Macedonia del Norte opta por alinearse con EE. UU. como "socio estratégico"

Name: Macedonia del Norte opta por alinearse con EE. UU. como "socio estratégico"
Uploaded: 2025-04-10T15:12:20+00:00
Duration: 12 min
Channel: euronews (en español)
Description: El ministro de Asuntos Exteriores de Macedonia del Norte, Tim&ccaron;o Mucunski, ha declarado a 'The Europe Conversation' de 'Euronews' que está dando prioridad a su asociación con Estados Unidos, al tiempo que sigue intentando ingresar en la UE.

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10/4/2025

El ministro de Asuntos Exteriores de Macedonia del Norte, Timčo Mucunski, ha declarado a 'The Europe Conversation' de 'Euronews' que está dando prioridad a su asociación con Estados Unidos, al tiempo que sigue intentando ingresar en la UE.

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02:18Muchas ciudades tienen una veto, así que, si te gusta o no, el tema de la violencia tiene que ser resolvido en alguna manera.

02:23¿Vale habrá una inclusión para la minoría de la minoría de la constitución de Norte Macedonia?

02:29El problema es mucho más que la inclusión de la minoría de la minoría de la minoría.

02:34Y voy a tratar de explicar esto en un nutshell.

02:37Primero, ¿quién tiene lo más que ganar de nuestro país de ser un miembro de un miembro de un miembro de un miembro de un miembro de un miembro?

02:41Of course, first, it's us, without a doubt, but secondary, it is the countries around us that are member states of the European Union,

02:48and here I mean Greece and Bulgaria directly.

02:52Now, in these more than 30 years of an EU path, we have made extremely difficult compromises, as I've mentioned many times before.

03:00We've changed our flag, we've changed our currency, we've changed our constitution several times, we've even changed the name of our country.

03:07All with the promise of a window of opportunity that we've been told existed, if we do these changes, for our path towards the European Union.

03:16And thus, the question and the dilemma that we pose to both EU institutions as well as the member states is,

03:23will this be the final compromise?

03:25Will we know that if these constitutional amendments are made, six months down the road, a year down the road,

03:32again there will not be a veto because of a bilateral issue.

03:36Why we pose this question, first of all, to protect our own national interests, to not allow issues related to language, history, identity,

03:44to engulf our EU accession process, but also at the end of the day to protect the credibility of European enlargement in the entire region,

03:53because there are malign actors out there who like to point the finger and say,

03:57do you really believe that the EU is honest in its intention for enlargement?

04:02Look at what they're doing to the Macedonians.

04:03And then we also had the Prespa Agreement, which resolved the issue around Greece,

04:07but we have heard in the past, or recently, some ministers refusing to use the name North Macedonia,

04:14which again will create problems and confrontations with Greece. Is that an issue still?

04:19I mean, if I speak personally, as an individual, and I remove myself from the position that I have,

04:25then I will never be able to say to you that I am happy with the Prespa Agreement,

04:28that I believe the Prespa Agreement is good, or that I believe the changing of the name of a nation is fair,

04:34especially in the 21st century.

04:36But at the end of the day, as foreign minister and as a lawyer,

04:40I understand that the principle of pacta sunt servanda,

04:44and that agreements must be kept, especially in international public law,

04:48is a fundamental principle.

04:49And in that sense, we are a nation that will respect its obligations,

04:55but also a nation that expects its partners, its neighbours in the region,

05:00to also respect obligations in these agreements that they've made towards us.

05:05Okay, because you mentioned there, pacta sunt servanda,

05:07agreements should be kept, and one of the issues that the EU has with North Macedonia

05:12and joining the EU is around the rule of law, independence of the judiciary,

05:16various types of corruption, and obviously that's hugely problematic

05:20because all EU member states will point to the deficiencies in the EU

05:24when they had the last bout of enlargement,

05:26particularly countries like Hungary, Slovakia, and so on.

05:30So, where is North Macedonia with making this, making greater progress on this?

05:35So, this is one of the key priorities of our government.

05:38Our government was formed less than a year ago,

05:40and it has taken very direct steps towards fighting corruption,

05:46both high-level corruption, but also corruption that exists in mid-level

05:50and low-level civil service, establishing a system of rule of law,

05:55but this is not something that we can do overnight.

05:57And I would once again reiterate, it is also a whole-of-society effort.

06:02It's not just about the executive delivering,

06:04but it's about a cultural change that has to happen within the judicial system.

06:09It's about bringing on board civil society and various different actors.

06:14And how long will that take?

06:15Because, I mean, this has been on the agenda for, as you mentioned, 20, 21 years.

