be super careful about anything that I take, like even like sleeping pills,
00:03:48like Ambien, anything that gets me high is very dangerous.
00:03:51Ambien.
00:03:51Oh my God.
00:03:52Yeah.
00:03:52Ambien is terrible.
00:03:54Ambien is, I used to like, there was a period of time that I thought it was okay for me
00:03:59to take Ambien at night because like, I just get a little loopy for like a little bit and
00:04:04then I'd fall asleep.
00:04:05But then I'd like go shopping online and I'd buy all this shit and I wouldn't remember.
00:04:09And then I'd get to my house next day and be like, what the fuck did I order?
00:04:12It's like, okay, I can't do this.
00:04:14This is not good.
00:04:15Yeah.
00:04:16I don't like that.
00:04:17I had to take it.
00:04:18Well, I didn't have to take it, but when I was younger, I couldn't sleep.
00:04:22So they gave me Ambien like at 14, it was terrible.
00:04:25Anyways, it deformed my face every time.
00:04:28What do you mean deformed it?
00:04:29Every time I looked in the mirror, my face was deformed.
00:04:33It was so scary.
00:04:34And it would go on for like, for a long time.
00:04:38Yeah.
00:04:39It can have crazy after effects.
00:04:40They've had cases where people have blacked out the next day.
00:04:44Like they've woken up the next day, you know, like felt fine, went to work and then blacked
00:04:49out in the middle of the day.
00:04:50Like, so it has really bizarre effects on different people.
00:04:53It affects different people differently.
00:04:55Yeah.
00:04:55I take melatonin, um, like over the counter, like vitamin stuff now.
00:05:00Benadryl.
00:05:01And usually, no, actually I've never tried Benadryl.
00:05:04I just take the, the melatonin stuff and that seems to work fine for me.
00:05:07I generally like, I sleep pretty well now cause like I have a pretty regimented like exercise
00:05:14and work and you know, like I try to keep a lot of, I try to keep a life balance.
00:05:19And so generally by the end of the day, I'm pretty tired and I can go to sleep pretty easily.
00:05:25So I sleep too much.
00:05:27Really?
00:05:27I think so.
00:05:28I used to never sleep and I think it's catching up with me.
00:05:31Do you sleep like, you mean like do you take naps and like sleep all day or do you just
00:05:36like sleep long, like you wake up late if you don't have to go to work?
00:05:41I sleep in really late, like 10 o'clock and I go to sleep like at 10.
00:05:46Oh, wow.
00:05:47Yeah.
00:05:47Wow.
00:05:48Well, I don't, I don't know.
00:05:49I mean, I feel like you can't get, I mean, they, they talk a lot about not getting enough
00:05:54sleep.
00:05:54I'm not so sure that you can get like too much.
00:05:58I mean, I guess you can, I don't know.
00:05:59I'm not a fucking doctor.
00:06:00What do I know?
00:06:01You can totally get too much sleep cause I feel sick when I wake up.
00:06:04Oh really?
00:06:05Like fatigued.
00:06:07Yeah.
00:06:07I try to set like, cause I love to take naps.
00:06:10So I try to set my alarm to make sure that I only take like a 30 minute nap.
00:06:14But the problem is, is that once I like lay down, my mind starts racing.
00:06:19I'm like, fuck, I only have 30 minutes to like fall asleep.
00:06:21And so then like, I can't fall asleep because I'm thinking about how I only have 30 minutes.
00:06:25Yeah.
00:06:25And so that generally doesn't work for me.
00:06:27But if I don't set an alarm, sometimes I'll nap for like two hours and then I'll wake up
00:06:31and I'll be so grumpy, like super grumpy, like pissed off and I'll be grumpy the rest
00:06:37of the day.
00:06:38So, wow, I know it's not good.
00:06:42Um, so you're fairly new to the industry, right?
00:06:46Like how long have you been in for?
00:06:48Almost three years.
00:06:49Okay.
00:06:49So that's wrong.
00:06:51I thought you'd been in for only like a year.
00:06:53No.
00:06:54You know why?
00:06:55I feel like probably because I only shot you for the first time like a year ago.
00:06:58And like, to me, that's like when you got, like you didn't exist before I shot you.
00:07:03Right, right, right.
00:07:05No, you, yeah, I shot for you about a year ago, right?
00:07:09Because it was for twisties.
00:07:10Yeah.
00:07:11Mm-hmm.
00:07:11So I feel like I was still fairly new because you know how you're kind of new until like
00:07:16two years.
00:07:17Yeah.
00:07:18Yeah.
00:07:18So.
00:07:19So how did you get into the industry?
00:07:21I was a stripper before and then I would send solo videos out to the people that would
00:07:28come in and I would just kind of just go to the bathroom and quickly shoot a solo
00:07:31video so I didn't want to, well, I actually wanted to get more people to come in to buy
00:07:38the solo videos because I was making a lot off of that so I was like I will shoot a boy
00:07:42girl or something and then, I don't know, in my mind it made sense that it was going
00:07:48to bring more people in to buy more solo videos.
00:07:52But it ended up just quitting stripping and then just shooting.
00:07:56Because it made more sense.
00:07:57Yeah.
00:07:58And then you suddenly saw this whole other avenue and this whole other career path that
00:08:01you could go down and you could make way more money.
00:08:04Less time.
00:08:05Yeah.
00:08:05Yeah.
00:08:05Because stripping is like a big hustle, isn't it?
00:08:08It is.
00:08:08And it's not easy because I did it for a long time but I mean there's bad days where you
00:08:15don't make anything.
00:08:16So you're there for nine hours on a Monday and you got the morning shift and it's snowy
00:08:24now and you don't make anything.
00:08:27So they don't pay you by the hour at all, you only live off tips or do they just pay
00:08:31you such a small amount by the hour?
00:08:33So I stripped in Ohio and they don't pay you hourly.
00:08:37In D.C. they pay you hourly.
00:08:40So at least you made money hourly in D.C.
00:08:43But it snows and the winters are really bad.
00:08:47So people just wouldn't make it out.
00:08:49Yeah.
00:08:50Or it's slow.
00:08:51You know, like I know Valentine's Day is a, I wouldn't make so much money on Valentine's
00:08:56Day.
00:08:56But there's certain days that you make a lot and then other days it's just bad.
00:09:00Yeah.
00:09:01So.
00:09:01And then you got to like hustle guys for lap dances.
00:09:04Yeah.
00:09:05D.C.
00:09:05There was no lap dances but it was fully nude with alcohol.
00:09:08So you only made your money up on stage and then Ohio you could do the lap dances.
00:09:13But I didn't like doing lap dances so I only did two lap dances my whole time stripping.
00:09:20Oh wow.
00:09:20I hated it so much.
00:09:21Was it just like you were too close to people that you didn't know and.
00:09:26One, the first time I gave a lap dance the guy like came in his pants in the first like
00:09:31couple seconds.
