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00:00Now speaking of free agents that we have have been hoping the Patriots would pursue or that

00:05the Patriots may currently be pursuing, as we teased moments ago, Andy, our pal Karen Garigian,

00:11formerly of the Herald, now at MassLive, just published an article no more than 20 minutes ago

00:17with the headline, Patriots are definitely among Cooper Cup suitors.

00:22Comma.

00:23Among.

00:24But with a caveat.

00:25I don't like caveats.

00:26Here we go again.

00:27Here we go.

00:28Now, I got to tell you, Stan.

00:29The interest is, I'm going to tell you right now, I'm about to get out there in the streets of

00:34Chelsea slash Everett slash wherever it is you're calling home these days, and I am going to bang

00:39that trash can yelling, don't be cheap because here's what here's what you're getting.

00:44According to a source, the Patriots are currently interested in bringing in the veteran wide

00:49out aboard.

00:50However, Cups asking price at the moment is a bit too steep.

00:55Of course it is.

00:56It's certainly possible another team, and there are reportedly five in the mix,

00:59will meet the former Super Bowl MVP is contract demands.

01:02For now, the Patriots are content to see if Cup alters his stance.

01:06Full stop editorial note.

01:08See a cup.

01:09I bet you one of those other five teams went to the playoffs last year or maybe a top ten

01:14contender for the Super Bowl and didn't finish four and 13.

01:18It isn't in such dire, desperate need of a wide receiver.

01:21Holy smokes.

01:22Does somebody down there not realize how badly they need a grown up wide receiver one slash

01:28former wide receiver one to come and take targets and to come drag coverage away from

01:33these kids and also teach them how to play the position properly and be a thunder buddy

01:37to Drake may do not cheap out on this.

01:40Patriots spend the money overpay.

01:42You're not in a position to demand his salary needs.

01:45Pay the man his money.

01:46I'm losing my breath.

01:47It also says in there they already cheaped out that the reason they didn't pursue him

01:51via trade was that the contract was too big.

01:53The contract wasn't too big for a team with 130 million dollars in the on the cap at the

01:58time.

01:58Let me and I'm a fan of a Cooper Cup, but I'm going to do what you do is just push back

02:02because you have fun pushing back.

02:04Yeah.

02:04So they signed Carlton Davis, who's going into his eighth year in the league.

02:10They signed Morgan Moses, who's going into his 12th year in the league.

02:14They signed Matt Collins, who's going into his ninth year.

02:17Josh Dobbs going into his seventh year.

02:19Robert Spillane going into seventh year.

02:20Harold Landry going into his seventh year.

02:22Do you know the Patriots roster is the oldest roster in the NFL as of today?

02:26OK, the oldest roster.

02:27No, no ish.

02:28So my and there's going to there's a lot of people that would say, well, they overpaid

02:32for a lot of those guys, which who cares?

02:35I don't care.

02:35It's not my money.

02:36Also, I have a type that I could see them looking at this and going, our team's just

02:42getting older and older.

02:43I mean, you got Cooper Cup is going into his ninth year.

02:46He's played eight years and you have to severely overpay for, again, a guy who's aging out.

02:53This is the oldest roster in the NFL right now.

02:55My part of maybe what I think they're probably thinking is they got to get younger if they

03:00can't get younger.

03:02But I'm not saying you do it with this guy.

03:03But my feeling is they're a little bit nervous when they look down and they see the average

03:07age of their current roster.

03:09But isn't wide receiver one of their youngest spots with Jalen Polk, Javon Baker?

03:14I'm one of them.

03:15I'm trying to tell you what I think they're thinking.

03:17I think you keep saying the word, the adult in the room thing.

03:19It's you can be the adult in the wide receiver room where you said the is most needed.

03:24If there's one room, you want an adult and don't want them just screwing around and having

03:27fun.

03:28We learned last year.

03:29That's what I always say.

03:30Yes.

03:30Adult in the room has been the has been the predominant theory or rather the overriding

03:35theory the entire offseason.

03:36Now let's go to another update on Cooper Cup.

03:38Oh, no, he already signed with somebody else.

03:40No, because I would have had Stiz play the Price is Right losing horns if he had.

03:44Uh, this from your boy Giardi, who, by the way, sends his love and says you stink for

03:50picking the Celtics and losing last night.

03:52Sorry, I'm an optimist.

03:54Per Mike Giardi, the Patriots have, quote, reached out to Cooper Cup and believe he prefers

03:58to stay on the West Coast.

04:00The Patriots have not been ruled out just yet, so they're going to have to overpay.

04:05Yeah, so he's he just led us to they're going to be ruled out at some point.

04:09Oh, so help me God.

04:10And they're already making the excuse to the West Coast.

04:13It's already the excuse.

04:14They're laying.

04:15This is like, you know, it's like the girlfriend go to the playoffs in Seattle and Ridley's

04:19girlfriend didn't want to come here.

04:21Then there was this.

04:22It's taxes.

04:23It's the West Coast.

04:24There's always an excuse.

04:25There's the excuse.

04:26Karen just I believe Karen.

04:28Karen is the best ever.

04:29And one thing I like about Mike Vrabel is he's decided Karen gets the first press conference

04:33question.

04:33He even started today before Stacey James was ready.