06:19Regrettably, it's been on the agenda in rhetoric for maybe more than 30 years,

06:24but substantially very little has been done.

06:28This is a process where we need to establish clear timeframes.

06:33Many of these types of timeframes going into the micro and meso aspects of these issues

06:38have already been done for us with the help of the European Union and European Union experts.

06:43And then we need to start delivering, because this delivery is about government doing its job,

06:50but it's about creating this, as I said, cultural change within society,

06:54which helps stimulate investment, which helps stimulate entrepreneurship,

06:59which puts young people in a situation where they don't want to leave the country,

07:05because many young people are departing, not just because of economic reasons,

07:09but because of an infunctional system of governance,

07:12and also hopefully put our country in a situation where young people that are living abroad want to come back,

07:19invest in the country, build families in the country,

07:23take part in political activities in the country.

07:26I mean, this is a priority of our government.

07:27I want to move on to the NATO foreign ministers meeting you hear.

07:31First of all, can I ask you a little bit about Russian interference in North Macedonia?

07:35I mean, one of the reasons why enlargement needs to happen quickly, they say,

07:39is because the countries in the Western Balkans need to be brought into the EU,

07:42away from the Russian orbit.

07:43Is that something that you would agree with that narrative, that premise?

07:46I think enlargement needs to happen for many reasons.

07:50But one of these reasons, from a security perspective,

07:55is, of course, the malign Russian influence that has been existing in our region that is there.

08:01I sometimes like to very openly point out that Russian influence,

08:06especially in our region, comes very cheap, and they know how to utilize it.

08:10Is it through social media? Can you tell us a little bit about hybrid cyber attacks? What is it?

08:14It's a mix of all of the very conventional methods, if I can label them,

08:19that Russia does use, and that happens in our region as well.

08:23And does it impact young people's viewpoints? Does it impact political parties?

08:27What is the upshot for countries like North Macedonia?

08:32So I think, first of all, generally our society and our political establishment,

08:38going from government to opposition, is extremely pro-EU.

08:41And society wants to move forward towards EU membership.

08:47But one of the things that happens is when there's lack of clarity coming from the European Union

08:52and the member states, especially our issue as a prime example,

08:56then you will have Russian influence utilizing this to say,

09:01listen, the EU is not honest.

09:03It will never integrate the region.

09:05And if there's lack of delivery, credible delivery on the other side,

09:10then it's a battle that the pro-EU forces in our country have to wage

09:15with these various different spheres of influence that do exist and that will be utilized.

09:21I think one of the reasons why the EU needs to be very quick and expedient in its delivery

09:27to the entire region is to show that the clarity is there, the strategic vision is there.

09:34Can I ask you then, why did your country abstain on the UN resolution condemning Russian aggression in Ukraine?

09:41So our country, I like to point out, has three constants in its foreign policy.

09:46One of them is 100% alignment with the EU's common foreign and security policy.

09:52The second is our membership in NATO.

09:55And the third is our strategic partnership.

09:58We have a formal strategic partnership with the United States.

10:01In this situation, what I can say is that we have been one of the most consistent supporters of Ukraine.

10:07From the NATO member states, we are one of the biggest supporters per GDP per capita for Ukraine

10:13in terms of defense and security support.

10:16But in this current situation, because there was no alignment within the CFSP, within the European Union,

10:22we chose to vote aligned with our strategic partner, the United States,

10:27which means that we do support Ukraine, and we do support the necessity for protecting Ukraine's integrity

10:34and territorial sovereignty.

10:36But we also agree that there needs to be a path towards peace.

10:41So even that decision was in line with the very consistent foreign policy that we've had as a nation.

10:46How do you find, then, the negotiations so far, where it appears that very little concessions,

10:53actually no concessions, have been applied to Russia from the United States and several to Ukraine,

10:58whether it's their energy systems, whether they're critical minerals, whether it's about a ceasefire.

11:04I mean, how do you see the U.S. treatment of Ukraine vis-à-vis the negotiations?

11:08So the perception that I have is that Ukraine is on board with this process and is actively taking part in this process.

11:16And at the end of the day, Ukraine is a sovereign nation that must make decisions for itself.

11:22What I can say is that we, as a NATO member country, support the path towards peace.

11:27It seems very obvious right now that the United States has a path towards peace, which they believe is viable.

11:34And in that sense, considering that Ukraine is on board with this process,

11:38we absolutely support the process that is being led by the Trump administration,

11:43Secretary Rubio, as well as the whole team, in finding a peaceful solution as soon as possible.

11:49Okay. Foreign Minister Tim Chomachinsky of North Macedonia, thank you very much for joining us.

11:53Thank you very much for the invitation.

11:55Thank you so much.

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