00:09:32So I got like really scared.
00:09:35And then.
00:09:36That's so gross.
00:09:37And then the second lap dance I gave the guy had really bad dandruff and there was
00:09:41those like those black lights or whatever and I could see it like on his shoulders and
00:09:46his head and stuff and I was like and like just all over his clothes I was like I don't
00:09:51think I can do this because it's gonna.
00:09:53Oh God.
00:09:54Like get on me.
00:09:55That's so gross.
00:09:57Oh my God that's so gross.
00:09:59Yeah.
00:09:59So I was like the lap dance stuff is just not for me.
00:10:03Yeah.
00:10:03Yeah.
00:10:04I can totally see that.
00:10:05But now so now that like you've got a big name and you're in the industry do you feature
00:10:10dance now?
00:10:11Not yet.
00:10:12I've been asked to a couple of times and I don't know I kind of have like bad flashbacks.
00:10:18I couldn't.
00:10:18I kind of want to.
00:10:19Dandruff man put you off.
00:10:20Yeah.
00:10:21Yeah.
00:10:21I want to like take a long break from.
00:10:23Yeah.
00:10:24From the stripping so because I know it's different and I know you probably make way
00:10:29more and you can sell all your stuff so I know I can make a decent amount.
00:10:34Yeah.
00:10:35And I also don't do any pole tricks.
00:10:37I only talk to people.
00:10:39Okay.
00:10:39Or I did only talk to people so I'm not a really good stripper.
00:10:44I've never been a you know.
00:10:46Yeah.
00:10:46I honestly like those girls who do pole tricks it's so impressive to me.
00:10:51I took a pole dancing class and I tried to do a couple of pole tricks and the girl like
00:10:59actually like had me try some advanced moves because I was strong from boxing.
00:11:03So she had me do like the upside down thing but like I was fucking terrified and then
00:11:08I had bruises all over me for like three weeks and I was like how do like I can't walk around
00:11:17like this.
00:11:17It looks like someone kicked my ass and she's like well after a while I guess you learn how
00:11:22to dance in a way that you get less bruises because you're not like flinging yourself around.
00:11:27You're more careful with the placement but I don't think your body becomes like resilient
00:11:32to bruises so like I would think that you would still get them and then you come back
00:11:37and you do like modeling jobs and then I mean at least for me I know if a girl shows up
00:11:41with bruises all over I'm like fuck.
00:11:44You know I got to try to cover it with makeup and then it gets all over the clothes and it
00:11:47gets all over the furniture and it gets all over the performer and it's just like fucking
00:11:52and it's body makeup so hard to do.
00:11:55Right.
00:11:55Especially for bruising.
00:11:56Yeah.
00:11:57Because I've had my tattoos covered and a couple of bruising it takes like hours.
00:12:01Yeah.
00:12:02To cover it.
00:12:02It's terrible.
00:12:03And it's just and also too because like generally with body makeup like with your face you're
00:12:08covering your entire face with foundation right so it's easy to match and blend but with
00:12:12bruises you generally don't want to cover the whole body with makeup.
00:12:15No because it looks bad.
00:12:16Yeah and also too it'll come off on everything.
00:12:18Yeah.
00:12:18So you've got to like try to blend like one spot with the rest of your natural skin which
00:12:23isn't even like foundation is it's just a fucking nightmare.
00:12:27Yeah.
00:12:27Yeah.
00:12:28It's really a pain in the ass.
00:12:29But you get used to the bruising kind of when you're stripping because my knees would
00:12:33because we would do a lot of floor work so my knees were always bruised and then after
00:12:38a while maybe I just wasn't like pushing down so hard on my knees or something but I didn't
00:12:45get as many bruises so.
00:12:47I wonder if your body does though get used to like I don't know if you bruise less after
00:12:52a while like it reacts less strongly to the impact.
00:12:56Maybe.
00:12:57Because that would make sense.
00:12:58I don't know.
00:12:58We should if there's a doctor listening that knows about this thing tell us because I
00:13:03am curious like yeah can your body get used to bruising.
00:13:05I think you get used to not squeezing the pull because you know like when you're doing
00:13:10the class and stuff didn't you feel like you were squeezing with your legs like super tight.
00:13:13Yeah because I didn't want to fall on my fucking head.
00:13:15Yeah so maybe after a while you just get like she said you get used to not having to squeeze
00:13:21so tight because you're comfortable.
00:13:23Yeah.
00:13:23But I've seen so many girls you know they're drinking and whatever and they fall they hit
00:13:29their head they do those suicide drops and.
00:13:32Yeah yeah yeah.
00:13:32There was one girl she would always drink and she would always do a suicide drop fall hit
00:13:37her head and she would wear a wig so the wig would bounce off every single time.
00:13:43And I'm like this girl is not going to be making money like you guys need to get rid
00:13:48of her.
00:13:49Oh my god.
00:13:51Yeah I'm sure that you saw some train wrecks probably when you were working.
00:13:56So many.
00:13:57I miss it sometimes.
00:13:59Just the people watching?
00:14:00Yeah yeah.
00:14:01Is there anybody that sticks out in your mind particularly that was like super entertaining
00:14:07besides the wig girl?
00:14:09Well she did a couple of things that were pretty entertaining.
00:14:11I don't know if she was always on Adderall or something but I remember one time we had
00:14:16a locker in the bathroom because she wanted to come out and kill everyone.
00:14:21Oh my god.
00:14:21And she thought everyone was laughing at her and we were laughing at her because she was
00:14:26on drugs but no one was laughing.
00:14:29I don't recall not like not even one person laughing so we had to lock her in the bathroom.
00:14:34Oh my god.
00:14:34The whole night and she was just like raging.
00:14:37That sounds like more than Adderall.
00:14:39Yeah.
00:14:40Like that sounds like she was on either something else or she's got some serious mental issues.
00:14:45Like speed or something.
00:14:48Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
00:14:48Wow that's crazy.
00:14:50I know.
00:14:51Oh my god.
00:14:52But there was one girl that every time she drank she would walk with her ankles turned
00:14:56in.
00:14:58Oh dear.
00:14:59Like Bambi.
00:15:00Yeah yeah yeah.
00:15:00Like there's actually a video online if you look it up.
00:15:04It's called like the Las Vegas walk or something like that and it's just girls, drunk girls
00:15:09and heels like trying to like walk down the casino and just like their legs buckling in
00:15:13and their ankles buckling in and it's just like I mean if you think about it and actually
00:15:18I'm wearing like platform shoes today and I was walking here you know and I'm sober right
00:15:23now and I was thinking to myself because I almost never wear heels because I'm just like
00:15:28when you get older you just like don't want to deal with it.
00:15:30It's just it's so uncomfortable.
