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Chidambaram Vs. Sitharaman on Budget 2020
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4/18/2025
ICU and doctors: This Chidambaram-Sitharaman debate on the health of India’s economy did not cause any injuries.
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I think the patient has to be wheeled into the ICU.
00:04
Unfortunately, the patient is being kept out of the ICU
00:08
and incompetent doctors are now looking at the patient.
00:11
The former minister was very obsessed with calling us very incompetent doctors.
00:20
I will tell you who the incompetent doctors were.
00:30
The chief economic advisor of your government for four years says the economy is in an ICU.
00:48
I disagree.
00:50
I think the patient has to be wheeled into the ICU.
00:55
Unfortunately, the patient is being kept out of the ICU
00:59
and incompetent doctors are now looking at the patient.
01:02
Of course, you will not consult the opposition parties.
01:04
The former minister was very obsessed with calling us very incompetent doctors.
01:13
I will tell you who the incompetent doctors were.
01:17
What was the remedy offered in 2008-09, sir?
01:20
And what did it result in, sir?
01:23
We certainly don't want that.
01:25
So the twin balance sheet problem is something which we have inherited in 2014
01:31
and as a result of which a whole lot of issues have cropped up
01:35
for the health of public sector banks,
01:37
for the number of cronies who have run away from the country,
01:40
who we are trying to bring back.
01:42
So that twin balance sheet problem is not something which I would want to learn from
01:48
those very competent doctors.
01:51
NPAs ran into lakhs of crores
01:54
and of course the cronies have ran out of the country.
01:56
We are getting them all back.
01:58
That is another remedy offered during the 2008-09 crisis.
02:02
We certainly do not want to inherit or copy those remedies of competent doctors.
02:08
You will not even go across to Dr. Manmohan Singh and ask him,
02:12
listen, what do you have to say?
02:15
Minus thirty-six percent happened in 2012-13.
02:21
Literally, FDI ran out of this country between 2012-13, sir.
02:27
Minus thirty-six percent.
02:29
And this is competent doctors holding the economy together.
02:33
Every competent doctor that you identified and you appointed has left the country.
02:40
You made sure Dr. Raghuram Rajan left.
02:44
You made sure Dr. Arvind Subramaniam left.
02:48
You made sure Dr. Urjit Patel left.
02:51
You made sure Dr. Arvind Panagaria could not stay on longer.
02:55
A lot of assumptions were being put on us.
02:59
The government is predisposed in its attempt to be protectionist.
03:05
Predisposed against FDAs.
03:08
Predisposed about the strength of the Indian rupee.
03:11
So one thing I concede, sir.
03:13
We are certainly predisposed about one thing
03:16
and that is not to repeat the faulty remedies
03:20
which the UPA government had given in 2008-09 times when there was a crisis.
03:25
You have criminalized most laws
03:28
and you have given extraordinary powers to the officers.
03:31
They have come up with a list of thirty-seven laws which have to be decriminalized.
03:38
Everything in this country is criminal.
03:41
Now they are talking of charter.
03:43
Now you talk about a charter of rights of taxpayers.
03:47
Let me appeal to the Honorable Finance Minister.
03:49
We don't want a charter.
03:50
Just take away these extraordinary powers given to these guys.
03:54
Oh, harassment.
03:55
Harassment is happening.
03:58
Criminalization of, you know, the acts, IT acts and so on.
04:03
I'll just quote the example of one act, sir.
04:07
I'll just quote one example.
04:08
In 2014, I was a Minister of State and Finance.
04:12
Since then till today,
04:14
the number of amendments that 2013 Companies Act is going through,
04:20
you can ask anyone in this house, anyone here and there,
04:23
the amount of work one has got to do for cleansing the Companies Act passed in 2013,
04:29
which has such a lot of criminal elements, till today.
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