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00:00
Hello and welcome to the Scotsman's daily video bulletin for this Monday.
00:04
My name's Dale Miller, I'm Deputy Editor at the Scotsman.
00:07
Now I'm joined by our Westminster correspondent, Alexander Brown.
00:11
Alex, we're going to get into what is a big week for
00:14
the Chancellor and the UK government ahead, as it often is.
00:19
But firstly, front page of today's Scotsman.
00:23
We're led on universities and some polling that showed almost half of
00:27
Scots back in the end to free university tuition.
00:31
We know it's been a pillar, effectively, that's remained under the SNP government
00:37
that they have argued that they will continue to keep regardless,
00:42
leading through and past next year's Scottish Parliament elections.
00:47
But there is unprecedented pressures at the moment on universities across
00:50
the country.
00:51
We know Dundee University admitted last week, as Senior Chief,
00:56
that they're weeks from running out of cash altogether and that they needed
01:01
intervention to the tune of some 20, 22 million pounds last week from
01:05
the Scottish Funding Council to help prop the university up and
01:09
assist with its recovery plan.
01:11
Others like Edinburgh University have also acknowledged significant pressures
01:16
and the potential for looming staff cuts and voluntary redundancy.
01:22
This is going to continue to be a theme over coming months.
01:25
And talking of themes, Alex, well, we won't talk about the Scotland football
01:31
because that did not end well yesterday, but something else that hasn't gone
01:35
particularly well, you would argue, over the past five months is things
01:40
for the Chancellor on the economic front.
01:42
Now, we sat here for the October budget.
01:44
It was the first budget for a new government.
01:46
Rachel Reeves stood up.
01:48
She was quite commanding, spoke well, I think, of the statement.
01:52
Since then, both her record and capability in the role, as well as the UK
01:57
government, has come under attack.
01:58
Some of the economic figures in the meantime haven't always been great.
02:04
We know inflation did up again recently, and we come into this spring statement
02:09
with the government knowing that it's trying to bat off the threat of tariffs
02:13
coming out of the US, et cetera.
02:16
It feels like there's a lot happening.
02:18
How important is this statement for Rachel Reeves and her government?
02:23
It's a really big week and a really big statement for Rachel Reeves, who will hope
02:27
to avoid her own relegation, whereas the vultures circle.
02:31
She has had a really difficult time since coming into the job, and you could point
02:35
to the 22.5 billion pound black hole, which is what Labour ministers have done
02:40
repeatedly, and I actually think that was fine in her first statement when she was
02:43
explaining the state of the finances.
02:45
There was this real belief and support for, oh, actually, the Tories have left this
02:49
terrible financial legacy, and we have to put it together.
02:52
But that, combined with the optics of making cuts, has people maybe expected their
02:58
lives to be a little bit better by now, because they voted for change, not more
03:02
austerity, and that's maybe what we're looking at.
03:04
So it's really significant, because then she brought people along.
03:08
And if we are expecting big cuts, which we'll get into later, if we are expecting
03:13
those, bringing MPs along with her, bringing MPs along with the government to stop them
03:17
being vocal critics is going to be a big ask.
03:20
And we know the government has had its first battles in bringing people along.
03:24
It had that over Pip, which was originally going to get frozen in the reforms to
03:30
welfare. And that didn't happen because Labour MPs were incandescent and going in
03:34
and out of Downing Street constantly as Starmer and colleagues tried to convince
03:38
them. So for the Chancellor, who is no longer the most popular person in that
03:43
Cabinet room, this is really big.
03:46
I'm not saying that she's a risk.
03:47
I don't think there's any expectation that she'll be going anytime soon.
03:50
But MPs privately are beginning to have doubts about the whole concept of a growth
03:55
agenda. Alex, is it fair to say the messaging definitely seems to have changed from the
04:01
election? We had time for change slogan that has been watered down.
04:05
There's also a lot of talk at the October budget about the 22 billion black hole left by
04:10
the Tories. But I feel that the government have stopped talking about that more.
04:15
And to me, it doesn't feel if Rachel Reeves falls back on that again at this statement,
04:21
I get the sense it's not going to be received well.
04:24
I thought they had stopped talking about it.
04:26
They say all the time, I think we've just become accustomed to it and it maybe doesn't
04:29
cut it anymore. It's OK to know there's a financial disaster and things aren't that
04:33
great. But the public need to hear a little bit positivity.
04:36
They need to know that the government is acting in their interests.
04:38
And if they hear about cuts to public services, they hear about NHS England being
04:43
abolished, which in many ways is to refine the process and get more funding to the
04:50
actual services that are required.
04:51
But it's not being framed as that.
04:53
So the optics have consistently been a problem for this Labour government.
04:57
They have not made their messaging clear.
04:58
So at a time when they are trying to put the pieces back together, make an argument
05:03
that in a financial crisis, it takes a long term plan to put things together.