00:15:33And I was thinking to myself and I'm like I'm having a hard time walking in these sober
00:15:38like who thinks it's a good idea to first of all who came up with the idea of high heels
00:15:43in the first place and then you decide that high heels are something dressy that you wear
00:15:47so you wear when you go out and then usually when you go out you go and you drink so basically
00:15:52like not only are we putting you know girls are putting things in their bodies that
00:15:57like make them inebriated make it harder for them to all their motor skills have gone
00:16:02out the window and then we're going to put them on like fucking little stilettos and it's
00:16:06like how do you not just eat shit all the time?
00:16:10I mean I've been pretty drunk before and I've never had so far any accidents when I'm wearing
00:16:17heels but I'm sure the day will come.
00:16:19Yeah I had a I had a really bad one once so I was in Vegas at the AVN show and I was
00:16:27drunk this is a long time ago and I was talking to we were at like some I think it was like
00:16:32a wicked private party or something like that and I was talking to this girl Bobby she was
00:16:37from Australia I can't remember her last name right now but anyways I was talking to her
00:16:41and right behind her was like a glass table with all these drinks on it and we were just
00:16:47standing blah blah blah and then like chatting I don't know what happened I just I didn't
00:16:52even move but just suddenly like my legs buckled under me or my ankle buckled yeah I just like
00:16:58gave out and I fell forward onto her and we both crashed backwards into the table and shattered
00:17:04the table and shattered all the drinks it was like this huge like and I wasn't even moving.
00:17:11Were you hurt like cut up after that?
00:17:13No neither of us were.
00:17:14That's good at least.
00:17:15I know I actually couldn't fucking believe it it could have been so bad but she had like
00:17:21a couple of bruises but yeah I know I was I felt really bad.
00:17:26I've done some pretty nothing like that I've just done some pretty unnecessary stuff.
00:17:33Yeah when you were drinking?
00:17:35Yeah.
00:17:35I feel like everybody could probably say that.
00:17:38Yeah.
00:17:38I think that we've all had experiences that we've done things that we later on were like
00:17:43I could have just not done that.
00:17:45That would have been better if I had not done that.
00:17:47But it was funny at the time right?
00:17:49Yeah.
00:17:49It's funny at the time and just not just later not good.
00:17:54Not good.
00:17:56Oh wow.
00:17:56Okay so you were stripping and then you decided to try so what so this first boy girl scene
00:18:04that you did like how did that come about and where were you?
00:18:07So I had a sugar daddy here in California and his next door neighbor which I forget who
00:18:17he was but he used to be an adult so I was talking to him about it and he I was like so
00:18:22how do I go about it because I don't want to get myself you know like there's people
00:18:25that shoot porn but they're it's not really poor and they're you know shoot I don't know
00:18:31you like show up stuff I didn't want to you show up to like a hotel room and it's like
00:18:35one guy and like a camera on a tripod and you're like what you know what I mean yeah
00:18:40that's like it's like not a real production no so I wanted to do it correctly he told
00:18:44me that I should get an agent and then they'll make sure you know everyone's tested everyone's
00:18:51safe these are you know companies shoot for all this stuff so I applied to a couple
00:18:55agencies I went with ATMLA and then they flew me out because I was still in Ohio and well
00:19:05I was here and then I went back to Ohio because that's where I'm from so he was like when do
00:19:10you want to come out and I said whenever so he flew me out the next day yeah oh and I shot
00:19:15I bet he did he saw you I mean because you're really fucking cute and I get a lot of submissions
00:19:20of girls that want to be in porn all the time and if someone like you sent me your photos I'd be
00:19:25like yeah fuck yeah so like yeah of course he flew out the next day they called me because I applied
00:19:30online so they called me I was walking my dog they called me when I was still on my walk with my dog
00:19:37yeah and he's the only agency that took me interesting did the rest of them reject you they just didn't
00:19:44call you what what was their reason they didn't call me or they rejected me I had because I have
00:19:49really small boobs so they thought that I should get breast implants what isn't that insane that's
00:19:55so many people are like don't get and I've learned now that you know it's very 50 50 what people like
00:20:02yeah so I was very surprised that's insane because also too like you like being young and looking young
00:20:10I would think that I would imagine that it lasts for a while yeah you probably do a lot of like
00:20:15the quote-unquote teen stuff right yeah if you got breast implants you wouldn't be able to do that
00:20:19so like that's totally insane that anyone would give you that advice and then what I would be
00:20:23shooting MILF because then MILF wouldn't really no I would be in that awkward stage yeah because now
00:20:30all porn is categorized by you're either a teen or you're a MILF there's like no in between
00:20:34yeah I mean there's a couple hot wife you know type of stuff yeah but I have friends that are
00:20:4020 something and you know they have breast implants and all this stuff and they're shooting MILF so I
00:20:46didn't want to really like I should have seen a couple of weeks ago where the teen was 23 and the MILF
00:20:55was 26 there was three years age difference between them yeah I was like this is fucking ridiculous or the
00:21:01best is when it's like a MILF and a son or you know whatever they're playing younger guy and
00:21:09the guy is you know older older than the actual girl yeah because these some of these guys are like
00:21:15you know like Tyler Nixon he's 30 but he looks young looks like 18 yeah 20 you know so and then
00:21:22some of these girls are like 25 26 but then they get you know what it is it makes you look older it's
00:21:28like number one the lip injections oh that is 100 percent makes you look older like almost I mean
00:21:35I know a couple girls that have gotten them where it's you haven't really like it's not that noticeable
00:21:41and it doesn't make you look older but a lot of these girls overdo it and that like always makes
00:21:45you look older always have you kissed someone with lip injections like a lot no because they're
00:21:51very hard really well first of all um I will say I'm like totally straight so I've like I never
00:21:58kissed girls oh you've never kissed a girl oh yeah I mean I have I had sex with well I had sex with
00:22:05two women um threesome or I just both were threesome well one was a hooker that doesn't count in
00:22:12Amsterdam so I don't think that we kissed because she wasn't into that oh you know what I mean I forgot
00:22:18that's how it goes yeah um and then the second one was actually a friend of a friend and we were
00:22:25at a Halloween party and I was super drunk so we started making out and then like she and then it
00:22:30ended up being a threesome like she dragged her boyfriend in and I was like oh I like wasn't really
00:22:34into her boyfriend but I was like fine I felt bad so I like sucked his dick because I was like oh
00:22:39you felt bad because I felt bad for him but isn't it the worst when you feel bad for like I'm just kidding
00:22:44that's a good segue into our next story but um yeah so I have never kissed anybody with lip
00:22:51injections because back when I did make out with I guess only one girl um that wasn't really popular
00:22:59because this was a long time ago and then I've only ever kissed guys and I have never kissed a guy
00:23:03with lip injections I hope not weird oh my gosh yeah but some of the yeah some of these girls are very
00:23:10dark yeah and then some of them get the implants so like they actually get I heard about that so
00:23:17it's like permanent and that looks just really bizarre to me it's because of Kylie Jenner she
00:23:21started the whole I know and actually I won't lie I feel like hers look okay um she needed them