04:36He's like, Karen, go ahead.

04:37He went.

04:38I love that about Mike Vrabel and his respect for Karen, but she said it.

04:41They're not willing to meet the price.

04:43She didn't mention West Coast, did she at all in her story?

04:46They're already giving us Stizz's interest King excuse.

04:51Oh, he wanted to stay on the West Coast.

04:53It just so happens they paid more than you on the West Coast.

04:56Thank God they didn't give up that seventh round pick to avoid all.

04:59Right, right, right.

05:00Thank God.

05:01They still have that piece to get that massive to get that two of them to seven.

05:06Well, you might even be able to create one Cooper Cup out of those picks.

05:09My God.

05:09No, he had that massive $19 million contract.

05:12$19 million for a wide receiver is nothing in the NFL.

05:16Are we really spending money?

05:17I don't know.

05:18No, we're not.

05:19Joe, we just got the answer right there.

05:20And that is so funny because yesterday I played that same drop and you're like,

05:23we are we are spending money.

05:25Well, we are spending money.

05:26We're just not spending it where we want them to spend the money right now.

05:29And that's with Cooper Cup.

05:30Let's go back to the phone line.

05:31617-779-7937.

05:34Tim in Hanover.

05:35I think he has a comment on this Cooper Cup situation.

05:40100%.

05:41Let me tell you right now, Mike Brable, if you're listening, Mike, you need to get this guy.

05:47He is the key piece for this team going forward because he's going to be a great slot guy

05:53to middle receiver.

05:54You can get a great receiver coming out one of the top five in the draft pick

05:59at number four, and they can go deep for you.

06:02They're young.

06:02They got the speed being Henry or whoever.

06:05I mean, Travis Hunter or whoever it might be.

06:08Take this kid and then work for your alignment and everybody else after that.

06:12Otherwise, you're totally foolish.

06:15Thanks for the call, Tim.

06:16I'm curious what the term is.

06:17I'm curious how many years he wants.

06:18Is that a sticking point?

06:19You know, maybe not just the salary per season, but just, you know, does he want a long deal?

06:25And the Patriots are willing to give him a one year deal or, you know, a two year deal

06:31or one year deal with an option for a second year, that kind of thing.

06:34How long did Tim Brown play for?

06:36He played probably 12 to his middle thirties, right?

06:40So Cooper Cup's 32 years old.

06:41Yes, I understand that's old.

06:42Yes, he would be the oldest receiver.

06:44Yes, the team is older, Ted.

06:46But again, you're trying to create this new culture of leadership.

06:49There's not been a single bad word ever muttered, uttered, printed, blogged about Cooper Cup.

06:54Like he is exactly what you need in terms of prep on field practice Sundays, Mondays,

07:00Thursdays, as Morgan Moses clearly outlined for us.

07:03Can I put it to you this way?

07:04Because we talked about Chris Godwin, you know, Chris Godwin didn't want to come up

07:08here and the Patriots were willing to pay him.

07:10I've heard reports anywhere from four to $10 million more a year than what Tampa Bay was

07:16offering, but he didn't want to come here.

07:19Cooper Cup's from Washington.

07:20He's played his whole career with the ramps.

07:23I mean, it's possible no matter how much money you throw at the guy, he doesn't want to come

07:28here.

07:28Well, so my first, what I want to argue on that is he has to move because the team

07:33cut him that he's on.

07:33So he's going to move somewhere, but then he doesn't actually have to move because you

07:37know who else needs a wide receiver?

07:38Oh, the team that shares a stadium with the Rams.

07:42Oh, the Chargers.

07:42They just re-signed Mike Williams this morning.

07:44Yeah.

07:44I'm just, I'm just saying that's the one thing.

07:47I think he could probably just stay in LA and go to the Chargers.

07:49And then he's on the West coast.

07:50He doesn't have to move, but if he, I'm going to tell you, if I hear like, oh, he signed

07:55with the, uh, the Panthers, it's like, uh, that's not, that's not the West coast.

08:01And because I do think if they have options and they want to go places that it was for

08:07even less money, places that they like places, they feel like they can win places that were

08:11the quality of life is more in line with what they want.

08:14Didn't think about the Chargers.

08:15That makes too much sense.

08:16And he doesn't have to literally doesn't have to move.

08:18He could keep the same apartment or move down the way.

08:22And don't you think that he would be, you line him up?

08:25Yes.

08:25Oh my gosh.

08:26Him and McConkie, it's going to be my receiver dream.

08:29Move kids out here, new schools all the way across country.

08:32It's a pain in the balls, man.

08:33Just like Mike Hampton took all that money because he wanted to bring his kids to school

08:36in Colorado.

08:37So I'll give him the out.

08:38If he goes to the Chargers, I'll just say it was a, a legit veteran.

08:43Didn't want to move.

08:44But if he goes somewhere else, if he moves halfway across the country to the South, to

08:47the East, to the somewhere, I'm not buying any of that crap.

08:50And then I'm going to say the Patriots were cheap and should have just traded for him

08:52and made him get his ass.

08:53Especially if he goes to, if he goes to the bills on like, let's say it's two for 25,

08:57Josh Allen's fun though.

08:58He is.

09:00He didn't take that extra 5 million because he wanted to be able to sign other players.

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