05:07
Right. We have a few difficult decisions, but long term, we'll reap the benefits.
05:12
There needs to be more of that from this government.
05:14
And actually, I think we saw the first example of that last week in the first
05:18
investments from GB Energy, which are expected to save at least for NHS England and
05:23
for schools, tens to hundreds of thousands of pounds in energy by directly investing in
05:29
solar panels, etc. for them.
05:31
Obviously, the Scottish government has its own say.
05:32
But those sorts of measures, we need a lot more of those, a lot more of those.
05:36
This is what we're doing. This is how it's going to save money for you and your family,
05:40
because without that, it's just cuts and no one is going to stand up and vote for that
05:44
again. Alex, so welfare cuts or welfare reform for the term that the government's
05:51
using, that has been trailed in the build up.
05:55
And we know that that will therefore have a knock on impact for the Scottish budget
06:00
because it may result in less money feeding through for consequentials.
06:04
But are we expecting more cuts than just that on Wednesday?
06:08
Yeah, I think we are expecting the biggest cuts to government departments since the
06:14
austerity era of George Osborne and David Cameron.
06:18
Departments have been told anything between 12 to 20 percent of cuts are required or
06:24
they want those presented to them.
06:26
There is one theory being posited by some in government, some MPs, that actually this
06:32
is just trying to make it seem like it's much worse than it will be.
06:35
So when the cuts aren't quite that severe, it seems like the government has been
06:38
restrained. But yeah, departments everywhere are expecting big cuts.
06:42
Defence will be fine. Health, we already know that they're abolishing loads of jobs.
06:46
I don't think a Labour government can cut NHS spending.
06:49
NHS spending is always going to increase, but they can say they're refining it to delay
06:54
how much more they need to spend.
06:55
And I think that's going to be the same for a lot of departments.
06:58
I think we probably won't hear it in the statement, but I imagine once we get the
07:02
documents, myself and many other journalists will get these huge, huge briefing notes of
07:07
details from the Treasury.
07:08
I imagine when we get into that, we'll be seeing a few measures that have been promised
07:11
before are maybe being delayed, are maybe being refined or simply cut completely.
07:17
There will be big cuts to many, many departments.
07:20
And Alex, just lastly, it's talked about that actually some members of the voting
07:26
public, when it comes to things like welfare cuts or reforms, actually welcome that, that
07:31
there is actually support for that.
07:33
Do you think the supports for cuts to the civil service as well, because it does mean
07:37
jobs going, but the argument about whether the civil service is too bloated and it needs
07:43
to be cut in the first place to save money, if the cuts are coming, does that appeal to
07:48
voters far more than hearing your taxes going up?
07:52
Yeah, it does. I mean, voters don't necessarily have a warm view of civil servants.
07:56
They think of them as these faceless, nameless government staffers who, especially during
08:03
parties such as Brexit, they were repeatedly briefed against and criticised because they
08:08
relied on facts rather than politics.
08:11
Yeah, it's really easy to go after civil servants.
08:13
And I think it's remarkable that Labour government is doing so.
08:16
I mean, we had the language from the prime minister last year where he talked about, I
08:19
think he might have even said swamp and talked about the bloat in the civil service, which
08:23
is language not so much from the Tory book, but straight from the Donald Trump playbook.
08:28
So it's really easy to go after them because they're not going after anyone specific.
08:32
They're not going after someone who the public have good connotations with.
08:35
You're just saying there's too many people hired in this role and we need to get rid of
08:40
some of them so that we can help improve your life rather than having too many hires.
08:44
We're going to see a lot of job losses.
08:45
So NHS England is going to make tens of thousands of cuts.
08:49
And obviously that then could extend to Scotland if Labour get into Holyrood, if they
08:52
reform the service there.
08:54
It's going to be the same in the civil service.
08:55
So it's all about saving money.
08:57
But I think we should remember that a lot of people are going to lose their jobs now.
09:01
A lot of people are going to lose their jobs and Labour thinks that's a price worth
09:06
paying. So, yeah, obviously they'll have the numbers.
09:08
It's politically expedient for them to do so.
09:10
And then in the weeks ahead, we'll have to learn how the Scottish government react to
09:14
this as well in terms of the pot of money that they're going to have to work with for
09:19
the next 12 months or so moving forward.
09:20
Alex, thank you very much for joining us.
09:22
I know you'll be covering every inch of the Spring Statement throughout this week.
09:26
It's on Wednesday for those tuning in who haven't checked the diary yet.
09:31
You can follow all our latest politics coverage at Scotsman.com.
09:35
Just look for the politics tab in the navigation bar and a full wrap of all your
09:40
Scottish news here and also news abroad in tomorrow's Scotsman.
09:44
Thanks, everyone, for joining us.
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