00:23:28yeah kind of but some girl I don't know it works on some girls and it doesn't work on others
00:23:33and also too I've noticed some girls will look really great in photos and then you see them in real
00:23:38life and it looks weird yeah so it just it kind of depends well whatever you can get a lip flip
00:23:45without filling your lips out so you can just like flip your top lip up a little bit so it makes it
00:23:52look yeah a little bit more natural just saying yeah yeah no there's ways to do it which doesn't
00:23:58look like fucking ridiculous yeah um I just feel like a lot of people go over the top always so it's
00:24:04hard yeah it's hard and also too other people and you think it looks good and then you do it on
00:24:10yourself or you go to someone bad yeah and I think also too like a lot of and I don't think this just
00:24:15applies to adult models at all I think it applies to anybody who spends a lot of time in front of the
00:24:20camera and is judged very heavily on their looks they start to get that body dysmorphia where they start
00:24:26to see like all these things that are wrong with them I mean I know that that kind of happened to me
00:24:31a little bit so I used to have a show on playboy tv called um adult film school and I was the host of
00:24:36it and uh it ran for like three seasons and I wasn't used to seeing myself on video um because I'm used
00:24:43to being behind the camera and I found that it was actually not healthy for me I didn't because I
00:24:49started to really fixate on the way that I looked and um all I could do when I was watching these videos
00:24:56would think about like oh my god I need like a chin job I need like to get my lips done like I need
00:25:02like I just started to fixate on all these things that were wrong with me and um it started to fuck
00:25:07with my head kind of a lot and I'm glad that when the show when they canceled the show because I was
00:25:13just like this is not healthy for me yeah because I just all I did was like look at what was wrong
00:25:19with me and I think also too because I've trained my eye to look for like the flaws in a photo so
00:25:25that I can fix them and I can try to make the best looking product that I can but when you take that
00:25:30eye that's so attuned to perfection and you turn it inwards it's not a good thing no I kind of had
00:25:36the opposite happen to me because I feel like there's so many bad pictures of me out there that I was
00:25:41like oh screw it if I look like shit one more time it's not gonna matter yeah instead of you know
00:25:47trying to fix yeah everything well the thing is is that like for you as a model you don't have a lot
00:25:52of control over the final yeah look you know that's up to the photographer um but for me as the
00:25:58photographer that's my job is to make the images look great um so I had kind of trained my eye to you
00:26:05know look at pictures in a certain way and then when I started to look at myself in that way I was like
00:26:10so yeah I just didn't well no more of that no more of that even like watching myself and video on
00:26:17this podcast a lot of times I'm like oh god because it's like profile it has to I hate my profile
00:26:21it has to be profile you like it just you know yeah because I don't like my jawline so like when I
00:26:28look at it what's wrong with your jawline it's like I don't really have one
00:26:30well I have a bunch and I used to like always I know but see I think it's really cute I think you're
00:26:40adorable and I think like there's nothing wrong with you but you know we're our own worst critic
00:26:45yeah and I'm sure that people look at me and think I'm fine and like I think you're fine
00:26:50thank you and feel like she looks great there's nothing wrong with her but I could sit here
00:26:54like for an hour and tell you like all the things wrong with like my face and my body but I guess
00:26:58just don't look in the mirror anymore yeah just I just not pay any attention to my look
00:27:04don't brush my hair don't take a shower don't put on makeup just it doesn't matter
00:27:09she's going all natural yeah you know it's funny my mom always says because you know my mom used to
00:27:16be a model um and she always says the only good thing about getting old is that along with your
00:27:20looks your eyesight goes so you can't really see yourself in the mirror very well so you don't
00:27:24really notice how old you've gotten well hey so maybe I should yeah maybe I should just stop wearing
00:27:31my contacts yeah and my glasses just so I can't see myself oh um okay so you were back to you um
00:27:41you're with mark at atmla so what was your first scene that you did I did a scene for hustler okay
00:27:48it's a boy girl okay um yeah so I just did like a it was kind of you know I don't know if a scene
00:27:59ever came out because the guy had pre-popped in um what is it with you and making guys come
00:28:06immediately in blowjob oh jesus yeah so yeah he had pre-popped in blowjob and um
00:28:17it just you know it went down from there he got it back up but he kept pre-popping like he kept
00:28:25how many times did he come like three times oh my fucking god and I was just like you know and they
00:28:31kept you know once you know the crew's like cheering you all like you're doing so good like
00:28:36telling me that I'm doing good and I'm just sitting there and you know this guy is pre-popping I know
00:28:41it's not clearly the guy thought you were doing good too because yeah right him come no I was
00:28:47terrible because I didn't give a um a blowjob until my first scene wait so in your life yeah my
00:28:54whole entire life so your first blowjob was in a scene yeah that's crazy yeah so that scene never
00:29:01really I still haven't seen that scene and honestly I don't think they're going to be able to like edit
00:29:06the pieces together because it just it was not good yeah and then I shot another scene for net cam
00:29:14video girls or net video girls or something like that that was even worse because oh my god my first
00:29:21couple scenes are so terrible because I didn't know how to give a blowjob and they were like you know
00:29:29like get on your knees well I was like I thought that that meant getting to doggy so I got around and
00:29:35faced like away from the guy and they're like what the you know like what are you doing I'm like I
00:29:40don't know can someone just please tell me you know we're going into blowjob or you know something
00:29:46because this is not going so well wow but they like the scene that scene got viewed like a million
00:29:53times in two weeks or something holy shit but I looked so bad so probably honestly I mean there's
00:30:01there is a kind of um there is an audience that likes to see girls that are like new and don't
00:30:10really know what they're doing and that kind of thing so you might have appealed to that but also
00:30:13to your super super cute and you're brand new so that also makes sense I think it was because I
00:30:19truly didn't like I wasn't faking that I didn't know what I was doing yeah and it was one of those
00:30:23casting couch things so right I mean even though it wasn't a real casting couch like I wasn't getting
00:30:29tricked in to do anything I still like didn't know it was kind of real yeah so you know I just I think
00:30:37it ended well ish but not yeah that's so funny so like how many scenes did you have to do until you
00:30:44like finally figured out how to like give a blowjob I was I have a really good friend and he he shot a
00:30:51lot of my first couple of scenes and he was like what like you are so bad at blowjobs and I'm like
00:30:56I don't know what I'm doing like I understand that you're supposed to suck on it but like you
00:31:03know like how is that yeah yeah so it took me it took me a while to you know I mean
00:31:12it took me a long time to you know get good I was gonna say did he offer to you like let you
00:31:20practice on him he's like let me help you Elsa out of the goodness of my own heart I'm gonna teach
00:31:26you how to give a blowjob and we're just gonna keep practicing until you know what you're doing
00:31:30Mick shot my third scene McBlue McBlue for zero tolerance and I remember because I had never been
00:31:38with a guy that was uncut and I was like shit I'm gonna like rip his foreskin off because I don't know
00:31:43what I'm doing so I like looked at him and I was like hey I don't know how to like suck your dick
