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Between worlds: Young Muslim women in Germany
DW (English)
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3/29/2025
Miriam and Tua, two young Muslim women who grew up in Germany. They tell their very personal stories.
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00:00
So, a woman can't be a legend if she's wearing a headscarf?
00:16
Why not?
00:17
When I look at the women in my family, they're superheroes.
00:24
We've never had a headscarf-wearing Muslim superhero.
00:29
And if someone steals the idea, I'll flip out, I swear.
00:38
Many people think the headscarf or Islam has no place in Germany.
00:45
Go back to where you came from, they say.
00:47
Well, I've got a German mom.
00:50
Born and raised in Germany.
00:51
I am here.
00:52
And this is where I come from.
01:10
I'm Toal Fowal, Egyptian fire.
01:13
I'm a Muslim woman of my own volition, not oppressed.
01:18
I'm an actress.
01:21
The first of my kind.
01:23
I was born in Egypt and lived there until I was almost ten.
01:27
Then we moved to Germany, to Berlin city.
01:42
My faith plays a very big part in my life.
01:56
It's a guideline, helping me to be a good person.
02:04
I don't know many actors who pray while they're working.
02:09
They're afraid because they already come across as different and they don't want to
02:14
appear any more so.
02:16
They prefer to do it at home.
02:20
The fact that I still get fewer casting requests is because I'm the first actress with a headscarf.
02:27
It's not that I get any clear answers from casting directors or the people who make the
02:31
decisions, but it's definitely a case of, yes, okay, she won't remove her headscarf
02:37
or do any scenes involving kissing or sex.
02:41
I think that's totally unimportant, but that's the way it is.
02:44
You're immediately at a disadvantage.
02:54
I'm Miriam Zouhari.
02:56
I'm 28 years old, a single mother to an almost three-year-old son, and I've been wearing
03:00
the hijab for almost two years.
03:11
Religion wasn't really that important in my childhood and youth.
03:15
My dad's Moroccan and my mom's German, so I pretty much grew up with both religions.
03:27
I didn't have that much experience of Islam as a child, apart from whenever I saw my Moroccan
03:32
aunts and uncles.
03:37
My parents decided we should go our own way and pick the religion we identified with the
03:41
most.
03:48
Being pregnant was the main reason for me wanting to explore the issue more deeply because
03:52
I was thinking a lot about how I would raise my child.
03:55
I wanted to find out for myself what values I'd like to instill in my son.
04:00
How do I want to bring him up?
04:02
What kind of man should he become?
04:10
After my husband and I split up, that was the start of a new chapter for me.
04:14
And I thought, okay, that's what I want now.
04:17
I don't have to ask anyone anymore or ask if my husband thinks it's okay.
04:24
And so that was my first day.
04:26
I went out in a hijab for the first time.
04:30
It may sound strange, but I felt totally free.
04:32
It was so liberating for me.
04:48
I'm very glad I took the step when I did.
04:50
Not just the separation, but also wearing the hijab.
04:57
I'm very proud to have done it.
05:14
So this is the shisha bar, just for women.
05:18
Only women are allowed here over the age of 18, and I think it's just really nice because
05:23
it's a relaxed, safe space for women, where you don't have to watch out what you say.
05:29
A shisha bar you can walk into, and it doesn't feel like you're on a catwalk with everyone
05:33
staring.
05:34
You can just chill with your girls, and if you like, you can go a little bit wild, but
05:40
halal-style.
05:41
The stereotypical white German society sees a veiled woman as an oppressed woman, weak,
05:51
because she allows herself to be oppressed.
05:55
Within the Muslim community, you're untouchable, so to speak.
05:59
You can't make any mistakes.
06:01
You can only wear the headscarf a certain way.
06:05
But we're also living in a patriarchy.
06:07
So men can make mistakes, but women can't.
06:11
And me?
06:12
I'm too German for the Muslim community, too open.
06:15
And for the Germans, I'm too Muslim.
06:19
Have you all had a pedicure?
06:24
My feet aren't done, oh well.
06:31
She kept the headscarf idea a bit of a secret at first.
06:35
Initially she kept it to herself before more or less confronting us with it and said, well,
06:41
that's how it is now.
06:46
The people I know reacted positively.
06:51
There were questions from my friends and family.
06:54
Why had I decided to wear it, and whether I was sure?
06:57
But when I reassured them that I'm doing it out of conviction, that I'm totally sure,
07:04
they all said they would support me.
07:07
So the responses were positive.
07:13
As far as faith goes, you're Christians, I'm Muslim.
07:18
Then we've also got someone who doesn't really believe in anything.
07:21
But that never affected the friendship, or us as moms.
07:32
You were actually brought up with Islam, or more or less culturally forced to grow
07:36
up in an Islamic environment.
07:38
And then pretty much at the same time as I said I was wearing the headscarf, you said,
07:42
I'm going to have my children baptized.
07:45
Yeah, it's true.
07:53
And you?
07:56
Why are you here?
08:01
How could you allow all this?
08:10
The feeling that you're not doing enough in your job, that's what scares me the most.
08:15
Regardless of what you do, you win prizes.
08:18
One of the most important prizes in Germany, in your first ever role with no acting experience.
08:23
You're a natural.
08:25
They all say that.
08:26
But where are the jobs?
08:28
Can you still take someone who can't act that well and give them jobs because, I don't know,
08:34
you're so stubborn you can't imagine that you'll get more out of a woman with a headscarf
08:38
than just the headscarf?
08:58
In my close circle, there's really no one who's Muslim, who I could turn to.
09:03
Do you want more?
09:06
Is that enough?
09:09
For sure, it's difficult because you're completely alone with it.
09:13
In the morning you know you're the only one getting up so early to pray.
09:19
Or I'm the only one making sure we don't eat any pork.
09:23
Everyday things like that.
09:27
It makes me feel anxious sometimes.
09:34
All by yourself?
09:39
In Germany you're always somehow the foreigner.
09:42
And in Morocco, of course, you're always the German.
09:47
You can't speak the language and always need dad to translate.
09:51
In Germany we are seen as Mediterranean and in Morocco we are too white.
09:56
So where do we belong?
10:00
I feel more at home in Germany.
10:03
Life here is pretty secure.
10:12
Even in the worst case scenario, where he would suffer because he is a Muslim man, he
10:17
can't find a job or a circle of friends.
10:21
You're still never alone.
10:29
Are you a lion?
10:31
I'm a lion.
10:37
From the Muslim perspective, it's difficult.
10:41
Because it's assumed that if someone doesn't follow the Muslim faith, you won't be seeing
10:44
them in paradise.
10:47
That's why it's natural for me to want him to adopt my beliefs.
10:54
But considering his heritage and my faith, depending on what he chooses, he'll certainly
11:00
be confronted with problems at some point.
11:04
But I believe that he can still lead a really good life.
11:16
I don't see my future here.
11:20
Because I don't feel at ease here with my appearance, my heritage or my religion.
11:31
Because I can't imagine a future with children here, at any point.
11:43
Also because I can't imagine finding a suitable partner here.
11:50
Then where?
11:51
That's a good question.
11:53
Because there's racism and discrimination everywhere.
11:56
But I might go to London for a few years, initially.
12:00
Because I've been there and I had a feeling that things were better there.
12:05
He has done good.
12:06
He has done good.
12:07
Yeah.
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