00:31:49so he sat there and he showed me how to so that was sweet I guess and now he makes a really nice guy
00:31:56yeah and now he compliments my blowjobs and tells me that I'm that I'm really good at them so but it
00:32:02took some time to really that's amazing research too I just like looked up you know blowjob scenes and
00:32:09whatever and I just paid attention to what they were doing because I didn't understand that whole
00:32:13spit situation yeah because in my mind that didn't really make sense yeah yeah have a lot of spit
00:32:19going on and whatever I remember I've learned a lot about sex from the adult entertainment industry
00:32:24myself and I remember um watching I think was Taylor or Taylor Rain scene like we were while we were
00:32:31shooting it and she was getting like the cock to gag the back of her throat because there when you when
00:32:37you gag on a cock it brings up like this phlegmy kind of spit that's like at the back of your throat
00:32:41and it's a better lubricant than just your regular spit and it kind of like gets like more fluid going
00:32:47in your mouth so you're able to lubricate the penis more and so you're able to give like a sloppier
00:32:52blowjob and we all know that sloppier blowjobs are better blowjobs so I remember like learning that
00:32:57from porn and being like oh okay that makes sense and then like practicing that at home myself and now I'm
00:33:03like now I'm a pro yeah now you're like gagging all the time yeah yeah yeah but now I don't really
00:33:09have much of a I'm not a good deep throater but now I my gag reflex isn't there anymore just because
00:33:15it's just not and well you practice and you learn to open your throat yeah yeah I think I need to get
00:33:21my tonsils taken out though because the back of my throat is really square because I can only like
00:33:27deep throat in certain positions and I try to like really open it up but it's just like square
00:33:33yeah so you need to like I would love that if you just went to a doctor you're like hey I need to get
00:33:38my tonsils out because I've been trying deep throat very well so I've been trying to get strep a couple
00:33:43more times just so because they'll take it out if you get strep a lot so I'm trying to do it well just
00:33:49go to the avn show a couple more times and I'm sure that you'll end up getting strep throat and then you
00:33:54have an excuse to get your tonsils out and then you can finally win that best blowjob scene that I
00:33:59know you've been after that'd be crazy if I won a best oral yeah after sucking so badly think
00:34:07sucking yeah oh the jokes are just forever oh my god um wow that's hilarious you know it surprises me
00:34:18it's interesting how people can come into the porn industry and actually learn about them and like
00:34:24how it can be this place where you can learn so much about sex and so much about yourself and kind
00:34:29of do it in a safe environment I remember Nicole Aniston told me that she had never masturbated
00:34:33before she'd done porn and so like she really learned about herself in porn and also Akira said the same
00:34:39thing so it really never masturbated no that she just didn't like know what she liked in porn she
00:34:45didn't know that she liked being submissive she didn't know like what she liked and she learned so
00:34:50much about herself in porn because it's you know it's kind of like a safe environment you're you
00:34:56know with people that you trust for the most part usually you work with like a lot of the same guys
00:35:00um you know it's a small community and you can really like explore what you like and what you don't
00:35:05like and you're free to say yes or no to certain things and there's a lot of communication that happens
00:35:12about sex and porn that doesn't happen in real life you know because like for me before I started
00:35:17and if they're performers that haven't worked together be like okay tell each other your do's
00:35:22and your don'ts like I like being slapped in the face I don't like being slapped in the face don't
00:35:26choke me don't spit on me but I'm okay being spanked like whatever and then sometimes too you know I
00:35:32don't know if you ever do this but I'll tell girls like if they're kind of new or maybe um you know
00:35:37they don't know their their their uh counterparts so well I'll be like you know what you can do is you
00:35:42can kind of like tap them on the thigh or something or the camera can't see it if they're going too
00:35:47hard or something like that that's what I was taught they'll know to slow down yeah yeah when
00:35:51I first got in they they uh you kind of I don't know like guys should be able to read your body
00:35:56language so if I'm like you know yeah something and I'm tapping you then yeah you know they usually
00:36:04and if not then you just like kind of scoot away yeah or you can back to you know yeah or you can
00:36:10call cut you can be like hey hold on a second but it's just interesting because we never do that
00:36:14in our real life you know like when you start having sex with someone you don't sit down and
00:36:19say like okay this is what I'm okay with this is what I'm not okay with and I mean granted that's
00:36:23kind of an awkward conversation to have with somebody and it kind of maybe kills the romance but there's
00:36:28something that's really great about that because then it can allow for a much more comfortable
00:36:33sexual experience because everybody's different you know what I mean and like everybody likes
00:36:37different things and um I don't know sometimes I just wish that we could communicate better in
00:36:44real life like we do in porn there's something to be said for that because I I mean I used to never
00:36:50give blow jobs I was always in cowgirl like I used to just like this is how I would have sex go in
00:36:57no foreplay get on top and then done like yeah no switching around and yeah yeah and actual fun and
00:37:06have you learned like that there's a certain position or a certain thing that you like that
00:37:11you didn't know before you got into porn yeah I used to never do spoon or like I love to lay on my
00:37:16stomach so what is that lazy doggy yeah that's my favorite so but you learn that from being in porn
00:37:23because you had never really done that position before yeah yeah definitely but I always switch my
00:37:27favorite position I guess interesting before I used to like doggy you know I'm you know I'm not so
00:37:34much a doggy fan like I don't know every day it's something new that I like yeah oh spoon's my favorite
00:37:42position today cowgirl is or yeah the only thing that you definitely at least for me I never did in my
00:37:49personal life was reverse oh god every girl hates reverse cowgirl I don't because it's just basically
00:37:56like you have to just do squats it's so it's like so uncomfortable oh my god yeah it's so weird to like
00:38:02flip around and then like squat and then the person's just laying down and you yeah you know do you look
00:38:08back at the person because you can't really because the camera's right there so they want to see your face
00:38:14and it's literally disconnected yeah literally reverse cowgirl was created for porn it's so that
00:38:19you can show your body off to the viewer like nobody I feel like in real life really does that like
00:38:25scissoring but you know in lesbian scenes like no like real girls actually scissor you don't think
00:38:30I don't think so I'm going to ask a true true lesbian I've talked to a lot of lesbians they don't
00:38:35pretty much everyone has said that they don't scissor I'm sure there's look there's exceptions to
00:38:39everything but across the board most girls are like no dude that's fucking stupid maybe with a
00:38:46toy if you put like Hitachi yeah yeah yeah that would be different I think but just the plain old
00:38:52scissoring it's usually like not no not a thing people are not into it the porn you know fantasy or
00:38:59whatever so um so one of the reasons I wanted to have you on here was not just because you're
00:39:07so adorable and cute and um I've had a couple people request you um but I remember the last
00:39:14time we shot I was in a super grumpy mood which apparently I hid really well according to you
00:39:19yeah but um you told me this story that had me like crying with laughter and um it actually like
00:39:27seriously made my day because it was such a good story and it was so funny and I remember like after
00:39:32you told me the story and we started shooting and I kept like giggling about it like I just couldn't
00:39:36like stop thinking about it so um can you tell our audience this uh this story and this is a great
00:39:43behind the scenes story because this is a very unusual occurrence and this is just a great example
00:39:49of like the weird shit that happens on set sometimes I tend to have not bad experiences but I tend to
00:39:54have weird experiences on set because I don't think out of you know a lot of people in the industry I've had
00:40:01quite a few like just awkward type of situations but I was on set and it was out in Las Vegas so
00:40:09usually when you shoot in Las Vegas you get on like a 6 37 a.m flight so it's early super early you're up
00:40:17at three you know you're in a bad mood yeah so I land and then I was doing a boy girl girl girl
00:40:25three girls mm-hmm yeah I think I said that right anyways the male talent he was very cocky and he
00:40:34came in and the first thing he says to us is you guys are gonna get my dick hard today which I mean
00:40:42you're like yeah that's the point right I've never really had you like if a guy needs extra help or
00:40:48whatever you know like in to get in the mood like whatever but I've never had someone like come up and
00:40:52like say that you know it's kind of just already you just already are gonna get the person hard
00:40:58because you don't have sex so whatever so I was turned off I was like no I'm not going to do that
00:41:04for you do you think that did it sound like he said that in a way of like to prove he did it to like
00:41:10prove a point like he said that he was tired because he got on the 11 o'clock flight and since he
00:41:17was tired that he didn't want to work he didn't want to jack himself off to get himself hard so
00:41:22we were gonna after we were already exhausted too we're gonna sit on our knees and we're gonna get
00:41:27work overtime to get him hard because he felt like he was more tired than us oh okay okay so that was
00:41:33already that's already like kind of a shitty attitude to come in with right yeah it just does not turn
00:41:38you on you know to like hear stuff like that yeah but the two other girls were new and I was just
00:41:43like which I was kind of new to but I was like no you know I'm not doing that sorry bye then
00:41:51we're doing like intro and you know the dialogue and stuff and he kept coming in even though it
00:41:57wasn't part of his like he wasn't supposed to be in the scene and getting his dick sucked by the two
00:42:03other girls so I'm like hey stop doing that because you're gonna pre-pop and I was always taught that
00:42:09you're not sucking someone's dick three hours before the actual scene because they're get too
00:42:14aroused and the scene's over in five minutes I've had a lot of pre-pop and apparently yes you've had
00:42:20a lot of experience yeah and I don't want to do it today I'm like everyone's tired kept coming in you
00:42:26know I just ignored it then we go and like wait okay so when would he come in to get his dick sucked
00:42:32because you guys are doing like dialogue so like when they're like repoing the cameras or something
00:42:36yes yes you just walk in I'd be so fucking pissed if someone did that on my set I was in you know I
00:42:42feel like sometimes the the directors and stuff they don't want to say stuff to the male talent and
00:42:47like throw them off in a way so they absolutely true they kind of they ignore a lie you know until
00:42:53we say something or you know you bring it up but it was a vr so you know there's a lot of like
00:42:59switching the cameras around and whatever so they would go to switch the cameras around he would
00:43:03run in and then like try to get his dick sucked and then run away and then I'm like it has nothing
00:43:07to do with you like please just you know it's just five minutes like running in seriously getting
00:43:13his dick sucked running out of the set like a little fucking cartoon character it was so weird to me
00:43:18so then we go to do the actual sex scene and I get in first position I do two literally two pumps
00:43:27and he comes inside of me but when he's coming he's screaming like ah you know like panicking as
00:43:36he's and I'm like what is going on here like I'm so so I'm like squatting over top of it I'm like
00:43:42wait what you know like he's like oh shit yeah he was like screaming I'm like what's going on you
00:43:49know so then I quick it off and he's like you know there's like come everywhere and whatever
00:43:54and I'm like oh my god so my heart like sank because I was like this is gonna be such a long
00:44:01day because we couldn't even get two pumps and so then he's like you know panicking and he's asking
00:44:08the director did I do good did I do good and he's like no you didn't you know you pre-pop you came
00:44:13after two pumps you did not do good yeah so then we go try to shoot some more and he's soft because he
00:44:19already came right then he screams at me goes Elsa I'm looking at you to get my dick hard and like
00:44:25you're not getting my dick hard and blaming me that he's pre-pop so I'm like I freak out right
00:44:32and I'm like go to the bathroom go fix yourself you know like and I don't usually this is the only
00:44:38time I've had to like talk to a talent like this but I was so pissed because I was right yeah so I'm
00:44:43like go to the bathroom go fix yourself don't talk to me like that don't talk to anyone else like
00:44:48that just because you fucked up yeah you were the one who fucked up apologize to everyone yeah
00:44:53running in and getting your dick sucked during the dialogue he fucked up and I told you know and I
00:44:58was kind of mad at the other girls because like if you would have just like acknowledged what I said
00:45:02you know everyone's like yeah behind now anyway so he's crying like crying like crying you know like
00:45:12crying crying like she's like oh she's yelling at me he's like goes into like a corner right but we're
00:45:20all in the living room so I'm just laying on the floor you know minding my own business and I'm like
00:45:25hearing him cry and then I get like on I hear I look over and you know he has his phone on speaker
00:45:32phone on speaker phone it was his mom and his dad on a three-way call she's yelling at me and I you
00:45:44know I can't get my dick car and she is you know she screamed at me so I'm like oh my god like my
00:45:52fucking vagina is so dry right now like how am I supposed to get through this day and then there's
00:45:59a girl like she crawls over to him trying to suck his dick as he's shaking in the corner crying to his
00:46:06mom and getting his dick sucked and then his mom's like don't listen to her son you can get your dick
00:46:11hard you it was so disgusting and I'm just sitting there and I'm looking around you know like oh wow this
00:46:21is really what's happening that's so insane it was so stressful
00:46:28be there I mean like so I mean you know I have a I mean fuck do my parents work in the porn industry
00:46:37and I feel like I have some pretty open conversations with them but that would never happen you would
00:46:43never while you're trying to get your yeah you would never call your parents for like encouragement
00:46:48right yeah okay okay cool I just want to make sure that like everyone you know thought the same
00:46:54because it was really awkward for me so did he eventually get his dick hard not really we basically
00:47:01had to do like a soft core vr scene oh my god so it was a struggle and then he ended up
00:47:08like I don't know if he like pissed on our faces for the path or he you know because he like came when he
00:47:17was soft and it was clear so I think anyways it was just like a really like awkward you know day and
00:47:25yeah okay okay wait a minute so so he had so the cum shot he was soft and it was and it seemed like it
00:47:34was urine because it was clear and like not clear and like wet yeah like like not like like a thicker it
00:47:41wasn't I mean obviously you know what cum looks like yeah right so you think that maybe he just peed on
00:47:45you guys because he couldn't come yeah because he couldn't get any cum he's like fuck it I'll just
00:47:53piss on him yeah nobody's gonna know the difference it was and then we were trying to like do you know
00:47:58before that we were trying to do the sex scene and he would get hard for like two seconds right but
00:48:03then I was so grossed out that literally like my vagina was like just shutting like shutting down
00:48:09yeah it was like er you know like no and I'm trying to like not clench down because I don't know
00:48:17if you ever get that like if you don't want to like necessarily have sex with someone yeah I mean
00:48:23I was married so I can relate yeah so your vagina like it will close up almost yeah yeah so that's
00:48:31what mine was doing oh my god that's amazing and then okay so after that you put them on your no list
00:48:38right I did and didn't he keep harassing your agent yeah he kept asking my agent if he was still
00:48:45because I I love the time sometimes you don't get you know who you're working with or you know guys
00:48:50can replace other guys so yeah sometimes you don't know who you're working with until the night before
00:48:54right but he I won't I won't work with him yeah so sometimes I'll get my information and it's him
00:49:00I'm like oh like can you guys find someone new so he was losing a lot of work and we ended up
00:49:05getting booked a lot together I just won't do it so I think by him calling my agent and trying to get
00:49:12me to get him off my no list you know yeah there's a way for him to because he was like we need to get
00:49:17past this whole no list situation and I was like no we don't no we don't I don't want to like and you
00:49:25said that you've heard that he's done the same kind of thing with other talent right yes I heard they
00:49:29did on a couple because I brought it up to a couple other people and they knew exactly who I was
00:49:33talking about and he did similar stuff like called his parents called his parents yes yeah that is so
00:49:42weird and then the one girl because I guess she was friends with him she was like you know like he
00:49:48has really bad anxiety and anxiety is like not funny right but if you have that bad anxiety that
00:49:56you're crying and shaking in the corner like I just feel like you should be on something to or maybe
00:50:02regulate it or not do in front of the camera isn't the right job for you right because this is not
00:50:08like this job is not for everybody and especially for male talent it's really difficult like it is
00:50:14there's very few guys that can perform this job and do it well on a consistent basis and that's why
00:50:18like there's a very small pool of male talent that's like top tier male talent that's why you see a lot
00:50:25that work every day and that work every day that's why you see a lot of times like you know avian and
00:50:29exp is like male performer of the year a lot of times it's the same dudes because like it's a very you
00:50:34know you know us girls like really all we need to do is like open our legs and like squirt some lube
00:50:39down there and then we're good but like the guys actually have to perform they have to get their dick
00:50:44hard and under all kinds of stressful situations maybe it's cold out maybe you don't feel well maybe
00:50:51you're not vibing with the girl whatever it may be so you know for the guys they really have to be
00:50:55able to get themselves into like this headspace where they can they can do this on a regular basis
00:51:00and there's very few people that can do that so you know i think like as a guy if you can't make it
00:51:07in this business i don't think that you should take that you know to mean that you're even a bad
00:51:13lover you know under normal situations or that you're not worthy or you're a bad person whatever
00:51:18it's just like it's a very specific job that only very specific people can do and um most guys can't
00:51:27do it like 99 of guys 99.999% of guys yeah oh my god guys totally think they can like again my show
00:51:37adult film school so the whole premise of the show was that we took amateur couples that had never ever
00:51:42had sex on camera before and we shot them in like this dream sex scene that they would come up with
00:51:47right so these guys would come to set and they would be all cocky and they'd be like yeah i'm
00:51:53totally gonna fuck the shit out of my wife or my girlfriend like you know because we have sex all
00:51:59the time at home and for three i love when they're like i can fuck for hours straight i'm like yeah no
00:52:05that's not cool on yeah set because everyone has like a time but it's it's not even like and the
00:52:12thing is is that it's it's a different environment and when you're on set and you've got all these
00:52:17people looking at you and all these people and you you feel the weight of the expectations of the
00:52:22people in the room on you because you know usually we're shooting at a location that um is charging
00:52:27by the hour right everybody wants to fucking go home you know they want to do the job they want
00:52:32to go home they don't want to be on set all day and like all the pressure is literally on you as the
00:52:37guy not only to be able to perform well keep your dick hard stop and start stop and start open up
00:52:43work under unfavorable conditions but you also have to be able to come on cue yeah that's what i'm saying
00:52:48not two hours because i think yeah so many people i talk to you they're like yeah i couldn't fuck you
00:52:53know or i can come multiple times i'm like it's all about being able to do it under direction yeah yeah
00:53:00so it's um so when i did this show like these guys at the beginning they'd be like yeah yeah i can
00:53:05totally do this and then i you know like 85 fail rate like just could not do it and then just to
00:53:12see like how humiliated they would become during the process because we'd have to keep stopping it
00:53:18was it was awful like it made me feel really bad for them yeah because i was just like you know and
00:53:23i would always like i'd have to have this talk with them before the scene and be like look just so
00:53:27you know if you're not able to perform it's okay that's okay that happens to a lot of guys and we
00:53:33can always shoot like a soft core scene you know and we'll turn it into that they're like yeah no
00:53:37i'll be fine no problem like okay right and a lot of times they wouldn't be able to and we'd have to
00:53:43shoot this soft core scene but it was kind of it was humiliating for them and their girlfriends you
00:53:49could see or their girlfriends or their wives would be actively frustrated because like we're
00:53:53we i need to make them to pretend like they're having hot sex and you know that all he's doing
00:53:58is like flapping his soft penis against her butt you know what i mean and it's just like it's hard
00:54:03yeah i mean i know listed because i was married to a performer for like three months and i know listed
00:54:10my own husband yeah because we just couldn't have on set yeah sex yeah it's different at home all the
00:54:19time but yeah definitely not in front of the camera together because it just it's not the same it's not
00:54:25the same yeah i mean i had bridget b on the podcast and her husband is marcus dupree right who just won
00:54:30male performer of the year and you know i've never actually that's not true i did shoot with him for
00:54:35joanna angel's gangbang but you've probably worked with him yeah a couple of times yeah and he's like
00:54:39a solid performer and you know he's he's apparently from what i've heard he's great um but bridget won't
00:54:45work with him in a scene and bridget's awesome she's an incredible performer and she won't work with
00:54:51him in a scene because she just said that like they just don't work well together on set they have
00:54:55different styles and it doesn't work for them yeah so you know that makes sense got you know whoever
00:55:00you're with he's trying to do the stuff that you know at home that you usually do and it's just not
00:55:05yeah it's not cool all the time yeah i was on set once and the male performer asked me if i wanted to
00:55:14go on a date with him i was like oh sorry i'm married like i you know we can have fun and he
00:55:22refused he went home because he felt like i did not want to have a you know a vibe with him or i
00:55:31didn't want to try to be his girlfriend okay wait so he asked you out on a date before your scene
00:55:38so we do like we did a lot of because a part of the scene was you had to do a lot of the blowjob
00:55:45outside and we were losing light so we did that blowjob part and the intro stuff so we already did
00:55:50like some sex stuff outside and we go upstairs to do the sex sales and as we're going up he was like
00:55:56you want to go out on a date with me and i was like no you know i'm married but thanks for the offer
00:56:03he was like what you're married you know how are you going to be married and then it was so weird
00:56:09to me i was like what are you talking about so like 80 of the people are in a relationship i actually
00:56:14barely know anyone that's not in a relationship in the industry so i don't want to go on a date
00:56:20with you and that's super inappropriate for you to ask me and try to pressure me into going on a
00:56:24date with you yeah so we're going upstairs and then he talks to the director he's like i can't do it
00:56:29because she's refusing to have a connection i'm like what do you want for me to have a connection
00:56:33with you because i don't know you that well so tell me what your favorite things are you know you
00:56:38want to fist up your ass something to get the date going you know i will do just about anything for you
00:56:44yeah so he's like we go to do the sex sales and i'm trying to like get him hard he's like
00:56:49hitting my hand off you know so i'm not getting him hard and stuff so i'm like all right what do you
00:56:56want he's like i just i need to go into the other room so he packs his stuff and acts like he's on a
00:57:01smoke break but leaves and then also tweets that you know i refuse to have a connection with him and
00:57:08that i suck jesus yeah yeah god damn it i'll be and i was so my feelings were hurt that he didn't
00:57:18want to have sex with me i'm like you could we could just have sex yeah we you know but he wanted
00:57:23to like date date yeah isn't it weird that's super random have sex and paid for it and you don't want
00:57:30to do that yeah you'd rather go on on that date because i'm like so that's so weird to me yeah
00:57:37because most guys only want to take you on a date so they can have sex with you and then like that's
00:57:41the only reason they want to pay for things but you're actually getting paid to have sex with her
00:57:45so like you get to do it backwards like you don't have to do the whole date thing
00:57:49like i could not get past it that is crazy he must have obviously just felt like super rejected
00:57:55and he has such a fragile ego that yeah he like couldn't do the scene after that something
00:58:00so did the director bring in somebody else no because it was already so late in the day and we needed
00:58:06sunlight and we flew out to i have bad luck with las vegas so oh my god if i was that director i would
00:58:13have fucking lost yeah but you know how las vegas um i don't know if you shoot there but there's not
00:58:19that many never you would have to fly someone out yeah to shoot there yeah yeah no i hate vegas
00:58:25no offense to people who live in vegas it's not my thing there's not that many talents out there
00:58:29there's quite a few but they're all usually working or you know so that's like so much money that these
00:58:34people spent on the scene and everybody to fly out there and this guy had to take wardrobe because
00:58:39the wardrobe everything was provided that day location you know and this guy got his ego hurt
00:58:46because you wouldn't go on a date with him and he just basically cost that company thousands and
00:58:52thousands and thousands of dollars yes and you're the one who sucks yeah you were married and you
00:58:57wouldn't go on a date yes jesus fucking christ isn't that crazy that's insane yeah fuck that guy i have
00:59:05yeah sometimes i have some bad luck with it's it's kind of inevitable i mean everybody's got their
00:59:11bad days when you work with so many different people yeah you're gonna end up with with not so
00:59:15good ones but this is good you know i always like to hear these stories because because you'll tell me
00:59:20the names later we won't talk about right right because then i know i'm like i will not book these
00:59:24people because i do i do not want to put up with that bullshit that story he's not in anymore so
00:59:31yeah sounds like it obviously yeah you won't last long in this industry if you pull that bullshit
00:59:36because everybody talks no i was talking to prince not too long ago and he was saying how this was a
00:59:42long time ago but he had asked someone out on the date the girl that he was working with when he was
00:59:47new and she goes oh honey no one told you it doesn't work like that yeah we don't like date yeah
00:59:55around and you know yeah i mean maybe sometimes if you're both single but you know yeah yeah i
01:00:02remember when this one performer got into the industry um and he's still in and he's very very
01:00:08successful but he would always want to send the girls flowers afterwards because you think i know
01:00:14what i'm talking about because he thought like it was this grand romantic gesture and he's french
01:00:18i know exactly and i was like no they don't they don't actually want that they they just want to
01:00:25have sex with you and go home to their own lives and he was like so insistent at the beginning he's
01:00:29like no i want you know show my appreciation i'm like show your appreciation by keeping your dick hard
01:00:34and coming on time and letting everybody go home and be nice an hour and being nice like they don't
01:00:39want to get flowers from you afterwards like it's not about that and um he did he doesn't do that
01:00:44anymore um but yeah no he still does because i went to them not too long ago and he had brought
01:00:50me flowers and i okay i can't bring flowers home you know if i'm in a relationship i'm not going to
01:00:57bring flowers home from another guy like whether you whatever reason you're trying to yeah you know
01:01:04yeah so i was i uber and i was throwing them out the window and i didn't realize that he was behind
01:01:11and he was like he had texted me like you know what are you doing with the flowers i was like oh
01:01:23i'm throwing them back to you you know like i trained to here's your flowers oh my god yeah that
01:01:32is amazing wow but he still does he still does it he yeah i think he tries to like be you know you
01:01:39just don't need to bring flowers yeah you just don't he's a beautiful me a coffee or something
01:01:44if you want to you know bring yeah there you go i guess that's nice or whatever just bring your
01:01:50beautiful face your chiseled abs and your awesome dick yeah because he's got all of those things like
01:01:55right we don't need flowers from you no like you as yourself you are enough right just by yourself
01:02:01that's a very rare you know yeah yeah he's one of like the best looking guys in the industry
01:02:08he is yeah so he doesn't need to do extra stuff no he doesn't he doesn't oh my god that's funny
01:02:14well also thank you so much for coming on it was a pleasure that all the stories are just so great
01:02:21and wow you you've definitely had some experiences after only being in the industry for like three
01:02:27years so i can't wait to hear what not a year yeah i know i can not a year can't wait to hear what
01:02:33stories you're gonna have like 10 years from now jesus oh my gosh hopefully only positive
01:02:37so can you tell everybody where they can find you online if they want to look you up on social media
01:02:43so my uh twitter is elsa gene triple x and my instagram is elsa gene official and i do have a
01:02:52snapchat but it's usually just my dog so it's elsa x gene and i do some cooking videos on there
01:03:00but if all of you on there it's kind of boring but i don't know i feel like a lot of times guys
01:03:07really like that like personal glimpse into your life and to see what you are as a person as opposed
01:03:11to just like you know somebody in the sex scene so i find that guys tend to like that they love it
01:03:16they'll pay extra and everything just to you know see pictures of my dog so yeah okay i love dogs so
01:03:23i'll follow you on it oh how cute yeah she's terrible
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